Grace, the person where you redeem the marks of Grace, says specifically they are "her" marks. She is next to the thieves guild so my headcanon is that she is actually a thief that breaks into places to do freestyle parkourrunning illegally and than leaves marks for other freerunners.
the gloves went from cool for amethyst to essentially required for progression. unfortunate that gold and silver weren't really touched, i hope that jagex doesn't leave them alone forever.
I actually like that the regular mining buffs are tied to the gloves, actually gives you a good reason to get the gloves and it doesn't impact f2p mining that way either.
Though it would be nice if each upgrade and outfit had multiple ways to get it. And instanced mining between players would be great so multiple people could mine the same rock
@@zachariahhowell4342facts 2.5% xp is so insignificant. I absolutely love any skilling outfits that have a unique to the skill and interesting effect like the smith's outfit or the thieving outfit.
When you said you had problems with the mining update, I was so ready to disagree... But you were so right, the difference with or without gloves is unhinged!
Currently this feels like they're pushing the progression to be mlm till level 60, you can do drop iron pre-gloves or stars till level 60 as well. Once you're 60 you do iron in mining guild till gloves, and then you have options to go back to mlm, granite, stars, more iron, and tbd about volc mine or blast mining being worth or not. I think the take that regular ore rocks pre-gloves should be buffed is an interesting one. Someone else mentioned bots as a reason for being cautious to buff pre-glove mining, that gloves act as an arbitrary item lock. The price of ores would likely take a massive hit, most notably PvM bossing loot tables. I remember TOA launch absolutely tanked the price of ranarr/snap/torstol seeds.
i really hope they come up with a solution that allows brimhaven to give ticket on first pillar but not enable hopping / teleporting out. just add an internal cooldown that gets reset if you world hop or something. Its so nice to not feel like you can't take a break / afk / go do a herb and bird run while doing Brimhaven
i really really hope they take your advice on mining. make ores work like this and then we can balance around that, and make the gloves improve that rather than "create" that. I also REALLY hope they just take the time to fix F key spam methods so that "footpedal" skilling goes away and we can keep these buffs feeling good, rather than having to nerf the buff because people can exploit an unintended single camera position spam click method only enabled by random camera movement removal and UI moving.
I personally don't agree with your assessment of mining rates too. Granite being high rate is good, because its a useless output. So the balance factor is exactly that, you get nothing but XP. Sandstone should definitelyb e lower as its essentially crafting banking for irons. But 3t4g exists, and is 125k/hr. So granite is already king. I think "casual" granite mining being 90k/hr at 99 is *fine*. 100k is probably a bit too much.
brim haven is low-key really good, I get 64k exp while focusing , and get 54k exp when alching, but a huge part of it is the pirate hook sells on the ge, its over 500k gp per hour when you get it, then you can make 300-400k alching on top of that, so were talking 54k agility exp 54k-58k magic exp with 800k-900k gp per hour , for someone like me who's only been playing for over a month this exp is competitive and the gp is a massive benefit to get while skilling, its just free gold for me while leveling, 2 hours a day is getting me +200k total exp and +1.6mil gp, im at a point though where dont want to do magic with agility but I cant afford to take a loss on darts , im hoping by the time im 92 for hollowed sepulcher I have a good gp stash and can just do darts with hollowed sepulcher which will be better then alching in there anyways
Hey bro Don’t know if you’ll see this but was talking about you to a mate and he told me you popped off on your YT and twitch bro happy as to see you killing it man Don’t know if you remember but when you were playing hebox we used to talk heaps we met at wyverns my mains name was Acidtab and alt was acid vials If you haven’t cleared your friends out on your main I’ll probably still be on there as dr 7 Just happy to see you smashing it dude you told me about speed running to max years ago for content and you’ve gotten to where you are now man love that for ya keep killing it big dawg
thank you bro, yeah i remember that actually quite well at wyverns. simpler times man :) hope you are doing well too! (i still have you on the FL but i dont really play the main anymore + private off)
Agreed. Hopping skilling is cringe. Mining gloves should work everywhere. While we are at it the Culinaromancer's Chest store should be instanced per player as well. Why do I have to world hop and compete against other irons that are buying out all the worlds too? It's just needlessly tedious, either make the shop instanced per player or make the stock infinite wtf are we doing with all this competitive bullshit? All it does is diminish my experience as a real player and benefits bots that day in and day out all they do is world hop and buy these stores out. Jagex has a long ways to go to fix these huge issues with the game but instead they are just shitting out new continents and content instead of addressing these more important issues.
they are p nice yes! would be cool to have some short cutscene play for some of them and extend the time a little bit. 2t for a giga shortcut is strange
Arcane said he dropped it because he couldn't figure out a way to make a shortcut that crosses a map load line without just teleporting you to the other side, but they still want to add it eventually
@@heboxjonge They choose not to because they'd lose millions and 1/4th the player base though. Instead of fixing it, they just re-name or re-brand the game every 10 years sadly.
Dear jagex. Please stop making changes to cater to a group of new and loud players that doesn't actually like the game. The same shit happened in world of Warcraft, where many small changes alienated the core veteran player base over time. Eventually, the new players that doesn't like the game at its core will leave anyways, and the game will be left dead and unrecognizable.
It's been like this for the past 5 years and now everyone is finally reaping what Jagex has been sowing. Forever changing polling to force sailing to pass is what finally drove me away.
Imo jagex is moving too fast just to make things "better" without considering if its actually necessary to change things. I feel like a bit of suboptimal game design is forgivable because some flaws are what make OSRS feel like OSRS. But then again, we are all playing with 3rd party clients with menu swaps and tile markers and custom loot beams and cannonball skins so it really isn't the same after all
I do like mlm is like 65 to 70k now if you lose minimal amount of ticks, new hopper and fally diary extra runite xp. Xp scaling and low afk time better vein timers, good Slayer 2 pts for a task is insulting even at low lvl, before you can block or skip youll be at another master Agi seems good, fix brim As for the mining gloves.. idk i like it, maybe a bit too strong but still not the best, which is how ao far everything gets fixed so overall yeah some awk stuff but good update iguess
@@heboxjonge Would you ideally want the gloves effect to be moved into the base mining skill so that you can mine a rock multiple times before it depletes, scaling with level, and have the gloves as an extension of that?
Can they stop giving us the 2nd EOC and give us a copy of the 2007 version of the game, never update it again, call it Oldschool Classic and let us enjoy the Old we're supposed to have?
Wow, great insight. Barely being able to hear you mumble through patch notes without testing them sure is useful. How about you actually have something worth saying next time?
Grace, the person where you redeem the marks of Grace, says specifically they are "her" marks. She is next to the thieves guild so my headcanon is that she is actually a thief that breaks into places to do freestyle parkourrunning illegally and than leaves marks for other freerunners.
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This would make an awesome quest in draynor village to introduce agility and explain MOG
Mark is her dog
marks her licks so when people bring them to her she knows they are worthy
@@Jamsterman25that’s an awesome idea!
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the gloves went from cool for amethyst to essentially required for progression. unfortunate that gold and silver weren't really touched, i hope that jagex doesn't leave them alone forever.
I actually like that the regular mining buffs are tied to the gloves, actually gives you a good reason to get the gloves and it doesn't impact f2p mining that way either.
I also like having meaningful upgrades/gear unlocks within each skill. Skilling outfits and 2.5% is so marginal
Though it would be nice if each upgrade and outfit had multiple ways to get it. And instanced mining between players would be great so multiple people could mine the same rock
@@zachariahhowell4342facts 2.5% xp is so insignificant. I absolutely love any skilling outfits that have a unique to the skill and interesting effect like the smith's outfit or the thieving outfit.
When you said you had problems with the mining update, I was so ready to disagree... But you were so right, the difference with or without gloves is unhinged!
Every time i see you upload one of these im like: OOOH GOD here we go...
Excuse me, let's keep quiet about the cranes thing.
Shhhhhhhhh
Thanks for this mate. I was curious as to your thoughts
penile dysfunction runs in my family
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Currently this feels like they're pushing the progression to be mlm till level 60, you can do drop iron pre-gloves or stars till level 60 as well. Once you're 60 you do iron in mining guild till gloves, and then you have options to go back to mlm, granite, stars, more iron, and tbd about volc mine or blast mining being worth or not.
I think the take that regular ore rocks pre-gloves should be buffed is an interesting one. Someone else mentioned bots as a reason for being cautious to buff pre-glove mining, that gloves act as an arbitrary item lock. The price of ores would likely take a massive hit, most notably PvM bossing loot tables. I remember TOA launch absolutely tanked the price of ranarr/snap/torstol seeds.
Love the facecam man good addition
Chest looking big king, ngl, Keep it up in gym
I would love to have a mining cape rework as well...
i really hope they come up with a solution that allows brimhaven to give ticket on first pillar but not enable hopping / teleporting out. just add an internal cooldown that gets reset if you world hop or something.
Its so nice to not feel like you can't take a break / afk / go do a herb and bird run while doing Brimhaven
i really really hope they take your advice on mining. make ores work like this and then we can balance around that, and make the gloves improve that rather than "create" that. I also REALLY hope they just take the time to fix F key spam methods so that "footpedal" skilling goes away and we can keep these buffs feeling good, rather than having to nerf the buff because people can exploit an unintended single camera position spam click method only enabled by random camera movement removal and UI moving.
I personally don't agree with your assessment of mining rates too. Granite being high rate is good, because its a useless output. So the balance factor is exactly that, you get nothing but XP.
Sandstone should definitelyb e lower as its essentially crafting banking for irons.
But 3t4g exists, and is 125k/hr. So granite is already king. I think "casual" granite mining being 90k/hr at 99 is *fine*. 100k is probably a bit too much.
So what you're telling me is to abuse Zalcano this week... got it 👌
You never said you were this handsome!
WHERES MY UNIDENTIFIED MINERALS
brim haven is low-key really good, I get 64k exp while focusing , and get 54k exp when alching, but a huge part of it is the pirate hook sells on the ge, its over 500k gp per hour when you get it, then you can make 300-400k alching on top of that, so were talking 54k agility exp 54k-58k magic exp with 800k-900k gp per hour , for someone like me who's only been playing for over a month this exp is competitive and the gp is a massive benefit to get while skilling, its just free gold for me while leveling, 2 hours a day is getting me +200k total exp and +1.6mil gp, im at a point though where dont want to do magic with agility but I cant afford to take a loss on darts , im hoping by the time im 92 for hollowed sepulcher I have a good gp stash and can just do darts with hollowed sepulcher which will be better then alching in there anyways
Hey bro
Don’t know if you’ll see this but was talking about you to a mate and he told me you popped off on your YT and twitch bro happy as to see you killing it man
Don’t know if you remember but when you were playing hebox we used to talk heaps we met at wyverns my mains name was Acidtab and alt was acid vials
If you haven’t cleared your friends out on your main I’ll probably still be on there as dr 7
Just happy to see you smashing it dude you told me about speed running to max years ago for content and you’ve gotten to where you are now man love that for ya keep killing it big dawg
thank you bro, yeah i remember that actually quite well at wyverns. simpler times man :) hope you are doing well too! (i still have you on the FL but i dont really play the main anymore + private off)
@@heboxjonge fuck yeah man I’ll keep coming into twitch chat while I’m playing at night and shit
That’s mad man I’ll be in touch !
Agreed. Hopping skilling is cringe. Mining gloves should work everywhere. While we are at it the Culinaromancer's Chest store should be instanced per player as well. Why do I have to world hop and compete against other irons that are buying out all the worlds too? It's just needlessly tedious, either make the shop instanced per player or make the stock infinite wtf are we doing with all this competitive bullshit? All it does is diminish my experience as a real player and benefits bots that day in and day out all they do is world hop and buy these stores out. Jagex has a long ways to go to fix these huge issues with the game but instead they are just shitting out new continents and content instead of addressing these more important issues.
new agility shortcuts are great imo
they are p nice yes! would be cool to have some short cutscene play for some of them and extend the time a little bit. 2t for a giga shortcut is strange
@@heboxjongedont let saeder hear you say that
@@heboxjonge 1t would be better :p
so you question how Grace puts her marks on the course, but "instanced" mining in an open world game is okay?
Good feedback, I agree with it
They forgot the zipline to drift net.,
Arcane said he dropped it because he couldn't figure out a way to make a shortcut that crosses a map load line without just teleporting you to the other side, but they still want to add it eventually
They fixed Brimhaven but yeah the method you mentioned with world hopping is OP now
EDIT: Nvm they just hotfixed it
You are very handsome hope you are having a great day.
thank you :) you too
YES! Why is there not just a forestry mechanic for ore rocks as well. Makes no sense that they have to deplete after one ore all the time.
I agree with mining, but how would you solve the problem of having 3k bots mining the same runite ore?
get better bot detection imo
@@heboxjonge They choose not to because they'd lose millions and 1/4th the player base though. Instead of fixing it, they just re-name or re-brand the game every 10 years sadly.
You're not considering bots like they are. If you think about locks behind arbitrary items, for bot prevention, it makes sense
Bots were doing the coliseum on day 3 getting the gloves won't slow them down
@@jimmy13morrison yeah but if they leave money makers and good training methods open to new accounts, they can be suicided in the thousands
Mining and smithing rework on RS3 was unironically the best update to mining ever done.
Jagex should get rid of the thing where you have to do 5 slayer tasks to get points at all, that makes no sense.
I like the Slayer changes, besides the Fever Spiders being the richest mobs in the game somehow
Dear jagex.
Please stop making changes to cater to a group of new and loud players that doesn't actually like the game.
The same shit happened in world of Warcraft, where many small changes alienated the core veteran player base over time. Eventually, the new players that doesn't like the game at its core will leave anyways, and the game will be left dead and unrecognizable.
It's been like this for the past 5 years and now everyone is finally reaping what Jagex has been sowing. Forever changing polling to force sailing to pass is what finally drove me away.
Such great insight… thanks 🙏
Glazing 😂
@@LimpurtFan6969 like a dunkin donut bro 💪🏽
they got rid of gloves working on granite and sandstone in a hotfix today
So that's why it stopped working LOL
Imo jagex is moving too fast just to make things "better" without considering if its actually necessary to change things. I feel like a bit of suboptimal game design is forgivable because some flaws are what make OSRS feel like OSRS.
But then again, we are all playing with 3rd party clients with menu swaps and tile markers and custom loot beams and cannonball skins so it really isn't the same after all
I do like mlm is like 65 to 70k now if you lose minimal amount of ticks, new hopper and fally diary extra runite xp. Xp scaling and low afk time better vein timers, good
Slayer 2 pts for a task is insulting even at low lvl, before you can block or skip youll be at another master
Agi seems good, fix brim
As for the mining gloves.. idk i like it, maybe a bit too strong but still not the best, which is how ao far everything gets fixed so overall yeah some awk stuff but good update iguess
what the mining gloves do is good for mining, it just shouldnt be only from the gloves lmao.
@@heboxjonge ya pretty much:p
@@heboxjonge Would you ideally want the gloves effect to be moved into the base mining skill so that you can mine a rock multiple times before it depletes, scaling with level, and have the gloves as an extension of that?
@@astrosurfer yes, something along the lines of that. just keep granite and sandstone as is and make mining coal, silver, gold, mithril and addy great
hallowed sepulcher xp/hr still way too low for the effort #change my mind
Did you forget it gives great loot AS WELL or?
I think the gloves help isolate the buffs from f2p bots
He's wish is granted Sandstone and Granite are now nerfed
Instanced rocks would probably make the game come to a halt from performance issues
Looking yoked dude, gz
Granite being 100k an hour like that is good.
it got fixed already :D
The mining changes might be tied to the gloves cause f2p autists might throw a fit if mining changes for them
shocker the 200m community hates updates that make the game better for reg players lol
didnt watch the vid
@@heboxjonge oh i did. the disclaimer in the last minute directly contradicts all of your complaints the rest of the video
@@xxWonderTwimsxx no idea what ur referring to here?
Jagex skilling updates are disguised PvM updates. They’re for the people who don’t want to skill 😩
100%
When pvm is the main fun of the game and they want people to be able to reach their pvm content 🤯
Make mining great again!
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Can they stop giving us the 2nd EOC and give us a copy of the 2007 version of the game, never update it again, call it Oldschool Classic and let us enjoy the Old we're supposed to have?
autumn elegy wannabe crying about skills and xp rates GUESS WHAT HE BROKE HIS WRISTS AND CANT EVEN PLAY ANYMORE ISNT THAT ENOUGH FOR YOU?
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peepowaiting for new video
Jagex just does not math, awful nubs and botters
any1 else foot pedaling granite for 100k/hr rn?
no, and neither are you because it got hotfixed ;p
common jagex L
u mean W
@@ZUNKEN123 id call it a common jagex moment
Cringe theyre ruining mining
? Complaining that a short cut is to quick is wild
Jagex showing their incompetence yet again.
amethyst was fine the way it was :(
Make mining like in rs3
Yea your right.. but then again fuck bota get gloves lol.
And he aint fat , his voice sounded big.
look another elitist hating on casual and normal players who didnt see this coming..
Cry
didnt watch the video victim
Wow, great insight. Barely being able to hear you mumble through patch notes without testing them sure is useful. How about you actually have something worth saying next time?