Taking care of Scandi edges / Enzo & Mora

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  • Опубликовано: 9 окт 2024
  • Mora Companion in 12C27 and Enzo Trapper in AUS8.
    Chosera #3000 stone finishes up the whole bevel like a mirror.

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  • @gr33ncake
    @gr33ncake 5 лет назад +10

    One of the very best Knife Channels I have ever watched. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  11 лет назад +22

    I learned English when I was a high school student. I learned science in university with books written in English. I now study and speak English only on RUclips. Thanks.

    • @Francois_Dupont
      @Francois_Dupont 5 лет назад +1

      i also learned english online watching video and talking to people. i think it is better way of doing it since you are talking to real people instead of reading book.

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  11 лет назад +7

    Mora is the keenest knife in the world. Its carbon steel is harder than 12C27 and holds a bit better. Mora Companion is not so useful on the cut board in the kitchen maybe because of its blade and handle feature. I used Chosera 400/800/2000/3000 stones. Scandi sharpening is a lot of joy honestly. Thanks.

  • @themoodybobby1
    @themoodybobby1 11 лет назад

    the moral was the fastest wood cutter yet and the cheapest knife of all. great video

  • @Will-Xaru
    @Will-Xaru 11 лет назад

    Another great video from you! Thanks to the videos you did on taking care of knife strops I have been able to successfully restore 3 strops to working condition. I have also achieved a new "milestone" in the sharpness I achieve with a short sharpening session, I can now cut through newspaper very easily with a sharpening process of about 5-10 minutes with first a DC-4 ceramic side, then a 8000 grit stone then stropping. Perfect for the outdoors. Thanks a lot and have a nice day. :-)

  • @BushcraftGeo2
    @BushcraftGeo2 11 лет назад +1

    Great video, as you usually have us accustomed. It's not easy to keep the edges Scandis, and you show it with simplicity and easily.
    Congratulations

  • @elvinamillaneam
    @elvinamillaneam 11 лет назад

    Love those sharping videos... I learn from your videos how to my sharping knives and have pretty good cutting edge on my blades...

  • @RevanJJ
    @RevanJJ 2 года назад

    Wow this was so helpful. Wish I could afford the top notch strips and whetstones, but so have some and trying to apply all I’m learning.

  • @snaponjohn100
    @snaponjohn100 11 лет назад

    Thank you for the post. God bless you and your family. John

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  11 лет назад

    I took your suggestion and did it. The bevel is just slightly convex all the way from the starting line to the apex. Of course it doesn't have a micro bevel and is very sharp. So I think its natural slightly convexed bevel is acceptable enough. Thanks.

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  11 лет назад +1

    Yes. They took micro rolls and chips after some deer dressings and finally their apex angle went 30 degrees or so because of repeated restoration by black compound stropping. They finally went substantially duller and I gave them zero Scandi again. But those regular grade stainless steels didn't hold well after this light job. They will need a micro bevel chance by chance until their angle gets tough enough. But when their angle goes over 30 degrees again, I will need to resharpen them again.

  • @Michaeljm84
    @Michaeljm84 8 лет назад

    I'm watching some of the old videos. Still awesome !!

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  11 лет назад

    I think Mora's carbon steel is a bit harder and takes a bit smaller angle than 12C27. I personally prefer Companion's thin handle to Bushcraft's thick handle. Robust's handle is just thick and not very good in my experience. I think Mora Bushcraft in 2.5mm Triflex carbon steel is the most efficient bushcraft knife. It will be discontinued but is now still available. I have a Bushcraft Force in 12C27 and its handle has great ergonimics. Thanks.

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  11 лет назад

    To keep its smallest angle I use only Bark River white compound. When I need a bit larger angle, I use Bark River black compound before the white one. Thanks.

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  11 лет назад

    I have never owned the full-flat Trapper. But I believe its geometry is the same as my other full-flat knives. They take my convexing very well and useful enough for deer dressing. But they don't have wood separating potential and are no good for wood jobs. As long as the Scandi Trapper keeps its zero grind Scandi bevel not taking a micro convex bevel on it like my one, it is a scary sharp knife. But to hold its sharpness long, its steel must be a decent one. My one is AUS8 and no good. Thanks.

    • @RevanJJ
      @RevanJJ 2 года назад

      Have you seen the Mora Kansbol, Sir? That knife combines scandi and I believe convex. It’s a very interesting knife geometry with the 12CR Stainless Steel. Thanks for these videos. I’m learning on a budget and this helps a lot.

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  11 лет назад

    Yes. My Companion is SS, but I also have a Clipper in a carbon steel. Thanks.

  • @86Sile
    @86Sile 11 лет назад

    Hi, thank you for your videos!
    Have you ever try an Enzo trapper full-flat? What do you prefer between enzo scandi and enzo full-flat?
    Thank you very much.

  • @mrkoren
    @mrkoren 11 лет назад

    Wako,
    In your video, you said that you used the tangent to find the edge angle, but this is incorrect. The length of the bevel would be the hypotenuse of the triangle, not the side adjacent to the angle you're taking the tangent of. The function you want to use is arcsin, instead of arctan.
    If you want the angle between the two bevels, and assuming the bevels are the same, you would take 2*arcsin( (1/2)*blade thickness / bevel length )

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  11 лет назад

    I am sure only for wood jobs Scandi Trapper is by far better. For food prep, game dressing, or something like such soft cutting Full Flat Trapper in a secondary home made convex edge can be better from my personal experience. Thanks.

  • @Thetinebroken
    @Thetinebroken 11 лет назад

    I really like thin blades and I know BRK does not make many because of warranty. I wish ultralight bushcrafter was a bit longer.

  • @DeanO
    @DeanO 11 лет назад

    Great video my friend

  • @MrEShue
    @MrEShue 11 лет назад

    .... Could you hold a flat ruler or something similar against the scandi bevel to see whether it has a slight convex or whether it is real "flat" please. In my experience, even if I do it carefully on stones, the scandi always turns out slightly convex,. Thanks, Andy

  • @carpkai
    @carpkai 11 лет назад

    I had no idea Japan had such great deer hunting, and deer hunters. Here in Ohio, U.S.A., we cannot process our deer in the field. We can gut them, then they must be taken to a deer check-in station. We may use bow, crossbow, shotgun with a single projectile slug, or a handgun .357 or larger caliber. I only have a Mora Robust for a hunting knife, and for the money it works very well. How did you learn to speak English? I really like your videos

  • @TheRedRider100
    @TheRedRider100 11 лет назад

    Wako, what grits did you use ?
    What is your opinion on mora blades?
    Were you pleased the the sharpening on the whole?

  • @Ka-bar
    @Ka-bar 11 лет назад

    i believe its mora and they are worth twice what they cost i have one in every bag and vehicle i own

  • @86Sile
    @86Sile 11 лет назад

    Thank you!
    So for general camp use, dressing., wood, food...the scandi trapper is better than fullflat? Thank you

  • @Forgivenessdaily
    @Forgivenessdaily 11 лет назад

    Your videos are brilliant. What kind of stropping compound do you suggest for maintaining a mora?
    -Cheers!

  • @joesquat2891
    @joesquat2891 11 лет назад

    my rough strop became smooth after long use and stuffed with compound so there were no hairs. after i scarped off most of the compound i used a brush to bring some nappy hair back. after i stropped on it my knife was able to shave hair when it could not before

  • @MrEShue
    @MrEShue 11 лет назад

    ... sorry, getting used to youtube still. Use this link for even easier calculation. Just make sure you use half of the spine thickness since that reflects the middle of the blade. RUclips does not let me post a link, so google Right Triangle Angle And Side Calculator .

  • @powerlinegf
    @powerlinegf 11 лет назад

    In my experience AUS8A is not a good steel. The 2 knives I have had experience with were from SOG and ColdSteel. I work with monofilaments and AUS8A absolutely can not hold up to it. I have found 154CM to be the best for my work related needs. It hold its edge significantly better than D2. One steel than I have been very surprised by is the CroVan steel from Case.

    • @TylerLL2112
      @TylerLL2112 8 лет назад

      powerlinegf I've never found someone who also likes 154cm better than D2. You want want to try M4 steel it will last forever but, it won't be as easy as 154 or D2 to maintain.

  • @masterofce
    @masterofce 11 лет назад

    What kind of stones are you using and where can we purchase them?

  • @StevanOutdoor
    @StevanOutdoor 6 лет назад

    You just like your knives to sharp. That's why you get rolls. These knives are not straight razors. Enjoyed the video.

  • @Forgivenessdaily
    @Forgivenessdaily 11 лет назад

    Thank you. Any suggestions for beginners?

  • @mattklapman
    @mattklapman 7 лет назад

    Love your videos! Please differentiate between "6 mil" and "6 millimeters" since "mils" are an imperial measurement meaning "thousandth of an inch." Thank you :)

    • @bosniakedisniksic
      @bosniakedisniksic 7 лет назад

      And mil means millimeter everywhere else so why should he change for you? Obviously, that knife is not 2 "imperial mils" thick so just use your brain to figure that fact out.

    • @mattklapman
      @mattklapman 7 лет назад

      bosnakedisniksic: Mil is used extensively here in China for thousandth of an inch. I'd rather see mm used everywhere, but it is not the case. Of course one can figure out the meaning via context, but it is not OK to make a request? I think he can make his own choices and decide whether or not to listen to me.

  • @Thetinebroken
    @Thetinebroken 11 лет назад

    Hello, which Mora are you prefering...keenest?
    Thanks

  • @Ka-bar
    @Ka-bar 11 лет назад

    what was the second knife you pulled out?

  • @michaelroutson383
    @michaelroutson383 6 лет назад

    How do you like Buck Alpha Hunter in 420hc or S30V?

    • @virtuovice
      @virtuovice  6 лет назад

      I personally don't like the Alpha Hunter regardless of the steels because it doesn't have a good belly for skinning. I highly recommend you the Cabela's Buck Vanguard in S30V which has awesome edge retention and toughness. Thanks.

  • @wigglos
    @wigglos 11 лет назад

    look at previous videos and use google...
    chosera stones and shapton stones...

  • @fredde90210
    @fredde90210 11 лет назад

    :-0
    nice

  • @MrEShue
    @MrEShue 11 лет назад

    Hi virtuovice,

  • @MrEShue
    @MrEShue 11 лет назад

    Or, even easier, use this