$800-$1200 car payments is insane. I know everyone says “that’s the times where in” but we are at this point because people keep paying these stupid amounts. At this rate a person will always be upside down no matter what package or trim you buy. People need to let these trucks sit on Toyota lots for months and watch the tide turn.
If you're broke just say that. I have a 24 limited and i don't think my 1k payment is high. Maybe you should stop complaining about the price and increase your income to afford the things you want.
@@an237251there’s so much more things to spend a grand on a month besides a vehicle. My mortgage isn’t even that high. I’ll never pay $1000 a month for a vehicle that I can’t do the things I can do in a house. You could save that money for a rainy day fund. You never know what might happen. You might get sick and have to be off work for months or an accident does the same thing. You’re not smart.
@@jeanclaude7018 doubt it. My truck isn't even on the recall list. And if it does toyota came out and said they will be replacing all motors on the list.
Keep working at it. I just traded my 2024 Limited Crewmax fully loaded. I just got the 2024 1794 Edition with TRD off road package for 69,000 from Principle Toyota in Memphis, Tn. I'm just waiting for it to come in.
Great video Mark. It's hard overcoming that negative equity but you might find a dealer desperate enough to come closer to where you want to be. Good luck !
I don’t know about a new recall on the 5.7 but I’ve been with Toyota for years and the first year of it in 2007 the engines were grenading sucking in valves and they replaced them. However memories are short in us humans
The times were in people should be thinking.. I could take half that 1200 car payment and put it into something that is making money... whatever that is for you, and use the other 600 for a used 2019 toyota bulletproof Tundra. I was working in Houston last week (all over the metro) saw some new Tundras sitting in front of the expensive yuppy tower homes near downtown. Saw lots of older model Tundras in the suburbs... Just a snapshot but very telling.
unfortunately insurance totalled my ‘15 bullet proof. Tundra. after caught in a flash flood and stuck for 3 days pulled my RV home from Utah to TX no major issues. it’s on youtube the recovery look up trail mator
Hi Mark! The 1794 in mbm/saddle brown are the best exterior/interior colors in my opinion as they compliment each other perfectly. Definitely the color combo that I would pick if I were in the market for a 3rd gen. 👍
At least Toyota is doing the right thing by replacing all of the engines in the recalled vehicles. I wish they kept the 5.7 though as it would’ve never had that problem in a million years!
It's called change... duh ... you see truck and car manufacturers make new motors and don't stay with a 20yr old design. The 5.7 is gutless and horrible mpg
@@TT-hv8bx Exactly. Trucks never were made for gas mileage to begin with. 5.7 is a bulletproof engine that has made a million miles before. They are guaranteed to make 250,000 miles minimum with maintenance. I don’t think these turbo engines will age well.
@@TT-hv8bx If you had a construction company you would be concerned about mpg. You are the typical ignorant i don't worry about mpg 🤡 and yes that 5.7 is gutless af. Had 3 of them so i should know. I've owned more truck then you,your friends and family combined son. Mpg might save me thousands in 1 yr alone.
First time toyota buyer. I really wanted a new tundra between the lack of deals and the recall issues I wound up with a 2021 sequoia nightshade. Very happy with it and impressed with the quality. I still look at tundra but will wait a few years for the dust to settle.
What's crazy is that 1 year ago I decided to stop by a dealership because I was curious, and I saw exactly your dream truck built down to spec. 2023 1794 Black on Saddle brown with TRD Off Road. Beautiful truck I wanted to take it home. Toyota World of Clinton, NJ.
I’m with you. 1794 is my favorite trim. Smoked mesquite is what I like, but that black is super nice! Hope you get a nice discount and can make it happen
When I decided to trade in my 2023 1794 for a new Limited Edition 1794 I knew I had to get a Midnight Black again to go with the blacked out chrome on the LE. I would have bought a Supersonic Red in a heartbeat if they had made it but of the 4 colors available Midnight Black was my choice and love it. Don't be afraid to do a nationwide search for your dream Toyota and drive a good distance to get it. Dealers are making deals now!
Yes, I’ve always saved a lot for a big down payment when I buy a new vehicle but in your situation I understand it just doesn’t make sense to carry a balance from your old financing to your new truck. I know people do it but your smart to keep your old truck till you get that deal you can’t walk away from or makes sense for you!
Yes, Yes, and Yes, Mark. The 1794 trim with TRD Off-road package and color is the way I’d go - on the fence now, looking to pull the trigger with my 2019 Platinum for trade in
@@TundraDude34 😂 I hear you, Mark. However, if you can believe this - what attracts me most about the new generation Tundra is the night and day difference of the electronics and infotainment systems from that of the last generation. Yes, I love my 5.7 liter 8 cylinder reliability, no denying that. However, I could never get over just how piss poor my so-called “premium” JBL sound system is in comparison to the current generation premium sound system, and user interface. I actually still feel a little bit cheated by Toyota to this day - for my 2019 Platinum trim, and for the cost, I never really got over it. I’ve test driven 2023 and 2024 Tundras both with the big screen and premium audio, no comparison. The additional cost is justified (IMHO). Plus, I’ve always loved the 1794 interior, saddle brown as it reminds me of one of my F-150’s (King Ranch). Anyway, sorry for the rant, but perhaps you would consider making a video that focuses on these features and how they differ drastically from older generations and demonstrate why and how Toyota put so much effort in this type of upgrade. Thanks again for all you do!
Respect to all the V8 owners. But these 3rd gen 1794 TRDs if you can afford one are better! And with Toyota covering any possible engine issue. I dont feel like Ive lost
I’m buying my white on black 2024 Tundra TRD Pro on Saturday? Please let me know if you have any feedback before I pull the trigger. I’m so torn because of all of the previous horror stories on the 2022 and 2023 have those kinks been worked out for the 2024? Should I be worried?
Bought a practically brand new 21 tundra TRD pro with airbags on the back aftermarket wheels. this thing is insane. I bought it online site unseen for $52,210. No way I would want one of those new trucks.
@@TundraDude34I’ve only had one black car, which was a 4Runner. It seemed that I’d wash it, then the dust would settle on it and it would look dirty. So I keep away from black ones.
I thought you leased your trucks, I guess I was wrong. For colors, the sharpest new tundra I’ve seen was a TRD 1794 in smoked mesquite with the cream interior. I thought it looked better than my wind chill 1794 LE
Yeah, IF i were to buy one it would be fully loaded 1794 4x4. 65K? Nahh, thats like selling all my 400 share of GE for a truck that isn't as reliable.. I'm loving my 2019 1794 4x4 more everyday. She's about to hit 37,000 miles. Im saving for that new EV in 2026 but tempted to lease now My trade-in value in 42798 and ( exactly what i paid in summer 2020) the range is 40665-44766..
From one Tundra dude who's constantly wanting a nicer Tundra to another my advice would be to keep your 23 and wait it out for the model year refresh. If you get a crew max now you are going to totally want the model year upgrade in a year and a half. I have wanted to pull the trigger on a platinum or trd pro but I am holding off until the model year refresh because I know I will want to trade in this current gen for that model year refresh. Don't do it Tundra dude don't do it!! Sit with the feelings and let it dissipate, it will dissipate. I do a daily meditation to resist the urge to trade mine in, take 30 deep breaths and feel the urge and let it dissipate, I think I can make it one and a half more years.
I’m sticking with my 2018 Seqouia TRD Sport, and may trade up to the 2021, 1794 Tundra fully loaded and will wait until the 2030 Hybrid Tundra’s kinks have been worked out.
Hey Mark, dealers are not will to negotiate. With the incentives out, they don't want to move from those prices ; they are locked into $68k - $72k range for platinum TRD. A fair price for this trim would be $60k - $65k, that is still $15k more from last gen. Still looking for that deal, it may never happen.
I am absolutely happy that Toyota will give a crate engine to the ones affected by the recall. What I don’t understand is why all truck period until the beginning of 2024 are not included. Per the Car Care Nut the part regarding the main bearing change sometimes in 2024. What I am afraid is that many that are not included will eventually fail. And that to me is the main reason and like I have been saying all along that 22,23, and many 24 will forever loose their value. Cause normally there is no way many like yours are loosing the value so aggressively. I traded in my 2023 1794 TRD off road for a 4Runner before the engine recall news and I’ve got almost 68k for mine barely loosing 2k, cause I got a deal when I bought it new. So there you go. I will entertain looking again after the 2025 model year.
You may find it’s cheaper some time around September. It’s looking like fall interest rate cuts are probably back on again and it may make it more affordable. That being said 🤣 you want MY truck 🤣 I’ve done a bit of chrome deletes on mine and just finished installing AVS bug guard with the pro light bar and the AVS marker lights on the roof. Got some stares about the changes I did today from a tourist who got the Capstone and liked the mods I’ve done 😁
I have an 2023 sr5 crewcab 4x4 in army green with 27000 miles, I just got offered 45k for it, I owe 43k , I live in San Antonio , it was on a lease deal for a 2024 fully loaded limited 4x4 hybrid with trd off-road package and trd lift, payment was going to be 840$ 40$ less than what I owe, I’ve never done a lease before, so I turned it down , to do more research on leases
When im looking at the stills of the dashboard, it looks like the steering wheel is off center to the right. Is it actually off center, or just the picture?
No way I would get upside down in a car these days. Markets are volatile. I can understand why some folks prefer lease deals, but to me it just seems like a sure fire way to lose money. You cannot develop any equity in the vehicle and you are so limited in what you can do about resale. Basically, you get locked into negotiating a trade in with the dealership. And, just like in Vegas, the house always wins.
Your never gonna get equity in a new vehicle and it's doesn't matter if you buy or lease because you can do whatever you want after day 1. A lease is no different then buying except you can probably get 0 % interest and you payment will be cheaper.
@@atg1338 Huh? I have a 2020 Tundra Pro that is paid for. It is worth ~$45-50K and practically what I paid for it. How many lease owners can say the same? I think leasing makes sense for car customers who want a new car every 2-3 years, but not for those of us who keep a truck for 10+ years.
@@atg1338 Who wants it? Well I do. That is why I bought it. I wanted it 4 years ago and still love it. Do a search for a 2020 TRD Pro in Army Green with 13,000 miles. I'm not saying that my truck is an investment. Unless we are buying a vintage show car, really no car is a good investment. Mine is a daily driver and should last me another 10+ years. Yes, the truck R&D is basically a 2007 design but you are dead wrong about it being worth $30K. Toyota has a knack for refining their designs over many years, making the later years in any platform the best of that version. The same thing that has happened with the '22-'23 recall, occurred in 2007 with the Tundra. I have the luxury of being patient and waiting a few years before purchasing. Will I consider a '25 or '26? Unlikely at this point, but I expect that by then, Toyota will have most of the bugs worked out of the new Gen.
I struck big time, not a tundra though. I may go back to a Tundra when they redesign the front end and improve quality control. Mark, you are totally right though, great time to score a deal. I bought a leftover 2023 402A Azure Gray Tremor this week. Found it in PA and it was delivered this morning. 73k I got it for 59k including shipping. Never thought I’d own a truck like this, TRD pro level stuff.
The blue book on this truck was $42 since the market normalized (early summer 23). Hopefully it gets back there and maybe more soon. The double cab option hurts the value
Toyota Corporation listen......I have been buying Toyota's for 40 years and loved every one. i hate mechanicing but do it well when it is needed. This is a main reason I love Toyota's! As of late my love for Toyota;s has been badly impacted by the V6 Turbo catastrophy still ongoing. I think you should replace all customers impacted from 2022-2024 with new 2025 simular models FREE of charge...IF the 2025 are defect free!...are tested and proven! What you as a Corporation do with these customers will determine whether I ever buy another Toyota!
@@bryan6036Toyota is still the fastest selling brand. Lexus and Toyota are still at the top of the list.. The Tundra issue was a hiccup that is getting remedied.
That mindset never makes sense to me lol. You are worried about an engine recall, that toyota just announced the remedy on, so you’re gonna head to a brand with known engine quality issues. Im scratching my head over here lol.
@@TundraDude34 if Toyota announced a remedy it's slow to get out. I haven't heard anything or anyone saying so. Imagine buying a Thundra and having the engine go just after the warranty expires! There's no prediction as to when the failure will happen. I work for Honda Manufacturing so I do have some knowledge on how things can happen and often it's the customer that are screwed. Always have been a Thundra fan but this is something you cannot be concern about.
I don’t mine lease. We lease my wife’s BMW. But we drive everywhere in my 1794 Limited Edition #716. I bought it on April 28 and I already have 8,000 miles. So I would be up a creek without a paddle
Why do you need to tung trdoffroad package? I've yet to see you offroad. So I'm just curious on why you waste money on that package? You can add the trd wheel package as a add on if that's what you like. On your lease topic. I currently lease and I will either buy my truck in March cause of getting a new motor, or I will lease another one. Lease is a good deal
I prefer the look of the off road package (black grille, black wheels, body color on limited etc). I also like the bilstein ride 👍🏼. Worth the extra cashola in my opinion.
I really don't want to stay with Toyota now. But I don't see anything that makes me want to trade. I am waiting for the Dodge RHO to come out. That might make me do the deal...
Unfortunately there won’t be any service departments with techs or time to take care of your service needs. With 102thousand engines to replace and forget body work at dealerships they will be busy painting all those scratched up trucks and putting all the broken plastic grills and covers on. Total disaster but Toyota is doing the correct thing..
I traded my 2018 tundra limited for the 2024 tundra platinum… I know some people might think I’m crazy but the interior and the black fabric liner on the roof was such a game changer. I was able to get 6000 off MSRP and they gave me 36K for my 2018 limited 4 x 4 Trd with 50k miles. Plus 1.9 apr loan. It was hard to turn down. Shout out to Toyota Carlsbad California. Although my trucks not recalled, it makes me feel a lot better that Toyota is going to give everyone new engines. I feel bad for anyone who has to deal with that, but at least Toyota backs their product like no other brand. 🤙
Never lease a vehicle. Bad idea. You usually do not build up any equity. It’s like paying rent. You have nothing when you move out or turn in your lease vehicle. Also purchase a vehicle. You should know that as long as you have been doing this. Put money down on a vehicle and finance it. You should have known you would be upside down on the Tundra when you bought it by paying sticker for it and leasing it. Not a good business decision. Looks like you will be stuck with it until end of lease unless you can get someone to take over your lease or buy out your lease. Good luck, and never lease another vehicle!!
I never wait until the lease ends. Its a way to keep the payment lower while getting the benefits of the write off. Worst case scenario, i stay in this truck until value catches up to worth and then trade out. Ive also leased vehicles where the value goes up, and when i trade, that positive equity becomes a decent down payment on the next. But to each, their own of course, i just prefer it this way. Have a great evening!
@@TundraDude34I’m about 1 year into my lease . Where are you at? It’s way too soon in the lease for me to trade out. Thinking I need another year. The trade in on these things is TERRIBLE.
I think you should do 12 month leases so you can get a new one every year… it would make sense because you are the tundra dude… If anybody else was going to get one brand new every single year, it would be you
Listen guys Toyota WAS good a while back but now it’s not the case anymore. Cheap interiors, poorly designed engines, weak transmissions, and Im sure that electric tailgate will not make it past 5 years without a major issue. Fanboys need to leave the brand name behind and look at the vehicle itself not the badge.
Ive certainly heard of people with problems but you have to remember, there are also folks out there problem free and happy. My 23 has been great so far. Eventually, the new generation will be where it needs to be. But this is still America, people can choose whichever brand they want 👍🏼🇺🇸
@@TundraDude34 I do hope you are correct but I seen turbo engines not last no way near the life expectancy of a larger normally aspirated engine. I personally purchased a 22 Frontier for its simplicity since I abuse it on my farm. Remember the old saying a candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
The new Tundra is trash! Uncomfortable seat, interior wind noise, cheap plastic all over in the interior, totally worthless rear bumper, tailgate shuts like a 1970s truck. Had mine for a month and gave it to my wife and got a new Silverado zr2 1500. I'm done with Toyota!
All you 5.7 people need to move on already... my god get over the fact they moved on from that old gutless motor... not to mention the rest of the truck was seriously dated and behind the times.
I knew what i was getting into going down to SR5. And to be honest, i really do like my 23, so if im in the truck for a while, Thats cool. I was just trying to strike while the deals were hot lol
$800-$1200 car payments is insane. I know everyone says “that’s the times where in” but we are at this point because people keep paying these stupid amounts. At this rate a person will always be upside down no matter what package or trim you buy. People need to let these trucks sit on Toyota lots for months and watch the tide turn.
I thought my $325 car payment was high 9 years ago. No more car payments for me going forward. I changed my mentality.
@@David.D3Warren Buffett drives an older accord last I heard. It’s just stupid to borrow money to buy these huge depreciating assets
If you're broke just say that. I have a 24 limited and i don't think my 1k payment is high. Maybe you should stop complaining about the price and increase your income to afford the things you want.
@@an237251there’s so much more things to spend a grand on a month besides a vehicle. My mortgage isn’t even that high. I’ll never pay $1000 a month for a vehicle that I can’t do the things I can do in a house. You could save that money for a rainy day fund. You never know what might happen. You might get sick and have to be off work for months or an accident does the same thing. You’re not smart.
@@jeanclaude7018 doubt it. My truck isn't even on the recall list. And if it does toyota came out and said they will be replacing all motors on the list.
I just bought a 2020 5.7 with 40k miles yesterday 😁
how much
@@dell7054 38,500 SR5 4x4 I watched it price decrease at the dealer from the original 45,500 down to that 38 500 over the past month
Absolutely love my 24 sr5.
Zero complaints. No road noise at all. Quality is excellent.
Same!
Same here
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Garbage truck if you can call it a truck 😂😂😂😂 more like a oversized Honda ridge line
@@Michael.j130 Toyota> everything else.
Keep working at it. I just traded my 2024 Limited Crewmax fully loaded. I just got the 2024 1794 Edition with TRD off road package for 69,000 from Principle Toyota in Memphis, Tn. I'm just waiting for it to come in.
@@torianowarren3684 congrats! Envious!
Great video Mark. It's hard overcoming that negative equity but you might find a dealer desperate enough to come closer to where you want to be. Good luck !
I just need a million view video and boom, all set 😁
5.7 owners: “Recall, what recall?”😎
I don’t know about a new recall on the 5.7 but I’ve been with Toyota for years and the first year of it in 2007 the engines were grenading sucking in valves and they replaced them. However memories are short in us humans
The times were in people should be thinking.. I could take half that 1200 car payment and put it into something that is making money... whatever that is for you, and use the other 600 for a used 2019 toyota bulletproof Tundra. I was working in Houston last week (all over the metro) saw some new Tundras sitting in front of the expensive yuppy tower homes near downtown. Saw lots of older model Tundras in the suburbs... Just a snapshot but very telling.
@jeffp5418 im heavy in the market. All safe, long term stuff, but ill be good in the long run 👍🏼
@@mikehughes8023 I recall how much I spent on gas driving 20k/yr. x 4 gen2 Tundras.
unfortunately insurance totalled my ‘15 bullet proof. Tundra. after caught in a flash flood and stuck for 3 days pulled my RV home from Utah to TX no major issues. it’s on youtube the recovery look up trail mator
2022+ Tundra just don't have the value of the 2021 and older Tundra.
Silver and wind chill are just beautiful on these trucks, Mark. Having said that, I'm in love with my 21' mag gray SR5!
I’m perfectly happy in my 21 tundra :) it’s 12k from being paid off and after that the mods will start haha truck only has 40k miles on it right now
Hi Mark! The 1794 in mbm/saddle brown are the best exterior/interior colors in my opinion as they compliment each other perfectly. Definitely the color combo that I would pick if I were in the market for a 3rd gen. 👍
At least Toyota is doing the right thing by replacing all of the engines in the recalled vehicles. I wish they kept the 5.7 though as it would’ve never had that problem in a million years!
It's called change... duh ... you see truck and car manufacturers make new motors and don't stay with a 20yr old design. The 5.7 is gutless and horrible mpg
@atg1338 , I do not buy a truck for mpg. If I was worried about mpg, I'd drive my wife's Honda Accord. 5.7 gutless?
@@TT-hv8bx Exactly. Trucks never were made for gas mileage to begin with. 5.7 is a bulletproof engine that has made a million miles before. They are guaranteed to make 250,000 miles minimum with maintenance. I don’t think these turbo engines will age well.
@@TT-hv8bx If you had a construction company you would be concerned about mpg. You are the typical ignorant i don't worry about mpg 🤡 and yes that 5.7 is gutless af. Had 3 of them so i should know. I've owned more truck then you,your friends and family combined son. Mpg might save me thousands in 1 yr alone.
Yeah I hate to tell you if you don’t properly clean a new 5.7 block during manufacturing it will self destruct as well.
First time toyota buyer. I really wanted a new tundra between the lack of deals and the recall issues I wound up with a 2021 sequoia nightshade. Very happy with it and impressed with the quality. I still look at tundra but will wait a few years for the dust to settle.
What's crazy is that 1 year ago I decided to stop by a dealership because I was curious, and I saw exactly your dream truck built down to spec. 2023 1794 Black on Saddle brown with TRD Off Road. Beautiful truck I wanted to take it home. Toyota World of Clinton, NJ.
I have the exact truck you want and I put bronze Rrw wheels with 35s and it’s a beautiful truck . Get complaints from everyone.
I’m with you. 1794 is my favorite trim. Smoked mesquite is what I like, but that black is super nice! Hope you get a nice discount and can make it happen
I love my 2023 Sequoia Captone.-pearl white. It’s got all the bells and whistles which I love😊. No issues with any of the recalls-all has been good.
Hey there! Does Frank still have the Pro Tundra?
I wish I could make a deal with a Tundra at one of my local dealerships. But Toyota did not even want to make a deal with me on a camry.
I’m so happy I kept my 2020 5.7 crew max TRD Limited 💯💯💯💯💯💯
I got LUCKY. In May I traded my 2022 Tundra DC not with TRD OR for 37. It was a week before the recall. So they have gone down drastically since.
Thank you Mark for being open with plans, we all back you up, keep bringing those videos, happy weekend
Thanks George!
When I decided to trade in my 2023 1794 for a new Limited Edition 1794 I knew I had to get a Midnight Black again to go with the blacked out chrome on the LE. I would have bought a Supersonic Red in a heartbeat if they had made it but of the 4 colors available Midnight Black was my choice and love it. Don't be afraid to do a nationwide search for your dream Toyota and drive a good distance to get it. Dealers are making deals now!
The deals are there, even around me. But my trade value and where i want to be as far as payment don’t work lol
Yes, I’ve always saved a lot for a big down payment when I buy a new vehicle but in your situation I understand it just doesn’t make sense to carry a balance from your old financing to your new truck. I know people do it but your smart to keep your old truck till you get that deal you can’t walk away from or makes sense for you!
Yes, Yes, and Yes, Mark. The 1794 trim with TRD Off-road package and color is the way I’d go - on the fence now, looking to pull the trigger with my 2019 Platinum for trade in
I’ve made the mistake of falling in love with the 1794 trd off road. Stupid decisions usually follow that 🤣
@@TundraDude34 😂 I hear you, Mark. However, if you can believe this - what attracts me most about the new generation Tundra is the night and day difference of the electronics and infotainment systems from that of the last generation. Yes, I love my 5.7 liter 8 cylinder reliability, no denying that. However, I could never get over just how piss poor my so-called “premium” JBL sound system is in comparison to the current generation premium sound system, and user interface. I actually still feel a little bit cheated by Toyota to this day - for my 2019 Platinum trim, and for the cost, I never really got over it. I’ve test driven 2023 and 2024 Tundras both with the big screen and premium audio, no comparison. The additional cost is justified (IMHO). Plus, I’ve always loved the 1794 interior, saddle brown as it reminds me of one of my F-150’s (King Ranch). Anyway, sorry for the rant, but perhaps you would consider making a video that focuses on these features and how they differ drastically from older generations and demonstrate why and how Toyota put so much effort in this type of upgrade. Thanks again for all you do!
Keep looking Mark, a deal will present itself that fits what you want eventually 💪🏼
0 percent financing here on the Tundra’s. 50 of them at my dealership but I think my 2021 1794 is here to stay 😅😅😅
Respect to all the V8 owners. But these 3rd gen 1794 TRDs if you can afford one are better! And with Toyota covering any possible engine issue. I dont feel like Ive lost
@jeanclaude7018 recalls like these are covered for free well past the toyota warranty, in some cases they don't expire due to federal regulations.
Limited is solid my only regret is I wish I had the pano
Next time 👍🏼
I’m buying my white on black 2024 Tundra TRD Pro on Saturday? Please let me know if you have any feedback before I pull the trigger. I’m so torn because of all of the previous horror stories on the 2022 and 2023 have those kinks been worked out for the 2024? Should I be worried?
Bought a practically brand new 21 tundra TRD pro with airbags on the back aftermarket wheels. this thing is insane. I bought it online site unseen for $52,210. No way I would want one of those new trucks.
Great video! Keep up the good work 🤙🏽
Love my ‘18 1794. Only issue is the short bed. I don’t like the chrome but I can change that when I can
Smoked Mesquite 1794 TRD Off-Road, Mark! You found one, so get it!!! I also like supersonic red.😁💕
There is a midnight black one coming into a local lot in late September. Thats the one im going to focus on 👍🏼
@@TundraDude34I’ve only had one black car, which was a 4Runner. It seemed that I’d wash it, then the dust would settle on it and it would look dirty. So I keep away from black ones.
I thought you leased your trucks, I guess I was wrong. For colors, the sharpest new tundra I’ve seen was a TRD 1794 in smoked mesquite with the cream interior. I thought it looked better than my wind chill 1794 LE
I do lease my trucks, i mentioned that in the video
Yeah, IF i were to buy one it would be fully loaded 1794 4x4. 65K? Nahh, thats like selling all my 400 share of GE for a truck that isn't as reliable.. I'm loving my 2019 1794 4x4 more everyday. She's about to hit 37,000 miles. Im saving for that new EV in 2026 but tempted to lease now
My trade-in value in 42798 and ( exactly what i paid in summer 2020) the range is 40665-44766..
From one Tundra dude who's constantly wanting a nicer Tundra to another my advice would be to keep your 23 and wait it out for the model year refresh. If you get a crew max now you are going to totally want the model year upgrade in a year and a half. I have wanted to pull the trigger on a platinum or trd pro but I am holding off until the model year refresh because I know I will want to trade in this current gen for that model year refresh. Don't do it Tundra dude don't do it!! Sit with the feelings and let it dissipate, it will dissipate. I do a daily meditation to resist the urge to trade mine in, take 30 deep breaths and feel the urge and let it dissipate, I think I can make it one and a half more years.
Hahaha excellent advice! I would only move if the deal was gnarly. I promise!
I’m sticking with my 2018 Seqouia TRD Sport, and may trade up to the 2021, 1794 Tundra fully loaded and will wait until the 2030 Hybrid Tundra’s kinks have been worked out.
Thinking about trading my 2017 4Runner in on a Tundra.
Hey Mark, dealers are not will to negotiate. With the incentives out, they don't want to move from those prices ; they are locked into $68k - $72k range for platinum TRD. A fair price for this trim would be $60k - $65k, that is still $15k more from last gen. Still looking for that deal, it may never happen.
Around me, dealers are very much looking to negotiate. Big big discounts, especially PA
I am absolutely happy that Toyota will give a crate engine to the ones affected by the recall.
What I don’t understand is why all truck period until the beginning of 2024 are not included. Per the Car Care Nut the part regarding the main bearing change sometimes in 2024.
What I am afraid is that many that are not included will eventually fail. And that to me is the main reason and like I have been saying all along that 22,23, and many 24 will forever loose their value. Cause normally there is no way many like yours are loosing the value so aggressively.
I traded in my 2023 1794 TRD off road for a 4Runner before the engine recall news and I’ve got almost 68k for mine barely loosing 2k, cause I got a deal when I bought it new. So there you go.
I will entertain looking again after the 2025 model year.
My sister just bought a 2024 trd off road crew max tundra in white she works for toyota
I would say the Lunar Rock with saddle interior is the best combo I think ..
Are there any updates coming for 2025? Do you see tow hooks will ever be available with a refresh?
No news on the 25 yet, but i don’t think there will be many big updates. Rumor has it 26 may be a refresh year
What would be the goal otd price on the limited specs you describe for you to make the move?
The goal is someone to take my 23 way closer to payoff and then heavily discount the 2024. The real hold back is the 23 value right now.
You may find it’s cheaper some time around September. It’s looking like fall interest rate cuts are probably back on again and it may make it more affordable. That being said 🤣 you want MY truck 🤣 I’ve done a bit of chrome deletes on mine and just finished installing AVS bug guard with the pro light bar and the AVS marker lights on the roof. Got some stares about the changes I did today from a tourist who got the Capstone and liked the mods I’ve done 😁
I have an early 24 tundra sr5 premium. Love it. Wish I had waited and got a de ad l
I’m good with my 2019 trd off road limited. Love my 5.7
I have an 2023 sr5 crewcab 4x4 in army green with 27000 miles, I just got offered 45k for it, I owe 43k , I live in San Antonio , it was on a lease deal for a 2024 fully loaded limited 4x4 hybrid with trd off-road package and trd lift, payment was going to be 840$ 40$ less than what I owe, I’ve never done a lease before, so I turned it down , to do more research on leases
Lease is the way to go.... 0% interest no money down get out of it in 3 yrs or buy it for less then if you owned it for 3 yrs
I prefer to buy and keep long term ,but that’s just me.☃️👍👍
When im looking at the stills of the dashboard, it looks like the steering wheel is off center to the right. Is it actually off center, or just the picture?
Just the picture
Deals on tundras will only last for so much longer, gotta get one now!
Could we ever get two+ videos of dealership walks a week?
Depends on the amount of inventory i find!
No way I would get upside down in a car these days. Markets are volatile. I can understand why some folks prefer lease deals, but to me it just seems like a sure fire way to lose money. You cannot develop any equity in the vehicle and you are so limited in what you can do about resale. Basically, you get locked into negotiating a trade in with the dealership. And, just like in Vegas, the house always wins.
Your never gonna get equity in a new vehicle and it's doesn't matter if you buy or lease because you can do whatever you want after day 1. A lease is no different then buying except you can probably get 0 % interest and you payment will be cheaper.
@@atg1338 Huh? I have a 2020 Tundra Pro that is paid for. It is worth ~$45-50K and practically what I paid for it. How many lease owners can say the same? I think leasing makes sense for car customers who want a new car every 2-3 years, but not for those of us who keep a truck for 10+ years.
@@telemarktumalo6978 who wants a 2020 tundra when it's basically a 2014. Old ass truck not even worth 30k .
@@atg1338 Who wants it? Well I do. That is why I bought it. I wanted it 4 years ago and still love it. Do a search for a 2020 TRD Pro in Army Green with 13,000 miles. I'm not saying that my truck is an investment. Unless we are buying a vintage show car, really no car is a good investment. Mine is a daily driver and should last me another 10+ years. Yes, the truck R&D is basically a 2007 design but you are dead wrong about it being worth $30K. Toyota has a knack for refining their designs over many years, making the later years in any platform the best of that version. The same thing that has happened with the '22-'23 recall, occurred in 2007 with the Tundra. I have the luxury of being patient and waiting a few years before purchasing. Will I consider a '25 or '26? Unlikely at this point, but I expect that by then, Toyota will have most of the bugs worked out of the new Gen.
I struck big time, not a tundra though. I may go back to a Tundra when they redesign the front end and improve quality control. Mark, you are totally right though, great time to score a deal. I bought a leftover 2023 402A Azure Gray Tremor this week. Found it in PA and it was delivered this morning. 73k I got it for 59k including shipping. Never thought I’d own a truck like this, TRD pro level stuff.
Congrats! Enjoy it and send pics
@@TundraDude34 I’ll email you a pic right now.
@@TundraDude34… just emailed you a pic and video.
That’s incredible dude!
@@Papolucho702 .. thanks man, I was casually looking for a truck, stumbled on it on auto trader and the incentives were too good to pass on.
Do you think the Blue Book will go back up when the recall fixes are going out?
The blue book on this truck was $42 since the market normalized (early summer 23). Hopefully it gets back there and maybe more soon. The double cab option hurts the value
Toyota Corporation listen......I have been buying Toyota's for 40 years and loved every one. i hate mechanicing but do it well when it is needed. This is a main reason I love Toyota's! As of late my love for Toyota;s has been badly impacted by the V6 Turbo catastrophy still ongoing. I think you should replace all customers impacted from 2022-2024 with new 2025 simular models FREE of charge...IF the 2025 are defect free!...are tested and proven! What you as a Corporation do with these customers will determine whether I ever buy another Toyota!
Not gonna happen. Toyota is already spending north of $3 billion to replace all the of recall tundras motors
@@TundraDude34 I know your right! I just hate seeing Toyota's reputation shot to pieces!
@@bryan6036Toyota is still the fastest selling brand. Lexus and Toyota are still at the top of the list.. The Tundra issue was a hiccup that is getting remedied.
Consider what the big 3 would do with a similar situation.
How is that even possible?😂 Given the fact that your monthly payment would skyrocket depending on the model you currently have…
Was hoping to buy a Thundra at the end of this year but it's not going to happen because of the ENGINE FAILURE! Thinking of GMC Denali now!
That mindset never makes sense to me lol. You are worried about an engine recall, that toyota just announced the remedy on, so you’re gonna head to a brand with known engine quality issues. Im scratching my head over here lol.
@@TundraDude34 if Toyota announced a remedy it's slow to get out. I haven't heard anything or anyone saying so. Imagine buying a Thundra and having the engine go just after the warranty expires! There's no prediction as to when the failure will happen. I work for Honda Manufacturing so I do have some knowledge on how things can happen and often it's the customer that are screwed. Always have been a Thundra fan but this is something you cannot be concern about.
@vinhhuynh1205 the remedy was announced on July 25th. Do a quick youtube search, its every where. All 100,000 engines will be replaced. Long block.
I don’t mine lease. We lease my wife’s BMW. But we drive everywhere in my 1794 Limited Edition #716. I bought it on April 28 and I already have 8,000 miles. So I would be up a creek without a paddle
Buying the 1794 LE makes complete sense. Thats a special, numbered truck. You keep that forever lol
@@TundraDude34 I’ll say this it will have high miles. lol. Already at 8500 miles in just 3 months.
Since it's a lease, how much time is left on it?
16 paid, 20 to go
Forget about the 3rd gens. Get the double cab 2nd gen. It will be worth it.
Why do you need to tung trdoffroad package? I've yet to see you offroad. So I'm just curious on why you waste money on that package? You can add the trd wheel package as a add on if that's what you like.
On your lease topic. I currently lease and I will either buy my truck in March cause of getting a new motor, or I will lease another one. Lease is a good deal
I prefer the look of the off road package (black grille, black wheels, body color on limited etc). I also like the bilstein ride 👍🏼. Worth the extra cashola in my opinion.
Did they fix the motor problem
Gee, I wonder why the offers are so low for your truck. It is almost like the dealers don’t want it. 😜
Lol, i mean they are fair offers as per the value…the value just sucks 🤣
I'd love a 2021 Sequoia with a 5.7 V8 engine right about now...
Buy and keep
I can't believe there are people out there pretending the new Tundras are nice trucks! Who is fooled by this?
Lol, just because you don’t like the new Tundra doesn’t mean others can’t. The sales numbers speak for themselves
I have a 2022 Hybrid TRD Off Road, lifted (TRD kit) with 35" K02s and a decked that I'm wanting to sell. Let me know if you want it!
I really don't want to stay with Toyota now.
But I don't see anything that makes me want to trade.
I am waiting for the Dodge RHO to come out. That might make me do the deal...
Go to Ventura Toyota. They have a 2024 Tundra platinum hybrid in white. 3" lift etc. 2k miles for 62k..
Were you negative in your TRD PRO?
I was not
That would be a really nice truck
They offered me 45K on my bare bones Limited 23'. Your SR5 has more options than my truck, I'm surprised they offered you so little.
Do u want me to dealer locate one of these vehicles for you in your area. I work for Toyota and have access to dealer daily
If you can find one at dealerships giving huge discounts, that would help 😁
Reports are coming in, lots of problems with the 24 tundras
Almost had a heart attack when you said 37-38-39 thousand for your 23 tundra.
Do you need medical attention?
@@TundraDude34 lol no when fell out of my chair the ground woke me up.
@michaelstewart9366 ok good 🤣
@@TundraDude34😂😂😂😂
You could temporarily become the TitanDude34 until all those have been sold.
No thanks!
Unfortunately there won’t be any service departments with techs or time to take care of your service needs. With 102thousand engines to replace and forget body work at dealerships they will be busy painting all those scratched up trucks and putting all the broken plastic grills and covers on. Total disaster but Toyota is doing the correct thing..
Thankfully its a long block replacement. Definitely easier on the dealerships and techs
Good luck
I traded my 2018 tundra limited for the 2024 tundra platinum… I know some people might think I’m crazy but the interior and the black fabric liner on the roof was such a game changer.
I was able to get 6000 off MSRP and they gave me 36K for my 2018 limited 4 x 4 Trd with 50k miles. Plus 1.9 apr loan. It was hard to turn down. Shout out to Toyota Carlsbad California.
Although my trucks not recalled, it makes me feel a lot better that Toyota is going to give everyone new engines. I feel bad for anyone who has to deal with that, but at least Toyota backs their product like no other brand. 🤙
They don’t offer a blackout edition?
Ive seen a “blackout edition” offered in certain regions, but not a national package
Am I the only person alive that wants a double cab SR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Absolutely not
Your old 2nd Gen, worth more than your new one! 😅
Oh for sure! The 2nd gen values are up plus its a TRD Pro. Nothings holds value like a pro
Never lease a vehicle. Bad idea. You usually do not build up any equity. It’s like paying rent. You have nothing when you move out or turn in your lease vehicle. Also purchase a vehicle. You should know that as long as you have been doing this. Put money down on a vehicle and finance it.
You should have known you would be upside down on the Tundra when you bought it by paying sticker for it and leasing it. Not a good business decision. Looks like you will be stuck with it until end of lease unless you can get someone to take over your lease or buy out your lease. Good luck, and never lease another vehicle!!
I never wait until the lease ends. Its a way to keep the payment lower while getting the benefits of the write off. Worst case scenario, i stay in this truck until value catches up to worth and then trade out. Ive also leased vehicles where the value goes up, and when i trade, that positive equity becomes a decent down payment on the next. But to each, their own of course, i just prefer it this way. Have a great evening!
@@TundraDude34I’m about 1 year into my lease . Where are you at? It’s way too soon in the lease for me to trade out. Thinking I need another year. The trade in on these things is TERRIBLE.
I think you should do 12 month leases so you can get a new one every year… it would make sense because you are the tundra dude… If anybody else was going to get one brand new every single year, it would be you
The payment would be astronomical lol
@@TundraDude34 If all your subscribers gave at least 50 cents a year you'd be good to go! Let's do this!
The more you watch and interact with the videos, the more i get paid to buy a truck 🤣
Love the channel. Still cant stop looking at my 24 trd sport all blacked out trd package. @@TundraDude34
Why do you like leading?
Because no one remembers who finishes second 😁
You need to get your wife the new LC or upcoming 4R lol
Her Highlander is very close to positive equity, and then we will figure out whats next for her. Would love the Cruiser but probably the 4runner
Get in Texas
Listen guys Toyota WAS good a while back but now it’s not the case anymore. Cheap interiors, poorly designed engines, weak transmissions, and Im sure that electric tailgate will not make it past 5 years without a major issue. Fanboys need to leave the brand name behind and look at the vehicle itself not the badge.
Ive certainly heard of people with problems but you have to remember, there are also folks out there problem free and happy. My 23 has been great so far.
Eventually, the new generation will be where it needs to be. But this is still America, people can choose whichever brand they want 👍🏼🇺🇸
@@TundraDude34 I do hope you are correct but I seen turbo engines not last no way near the life expectancy of a larger normally aspirated engine. I personally purchased a 22 Frontier for its simplicity since I abuse it on my farm. Remember the old saying a candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
You aren’t wrong! And looking at your profile icon, it looks like you served in the military. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY 🇺🇸
You’d be better off leasing
Yeah, i always lease
Economics 101
If one can’t afford 69k
One can’t afford 63k
The new Tundra is trash! Uncomfortable seat, interior wind noise, cheap plastic all over in the interior, totally worthless rear bumper, tailgate shuts like a 1970s truck. Had mine for a month and gave it to my wife and got a new Silverado zr2 1500. I'm done with Toyota!
Please stop rocking back and forth 🙏😂
Hahah you gonna hurl?
My 2021 sport has greater trade value than yours
Very nice!
You should get a 20, 21 to have
Ive been looking for a 2nd gen to add to the channel, but right now they are just too expensive. Demand drove the prices way up
Oh yes!! I have a 2020 platnium and I've had a couple of offers of 52k.. I only have 30k miles.
All you 5.7 people need to move on already... my god get over the fact they moved on from that old gutless motor... not to mention the rest of the truck was seriously dated and behind the times.
Dude, you gambled and lost. You need to move on in life. Noot your fault. Who expected Toyota to mess up so badly. Its life,.
I knew what i was getting into going down to SR5. And to be honest, i really do like my 23, so if im in the truck for a while, Thats cool. I was just trying to strike while the deals were hot lol
Nobody should by a Tundra right now.
These Tundra's are not holding value
Since my motor blew up I've been looking to get out of it.
My 2023 Tundra has lost $16k
This is based on KBB
Good luck
Values are gone with these gen 3 Tundra's