Guitarist REACTS to ALL TOO WELL the Movie Directed by Taylor Swift
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- Welp .... this is a big one. I actually did some RESEARCH on this one! I know it's about Jakey G and Taylor Swift's relationship from a few years back. Now, fair warning ... my reaction might not be the same as other people's. I was a little worried about uploading this one. We're dealing with some pretty intense feelings and relationships, so please remember that when issuing me an a@& kicking in the comments.
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0:00 - Opening
00:56 - Me Talking
02:24 - VERSE
04:39 - Initial Reaction
05:20 - The Technique
06:12 - The Lyrics
06:33 - VERSE
07:45 - The Argument
10:47 - Discussing The Argument Scene
12:27 - The Lyrics
13:05 - VERSE
14:01 - The Lyrics
15:18 - VERSE
17:07 - The Lyrics
19:24 - VERSE
20:51 - the Lyrics
22:17 - BRIDGE
23:58 - Overall Reaction
24:58 - The Lyrics
27:04 - Final Thoughts and Coming Up Stuff
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About the grabbing hands thing: the protagonist is clearly feeling out of place with her boyfriend's friends, so she reaches for his hand, because he's the only thing familiar to her there, and holding hands would make her feel lest insecure about her place there. When he drops her hand like that, in such a patronizing way it's implied to her that he also thinks she's too young and doesn't belong there. In short, she felt insecure and he didn't care.
exactly! she was seeking affirmation that she belonged and that he wanted her there because she felt so out of place
This was also slightly improv and Sadie was referencing champagne problems.
Exactly! I can see it as her seeking support from her partner and him not only not giving it, but gaslighting her.
precisely. she wasn’t trying to sit on his lap or slobber on his face, she just wanted to feel a little more connected to the moment because he was excluding her
Exactly-even if she was upset over something silly, she was upset, and he was not only dismissing her feelings, he was telling her she was crazy for having feelings and that her feelings ruined the night. Those are major narcissistic and manipulative behaviors.
In my opinion, if you’re 29 and your girlfriend is 20 and you bring her to meet your friends and you make zero effort to include her in any way, you’re a bad boyfriend.
Doesn’t matter what age she is, if she doesn’t know any of them, not making an effort to include her just is rude. Why bring her then?
I swear
@@sirsimonthesentry4787100% agreed. He obviously acted very differently towards her around his friends
Taylor is not mad at jake. She released this version for us because the fans have been literally begging for it. Taylor is happy now and has been in a healthy relation with joe.
I can't say this enough! This is a song that was written 9-10 years ago. Things have changed and she released this just for her fans. I agree that 10 years ago she was heartbroken and not over the relationship, but now? I hardly think that it even crosses her mind other than it being a distant memory from her past.
@@rgalvshpbks exactly! And of course she put herself in that mindset for a little bit to allow true emotion to come across in her rereleases, but at the end of the day she goes home to Joe as she has for 5 years so 🤷🏻♀️
When she wrote the song...
@@nealm6764 when she was 21. She is 32 now
@@parimundra1680 That is fine, but you analyze a song or movie by how it was written. What emotions come out etc. So to correct anyone who says that the writer was angry or hadn't gotten over the breakup, with "it was written 10 years ago" is really kind of ridiculous.
Taylor obviously was still working through her feeling about it all when she wrote the song.
I am close to being an old fart (I am her father's age) and have only recently begun to know and really appreciate the tremendous artistry, intellect, and character that is Taylor Swift (better late in my life than never I guess). Anyhow, what I really want to do is give a big thanks to all the women who have contributed articulate, thoughtful, and insightful comments in this thread. I enjoyed reading what you have said. You folks have really improved my understanding of who Taylor Swift is and what is she about.
I love this comment SO much! 🖤
This comment makes my heart happy.
She's not hung up over this anymore, it's us the fans that pestered her for 11 years now to release the longer version. She made the short film depicting a story because we were asking for a music video and she's enamored with directing. Her story, possibly? Even as a fan I don't care. I'm here for the art. Her personal life has been overblown by the media as you might have realized too lol
Her talking about his childhood is a very sweet thing, she's basically saying she loved learning about him and his past because she dreamt of a future together. That's all there is to it. I've been there, it's a bittersweet feeling when you realize you have to move on.
I really wish people would stop shitting on Jake. We're all people and we all make mistakes. No one deserves to be burned at the stake for a relationship, but there are a lot of hateful people on the internet.
I love your humour and content my man peace and love ✌️👌🙂
I think you in a weird way actually got the beauty of this song. She's mad, and sad, and hurt, and mournful, and nostalgic and a hundred other emotions in one song, and the only way she can express those feeling is to tell him that she remembers all of it all too well. I think that's why its so well written, because its not a song about one moment in time, its about many many small moments that make up a relationship that was so powerful but just didn't seem to work out.
The moment in the video that always makes me tear up a little is when she's reading the book and we get the shot of her fans. Because its a metaphor for the life of this song. Initially, Taylor loved the song but didn't think many other people would. Slowly over the years it became her highest praised and most loved song. At this point she's said the song isn't about Jake anymore, now its about her connection and love for her fans because the song means so much to us. The book signing is supposed to be Taylor taking her pain and writing All Too Well the song and her fans showing up for her and making it their own. She said that's why she gave us the 10 min version and the video, because the fans have been asking for it for years.
It was the guy's responsibility to make her feel comfortable while introducing her to his friends. He didn't talk to her at all, didn't even make an effort to include her in the conversation + he was also incredibly patronizing during the fight. Bringing your girlfriend along to catch up with people you haven't seen for 10 year (according to him) seems kinda stupid, anyway...
Also by that time she was already a Grammy winner and was filling up stadiums! She was well read and a great lyricist. It's not like she could not contribute in a meaningful way to conversation. Yet he made her feel inadequate and worthless.
@@00Kristyna00 That was to make himself feel better about himself. Guys who date much younger women are not looking for an intellectual equal. Told her she wasn't funny and tried to project that he and his friends were more cultured. All into his Indie music and against the commercial pop, which is what she was. He was taking away everything that she was, So essentially he liked how she looked and wanted her to look at him with awe. So when the girlfriend stops being the shiny jewel that reflects on him, he moves onto another young woman.
@@gailsch It's also important to take into consideration, that it's been like 10 years since they dated. Maybe he wasn't mentally in the best place at the time, maybe that's one of the reasons why he wasn't exactly the best person to be around (that's still no excuse, of course). I just think we (as in Taylor's fans) shouldn't be so quick with all the hate and judgment. Taylor didn't release the short film and 10 minute version to dig up a 10 years old conflict.
@@jedekral The song is all from a 21 year old Taylor's perspective who is interpreting his feelings and actions from the lens of a 20-21 year old woman. I was speaking from experience of being at super pretentious Brooklyn hipster douchefests that they call parties. They all don't have tvs and love to brag about that, but not having a tv has a very specific and limited definition and does not mean they don't watch tv. Since this all confused me, maybe it means they don't have cable or they watch it on a monitor the size of a tv or a laptop...
I forgot what I had written here which is why my rant against Brooklyn hipsters doesn't make so much sense. I thought this was where I wrote that the party was what she was talking about in I bet you think about me with the meaning of life from books she hadn't read. But my dislike of Brooklyn Hipsters influences my interpretation and not an investment in a relationship I wasn't in 10 years ago.
I agree when you say that the way people act in relationships when they are really young is different from when you’re older, but I don’t think the part where she talks about the mom stories are there to reduce him, but to indicate she became so close to his family that it was a serious relationship, not just an affair
Hi Andrew! You were looking at the lyrics of the short version of this song. Since 2012, we've known that there was a 10 minute version of it, that was just released in Red (Taylor's Version) and it's the one in the video: All Too Well (10 Minute Version) (Taylor's Version).
The "it was supposed to be fun turning 21" line is about the fact that Jake never showed up to her birthday party. There's a song called The Moment I Knew (listen to the Taylor's Version, of course) where talks specifically about this day. There are other songs on Red where she says that he never laughed at her jokes, only at her dreams. That's why the "I was never good at telling jokes" line right before "your lovers stay my age".
Yup, I realized it before the end, but yeah it was confusing. Keep in mind .... I'm an idiot.
@@AndrewFriedberg hey, be nice to yourself! You are not an idiot. If you were, I don't think your channel would be this popular. 😉
@@sarahcampbell1115 while I agree with you unfortunately there are lots of idiotic people that get a huge following
@@stevenstewart782 fair point lol
that first scene in the kitchen was literally him (jake) gaslighting her (taylor). red flags all over the place. he was making her feel crazy by saying she was overreacting & being selfish by feeling out of place because wasn’t even paying her any mind, just because his friends were around. it wasn’t her being juvenile, it was her noticing the beginning of a serious problem. that’s why that part of the film is called “the first crack in the glass”.
also- this song was written when red came out. it’s ten years old. she gave us this long version of the song because we begged for it. she’s not hung up on him in the slightest, she released this for us lmao
Well I don't think she's hung up on him I think he's one of the people from her past that she will never forgive and she has said in an interview that you don't have to forgive or forget in order to move on you just move on and I believe that's what she did
@@stevenstewart782 yes !! absolutely !!
@@katie__joy__ also I edited my comment because there is more than one person shall never forgive
To add to this great take is that her view of him started to change when she saw him yelling on the phone. the image she had of him being a sweet little feminist started to flake away and thats why it flashed back to that part before the fight scene, right after he dropped her hand. She was realizing he is not who she thought he was.
Favorite line.. "this g-string, not the one I'm wearing"
This song was written years ago but was cut out into 5 mins instead. She slipped in an interview and said that it has a "10 minute version" and since then her fans were "begging" for years and now she finally did released it for the re-recordings and made a short film to have another gift for the fans. She was also asked in an interview who this song is about which she said that "it's not about me anymore but ours" meaning it's about the listeners own experiences.
Taylor is over him now. She is with Joe Alwyn now. She wrote this song years ago.
Taylor was asked at the premiere of this short movie about this song, and she said that, it's about that coming of age heartbreak. It's a weird time being 18,19,20,21 around that age, where your one foot is in childhood and the other one is in adulthood. That big heartbreak during that time is usually very formative.
In the argument scene, I understand the guy's point of view in the sense that the hand dropping was a sub-conscious moment for him. The warning bell is when he refuses to admit what he did could legit hurt her. It's nothing for him, sure, but for her, feeling ignored and insecure among his older friends, that moment would feel like rejection/abandonment. He only said sorry because he wanted the fight to be over quickly but really he thought he wasn't responsible and she was 'making herself feel that way'. I get why an older, experienced guy would be like 'agh, I can't do this seNsiTiVe thing' and a relationship would be less 'romantic', but if you decide to date someone a decade younger when you're 30, no way you can expect that you'll have all the fun + idealization and none of the immaturity/insecurity.
John Meyer, from Taylor's POV, was just an emotionally manipulative playboy (please listen to 'Dear John' ) and Harry Styles was after this when she was a bit older, but in your early twenties you get this gorgeous, older actor fall for you and want you- gonna feel pretty novel ('are you for real? sometimes I think I made you up'), the relationship is super passionate ('loving him was red') and then he makes you think you have a real thing, then says 'I'm too old or for you', break up, and THEN starts dating someone your age again... it's sure to mess with your head, and sure to be a formative experience when you're in your early 20s. Jake G was the big one in this sense.
She’s not hung up on Jake at all and is not mad😭😭. This song was written 10 years ago with the Red album that she’s re recording. Her fans have been begging for this 10 minute version for years now so it has more to do with us rather than her past feelings on whoever this song is about
First off, thank you as always for reacting and being honest!
I think you were pretty much on the right track with understanding most of it the way the fans see it, especially stuff related to their age difference and that she was really hurt. The main difference is that I don’t think she’s still hurt. She’s said this song has become something that makes her happy to sing instead of sad because the fans embraced it so much and love it like she did when she wrote it even though she thought no one would care but her because it was so personal. It’s less about how she feels about him now and more about the connection fans (mostly women) have to this experience. Since the original All Too Well has been seen as her magnum opus song for years now she wanted to make it the star of the rerelease and give the fans the full experience and full range of emotions she was experiencing back then that she cut out. Also the topic of older men with younger women, especially in entertainment, has been a big topic lately and she never fully expressed the extent of how she felt about it back then, and also with this new lens of “oh this was heartbreak but also it was inappropriate and manipulative”. She sort of sterilized things back then and I think she just wants people to feel cathartic being able to relate to something like this and not feel alone.
Also, people have always belittled her songs and feelings because they said “it was only a 3 month relationship” but I think she’s trying to show that (1) it was actually longer than what the public knows, (2) I love you’s and bodies were shared (maybe even for her first time?), (3) there was a lot of condescension and manipulation there, and (4) when you’re young and impressionable those feelings are real and deep no matter what those around you have to say about it.
The initial relationship appears to have been 3 months but have to realize other songs on red also talked about this relationship We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together tells us that it went on and off for a few months more
@@stevenstewart782 exactly. There were already clues it was more back and forth than just “they dated for 3 months and broke up” and the new all too well lyrics add to that timeline. They likely talked for a little before they met up, “publicly” hung out for 3 months when it was still new and easy, and then were on and off for another several months more privately when it was more complicated before it ended for real. And for anyone, but especially a 20-21 year old, that’s a long time and emotionally exhausting.
Taylor was heartbroken because the main reason jake provided for the breakup was their age ("you said if we had been closer in age maybe it would have been fine, and that made me want to die"). But the fact that he still dated girls her age after the breakup was what the most confusing thing was. Jake is 40 and has a 25 year old gf rn. So ("i'll get older but your lovers stay my age") taylor was young. He made her question everything she loves on the basis of her "age"
I feel like the 10 minute version of All Too Well is best appreciated after listening to the entire Red album (which is why it’s the last song on the album). There’s little references littered throughout the album that reference other songs and such.
There’s an entire song dedicated to “the big one” missing her birthday, which gets a couple lines in All Too Well. There’s also songs which reference how she never felt included or like she belonged in his life, which I feel like was supposed to be represented in the fight scene, but it wasn’t executed well…
There is also some subtle tie ins like “after 3 months in the grave” which go along with the songs on the album that talk about on-again off-again relationships. They only officially dated for around 3 months, but it’s clear they were connected with eachother for months after their “breakup”.
Also, the “I was never good at telling jokes” line is hilarious with the context that in a few of her songs she mentions that he didn’t think she was funny. She definitely took that personally at the time
And in “I bet you think about me” she mention his “upper class circle” that let her sit in the table but where talking about “mature” snobi things that she didn’t get… a total reference of that scene with the friends…
One of the major points of the video is how the age and experience gap gives him an unfair advantage that he exploits readily and without remorse…and then he turns around and blames her for their differences, after deliberately picking a much younger partner.
All those lyrics aren't new. They were in the original song but shortened. She is not reliving this feelings. Just rerecording an album stolen from her. The fans have begged for her to release the original and longer version of this song, so she did
I don't mean to be rude or anything. You're doing a great job and searching to understand her tumultuous life is hard work
I think the whole thing about the age gap and how you experience romantic relationships differently at different ages is very real, the point here is that the older person shouldn’t expect the young one to act more maturely. Cause then it seems very convenient that you get all the “perks” of going out with a pretty young innocent face but refuse the fact that they won’t act and react and care about the same things as someone your age, y’know
Agreed. I am more sympathetic to his POV during that fight than most here, but still knowing he was 10 years older sort of strips that away. All he needed to do was listen to her and validate her feelings, that is all she really needed.
Just a "hey, I was just really enjoying catching up with my friends, but I totally get why you felt left out. Next time I will make more of an effort to bring you into things, but when I am using my hands to gesticulate while story telling and joking isn't a good time to try to hold one of them. It doesn't mean I don't love you.... oh and next time talk to me about what's bothering you instead of pouting and clanking about passive aggressively with the dishes and giving me the silent treatment."
Hey Andrew, I am sure plenty of swifties have maybe mentioned this before, but here I am repeating it (sorry) This version of the song WAS the one written 10 years ago, she just did not record the WHOLE thing `cuz it was already a 5 min. long track.
The only reason THIS version is out is THE FANS, they have known OF this version since 2012 (maybe 2013), and they have been asking her for it since then. That is WHY she recorded THIS. In regards to the video, is NOT that she still has some pain over it and portrayed it, it has AGAIN more to do with what she throughout the years has heard the FANS picture when they listened to the song and made it into the film (yes there are certain things that are autobiographical but also some other things that the fans envisioned in it)
All in all the song is pretty self-explanatory just with the lyrics. BUT we WANTED a video.
I don't think you're wrong about the age thing and I think most of her fans realize this. The not liking the male character is not because he was in the wrong about the hand dropping, it's more the fact that he's older and should've known better than to date a 20 year old who in many ways was still very naive. Also, coming from a female perspective, if you're dating an older guy who you think is cooler than you (I know very young way of thinking, but let's remember the female in this scenario is 20) and he doesn't really include you when with his friends, it does make you feel like he's embarrassed or he doesn't care about you (yes, I'm speaking from my younger self experience.) I think it's very telling that he introduced her to family, but then would pull away and distance himself around his peers. When you grow older the age gap doesn't feel so big, but when you're in your formative years, just a simple thing like holding hands tells the world and acknowledges that you are indeed a couple. If anything this scene shows how insecure she felt in this relationship and as the older person who already had so much more experience the male character should've been aware and made his intentions clear.
give claire her sweatshirt back dude
Andy, I’m glad you react to this one. Really hoping you react to her SNL performance of this song. Perfect.
I’ve called you lovely so ...this reaction was really weird and I hope you don’t really relate to the male character. Because it’s not about the hand-holding, it’s about what he did after. Instead of being defensive and saying she was “holding him hostage to a moment he didn’t remember” he could have said, “It wasn’t a big deal to me, but I can see how for you it was and in future, I’ll check in. Hurting you, even inadvertently, isn’t what I’m about.” Sometimes abuse comes in the form of not acknowledging slip ups and making the other person feel dismissed and sabotaged whenever they don’t look at you with awe and adulation. Handing her dirty dish after dirty dish to clean as he was relentlessly delivering his patronizing rant wasn’t awesome either. Not terribly mature, if you ask me. Hoping here you just completely missed the underhandedness and manipulation, but you know yourself better than we do.
Regarding the dropping of the hand: she reached out for his hand trying to communicate to him that she was feeling left out, which he totally ignored. And then he didn’t look at or speak to her for the rest of the night. THEN he told her she was crazy, stupid, and unfair to be upset that he didn’t try and involve her in the conversation around people who knew but she had never met. So yes, age did play a role in the situation but it was only a part
The scene in the kitchen is basically him gaslighting the shit out of her
I mean... just don’t have relationships with people 10 years younger and then be mad at then because they act like they were 10 years younger? But I Also get how kind of naturally you get his point of view and that’s fine too hehe
Great reaction! oh dude, Taylor Swift music videos are pretty great! she always puts so much thought into the story and production.
I know this has been said already, but everyone should try and remember that these lyrics were written 10 years ago, right after they had broken up. She is not still nursing a broken heart or anything like that, it's been 10 years. Taylor Swift gave us this song because as fans we have been asking and legit begging her for the original 10 minute version since we found out that our favorite song was originally 10 minutes long.
Pretty sure you’re my favorite reactor on RUclips! You’re so funny and I love when you speak about your own personal experiences. You could make an hour long video and I’d watch every second of it. Great reaction to my favorite song :)
Same I love him lol
While I think her response to the hand dropping could be indicative of her age, it had a lot more to do with her feeling uncomfortable and him not even caring. She cared for him so much more then he cared for her. That much is clear.
How did you watch that spoken scene and turn that to "she is clingy and possessive" holy shit check your privilege >.>
Re: the whole hands dropping/fight scene. Definitely it is about the age difference, but tooff. as he is the one who is a decade older than her, he should expect that from her. She's barely an adult so expecting her to be cool with the snub is a tad unreasonable - when you pursue a young girl and then get pissed she acts like what she is that is gaslighting and pretty gross.
But, personally, the problem I have is that he asks her why she's pissed off - she was feeling rejected and insecure which is a valid response but wasn't yelling about it or accusing him - until he asks her about it and then tells her she's being ridiculous without listening to her or trying to understand her. He wasn't trying to patch things up, he was trying to shame her into smiling silence because that's more comfortable to him and he didn't gaf how she felt or what she experienced. It's the patronizing way he picked a fight and then blamed her for it way more than a moment of being inconsiderate at a dinner party. Just my take ofc.
I love seeing a non-Swiftie reaction, it gives the song another perspective/interpretation which is never a bad thing.
I do agree with you that it's an age thing, but i think it's more at the time that she's feeling very out of place (which is partially about their ages but can happen at any age meeting someone's friends). He should be trying to make her feel welcome and part of things but instead he's just ignoring her and focusing on himself. It's understandable on his side, but it also feels really bad for the other person. I think the bad thing he did was not trying to understand after the fact when they were talking about it. She was saying 'this upset me' and he didn't take her feelings seriously and was dismissive of them. That's never good in a relationship even if the other person is indeed being unreasonable.
The song was written 10 years ago. The feelings and anger from the lyrics are those of her in that time. I don't think Taylor is feeling that way today. She is in a happy relationship now. She just released this version because fans were begging her to do so. Anyways, love watching your reactions. You should check her song with Phoebe Bridgers from this album!
The “so casually cruel in the name of being honest” line I believe it’s about him calling her and admitting he cheated. If you listen to “babe” and all other songs about him (including this one) where she talks about promises they made to each other (in babe she sings “broke the sweetest promise that you never should have made” and “we said no one else”) it’s clear she cheated on her and I think that call was about him admitting it, thus the “you call me up again just to break me like a promise”
woops i also wanted to say, i love the part at the end when she's doing the reading, and to me it shows how she herself was able to process her feelings by writing them down/putting it into her art. Taylor always mentions now how much fans have changed this song for her by sharing their own stories and love for the song, and i loved that little nod to us
(also appreciate that you went back to look for the other lyrics you realized were missing in the shorter version :D)
I love to see you turning into a fan
You should react to her live performance of this on SNL. Really great.
NOT THE ONE I AM WEARING☠️
She is not hung up on him anymore… she wrote this 10 years ago.
maybe is because of past experience but the way i interpret the dinner scene is that he maybe did not introduce her as his girlfriend to his friends because she was too young like said in the song he "kept her like a secret", we can also notice that in that scene her glass of wine is full and the others ware empty ( taylor was still 20 when they dated and said that she didnt drink until after she was 21) even more indiction that the friends did not know her age
From "I bet you think About Me," it sounds like it was a super pretentious douchefest of Brooklyn hipster "intellectuals," and there was no way she could be a part of a conversation where someone is talking about learning the meaning of life from a book she hadn't heard of. Even when you are the same age, there is no way to be a part of that conversation unless you are subtly mocking them. Which you would not do if they were your boyfriend's friends. But since she was so young and he made her think he was so smart and cool, she probably thought she was inferior,
I kinda love how Taylor has never to this day confirmed that this is about Jake and how even Brian said this character's name was Brandon. 👏 this is for the fans aka me, not jake. This is for the 19 year old me who had a relationship similar to this with an older man who should have never looked at me and cried for years to red. This movie is for me at 19 and all the other girls who felt all these exact moments in some way, low key feels like better healing from this film happened than all the therapy i did.
You should react to Ronan too...it's seriously a beautiful song and I think it deserves more recognition and praise
be prepared to ugly cry
She has to sing the 5 min version with same emotion or it's not a master replacement. Then, it would sound ridiculous to do the 10 min version as "eh, who cares anymore". Plus, she did the 10 minutes for the fans. Watch video for "I bet you think about me" - the sarcasm and fun is all there!
“You could have been the one.” - Better Man, Taylor Swift Version 😢
Not the one I'm wearing... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great reaction man! 🔥❤🧣🤟
Dude, you are so far the only person in all of the 'All Too Well' short film reaction videos I have watched who's getting the exact the same impression of what T.S. was trying to say in her 10 mins version song. I think the anger and hurt from her 5 mins version has turned into this more somber and reflective 10 mins version of what I am pretty certain was the first real love of her life (hence the word 'Innocent') after a few years the song was first released. The memory of one's first love both happiness and the hurt of the heartbreak and the regret of the relationship didn't work out for the stupidest excuse will never go away! In fact, as you grow older and go through other relationships, each time a relationship breaks down the intensity of your first love (many considered as the one true love) will also grow stronger - the happiness, the hurt and the regret all of those feelings at the same time.
At the end of the 10 mins version, she switched her anger from the end of her 5 mins version to a more somber and direct conversation to her first love: "Just between us, was our love affair meant as much to you as it was to me? and did it hurt you as much as it hurts me(still)? do you still remember it as I am from time to time? our (kind of) love was rare, do you still remember it? because I still remember it..."
And that end part of the 10 mins version is my favorite part. it showed me Taylor's maturity and how her first true love affair shaped the great artist she has become today.
i think the whole dropped my hand arguments message is pretty obvious: shes 10 years younger and acting like a 20 year old obviously for him, you, or anyone who's a bit older watching would think its stupid but its not her fault for acting like shes 10 years younger than him cause she is and he knows that
I’m decades older and I don’t think it’s stupid. I think Men and Andy interpreted it as the female needing attention and cuddles when that isn’t at all what she needed. I think Andy thinks it’s funny to mock her feelings as stupid, but most people get it that these feelings are real life for many people, not stupid. The guys behavior was disturbing and upsets most people who watch it. You are right, someone age 20 at that stage in her life would not have been able to hold her own in that setting, so being 10 yrs younger is a key factor but I don’t think her response was stupid or unreasonable, I think his response to her was.
The I bet you think about me music video that just came off (Red vault track) is really good / funny!
He was wearing her red scarf at the end when he was watching her
I think the 5 min version is a lot more sad and nostalgic where as the 10 min she does seem more angry! But she released this for the fans, we’ve known about it for YEARS. She wrote this song during a rehearsal for her Speak Now tour and the band just joined in and luckily they were recording.
I’m so happy you’re watching Miss Americana!!
Please react to her SNL performance! Also her Grammy performance of the original version from 2014 on piano. I didn't have super high expectations for ATW10 and I never expected her to make a video but I was blown away and can't stop listening! Btw you should listen to the whole Red album (it's a heartbreak album but really diverse- she was experimenting with a lot of sounds and some of her best writing)
I read in other reaction comments that she must have lost her virginity to him, the affair was 3 months long, he didn't show up to her 21st bday, and he has lovers of young age like her after their break up. So when she sang that the scarf reminded him of innocence , that must be of her virginity and youth at the time. She is so good with lyrics.Brilliant, brilliant mind! Thank you for your reactions to her music .
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The hand fight scene. I love this scene. It shows a fight that comes from minor social dynamics that are hard to put words to. I’ve had arguments with partners where we start to fixate on one thing (in the films case, the hand dropping) but it’s not about that. It’s about the repeated situation that the hand drop resembles. Which in this case is exclusion. She mentions he didn’t look at her, talk to her. I’ve been in awkward situations with a boyfriend and his friends where I just feel like vapid arm candy. Why isn’t he talking to me, why do people not want to know what I think? I am here right? And there are solutions to this that both partners should do. But sometimes you’re intimidated, in your head and it ends up just being kind of a weird night.
So he says that he hasn’t seen his friends in 10 years and that’s why he was so into the group outside of her and distracted. That doesn’t make him awful, but it is rude. She could’ve just stayed home then. Why invite her if you don’t need her to be a part of this moment?
Of course this conversation could’ve been handled way better. He starts in by attacking how she feels put off. Bad start and it escalated from there.
That’s my Ted talk on that scene.
I love how this song doesn’t really vilify either party. It just shows the mess. A lot of times that’s how a relationship ends. It’s not anything 100% clear, it just didn’t work, we couldn’t communicate, make each other feel safe, etc. And as a woman, seeing the fixation of her problems with him are him belittling her feelings and making her feel small, I relate to that feeling in a couple relationships I’ve had. It doesn’t mean they’re awful, but it was sucky for me and I shouldn’t feel crazy for saying that. The lyrics like “you charmed my dad … sipping coffee like you were on a late night show.” And “the idea you had of me; who was she? A never needy ever lovely jewel who’s shine reflects on you.” And “casual cruel in the name of being honest” hit so hard when I’m thinking about those relationships. They didn’t out right hurt me, abuse me, etc but they made me small. I think many people, especially women relate to this sentiment in at least one past relationship.
26:45 that was very well put. I understood it this way too
"I meant the G string on the guitar, not the one I'm wearing" Hilarious! 🤣 Great reaction & I'm glad you'll be watching her doc. I think you'll gain a lot of insight & respect for her. It doesn't go into the specifics of any of her relationships except for a little about Joe. It's more about her life experiences behind the scenes that most people didn't realize-& are honestly somewhat heartbreaking to know now. Can't wait to see that reaction!
In real life, their relationship started off with lots of jet setting. Trips to London to premiers, vacation in an exclusive California resort, flying around the country to meet eachother’s families. This was around the time of the release of Speak now and Jake had the promo for the film Love and Other Drugs. A lot of media speculation over possible chemistry between Jake and Anne Hathaway (his co star) during this time.
With the “casually cruel in the name of being honest” I think there’s another interpretation that we see in other songs where she talks about two people who know each other so well and so know what tools are best for hurting the other person. I see that line and I think about someone who knows that what they’re saying is going to hurt and is borderline cruel but says “I’m just being honest” and so in that way kinda removes their own accountability in pettily and uncaringly hurting the other person in a moment of anger or annoyance or resentment.
And she really isn’t still hung up on his. She teased us years ago saying that this song was originally 10 mins long. We pestered her for years and when she announced the re-recordings, we begged on our knees to release it and she freaking did. This was definitely her biggest heartbreak but she’s happier now than she’s ever been. As far as we can tell anyway lol.
LMAO I had to comment on the g-string, cause I laughed so hard.
Yes, the scarf is a metaphor, I believe.
This song is (Taylor's Version) but it's also Taylor's version, you know? And they obviously couldn't relate and communicate across the age gap and their experiences. It's heartbreaking though
excited for miss americana!!! also if u liked this, i’m thinking u might like lady gaga’s marry the night, it’s also a short film/music video but compared to this, that one will be more arthouse
I scrolled a couple comments and didn’t see it but in the intensity of Taylor’s emotion and anger, it is rumored the scarf is a metaphor for Taylor’s own “innocence” and those are the plaid shirt nights she was referring to.
He was also seen wearing Taylor’s scarf 🧣 after their break up. So he did keep it. Even after never telling her he loved her in their relationship. He really toyed with her.
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She DID play it live
This song will always be special for Taylor and swiftie because it was her first serious relationship and he was her first. Hope her album name Red explains
she is also says in ''message in the bottle'' song that he could be the one
Where in the hell have you been my whole life, sir? 🖤
"I still remember the first" "it smells of innocence" Basically he was an older guy who probably was her first lover. He then dropped her in a cruel way, not showing up to her 21st birthday party, only ringing afterwards. On breaking up with her he claimed the age gap was an issue, yet immediately went on to date a female younger than himself. (Still is). She wrote this song in the immediate aftermath of the breakup. She was heartbroken. Now all these years later she has released the 10 min (original) version for her fans. The fans knew the song was originally written much longer than what was put out on Red. To satisfy her fans she has given them what the wanted, the original uncut song. So, no she isn't hung up a a relationship that ended badly a decade ago. She's moved on but she is giving her fans what they've asked for. More power to Taylor! She's probably one of the greatest songwriters of the 21st century. Can you imagine what else is to come? She is still only 31 yrs old. Theoretically she has another 60 yrs ahead of her. My guess is she will be prolific. Love & peas 😉
I love the part repeating "i was there". And that she remembers it all too well. This is how it feels when you are gaslighted and he invalidates everything and makes you feel crazy.
Also "i'll get older but your lover stays my age". So if the problem was her age, why does he keep dating younger women... so does this mean he just likes to feel superior and dominant
He was very toxic to her. Of course sue was immature at times, she WAS young that time. He was a grown ass boy so he should've known better and he full knowingly entered a relationship with a young girl..
!st love your reactions they are genuine. And be nicer to yourself don't have to say your an idiot I like to call myself a moron instead. LOL
Taylor said in a interveiw before realeasing this song that when she was originally recording Red she went in for a sound check/warm up and this version of the song just came out when she left the booth her Mom asked the sound op if he had been recording and he said yes. she said keep that the song was cut down to the original album 5 min version cause the label said she couldn't release a 10 min song. Now that she is re-recording her music so she can own her masters she is including all the songs that she wrote that didnt make the albums. Her Vault songs that are on each new (Taylor Version) albums.
Their dishwashing argument is an inevitable moment between lovers who stay together for a while. In the midst of his old friends that night they become distant and separate in a unexpected way causing their moods to get wildly out of synch. The vulnerabilities they had cultivated in one another then get used as weapons in their kitchen recap of the evening. Neither one of them knew knew how to handle it when the fever of their romance broke and they glimpsed the gap between them. The lyric jewels alone like "Broke me like a promise" and "double-crossed my mind" put this in the top echelon of breakup songs.
This G string. Not the one I'm wearing 💀😭
"You never called it what it was" ruins me every time I hear this song
Please react to “ Better Man” and “ I bet you think about me” off of the Red album Taylor’s version. It tells more of the story……
If you completely isolate the “dropping the hand” incident, then yes, it’s a minor, silly thing to get upset over, for sure. But I’m pretty sure the point she was making throughout the whole song and film, was that those type of gestures were common of him towards her. He was overall very dismissive of her in the course of the relationship. And those little things always add up to major issues of his character/behavior (him literally tossing the car keys on the ground for her to pick up when he was on the phone instead of handing it to her like a decent person would do. Etc, etc.). It seems, through the song, that he has a history of diminishing her and making her and her feelings seem inconsequential. And that says A LOT about him. Also, you are correct, there was the age gap difference in mindset. But then again, this ALSO shows a lot about him. How he was eager and willing to get into a relationship with a girl many, many years younger than him until she started to be upset over his bullshit behavior, then suddenly he didn’t like it anymore. Oh, well…
And yet he reach to her many times after the main break up trying to get back together, that’s what the lines “you never call it what it was till we where dead and gone and burry, check the pulse and come back swearing it’s the same”… also the “we are never ever getting back together” and the “I bet you think about me” song… so technically he was an asshole with her and use the “age immature” excuse to break up… but and he tried to get her back… such an hypocrite…
Jake Gyllenhaal was caught by paparazzi wearing the same scarf taylor wore prior when they were dating... after they've broken up. 😂
Imo the best Song ever created in Music history.
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What sucks for her is that after they broke up, he'd still call her up so they were on and off.
Plus when he told her that it mightve worked if she was older, it really was a joke to her cause after her, he'd still date girls her age.
Also in another song, he didn't think she was funny at all. That's why she said i wasn't good at telling jokes.
Relating to him....................interesting
I always thing, if a person is too immature to have a long term relationship with, you probably shouldn’t of had a sustained sexual relationship to begin with. Obviously they were both adults but I feel like in any relationship with this kind of age gap the older adult should be more cautious. This might be their 5th relationship of the sort but it’s most likely one of the first “adult” relationships the younger person has experienced. Just always bothers me when I see older adults being so careless in relationships with inexperienced people. By the way loved your video, just had to vent about it for minute!
I think it was her first big relationship when she wrote this song at 21. Now i don't think that's the case.
she's not hung up on him - she lost the rights to all her music and she is taking it back with her remakes. this time though she is singing from a woman's perspective and not a girl. she gave him the gift of her virginity and its something she can never get back. its metaphoric as much as literal. how can people miss this? Also her at the event its filled with the same people at the dinner party - and they are all ignoring her. but even the end - he still has the red scarf. which is symbolic at the end.
Being angry that your partner drops your hand is not unreasonable. Wanting to hold your partners hand is not a sign of immaturity. It just means that your love language is physical touch, and a partner who loves you would love you in the way that you feel loved. The guy gaslights the fuck out of her in that scene, saying he doesn't remember the moment as if she is making it up. He makes her feel like crazy and minimizes her insecurities as if they are unimportant. That's pure emotional abuse.
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I think it’s him making her feel like an insane pile of crap for being upset at how he acted around her that sucks. (Gaslighting). He eventually comes around and says he’s sorry. I think you’re totally right about the age difference being an issue at this point in their lives. Having said that, ladies- this isn’t something that you just have to put up with. There are guys who will understand what made you upset without making you feel like it’s your fault and discount what you’re saying. Hold out for those guys!
And speaking of John Mayer, “Dear John” is a great song, ha!
Okay, so gossip aside. Listen to I Bet You Think About Me & Better Man. The song and the story will really click when you hear the grand scheme of things.
P.S. I think she can be in a happy healthy relationship and still vividly recall old feelings.
She didn't write it now. She wrote it 11 years ago right after they broke up. She re-record the album so she can own her master. She's not obsessing over past relationships. All too well is considered the swifties anthem by her fans and they've been asking her to release the 10 minute original version for years and they always wanted a video for that song. Now that she's re- recording her albums she's released the songs that were not included in the original. She also released from the vault songs for Fearless album and although there were a couple of songs that were about Joe Jonas, she's not obsessing about him either. She's been over these guys for years, but these songs are gems and her fans want to hear them.
jake gyllenhaal has never regretted so much for not returning a scarf 😂
even if she did overreact about the hand thing (which i dont think she did) he made it so much worse. he could have just apologized, but he didn’t.
This is the original version of the song. They cut it down to be more radio friendly even though it was never a single.
Is she still hung up on this? Maybe? Remember that Midnights is all about the things from her past that keep her up at night. It's her history, bad and good. It seems like John Mayer is the biggest bad memory, I mean WCS? C'mon! But Jake is up there too, I don't think Jake got a song on Midnights. It just happens, you wonder what would have been if only x, y or z didn't happen.
I think it's got a lot to do with her being the age that those guys were and she can see how ridiculous it is to be dating someone so much younger. Sure there's guys who are cute but my reaction to them as a 51 year old woman is to make them a sandwich and a glass of milk, not to date them!