Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 vs. Slim 7i - AMD Ryzen 5 4500U vs. Intel 11th Gen Tiger Lake i5 1135G7

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  • @Antonio-vx7bq
    @Antonio-vx7bq 3 года назад +138

    Here I can learn english with subtitles because you speak clearly, greetings

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +27

      Thanks a bunch! I aim to do so even though I'm not a native English speaker!

    • @hatimalotabi9508
      @hatimalotabi9508 3 года назад

      totally agree with you

  • @botirbrian6249
    @botirbrian6249 3 года назад +59

    I think its the best comparison video I’ve ever seen

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +5

      Thank you so much! :)

    • @deap5193
      @deap5193 3 года назад +2

      @@w2best I rarely comment here but he's right: It's an amazing detailed video answering the question everyone has. I was looking for the answer for literally hours till I found your video. Other videos and/or comparisons (if there are any) are compared to yours superficial and fluffy. You could do this for other brands such as Zenbook too.
      PS would have loved to know how the fan noises differ since the Intel version has only one fan I think which is also bigger. Also when the fans kick in and if fan noise and speed is constant or shaky. And if it's high-pitched. I know, it's a lot of stuff but fans and their noise is still the major issue on Windows notebooks compared to Macbooks, in particular the new M1 ones.

    • @Dream_Night
      @Dream_Night 3 года назад

      @@w2best 1 question i5-1135G7 or ryzen 4500u for GTA V?¿

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +2

      @@Dream_Night i5 with egpu! No doubt that's the best. But i find the gaming performance slightly better in the 4500u in actual gameplay. But then there's no egpu...

    • @Dream_Night
      @Dream_Night 3 года назад

      @@w2best thanks

  • @PozdrawiamMame
    @PozdrawiamMame 3 года назад +31

    Thanks, mate! I have bought Yoga Slim 7 AMD 4500U based on your recommendation and I love this computer. I use it for a couple of hours a day (mainly just for RUclips and Netflix, sometimes external monitor) and I load the battery 2-3 times a week only. Today I have been using it for 10 hours for listening to podcasts and I still have 42%! Outstanding! Thank you!!!

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +6

      Yes the battery life is truly an outstanding feature of the laptop in that spec. It's the one thing I'm not as happy with in the intel model...

    • @pulpo439
      @pulpo439 3 года назад

      Prefiero el intel

    • @ShOookYx
      @ShOookYx 3 года назад

      @@w2best is that sure I can't upgrade the ram ?

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      @@ShOookYx Yes, no ram upgrades available.

    • @ShOookYx
      @ShOookYx 3 года назад

      @@w2best thats really sham

  • @williamstevenson2649
    @williamstevenson2649 3 года назад +8

    Great stuff! Getting closer now to what I will actually buy when it's released in the UK. Holding out for 16 GB

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      Thank you! Still unbelievable that the uk hasn't got a 16gb version yet. :(

    • @williamstevenson2649
      @williamstevenson2649 3 года назад

      @@w2best PS Don't be put off by others! Keep on with videos on this laptop series

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      @@williamstevenson2649 There will still be content on it for sure. I think every other laptop I review must have a VS Yoga Slim 7 video until I find a better one :P

    • @Xoxdb
      @Xoxdb 3 года назад

      Asus zenbook um425 ryzen 5 vs lenovo yoga slim 7 ryzen 5

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      @@Xoxdb i reviewed both! Def yoga!

  • @josephclarke6770
    @josephclarke6770 3 года назад +11

    Excellent review. Thanks man. I love how much AMD has come along in recent years; Intel needed some stiff competition.

  • @sdaks001
    @sdaks001 3 года назад +8

    A very underrated channel
    All the best sir! 👍🏻

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      Thank you! It's moving in the right direction day by day. :)

    • @sdaks001
      @sdaks001 3 года назад

      @@w2best 🙏🏻

  • @Rahan-31
    @Rahan-31 3 года назад +7

    Really very nice job 👏 👍
    I really hope to see a VS like this one in my French country... But I'm dreaming !

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      You gotta get some youtuber to be obsessed with this laptop model for 6 months first. :P

  • @sherwinjaypactol
    @sherwinjaypactol 3 года назад +5

    Just bought the AMD Version 4800U with 16gb of ram and with anti glare as the screen. Loving it. 🥰

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      That spec is such an amazing one! I'm sure you will keep loving it! :)

    • @battlegalaxypro5466
      @battlegalaxypro5466 3 года назад +1

      Less goooo nice

    • @amaeywagle1773
      @amaeywagle1773 3 года назад +1

      I'm thinking of getting the Lenovo slim 7 with AMD 4800u. I honestly love that laptop. The only issue is that it is only available with 8GB RAM and not 16GB. I know for most things, it won't matter. What do you think?

    • @battlegalaxypro5466
      @battlegalaxypro5466 3 года назад +1

      @@amaeywagle1773 just get that laptop with 16gb ram
      That's the best
      Because now 16gb ram is common and it's going to become very common
      In future

    • @amaeywagle1773
      @amaeywagle1773 3 года назад

      @@battlegalaxypro5466 I agree. But as I said, 16GB is not available here. It's only available with 8GB. That's the problem.

  • @galangaidil9421
    @galangaidil9421 3 года назад +17

    Thanks man. That's is really good video. I will pick the AMD version if it available.
    But bro, i just wanna gift u an advice. If you wanna share about number, you have to create table for it, so we are as the viewer can see it clearly.
    Thanks man

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +14

      I totally agree, and will really move in that direction. Sometimes i can't be bothered to put the extra time on that because I already spent 15 hours making the video on top of working full time... But i think during 2021 there will be a lot of upgrades from my side :)

    • @galangaidil9421
      @galangaidil9421 3 года назад +3

      @@w2best Keep your spirits up dude👍👍👍👍. I hope ur channel grow up

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +4

      @@galangaidil9421 Thanks! It has a very steady growth at the moment which is really fun :)

    • @michaeltsang548
      @michaeltsang548 3 года назад

      I got Intel 😔

  • @CesarPeron
    @CesarPeron 3 года назад +6

    Who would say that we would see the day that Intel cared about improving its technology, its GPU and its prices ... thanks Ryzen

  • @i.setyawan
    @i.setyawan 3 года назад +7

    Nice, I've been waiting for this comparison. I have the AMD version, and so far I have been very satisfied with it. I don't do much video editing and don't need advanced features (perhaps only very simple iMovie-level editing tasks occasionally), so Davinci resolve's incompatibility doesn't really matter to me. I believe both laptops are good buys.

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      I agree 100%. It's a relatively nische problem for me personally. But still worth sharing. Some say it's similar with Premier but this I haven't tested.

    • @Stevenx01
      @Stevenx01 3 года назад

      @@w2best I've seen your previous review with another 4500u and it did work well. What's the issue with the Ryzen now?

  • @khamidulloxabduraficov6859
    @khamidulloxabduraficov6859 3 года назад +19

    thank you great job! Actually i am really happy that i5 has almost the same result. My question what is better i5 iris xe gpu or mx 250?

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +4

      Check this video i did for a comparison! ruclips.net/video/dpcxUaQQSZw/видео.html glad you like the video! :)

  • @Linxyc
    @Linxyc 3 года назад

    I dont understand english at all but somehow i understand everything you said because you explained it like a pure profesional, thanks for exist

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      Oh that's super valuable to hear! Thanks! :)

  • @michals1985
    @michals1985 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for the detailed review! I just want to buy this computer and I will decide on the versions with the Intel i7 processor.
    I watched a lot of computers, the Yoga Slim made the best impression on me, it is nicely made, efficient and does not cost too much.
    Best regards and good health!

    • @spicyshizz2850
      @spicyshizz2850 2 года назад +2

      Ay just letting you know, Costco has this laptop on sale for 900$

  • @victormarian7889
    @victormarian7889 3 года назад +4

    I do think you could be the King of top 3 tech reviewers, at least on laptop issues !

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +2

      Wow :D Thank you so much! I'm doing my best to produce content regularly and improve! I don't think I'm really at that stage yet - but it's a work in progress both the skills and the growth! :)

    • @kallurisubrahmanyam4350
      @kallurisubrahmanyam4350 3 года назад

      Clarity and Pace are GREAT

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      @@kallurisubrahmanyam4350 Thank you very much! I appreciate the feedback! :)

  • @beachshak1539
    @beachshak1539 3 года назад +5

    Great Review Regardless, even more impressive you can do it so well in a second language!

  • @sbn025
    @sbn025 3 года назад +2

    very good comparison video! Thanks mate!

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      Glad you liked it! :)

  • @jalaledl
    @jalaledl 3 года назад +5

    Nice Reviews. Did you try Linux in with those laptops ?

  • @supernova1976
    @supernova1976 3 года назад +1

    Surprising results . I started having an issue where my track pad stops working after few min of use . Put the laptop to sleep and wake and everything working ok again . I have the AMD version .

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      I'm also a bit suprised they are almost head to head in many aspects. Oh. I haven't experience any trackpad issues. That sounds like some annoying power saving thing... I have the same with bluetooth units sometimes. So far I don't have a fix for it though!

    • @i.setyawan
      @i.setyawan 3 года назад

      @@w2best I updated my answer/comment on your 7i video a couple of days ago regarding this. Did you try it?

  • @HungchinChen
    @HungchinChen 3 года назад

    thanks for your great comparison video, bro

  • @mariamisailatgs
    @mariamisailatgs 3 года назад +1

    I used to be a sales for an IT company, not Lenovo but one of their competitors. We were paid by both AMD and Intel to talk about them and sell the products but somehow everytime we were getting customers to buy the AMD version, the stock was suddenly low and guess what, the Intel stock was ready to go... Believe me, Intel knooooooows how to get these companies to only want to create and sell their Intel version.

  • @stevansunarno4734
    @stevansunarno4734 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for making this video

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      I'm glad you like it. It's the culmination of 6+ months testing...

  • @Brunolauri
    @Brunolauri 3 года назад

    Great video man! Will be picking up the AMD version :)

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      Good choice!

  • @pratssd5
    @pratssd5 3 года назад +2

    Hello! Thanks for uploading this - I was looking for an unbiased video of the Yoga Slim 7 and found your channel :) The videos are very informative!
    I'll mostly do office work (browsing, emails, MS Excel) with some light non-competitive gaming (I miss GTA, Counter Strike), and I don't travel much. Unfortunately, they don't have the 16GB Yoga Slim 7 AMD 4800U version in India yet (Only the 8 GB one is available), so I'll likely go with the Yoga Slim 7i - i5 16GB 1135G7. Would love to hear your feedback, thanks!

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +2

      Do you have huawei laptops in india? I think the matebook 14 offers amazing value for money with the 4600h. But the Slim 7i is great as well. It's just when you start using more than a full hd display it's hard to go back...

    • @pratssd5
      @pratssd5 3 года назад

      ​@@w2best Unfortunately no Huawei laptops in India! Let me evaluate - I might ask a friend to get it here. Thanks! :)

  • @pouyamahmoudi
    @pouyamahmoudi 3 года назад

    Thank you for the chapters.

  • @Albenny24
    @Albenny24 3 года назад +3

    Hello, thank you for your great videos! Have you ever tested the device with I7? What are the differences? Would you opt for the $90 surcharge for the i7 instead of i5?

    • @geekysindhi129
      @geekysindhi129 3 года назад

      Namaste! If the ram is 8gb and soldered, better to go for i5

    • @IPLCricket-xd7kc
      @IPLCricket-xd7kc 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/x6jh0PEHSpg/видео.html

  • @cornelia0
    @cornelia0 2 года назад +1

    Can you please help me decide?
    Which one is better, battery wise and performance wise?
    Yoga Slim7 with intel i5 1135G7, 8GB ram, iris xe
    OR
    Ideapad pro with amd ryzen 5 5600u, 16GB ram, amd radeon

  • @JoelBergmark
    @JoelBergmark 2 года назад +2

    Just got Yoga 7 pro oled and compared to Xps 13 and some strange things Is going on, the xps seems to be more accurate and shows better images overall while the Oled Lenovo has serious issues with a lot of scenarios, better display for sure but mist in 2.5k video is off by a lot, shadows and very bright areas is way over and loses a lot of detail, I have now idea why this is the case and enabling HDR makes it even worse

  • @sabarpurnomo3481
    @sabarpurnomo3481 3 года назад +4

    I have amd version, i hope amd can collaborate with nvidia graphic for the best performance cpu and gpu

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      Yes that would be dreamy! Something like the Asus G14! I think the Ideapad 5 Pro will have that setup! :D

  • @jkmarchives
    @jkmarchives 3 года назад +2

    I love this video! However, I still couldn't decide. What if I need to use both video editing and other engineering software like AUTOCAD, etc.? What would be the better choice? Thank you!
    BTW, I use Filmora and Premiere Pro for editing. Hope I could get some opinion on this!

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      I would look at the 4700u or 4800u in that case! Best CPU power available and works fine for premier! If you don't need thunderbolt it's def the way to go!

    • @jkmarchives
      @jkmarchives 3 года назад

      @@w2best yay thank you so much for the quick response! 😊

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      @@jkmarchives NP! Good luck on the journey to 1000 subs now! :)

    • @jkmarchives
      @jkmarchives 3 года назад +1

      @@w2best omg thank you so much! 🙏🏻
      but then I have another problem, seems like the only available ryzen variant in our country is 4500U with 8gb soldered ram so I don’t think I can go with that. My budget can only go up until the yoga slim 7i with 10th gen & 16gb ram. Will that be enough for me? 😅 I don’t think I can wait for newer laptops bc I really need one right now. >

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      @@jkmarchives I think you can go for 4500u 8gb. It's a pretty good spec still, but for raw CPU power ryzen 7 is much better.
      10th gen Intel is not nice. You get really bad GPU power in that config. 11th gen should be pretty much the same price (at least here in the nordics). That config is better in every way!

  • @jean-alexandre5594
    @jean-alexandre5594 3 года назад

    Is the intel 11 still worth buying? I prefer the 7i because aof the 2 in 1 option, but im still kinda hesitating. Are there any other 2in1 laptops in the same price range? Thank you so much, this was really one of the most detailled reviews I have seen here, keep it up!🔥

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +2

      Still? it's a brand new cpu line :P I think 7i has too few ports. I would go thinkbook 14s yoga for a 2 in one with good spec and ports. Just make sure to pick the 11th gen.

  • @am6tool
    @am6tool 3 года назад +1

    Great video! I'm trying to decide between buying the Slim 7 with AMD Ryzen 7 4700U 2Ghz and the Slim 7 with Intel i5 1135G7 2.4Ghz. Both 16GB RAM, all other specs exactly the same. I can't seem to find more details on the 512GB SSD to see if one is faster or if they are the same. So it comes down the processors. The specs say 'no dedicated graphics card' for the AMD, 'dedicated graphics card Iris Xe' for the Intel.
    The use of the laptop will be: no gaming, everyday personal work (browsing and a lot of HD streaming), a bit of Adobe Lightroom or similar software (not for prof use, just my personal photos), use of audio and music software, work related tasks (running software installed locally and web applications, data analysis and visualization, lots of video calls so sucks that the camera is pretty bad). Price almost exactly the same. Any thoughts or suggestions?
    My initial thoughts are that if Ryzen 5 4500U and i5 have comparable performance as per your video and Ryzen 7 4700U is better that the Ryzen 5 4500U, then by analogy Ryzen 7 4700U should be better than the i5, right? I just don't know how much of a difference the Iris Xe will make here.
    Thanks!

  • @pushpalroy3158
    @pushpalroy3158 3 года назад +1

    Thankyou Jonas for such insightful videos.
    Can you please help me in making a choice between the below laptops.
    Lenovo Yoga Slim 7i with i5-1135G7 Processor and 16GB RAM DDR4 3200MHz
    Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 AMD Ryzen 7 4800U Processor and 8GB RAM LPDDR4x 4266MHz
    Which of the above laptops would be future proof for at least next 5 years. Price of both the laptop is around 890 Euro. None have any dedicated GPU.
    I would use the laptop for online class, Office work, Browsing and watching videos, some video editing with AVS Video Editor and to play strategy games once in a while. The games which I would play would be like Total WAR games Civilization or GTA.
    If you have any other recommendation, then also please let me know.

    • @aaryan61
      @aaryan61 3 года назад +1

      Intel version is also having fingerprint which AMD version is missing. I will suggest any of this configuration will serve you for next 4-5 years without any issues, so search out for better deal :-)

  • @Ray_1998_
    @Ray_1998_ 3 года назад

    Great video! If I was to choose between 4700U or i7-1165G7, which do you think would be most appropriate for gaming?

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      Does the i7 come with a dedicated gpu? In that case it's for sure best. But intel Xe is very powerful so I would condsider this a draw.

  • @geekysindhi129
    @geekysindhi129 3 года назад +3

    Amd has done brilliantly but it is so difficult to find them in stock, i need one urgently and hence going for i5 11thgen

  • @jobar4170
    @jobar4170 3 года назад +5

    Thumb up but I think you're addicted to this machine serie at this point...

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      Hahaha. You are probably right. I will look elsewhere in the very near future.

    • @jobar4170
      @jobar4170 3 года назад +1

      @@w2best I shouldn't be talking cause I watched all your videos about it. Enabler is the word for it believe...
      To conclude the saga you should make a video about the Yoga slim 7 Pro. It's the "One to rule them all" of the serie.

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      @@jobar4170 Whenever I can get a yoga pro I'll def. make something about it! :) Maybe even before since it seems impossible to get...

  • @DeepteshLovesTECH
    @DeepteshLovesTECH 3 года назад

    Ryzen 5000u series brought SMT support, so the 5500u now has 6 cores and 12 threads. More interesting is the Ryzen 7 5800U and Ryzen 5 5600U which are Zen 3 based.

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      Yes, and since the availability on the 4000 series has been so bad I REALLY hope it's better in the 5000 series. If not I'm starting to loose hope in AMD.

  • @BasicTechtalks
    @BasicTechtalks 3 года назад

    Wow really osm analysis

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      Thanks! :)

  • @michaelr1664
    @michaelr1664 3 года назад +2

    Thumbs up who thinks intel is paying manufacturers for this differences?

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      Paying for what? You mean for getting worse ram in their version? :P

  • @tadaaa8421
    @tadaaa8421 3 года назад

    Hello, i really appreciate the content you make , I hope you get more subs! What laptop do you advice for me. I want to use for daily use and video editing, watching movies and sims 4. Is the yoga slim 7 ryzen7 4800U 1tb ssd or yoga slim 7i 512 GB 16gb better?thx

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      4800u is a much stronger machine that is more future proof! Is that also 16gb? Is the slim 7i i5 or i7? What's the price?

    • @tadaaa8421
      @tadaaa8421 3 года назад +1

      Thx for the quick response. It's About Lenovo yoga slim 7 (intel7) 16GB ram, 1000gb with dedicated video card 2gb.(nvidia geforce mx350)price: €1200,-
      And Lenovo Yoga slim 7 AMD ryzen 7 4800u, 16gb ram and 1000gb ssd. The video card is amd radeon graphics and shared. The price:€1100,-
      Do you think 1 of these is worth buying for RUclips video editing, sims 4 etc or could you suggest another laptop?

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      @@tadaaa8421 If it's the i7 10th gen i would go AMD. If it's the 11th gen i would go Intel. However if you need thunderbolt i would go Intel any way.

  • @BarbarraBay
    @BarbarraBay 3 года назад

    super video. thanks

  • @rishikkeshsuresh3692
    @rishikkeshsuresh3692 3 года назад

    Great work sir.

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      Thanks a bunch!

  • @karthij2709
    @karthij2709 3 года назад

    I got Lenovo ThinkPad E14 Ryzen 5 4500U.
    6c/6t processor. Just ran cinebench r23 .
    Didn't ran any games.
    Very happy to have ryzen 5 series.❤️

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      It's an excellent cpu in a very good machine i believe! Hope to test out soon!

    • @karthij2709
      @karthij2709 3 года назад

      @@w2best ❤️

    • @kevinhadinata6406
      @kevinhadinata6406 3 года назад +1

      i want it to it has upgradeable ram but it isnt sold in my region :(

    • @karthij2709
      @karthij2709 3 года назад

      @@kevinhadinata6406 Lenovo ThinkPad E14 gen2?

    • @kevinhadinata6406
      @kevinhadinata6406 3 года назад +1

      @@karthij2709 yes amd version has 1 slot sodim ram up to 24 gb total

  • @solounaopinion
    @solounaopinion 3 года назад +1

    Thank you very much for your video, have you noticed that the white screen looks half sepia or yellowish? When it is configured without night light, by default, I need help on that subject, thank you

  • @vigallr
    @vigallr 2 года назад

    Yoga Slim 7 14ARE05 is this computer the same as the one you reviewed? The specs seem to be same model but wasn't sure it seems its a ryzen 5/7 could this just be a newer model since this video is 1yr old? any help would be great thanks love the detailed videos!!!

  • @ricosun
    @ricosun 3 года назад +13

    Please Lenovo。。。 make memory upgrable. with all those cores, we need more memory

  • @musiquerelaxationnature2337
    @musiquerelaxationnature2337 3 года назад +1

    Hey géniale video j'aime énormément Mille mercis

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      Merci beaucoup
      :)

  • @ijjileaf
    @ijjileaf 3 года назад

    Hi! Thank you for such an informative video. This has really opened my eyes that there are other options to Intel!!!
    I was wondering if you could help me decide based on my needs and what's available in the UK;
    The choice is either the Yoga Slim 7 in either intel 7 8gb or Ryzen 7 4700u 8gb as we still don't have 16gb.
    I'm a teacher so will need for things like presentations, Microsoft office use and general browsing but I also occasionally audio edit in Audition and premier, but mostly I want to start practising digital artwork (just as a hobby for now; I understand I'd need to upgrade if I use it lots for this)
    Do you think the Ryzen 7 will be fine for this or it's safe to go with Intel to avoid possible compatibility issues?

    • @johnnybuoy9551
      @johnnybuoy9551 2 года назад

      Ryzen 7 Series are pretty fast processors, with OctaCores and 16 Threads. I just got a Ryzen 7 5700U, and I am really impressed. It is my first Ryzen CPU laptop. I doubt that I will return to Intel. Ryzen is definitely better

    • @IPLCricket-xd7kc
      @IPLCricket-xd7kc 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/x6jh0PEHSpg/видео.html

  • @Muzektech
    @Muzektech 3 года назад

    Vilka najsiga videos du gör!

  • @cataro7133
    @cataro7133 3 года назад

    I'm typing from my Yoga Slim 7 4500 U, less than a week with it. I'm still running on Windows 10 version 2004, do you recommend update to version 20H2? Thanks for your amazing reviews, helped me to decide.

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +3

      I've run all windows updates and no issues with anything - so go ahead I'd say! :)

  • @nikossiotas
    @nikossiotas 2 года назад

    Hello,
    between
    Intel i7-1165G7/16GB/1TB SSD and
    AMD R5-4600U/16GB/1TB SSD
    which one would you pick?
    The laptop in both cases is Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 and the price difference is only 10 € so let's say it's the same price.
    Uses are office work, browsing with many tabs, lightweight gaming like LoL

  • @TheSrijith2
    @TheSrijith2 3 года назад +1

    Hi there, thanks for posting this video. It was very useful. I recently checked with dell inspiron 14 and hp envy x36 13. Both are having matching prices with dell having latest core i5 11 gen and hp having and ryzen 5.The rest of the spec are evenly matching. I am thinking about buying dell but having said that I don’t wanna miss rayzen 5 performance. I work for construction field and I do work on softwares like BIM, Office file and I am using split monitors as well to increase my productivity. Can you please suggest me with which one should I go with

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      I haven't tried either of the laptops so it's very hard to give av accurate recommendation, but the Dell Inspiron 14 is available also with Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7. If you do that work, Ryzen 7 should be a good option?!

    • @TheSrijith2
      @TheSrijith2 3 года назад

      W2Best Tech it’s hard to find a dell with AMD in Middle East. Anyways I’ll try to figure it out

  • @sajayakumarrnair2789
    @sajayakumarrnair2789 3 года назад

    Great review.
    Here 4800U + 8GB is only available.
    Will it be sufficient for me to run Autocad, Photoshop & Coreldraw?

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      I would say yes! The 4800u is very efficient. So if you don't run HUGE projects it should be ok with 8gb.

    • @zydiz
      @zydiz 3 года назад

      hope that 8 gigs are 4 and 4 in dual channel mode since single channel ram is a huge bottleneck for ryzen processors

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      @@zydiz it's dual channel!

  • @cement006
    @cement006 3 года назад

    I think two parts of this video will be nice. but this is also okay, but you are superb

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      You mean you want EVEN MORE of it? :P

    • @cement006
      @cement006 3 года назад

      @@w2best no-no cut the video to two parts.

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +2

      @@cement006my experience is whenever a video like this is cut in two only one part gets found. I will stick to making long in depth but well time stamped videos.

    • @cement006
      @cement006 3 года назад

      @@w2best 👍😁

  • @vickyedoc2782
    @vickyedoc2782 3 года назад +1

    Hey can u suggest.. I am from India.
    Lenevo yoga slim ryzen 7 4800u (8gb ram)
    OR
    Lenovo yoga slim 7 i5 11th (16gb ram)

  • @sylvainpatron5100
    @sylvainpatron5100 3 года назад +3

    I bought the intel version because of the thunderbolt. I will use an egpu for gaming.

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +2

      Which eGPU will you be running? :)

    • @sylvainpatron5100
      @sylvainpatron5100 3 года назад +1

      @@w2best I will use a Razer Core X with rtx 2060 or 1060. I have not tested it yet. I'm waiting for my brand new Yoga !

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +2

      @@sylvainpatron5100 Cool! I wanna get one of those as well. Really keen to start making some eGPU content :P

    • @sylvainpatron5100
      @sylvainpatron5100 3 года назад +1

      @@w2best So i will subscribe to your channel, i don't want to miss that !

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +2

      @@sylvainpatron5100 The pressure is on! :D It's not the first on my buy-list / back log but it's pretty high up there! :)

  • @iihamed711
    @iihamed711 3 года назад +1

    a really good comparison video, but it would be better if you could test more games

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      I do that in the gaming video for each laptop. Check the playlists on the description.

  • @erikhansen3159
    @erikhansen3159 3 года назад

    Tack så hemskt mycket, riktigt bra jämförelse mellan datorerna! Funderar på att köpa en AMD version men är osäker på vilken. Det finns en med ryzen 5 4500u, 16gb ram, 512gb för 9000 kr. Sen en med ryzen 7 4700u, 16 gb ram 512 gb för 10000 kr. Ska använda datorn i skolan och kommer hålla på med lite programmering, dokument och eventuellt lite redigering. Skulle du säga att det är stor skillnad och värt att spendera 1000 kr mer på processorn?

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      Jag skulle säga att det är värt 1000kr extra. Jag har haft båda och både CPU och GPU är betydligt vassare i 4700u. Sen sätter du i en extra ssd också!

    • @erikhansen3159
      @erikhansen3159 3 года назад

      @@w2best Tack för tipset! Har även funderat på en lenovo ideapad 5 14" med ryzen 4700u, 16 gb ram, 512 gb ssd. Den kostar 8000 kr. Är därför osäker på om jag ska välja den eller slim 7 med samma specs fast för 10000 kr. Batteriet och skärmen verkar vara det störta som skiljer sig. Skulle du säga att det är värt 2000 kr extra för slim 7? Tänker använda datorn till skolarbete såsom programmering och eventuellt lite redigering.

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      @@erikhansen3159 100% värt de extra pengarna. Både skärmen och batteriet är så otroligt mycket bättre på slim 7.

    • @erikhansen3159
      @erikhansen3159 3 года назад

      @@w2best Okej, tack för hjälpen med mitt val!

  • @pradeepd4683
    @pradeepd4683 3 года назад

    Hi dude really a great video, need 1 help, I am confused between yoga slim 7 (ryzen 7 4800u but 8 GB DDR4X RAM) and yoga slim 7i ( i5 11th gen, but 16gb DDR4 RAM) which should I buy, is RAM more important than processor, I live in India and both versions cost same, btw AMD version lacks fingerprint sensor, please could you help me choose I am buying it on 15th may, 2021. I need faster and smooth performance. It would be really helpful and I would be grateful to you if you could reply quickly on this

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      4800u is MUCH more powerful than i5. So if you need raw power there is nothing beating the 4800u - not even with 16gb.

    • @pradeepd4683
      @pradeepd4683 3 года назад

      @@w2best thank you for quick reply, so only 8 GB RAM will not be a problem in the future

  • @k_5404
    @k_5404 3 года назад +1

    I actually lost it - all month effort searching I actually don’t know what buy. Should I just buy slim i7 11gen?

    • @pinkipromise
      @pinkipromise 3 года назад

      get intel if you want slower cpu and lower battery life

  • @nabilalhoussein7877
    @nabilalhoussein7877 3 года назад

    Nice video bro. Can you make a comparison between the ideapad 5 14 and the ideapad 5 15?

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      Unfortunately that's not gonna happen, but there are so many reviews of these you should be able to find your info!

  • @manush6270
    @manush6270 2 года назад

    Hello friends.. what proccesor you think its better for music home studio recording?

  • @Spliff128
    @Spliff128 3 года назад +1

    Two weeks ago i bought the Yoga Slim 7 with Ryzen 4800U CPU and while its an awesome and fast machine i've experienced big crackling sound issues with USB Audio Interfaces. So i have to return it and go with the i7 1165 Yoga.
    Tried everything, different ports, bought another interface, installing/unistalling audio drivers, updating BIOS, nothing worked for me. I cannot even record one track without crackles.... What a pity, on my old notebook with a measly i5 5200U its running without issues :((

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      That's very sad! I haven't had any audio issues but I also feel like I have a less professional use case. Anyhow - hope the i7 will work!

  • @HetIsIemandSanders
    @HetIsIemandSanders 3 года назад

    Just ordered the AMD version. Sadly the screen of the Ideapad 5 was too bad for me. The colors are way off compared to my phone and other laptops/screens. I hope the colors of the screen of the Yoga Slim will be much better!

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      I have a comparison video between the ideapad 5 and yoga slim 7 too. The colours are SO much better on Yoga slim 7, so you won't be dissapointed.

    • @HetIsIemandSanders
      @HetIsIemandSanders 3 года назад

      @@w2best thanks! Great in-depth reviews/series!

  • @reviewchan9806
    @reviewchan9806 3 года назад

    Thanks for doing the review. Its super weird how lenovo would opt for a different camera in either model. Or could it be that quality and processing is different at the processor level?

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      I'm not sure it's different but maybe the gpu makes it different? However the mic is a big big difference

    • @reviewchan9806
      @reviewchan9806 3 года назад

      @@w2best Does a hardware search say its a different microphone array?

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      @@reviewchan9806 That's something i haven't checked! I will do!

    • @jonathanferdinand1164
      @jonathanferdinand1164 3 года назад

      @@w2best whats the result?

  • @mikethespike056
    @mikethespike056 Год назад

    Recommendation for any laptop users. Do not keep your laptop at 100 celsius if you want it to last 4+ years.

  • @rizkikurniarachma781
    @rizkikurniarachma781 3 года назад +1

    (i5 11357 + iris xe graphics + 8Gb ram) OR (i5 10351 + intel UHD + 16GB ram).. Which one is better?

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      You REALLY Don't want the 10th gen intel with UHD. It's soo much worse than the 11th gen. 8 vs 16gb won't matter. Don't go down that route!

    • @TheFirebloom
      @TheFirebloom 3 года назад

      @@w2best How much worse is it? I'm just thinking in terms of budget. In my country, the 10th gen i5 10351 + mx350 gpu+ 16GB ram is a lot cheaper compared to i5 11357 + iris xe graphics + 8Gb ram. I dont have an option for AMD as they do not sell it. 10th gen costs $853 converting to usd, and 11th gen is $1271 coverting to usd.

  • @purabisaha1963
    @purabisaha1963 3 года назад +1

    The day my desktop's temp went up 83 degrees I just freaked out😂😂😅 Now I feel its normal

  • @isaak8820
    @isaak8820 3 года назад

    sorry, i dont understand what you say, couse my english is very bad. Can you help me to choice? Whats better for premiere pro and after effects: core 1135g7, mx 350 or ryzen 5 4600h, gtx 1650? or core i5 9300h?

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      4600h + gtx1650 is much much more powerful than the other options you wrote.

    • @isaak8820
      @isaak8820 3 года назад

      @@w2best thanks bro

  • @asandrius86
    @asandrius86 2 года назад

    I noticed that intel is better performing and it is fits more for the no go travel. And it has less temp to heat up.

  • @jameselia9581
    @jameselia9581 3 года назад +3

    Hi W2Best = Please try looking for the Slim 7 Pro version. It might be available in your Country. With the 2k Res screen 16:10 aspect Ratio

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +2

      I'm looking everyday... Still nothing. But if it releases at an ok price i will be right there!

    • @jameselia9581
      @jameselia9581 3 года назад

      Mee too.. lol but lets be patient

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +2

      @@jameselia9581 My assumption is when it's in stock it will sell out in NO time. So I'm eager to be the one seeing them in stock first :P

    • @jameselia9581
      @jameselia9581 3 года назад

      Hahaha.. same here.. that is why I am really keeping an eye on it. Goodluck to us my friend

  • @fgood574
    @fgood574 2 года назад

    Can you give me advise, which one to choose between version with ryzen 7 4700u or ryzen 5 4500u? I think there is a small difference between them, i have watched video of comparison in games and found very small difference only on fps. But the store where i want to buy this laptop is showing that version with ryzen 7 is out of stock and currently only version with ryzen 5 comes to store every week. And i don’t know what to do, maybe ryzen 7 version will be available in 2022, or just to buy version with ryzen 5

    • @w2best
      @w2best  2 года назад

      What's the price difference? The gpu is better in 4700u but I think 4500u is enought for ALMOST everyone.

    • @fgood574
      @fgood574 2 года назад

      @@w2best the difference is approximately 300$

  • @WEBLAXA
    @WEBLAXA 2 года назад

    hi sir can you guide me please i want to choose between two laptops hp the first his configuration is: i5 1135g7 with nvidia geforce mx350
    the second laptop have : ryzen 7 4700u with gpu vega 7
    can you please propose what i should chose and thunks a lot

  • @lyncor6043
    @lyncor6043 3 года назад

    Help me to choose please.. I need a laptop for programming in college, which one should I choose? AMD Ryzen 7 4800u or i7-1065G7?

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      1165g7 you mean? Because the 10th gen is really not nice. Anyhow 4800u is the most powerful spec. If you can find it I would recommend it!

  • @shaxter
    @shaxter 3 года назад

    Awesome content

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      Thank you! :)

  • @Unknown-xe6ni
    @Unknown-xe6ni 3 года назад +1

    People Say Iris Xe Is Better Then Vega 7/6 And When I Search On Internet, It Is Showing Vega 9 Is Equal To MX350, Which In Turn Is Better Than Iris Xe, I Think, So Vega 7 Or Xe, Plus Say Me Consideration Over Vega 7 Or Vega 10 3000

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      The most important thing to max the graphics will be lpddr4x 4266mhz memory. The xe will be much better than in this video with faster ram. But i would say if you can get mx 450 you should for sure. It's always better with dedicated gpu memory imo. Vega 9 i haven't tried or looked into at all.

  • @hrginho
    @hrginho 3 года назад +1

    I have an i5 1135G7 laptop. It's a good laptop with an average battery. But when I try some light gaming, the battery drains like crazy. I've read it's because of the Intel chipset, not sure about that. My laptop is Acer Aspire 5.

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      Gaming will drain the battery on any machine. But these internal graphics can sometimes get you more than 90 minutes gaming which is amazing!

    • @hrginho
      @hrginho 3 года назад

      @@w2best Thanks for the answer. I actually do have a dedicated GPU, entry level MX350.
      P.S. I get probably 60 minutes playing LoL and 5 or 10 minutes less playing Assassin's Creed: Rogue.

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      @@hrginho with the dedicated gpu and the cpu together your laptop probably pulls 40w and you have a 50ish Wh battery. So it's not strange that the battery dies. You can try disabling the dgpu and see if it makes a difference.

  • @mariosilva8736
    @mariosilva8736 3 года назад

    Hello, I am from Santiago de Chile, I just bought the amd 4500u version with 16 gb ram for 1000 usd, the affordable version with i5 11 generation still does not arrive, the problem will be the stock and the price with which they will arrive, so I opted for amd, thanks for the video

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +2

      It's good the 4500u is in stock! Here it's really hard to get by it! Hope you are happy with the machine :)

  • @andrewblanco2657
    @andrewblanco2657 3 года назад

    I had problems with lenovo warranty, they failed to fix my pc so i got a dell with that same i5, hope it runs as expected!

    • @m.c4132
      @m.c4132 3 года назад

      how is dell doing now?

    • @andrewblanco2657
      @andrewblanco2657 3 года назад

      @@m.c4132 hey! My dell pc is running perfectly, the graphics performance is exceptional for an integrated gpu

    • @andrewblanco2657
      @andrewblanco2657 3 года назад

      The keyboard has a pretty good feeling to it, and the touchpad is wonderful, overall it feels really robust

  • @Netherdawg
    @Netherdawg 3 года назад

    Hi there, great video! I was wondering whether you have any information on usage of CAD programs? I'm a student and use these programs quite a bit. Would you say the AMD version, same as for video editing, is more suited for CAD works?

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      Yes Amd is better. It's much more raw cpu power in it :) if you don't have an egpu for 3d cad. Then you need to go Intel.

  • @IMWithJay
    @IMWithJay 3 года назад

    Would be nice to show the cinebench score. Makes it easier for viewers to get the info they are looking for. Listening to the score and comparing the numbers mentally is just.... Why?

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      I totally agree! I need to work a lot on the visuals in general. I just haven't had that much time for doing it, and still wanted to make this very requested video.

  • @AMLUH5G
    @AMLUH5G 3 года назад

    Very helpful comparison, thank you! :) However I struggle to make a decision. These days, I can get a Yoga Slim 7 with a Ryzen 4500u/16GB for 900 Euro while the Intel-version with i5 1135G7/16GB is on sale for 850 Euro. I would use the Laptop mainly for office applications, internet and some photo editing and want it to be an allrounder for the next years. I'd use it at home most of the time. I still have a very fast desktop Ryzen 5 3600X PC, where I run DaVinci Resolve and CPU/GPU heavy stuff. The 4500u version seems to be the better allrounder with regards to power, temperature and battery life while I also value the way better webcam (hello COVID-19) and SSD of the i5 version. Since it won't be my main computer I wonder if I can save the additional 50 Euro and go with an i5 for 850 Euro. WWJD aka What would Jonas do? :D

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +2

      At a cheaper price and still 16gb ram i would def go for the Intel version. For me the ups of the Intel are better than the ups of the AMD if your main concern isn't battery life. If that's the case it's def AMD!

    • @AMLUH5G
      @AMLUH5G 3 года назад +3

      @@w2best That's the extra push that I needed after some weeks of research. Not easy to reisist the AMD hype train but I'll go for the Intel version then, feels better for me, too. I'm beyond excited. Tack så mycket!

  • @viktortaradai
    @viktortaradai 3 года назад +1

    Which laptop is better to take?
    1.Lenovo Yoga Slim 7i 15IIL05 Intel Core i7-1065G7; 16 GB LPDDR4X 3200MHz; nVidia GeForce MX350; SSD 1024
    2.Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 14ARE05 AMD Ryzen 7 4700U; 16GB LPDDR4X 4266MHz; AMD Radeon Graphics; SSD 1024
    Unfortunately, we do not have 15 inches on AMD processor.

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      It's so depending on your needs for a 14 vs 15 inch laptop and if you need thunderbolt. I personally prefer 14 inch and 4700u is a great spec so i think I'd do that one.

  • @opsion.
    @opsion. 3 года назад +2

    Would you get a Zenbook 14 or Lenovo yoga slim 7?

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      I've tested both and from that experience I would go Yoga Slim 7 any day.

  • @zainabkazim564
    @zainabkazim564 Год назад

    Does your Lenovo 7 have a sticker that says Lenovo yoga 7i?

  • @maryrose678
    @maryrose678 3 года назад

    Hi. Help me choose which one should I buy. The only game I play is dota2. im thinking of buying the legion 5 or slim yoga amd. Will be using it mainly to watch netflix, for work.

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      I wouldn't get a legion if you only play a pretty lightweight game. Get the yoga slim 7 is my bet :) If you game a lot and need gaming horsepower get legion.

  • @nuraishahkahairi9648
    @nuraishahkahairi9648 3 года назад

    Is there any huge difference regarding the battery life of both laptop? How many hours that the intel left behind?

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      I'm talking about this a lot in the video right? Intel is behind for sure.

    • @nuraishahkahairi9648
      @nuraishahkahairi9648 3 года назад

      @@w2best Ok. For what you've said, the intel only left behind for about 1 hour based on your test. Not a huge difference.

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      @@nuraishahkahairi9648 Ah ok. My estimate is 10-12h on the AMD and rather around 8-9 on the Intel. After using them both 3+ months each.

    • @nuraishahkahairi9648
      @nuraishahkahairi9648 3 года назад

      @@w2bestThat's a great comparison. Unfortunately I can't find the AMD version in Malaysia other than from lenovo official website. I dont want to buy from their website since it took weeks to ship.

  • @ufkankurum1599
    @ufkankurum1599 3 года назад

    I will be buying the ryzen 7 5700 u version, do you think it will be better than these or should i go for intel

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      I think that will be amazing and Intel will have a hard time to beat that.

  • @edoardobologna4360
    @edoardobologna4360 3 года назад

    Hi W2Best. Great job with your video reviews! It helped me make my decision to buy the slim 7. I just ordered a Slim 7i 15" configured with intel i7 1165G7, xe integrated graphics, 16gb ram (I believe its the 3200 Hz one) and 1TB SSD-station, M.2 2280, PCIe-NVMe, TLC
    1. do you think there will be much difference with the 14" that you reviewed? If so, in what aspects (battery life)?
    2. I picked the 11th gen with the xe graphics because I thought it would be sufficient to run Dirt rally 2.0 (the only game I play). I'm stull not sure it will run it though. What are your thoughts on this? Would an AMD or an Nvidia mx350 have been better? I think the external graphics would consume more power for an equivalent GPU power as the xe. What are your thoughts?

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      1. No I think the differences will be very minor. You have the full size SD-card reader and the num pad available.
      2. I think that should be fine! Especially if you are not very strict about getting 60 fps... I'm quite pleased with the Xe graphics performance!

  • @StartreckTu
    @StartreckTu 3 года назад

    Remember people don't touch 8GB RAM Laptops... always opt for 16GB. Doesn't matter if it's intel or AMD .

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      AND 4266mhz to max performance of the cpu!

  • @ByronReyes
    @ByronReyes 3 года назад

    i have been using intel GPU and CPU's for so long for my daily task and it did not make me fail at all
    greetings from Philippines

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      Oh even before the 11th gen? I feel like it's with 11th gen i will actually be able to use Intel igpu...

    • @ByronReyes
      @ByronReyes 3 года назад

      Yes, i started using intel i3 in my first and then the pc that i'm using now is i5, also i have this new pc of lenovo yoga series that comes with intel evo and intel Iris Xe

  • @xmaverickhunterkx
    @xmaverickhunterkx 3 года назад

    Everyone needs to keep in mind this is AMDs last gen, not current.

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      Yes, it's not available with the current one from what i know.

  • @mikethespike056
    @mikethespike056 Год назад

    The speakers are NOT perfectly clear up to 100 volume. At around 70 you begin to notice a quality loss.
    Edit: and at 100 it sounds pretty awful

  • @km-qc3iv
    @km-qc3iv 3 года назад

    help Lenovo® IdeaPad 3 Laptop, 15.6" Screen, AMD Ryzen 7 4700U, 8GB Memory, 512GB Solid State Drive, Windows® 10,
    OR
    Gateway 15.6" Ultra Slim Notebook, FHD, Intel® Core™ i5-1135G7, Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics, 512GB SSD, 16GB RAM, Tuned by THX™, Fingerprint Scanner, 1.0MP Webcam, HDMI, Cortana, Windows 10
    both for $499. which is a better buy?

  • @techoman5986
    @techoman5986 3 года назад +1

    I will wait for 2021 models

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      That sounds like a pretty good plan!

  • @francofranco5600
    @francofranco5600 2 года назад

    The difference between the screen colors is because Intel gpu has different configuration of colors, and in this battle I will stay with Intel more versatile has thunderbolt port you connect an egpu if you wish.

    • @w2best
      @w2best  2 года назад

      Yes that's what I understood too. In this comparison the Intel is my clear winner.

  • @adamkencki
    @adamkencki 3 года назад +1

    I have the i7 with 16GB RAM, but would like to upgrade or add a second SSD to my 512 GBs

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      As i wrote on your other comment. I'm testing it this week. Stay tuned for the video!

  • @bertramfjordbak7787
    @bertramfjordbak7787 3 года назад

    In denmark right now you can get amd vision for 530 euros
    Is that a good Is that a good deal?

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      That's amazing and you can probably never get a better deal on a laptop this year :D

  • @netjens
    @netjens 3 года назад

    Now now, donet forget that the 4700U and 4800U works much better for video editors

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад +1

      Much better is a bit of a stretch, but a bit better in done cases. :)

  • @rajeshreddy3469
    @rajeshreddy3469 3 года назад

    1. Is it a touchscreen 2. 360degrees hinge or 120 degrees

    • @w2best
      @w2best  3 года назад

      Hey! It's fold down flat to the table. These guys are not touch screen. So it's not very yoga for being named yoga...