How the FANTASTIC FOUR Can Join the MCU After DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness featured many cameos and crossovers fans have been waiting to see. Not only do we get our first confirmed mutant in the MCU, with Professor Charles Xavier--but fans finally got their fan-casting wish, seeing John Krazinski play Mister Fantastic, leader of the Fantastic Four. A Fantastic Four movie is coming to the MCU--soon. But who will Marvel's first family enter the Marvel Cinematic Universe? We have some thoughts.
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The fantastic 4 are finally in the MCU… well sort of. John Krasinski is our Mister Fantastic, and that’s a fan casting dream come true. Which quickly turned into a nightmare, after Wanda shredded Reed into spaghetti.
But Marvel studios is working on a Fantastic 4 movie, so Krasinski will probably return as mister fantastic very soon. And I assume that it’s a pakedge deal, so Emily Blunt will join him as Sue Storm.
So we got to talk about how the Fantastic 4 will be introduced, now that we met a version of Reed from another universe.
Multiverse of Madness gave us some hints on what we can expect from the Fantastic 4, and how they will be introduced. And with so much happening with the multiverse, that’s how the fantastic 4 could fit into the larger scale of the MCU. And probably play a key role in the years to come.
But before we get to the MCU’s Fantastic 4 movie, let’s first explore the mister fantastic we got in multiverse of madness.
Earth-838’s Reed Richards is described as the smartest man alive. And that’s what he is in the comics. Reed is the most intelligent person on the planet. And he also has his signature stretchy limbs.
He uses a teleportation device to make his grand entrance in the Illuminati chamber. A teleporter that kinda reminds of the time traveling portals the TVA uses. And is it just me or does his grand entrance kinda feels like a video game’s character's entrance?
Also, Reed is probably the one who built the Ultron bots. He’s the smartest man alive, so that’s why in this universe’s Ultron didn’t turn into a murder-bot, and instead the peace-keeping-AI he was meant to be. So this confirms that Reed is a hell of a lot smarter than Tony.
When Mordo introduces Reed as a member of the Fantastic 4, Stephen jokingly asks “didn’t you guys chart in the 60’s”. And this could be a lot… maybe.
This joke is a wink to fans, because the Fantastic 4 made their comics debut in 1961.
But this remark is also in reference to a fan theory that garnered a lot of steam recently. This theory is that the Fantastic 4 will come from the 60’s. With the speculation that they were stuck somewhere in space or the quantum realm or some other place for the last 60 years.
And this is all mostly based on the ideas of Peyton Reed, who was developing a Fantastic 4 movie in early 2000’s. Reed, by the way, is the director of the Ant-Man movies. His dream project was a Fantastic 4 movie that is set in the 60’s. He pitched it, and instead we got this.
So I guess you could speculate that Stephen’s remark about the 60’s is in reference to that. Because you can make the connection between the word “chart” and charting a course….maybe on a spaceship that goes to space.
Well it’s that or it’s just a clever Easter-egg to the Fantastic four music band. Who’s song “The Whole World is a Stage” made it to the Billboard charts in the 60’s. And yeah that’s a real thing.
And remember, Stephen is a music aficionado. So I guess it’s best to not put too much stock into this 60’s remark. Funny how fans jump to conclusions so fast just with a few key words.
The 60’s direction sounds like it could be interesting, because it’s a previously unexplored era. And maybe it could play into the idea that the Fantastic 4 are Marvel’s first family. So in the MCU they will be the first real superhero team, pre-dating the Avengers.
But I got to level with you, I’m not sure if I want to see that in the MCU.
Marvel already has a few out-of-time characters: Steve Rogers, Bucky, Janet van Dyne and Carol Danvers. So it’s not such a fresh take anymore. Honestly, the whole 60’s thing just feels too much like an unnecessary gimmick.
And yeah, I get it, there is something really compelling about doing a time period movie with the Fantastic 4. But I also think that fans gravitated toward this idea for the same reasons why people keep fan casting John Krasinski and Emily Blunt for Reed and Sue. 
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Who do you want to play the Fantastic Four?
Ur mom
EMILY BLUNT as invisible woman
Bryan Cranston as doom
Sue Storm (her wife), Johnny Storm (idk), The Thing (Michael Chiklis aka Origin F4) 😄😄👍
If not Emily Blunt as Sue Storm then Alice Eve or Bryce Dallas Howard as Sue Storm. Dash Mihok (Ray Donovan) as Ben Grimm. Tanner Buchanan (Cobra Kai) as Johnny Storm. And Cillian Murphy as Doctor Doom.
Omg Brian Cranston as Dr. Doom would be phenomenal.
I think placing them "out of time" is the only way it'll make sense. We don't WANT to see yet another FF origin story... just like the X-Men. I just want them to already be fleshed out... which they already are from past movies. Unfortunately, the Fantastic Four would need to be established in the past and reintroduced in the present. Janet, the OG Wasp, could be the way we find them because I do think Dr Strange will go LOOKING for Reed Richards thinking there should be one in this universe - only to find out they went missing in the 60s... enter the Ant-Man squad. They'll find them in the Quantum Realm and bring them home.
Agreed, please no origin movie
Agreed! Also, since Kang is going to be in the Ant-Man movie, they could say that he imprisoned the Fantastic Four in the realm because they would become a threat to him later. But he doesn't kill them because this version of Kang assumes that if Reed and Sue dies, he would no longer exist. As for the X-Men. They could introduce them the same way in the comics. Where Professor X is using his telepathy and resources to keep mutants a secret. Until a huge event happens that he decideds to no longer do it
I think it will be even simpler than that. They will bring the Fantastic 4 into Earth-616 in Secret Wars, along with others like the X-Men characters. And they will be here permanently by the end.
@@JRF32185 Yeah, that's what I think they'll end up doing - which I actually wouldn't mind, at least we won't have to go thru another origin story plot. But dangit I still need to know why there are no mutants in 616.
@@mageeaaron2624 THIS is why I feel the way I do. They have everything already established. Janet living in the Quantum Realm (and evolving), the ease of getting there, the dome city, Kang's announcement in AntMan3, FF movie in development, Reed Richards in DS2:MOM (and using Kang tech)... They just gotta get the story right so that it all makes sense. Hell... Pym could be the one Doctor Strange ends up speaking to because he was the OG AntMan from their time.
I don't understand at ALL how people could hate John as Reed!! And how can you judge his whole 5mins of screen time. He looked pretty damn great and would love to see him play with the roll more. More so with him also directing
All people who have played Reed Richards have looked accurate. The only problem I'm seeing with him is those idiotic additional black squares on his suit. Also where are you hearing any of this, the internet?
IKR The Krasinskis both being in F4 would be Epic
From what I’ve seen, most are fine with the casting but HATE the writing of Reed Richards’ character. People sarcastically say that Krazinski’s Reed is the most r*tarded incarnation of Mr. Fantastic in the entire multiverse.
@@UndertakerU2ber I agree hon. The script is imperative.
Yes he fits the part by looks but that reed being the smartest man in the world. That universe must have been filled with idiots
I'm really liking the theory where Defender Strange was actually the Dr Strange from the Raimiverse
Lmaooo
Tbh that is a dope theory cause I was wondering why he didn’t reference the Spider-Man 2 line at all
I want a Dr. Doom Disney+ show that explores his backstory. He has such a rich story, I think it would be great to see him exploring Earth and seeking knowledge and power to build him up as a dark parallel to Reed. Plus it would be cool to see a major and reoccurring villain built up in the MCU the same way the heroes are
Yes dude Dr.Doom is my top 3 favorite characters in marvel
These are the Disney+ shows we need.
I think it could be interesting if the Fantastic Four was set in the early 2000’s so they can be the first team without being out of time. They can be stuck in space or somewhere else.
Reed richards is funding his search with a gofundme, with various... stretch goals!
I always thought that the fantastic four didnt get snapped and reed and tony even knowing each other. Reed could even visit and congratulate Tony and Pepper about Morgan, before he announces that him and the rest are going to be in space for awhile
yeah like they can be stuck in a quantum realm.
@@nioxic77 - I wish I could post that gif of Orson Welles clapping.
@@markwootson5550 That's a good idea! Ppl are completely overlooking why Kang is appearing in Ant-man so I'm glad someone's brining it up.
It would be cool if Richards helps vision regain his old self- i mean, all he has to do is reintegrate a mind stone from the offices where Loki is temping..
White Vision already knows his history he just has no emotional connection to it. I think it would be more interesting if he rediscovers that as time goes on naturally without any Infinity Stone shenanigans.
@@DoubleO88 that’s a good point
Vision Quest
Prediction: Black Panther 2 will have an end credit cameo by Dr. Doom.
No thanks
@@bmla88 The place where Steven Wakes up in Moon Knight is implied to be Latveria and the Word Von D. make a cameo in the cupcake truck
@@matthewboyd68 it’s already been confirmed that it’s not doom
Still wouldn't watch it.
@@matthewboyd68 No Like Doom would let that cult in his country. He would have had Harrow fed to his lion.
I think the idea would work better if they were just ordinary Astronauts before they disappeared. Their Experimental StarkTech spaceship got sucked through a wormhole during which they get exposed to gamma radiation getting there powers, and when they pop out on the other side they have an adventure with like the Scrulls or something (maybe teasing Super Scrull in the post credit scene who is the baddie in part 3; obviously Dr. Doom will be the baddie in part 2) then find a portal back to earth only to discover that several decades have passed. Less Lost in Space and more Buck Rogers.
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Gotta have Surfer and Galactus down the line…tho maybe that’s an Avenger level threat
I think Krazinski being Reed Richards in MOM was a one and done, but I can see him writing or directing for sure. I also think Strange's line "Didn't you guys chart in the 60s?" is more than just a small or insignificant line. And it's going to be how the F4 end up being in the MCU. Also explains their absence from the MCU. Or it's just that band thing?
I hope you are right. I just don't see or want him or his wife in the movie or anything to do with the film . I just don't buy him as R.R.
Hopefully I'm not the only one that feels this way
thats where Ive gone F4 need to be a 60s period movie
I think Krasinski will come back and I hope he does as there is gonna be a Fantastic 4 movie
most likely a band thing. Strange was poking fun at all of the illumanti's names as they were being called out. (blackagar boltagar and stephen's pig latin retort)
@@marx3379 Thats what the writers were going for but it makes a great explanation for why they are just showing up and makes the movie easy to do. just tell the original origin story from the 60s. Fits the accuracy thing theyve been going for more in this phase and for once their complete lack of interaction with other heros in their solo would make some sense too
Based on what you’ve said; a Fantastic Four Disney+ show would be the way to do it. From how you talk about it, the Fantastic Four aren’t or shouldn’t be too action oriented (which makes sense considering the powers, so I don’t know that a movie makes that much sense.
yeah but marvel knows that FF are a household name and their 1st MCU outing being a show would not be good financially
@@suisui7481 Are they still going? I pretty much associate TFF with boomers and the older comic book crowd. Even when I was a kid I found them to be the most boring super heroes I could choose from.
@@pabloquijadasalazar7507 ok so what happened is when Sony started making fantastic four movies, marvel writers basically had the FF family with the future foundation go into the negative zone and like explore other universes and basically they vanished from the comics for a long while, then in 2018 they came back in an epic return. Also the FF are very imp for a lot of the huge plots and even smaller ones especially with the evil reed richards and so. do try to read them again and see if you resonate more with them
The FF started the Marvel Age of comics, and laid the foundation for so much. Those characters and their stories, if done correctly, are phenomenal. The Kirby/ Stan Lee and John Byrne runs of their comics were incredible. They were hardly BORING! They just weren't given the proper treatment by Fox. Hopefully the MCU finally gets them done fantastically. Pun intended.
I really want Doom to be a stand alone movie that is built up to. He needs space and time and has more then enough story to pull off even a big screen feature. The Fantastic Four, I just think they can wait and maybe even not be a stand alone all at once story. Maybe get Reid out of where ever and work on building out the rest over time.
No. Doom should be treated like Vader. Have him show up being a mystery and beating the heroes before you blow the lid off him in another movie.
I really like the idea of the FF being from the 60's and having been frozen in time or skipped forward about sixty years somehow. It gives an interesting and easy to follow character arc for Reed, Sue and Johnny as they adjust to having lost out on over half a century. It would also be very different from what happened with cap as they not only have each other but didn't lose quite as much time.
To me its pretty obvious how they'll enter. After Reed was introduced in MoM, Strange asked " Didn't you guys chart in the 60's?" We all saw the city bubble in the Quantum Realm. Janet gained powers from being there so long, which may likely be the reason for theirs as well. They've been there the whole time and my guess is the events of Ant-Man 3 will free them
Chart in the 60s is probably a reference to the 1960 musical The Fantasticks by Tom Jones.
@@MrBazBake Two things could be equally true maybe🤷🏾♂️
krasinski and rudd in the same movie and it isnt a comedy
I’m pretty sure the “charting in the 60s” comment is a call back to Strange’s incredible memory for music chart toppers and that there was a soul group out of Detroit called “the Fantastic Four” that *did* chart.
I thought it was just a Beatles joke, since they were the Fab Four
It could also be a reference to The Beatles AKA the Fab Four
@@skindreads Strange is a music nerd. He wouldn’t use the Beatles nickname when he has a chance to flex his music knowledge.
@@jcboyle82 what, he'd rather make a joke that no one gets? I don't think so
@@DaviesKirk Yes. Yes he would if he could flex while doing it.
They were S.W.O.R.D. agents who went to space and got superpowers, simple as that
Boring
No thanks
S.W.O.R.D agents who were captured and experimented on by rebel Skrulls attempting to merge multiple races together and make a super Skrull
They were blah blah blah snore
Could work
Those video got me really excited. I haven't been able to dream up a NARRATIVE reason why the FF should be in the MCU, and I like Ryan's idea a lot. They could be the first proactive characters who embrace the new world of aliens, gods, and magic. All MCU heros so far react to crises and save the day. The FF could instead explore the unlimited possibilities offered by this new era. No more, "The world is changing..." but instead. "Let's go change the world!"
It woud be so crazy if they have Cris Evans to play a cameo human torch at some point of the multiverse, like a Steve´s grandson or so
Oh hey, I was the one who made the fan poster used for the background of this thumbnail! That's cool, I've been loving these Screen Crush videos for a long while!
The Fantastic 4 movies that came out in the early 2000s were awesome! That shite they realesed a few years ago, was just that, shite!
The Fantastic Four have always been my favorite team in Marvel Comics. Thanks for making this video to show how important they are to the Marvel universe.
I think they could be the next corner stone too and I hope they are since they can open us up to soooo much. I also think that John Krasinski could be a good motivating face for the MCU just like RDJ was.
At this point doctor strange kinda is the new face of the mcu
When I was little, my dad's favorite comics were Fantastic 4 and Spider-Man. I grew up with them. I totally enjoy seeing these stories brought to the big screen in such dynamic fashion. Anyone who hates on superhero movies is just, well, a hater.
Bill Burr as Ben Grimm
You are killing it lately 🔥
Honestly, with how packed the cast of the MCU is, and the stories leading up to a multiverse war, they could have some of the MCU movies in the future be in a completely different universe, having the fantastic four and X-Men possibly not even interact with hardly any of the current MCU cast until the crossover event. Or any Other characters that would have been difficult to fit in current MCU for chronological reasons like Miles Morales
I gotta say, when there John Krasinski fancast first arrived, I didn't think he could portray intelligence, as most of his characters I know of aren't exactly scientists. But after watching MoM, I'd say he'd do a fantastic Reed Richards
Best breakdowns!🤓👍🏼🤜🏼🤛🏼
One doesn’t experience self transcendence, the illusion of self only dissipates__🎈
COOL
I love John Krasinski but I really didn't want him to be Mr Fantastic. I think I'm fairly alone in that opinion though lol. I think there'd have been a riot if he didn't get the role.
You raise a good point though about fan casting. I'm worried that fan casting is becoming too much of a thing to the point that huge groups are furious if their preferred fan casting didn't happen.
I trust Marvel 's casting. Loads of people thought RDJ, Chris Evans and Chris Hemsworth were terrible choices when they were announced but now they're seen as perfect casting.
It's great that fans are listened to but I think people need to stop pushing their fan casting so hard.
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@@kosdsd6524 he's not wrong
Fancastings almost never work out though
!00% agree with you. Everytime I see him, I just see Jim cosplaying and expect Dwight to hop on screen as Thing.
Again…the Krasinskis would be perfect in F4. Throw out fan casting & you have 2 ppl absolutely typecasted for RR & Sue. Why do ppl keep pidgeonholing John as ONLY Jim. It’s like only seeing Johnny Depp as Jack Sparrow when he is such a diverse Actor. Move on already.
Why not combine both ideas and have a retro 1960s fantastic 4 adrift in the galaxy they are exploring. For Reed Richards to be impressive he really needs to have some really cool technology that's more advanced even in the alien technology we've seen, so it would make sense if he has been exposed to alien technology and learned from it. They could introduce them in the next Captain Marvel film.
Make it 80's FF, with the kids. They could have been a super hero family from the 80's that people don't talk about much anymore. It makes since. The FF is usually fighting in space or in other dimensions.
The edit with Jim and Dwight was beautiful.
I could see a F4 film doing something similar to Captain Marvel or Captain America in how they start the story in one time but then end it in present day. Steve gets frozen, and Danvers goes off to fight bad guys in other parts of the galaxy.
With the first family it could be that they have been around the whole time but have been fighting threats from the quantum realm (Such as Kang) and we know from Scott that "time works differently in the quantum realm" and as such they've been trapped there for years (our time) but only really days (their time)
Scenario two, which I think would also be very on brand, involves Reed creating some sort of light speed engine that malfunctions and leaves them flying away from earth at relativistic speeds that means that decades pass on earth while only a few weeks or even months pass for them on the ship. Maybe the ship and drive they built is related to the one that Mar-Vell was working on. Also, it could be that the malfunction they experience ties back to how they got their powers. Again similar to carols origin.
Scenario 3 is they exist now, and get their powers in the present day through some freak accident
Reed Richards was a student of Hank Pym in Pymtech later working with Darren cross on the quantum realm but due to some accident the team gets trapped in the quantum realm and develop powers and living in one of those cities shown in ant man. Scott and hank pym will meet them and Darren cross(now as modok) and fight against kang.
Reed: john krasinski
Sue: emily blunt
Johnny: dacre montgomery
Ben: seth rogen
If I were to pull the F4 into the MCU, I'd actually go for a variant coming into the MCU. That would allow the stranger in strange land gimmick again, but keep it fresh. Have them fight something/one other than Doom or Galactus, then end with them coming to the MCU and buying the old Avengers Tower area and make it the Baxter building or something. After credits have some sort of nod to Doom being interested in them and have Nathaniel find leftover Stark tech to potentially become Iron Lad.
But Doctor Strange established that you can’t spend to long in another universe or it will destroy the universe
@@stopgenduh1690 No. It established that Doctor Strange doesn't know how to do it. That doesn't mean Reed Richards couldn't figure it out. Doom certainly could.
Good job on describing what I like about the FF and what makes them so great.
The teams origin should see them working with SHIELD to unlock the powers of the Tesseract (just before Avengers 2012)
Reed, Sue, Ben and Johnny are all working on replicating the device that Zola used in First Avenger.
Their first device test is deemed a tragedy by SHIELD as the whole team disappears after the machine malfunctions during the test. However, it was a success and the four of them are transported to another dimension/universe.
From here the team try in vain to recreate the device and travel back home, only to bounce from reality to reality.
It’s during these trips through dozens of different universes they encounter Kang and become the inspiration for his own pursuit of multiverse travel.
This origin will explain where they have been this whole time and justify Reed being so smart as he’s spend the last decade learning all there is to know from alien and future civilisations in an attempt to get his family home.
Honestly, I’d prefer your idea over the Quantum Realm “from the 60’s” idea. I don’t want The First Avenger all over again, the MCU is repetitive enough as it is.
Agreed on explorers: Lost in Space is the vibe. Trek is the vibe.
That photo at 8:44 of Cap and Sam about to clash always sends shivers down my spine
Rainn Wilson as Dr Doom.
"Identity theft is not a joke Reed!"
Rain Wilson would be great as Modok
@@randymarshusa2928 I'd be fine with that. If what I read is true, had they used Paul Rudd's concept for the next Ant Man movie, we would have seen AIM and Modok.
So, an Easter Egg can have all those meanings all at once and I love it and that you guys added all the meanings the could mean
FF can have traditional origin being in space when a gamma accident happens due to snap (Banner said energy of the stones were closest to gamma). A worm-hole gets created along with the explosion, and F4 gets sucked into worm hole (Quantum realm) as they are being dusted. When Hulk reverse-snap, F4 returns but in Quantum realm. Movie not only is with them dealing with their new powers/appearance, but also exploring the QR before they eventually make their way back (due to Ant-man? Marvels? GotG3? those are three movies slated to release before FF). That way, when they return to Earth-616 to meet other heroes/villains, they are already full-fledged F4.
Meanwhile, Victor was on Earth when the blip happens. Goes into full-on Dark Tony Stark mode (army of robotos to protect the Earth), and starts to build his city (which was already established in TFAWS when small cities/resistance areas were rising post-blip to start their own government/rule) and begins his Dr. Doom journey.
Wow! That 'stranded' / 'Cast Away' idea sounds awesome!! Whether out-of-time or 'lost in space' or quantum realm would be cool for me!! As long as they are done properly. I hope it won't be Kransinski and Blunt though as Reed & Sue. I'm feeling for an actor with a stronger jaw look and one that can play multiple Reeds convincingly too :D Tall order but in Sarah Hayley Finn - I TRUST!! 😄
100% disagree. The Krasinskis would be perfect as Reed & Sue. They have chemistry both on & off screen. Plus, John has “the look” for sure.
He was insinuating that they were a band in the 60s
so, _lost in space_ meets _fantastic four_ ? _cool!_ (oh, and if they really do F4, they should do Power Pack, too - very good, but very underrated, imho)
This has been out out days and this is just now (5 days later) popping up on my notifications saying you just released jt 2 hours ago lmao
The idea of watching them explore the multiverse or even just 616 would be an unreal perspective for the MCU.
My lifetime love of the Fantastic Four is disturbing. The fun quotient of The Incredibles and Brady Bunch (!) movies makes me excited for the '60s take. But I trust Fiege, so I'll just wait and be deliriously happy with what I get :)
10:38 My man!!!!!! 🙏🏽💪👏
I hope Krasinski is the main mcu Reed Richards
@ 2:17 What if The Fantastic 4 accidentally traveled back in time from the 1960s to the Egyptian time where Khonshu was at war with Kang and a certain mutant rebel conqueror who goes by the name of En Sabah Nur aka Apocalypse, who was a former servant of Khonshu but then bargained a new deal with the Celestials to gain his new powers and now has beef with Khonshu and Kang who is disguising himself as Rama-Tut. You could also add the time traveling mutant Cable and a former Wakanda King during the Egyptian reign, into the mix.
The teleportation Reed Richards uses and what the TVA use are similar because it was Reed who invented it and was then expanded upon centuries later by his descendent Nathanial Richards...who is Kang and He Who Remains.
You are absolutely right about this being a science fiction movie. We need solid theories and scientific background with f4. After all mcu fans back in the day are getting older. Teens of that era are more capablenof understanding things and mid-age people of the same era will start to get bored of the same type of movies.
They should have been doing a slow background build over time, and maybe there's still time. They aren't mutants so there's no need for a drastic introduction or time displacement. They can have TV in the background on National Geographic talking about gamma rays in space on Mrs. Marvel, linger on a newspaper headline about an experimental space study lead by top scientist Reed Richards in Wakanda Forever, and then a news special report about a shuttle incident involving the so called "Fantastic 4" in Quantumania. There are more organic ways of introducing new characters than just a ham fisted introduction in a single movie.
I would have them as part of their own parallel earth, separate from any seen prior.
I would open with Dr Doom invading the TVA, downloading their computer files and collecting technology & artifacts.
The TVA seeks out the Fantastic Four, Doom’s natural antagonists, to restore order. Loki could call up Avengers, Kang could call up X-men and Sophie could up others. An all out battle for control of the TVA would ensure.
I want silver surfer and Galactus to not just be a 4 threat but an Avengers threat too
I want an ATLA versions of the Fantastic Four. Reed is fluid like waterbenders, Sue controls invisible forces like airbenders, and well I think the other two are pretty self explanatory.
That's badass!
It was noted in the video that Reed Richards in Doctor Strange 2 has teleportation technology similar to that of He Who Remains from Loki. It was also pointed out that He Who Remains is related to Reed, and that He Who Remains is a descendant of Reed. But I could see this playing out that He Who Remains is a VARIANT of both Reed and Kang.
Yah a Marvel Video with out the " its the Bees" clip. Nice job Ryan
I'm hopeful he'll play Mr Fantastic when we get a fantastic four movie since we didn't get different actors like Tom Cruise playing Tony Stark. We got a different captain marvel but she was playing her character not Carol Danvers. No matter what tho I'm super excited and can't wait to see what they do with fantastic four in the MCU
We'd be lucky to get J.Q for Reed but if we do then you can count out Emily Blunt, the way their film life works is 1 of them films while the other is home
E. B made this clear after their last collaboration I doubt we'll see her 🤷🏻♂️
If they were to be inhabitants of the MCU, it would make far more sense to use the Ultimate Marvel version of them because using the normal versions this late in development wouldnt be right. Plus the whole thing going on in MCU now about bringing any younger Heroes. And if the executives don't meddle too much, you could get some real juice out of Ben suicidal depression, as long as it's not being done as to send the message to people
Now that Tony Stark is gone, Reed should become the central character of the MCU.
i like this!
OG FF from Fox gets lost because of Kang (or Doom?) in the quantum zone. Ant-man squad finds them. Torch is dead. Old man Reed buys stark tower and recruits Spidey. Strange finds and recruites other Universe Reed.
I've actually been to Latveria. It's retro.
Mr. Fantastic actually knows that Wanda has to kill them so that the movie will continue and entertain more people. he is THE SMARTEST MAN ALIVE
I'm glad fans have come to understand just how vital to the Marvel universe the FF are. They are the first family, forever and always. They are pure Stan and Jack magic, never let that flame die.
Was such a good video, then I heard your pronunciation of Valeria Richards and nope. Up until then it was a really good video!
Seeing how I haven't seen Dr. Strange 2 yet, It would be interesting if they do it the way spider-man was done... but since we have a variant of Reed Richards, which means they could be involved in Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumanium which then leads into their own movie. But It would have been better if they were involved in the Infinity War or at least mentioned or a wink.
Maybe Earth 616 Reed Richards will actually be the "smartest man alive"
Here's some rules he should learn:
1). Don't tell the villain your plan.
2). Don't tell the villain your or a teammates powers.
3). Don't go in without a plan.
4). Don't throw objects at a villain that has magical powers. Doom is included.
5). Don't get cocky
6). Don't go in to attack the villain alone.
7). Actually listen if someone tells you that you won't be able to stop the villain
Or just do Snarts from Legends of Tomorrow rules:
make the plan, execute the plan, expect the plan to go off the rails, throw away the plan.
That works too
I like that storyline from that cartoon that you just showed where Ben was just invulnerable and super strong until Reed tried to get rid of their powers and tested it on him first it turned him into the thing that's a lot better than him being the only one that turned ugly From The Storm it made more sense too
Best introduction of F4 would be...way back in 60s they were sent to a space mission for exploration and through worm hole they trapped on a planet far from earth like interstellar....there their age doesn't age like on earth 🌎. On a mission of saving something Captain Marvel find them helpless and turned superheroes fantastic 4s. Where she fights them and after defeating them and bring them on earth 616 like she brought tony stark. Also for X-men....Some powerful mutant had said in past - No more mutants and all mutants doesn't exist on 616. it could be Older Jean Grey 🥤 but Some villain from multiverse Uses genetics to make colonies in many universes of mutants. This way he/she plants mutants in 616 too. But instant of his/her puppets he/she got Good mutants and faught back to defeat evil ones and him/her too 🥤
OMG a space exploration movie!! I hadn't thought of that, I'm not a reader so I don't know anything about the F4...
They could just have a line drop how they were in the quantum realm or something and be set in space :D
I think it would be interesting. Like how there might be no Vision in any other universe for Wanda, maybe no other universe has a Dr. Doom except the 616 one, so when 616 and another universe collide and merge, Billy and Tommy become real, but so does Franklin Richards and the fantastic 4. They come into conflict with Doom before he even becomes Dr. Doom in 616, maybe Franklin and the fantastic 4 arrive as teens, and same goes for Dr. Doom, maybe doom is a younger threat and the team is younger as well, which could create a very interesting dynamic between the Fantastic 4 and the new Young Avengers in the MCU.
Jim! I yelled in the cinema room. Everyone looked at me and that was awful🤣
I also can't wait for Spidey and johnny storm being buds
What also makes sense, is that because Mordo is the sorcerer surpreme in that universe. He could have the time stone and saw all of this coming, that's why Mordo wasn't there to fight and isn't dead. because now he can reverse time and make the Illuminati be alive again, including Reed Richards. In my opinion this makes sense.
Having the F4 assumed to be lost in space/dead after a freak accident, but then somehow arriving back on earth with powers would easily work getting them into the MCU. They could tie it with Howard Stark maybe assisting Reed Richards with the rocket they use, to give us a little connection to characters we know and love.
I would have LOOOVED to see Reed’s 1960s F4 vision. Would have been so cool and different.
Besides Adam warlock when has marvel ever introduced or talked about a character and never brought them up again?
But even with that one example I gave Adam will show up soon, soo
Here's my fancast Krasinski and Blunt are a given for Reed and Sue no doubt. Zac Efron or Dacre Montgomrey for Johnny. Now for Ben/Thing i've always wanted David Harbour. I know he's Red Guardian, but if Gemma Chan and Mchelle Yeoh can play two characters so can Harbour, but alternatives would be either Liev Schreiber, Jason Segel or Jesse Plemons. As for Doom i would love GOT's Nikolaj Waldau or LOTR's Viggo Mortensen.
This has nothing to do with the fantastic four but i rewatched Loki and got to thinking does the TVA deal with anything off earth like I know the whole purpose was to keep other kangs from being created but wouldn’t at least some off world stuff cause that as well
Oh yeah, they arrested a Skrull in episode 1, also remember they arrested Sylvia when she’s a kid on Asgard which is very off earth
As for the FF in the MCU. I think the best way to handle the FF is to have them be an episodic series that then also makes cameos or takes part in the Movies. The FF really needs the episodic series time to develop their family dynamic and reach into the deep back story of their adventurous exploits and the villains they have dealt with, which many times are deeply connected to them and their history.
I think it would be great to have them arrive back on Earth after having been on a deep space travel adventure which started back int eh 1960's. Due to time compression the experienced while they were space traveling, they were only gone for a few weeks but when they get back 60 years have gone by on Earth. This lets them be as they were during the 1960's and have anachronistic behavior, needing to catch up to today's world. They will also be suddenly very much more wealthy than when they left because the inventions that Reed had built for the FF to use were sold after their presumed deaths, and once they are back they are able to reclaim the rights to them and get billions of dollars for the licensing and such. some of them would be the Laptop computer, Cell phones, parts of the internet. This would also be a tie in with She-Hulk, who has been a member of the FF at times, to be their lawyer helping them to procure their lost rights and ownership.
The first season could be their origin and first encounters with some of the villains and troubles they had back in the 1960's. There could be one long story arch with some other smaller side plots in each season. Each season could be one of the early major FF story lines, and a couple side plots. After a couple seasons then integrate them into the Main MCU. Them returning to warn about the coming of Galactus on the trail of the Silver Surfer with a back flash story of the first visit by Galactus, and how they managed to get him to leave Earth, would be a good intro to the MCU.
Alice Eve Should be cast as Sue Storm.
I don't have a Johnny Storm choice, but I think he should be the same ethnicity as Sue.
I think Ben Grim would be great if played by a Black actor. Ben Grim's history and background much better fits that of a black man who worked himself out of the ghettos of NYC to become a fighter pilot, and an astronaut.
I believe her name is pronounced Va-Lair-E-Uh
All I know is that there better be a scene at some point of Reed Richards having a nightmare of the Scarlet Witch turning him into spaghetti and popping his head.
I like to think of his appearance in the movie as a screen test. We can still get him as reed Richard’s from another earth
It’s be nice to get the Spider-Man treatment. In the sense of look at what has already been done, don’t repeat etc.
Skip the origin, media res maybe, have the origin eluded to through a counselling scene or two. Stuff like that.
I thought "didn't you chart in the 60s?" was a reference to the Beatles, the "fab four", and Stephen was being his snarky music buff self.
Dr Doom is a whole new analysis. He could change the dynamic of the MCU even more than the FF themselves. I’d love to see your comments on him
I like the idea of FF being from another reality drawn to 616 by some crazy multiversal event. Same thing goes for Xmen (although I feel the fox Xmen characters could easily be brought back in)
I thought that DS2 would pull a reverse house of M with wanda trying to bring back her kids by bringing mutants into 616 same way DS inadvertently drew in spiderman characters into 616.
I think you should do a video explaining the relationship between fantastic 4 and dr. Doom would be cool😁
Pretty good video I guess
I think you would be an awesome Reed Richards variant!
I like both the 60s theory and your theory but I honestly don’t care how they bring them in, I’m just glad they’re coming 😂
Since Reed is basically a descendant of kang the conqueror in the comics and is related to him, what if the mcu might do their own take by making Reed a variant of Kang the conqueror/he who remains but only the fact that reed is a hero.
Plus, he who remains explained his origin in loki which was similar to kang's/reed's origin in the comics and this might be shown in more detail later in the mcu
With Marvel digging deeper into Cosmic.... you need a FF around as the eyes/ears of the MCU. A S.W.O.R.D sponsored exploration team that becomes public after a mishap.
A 5-6 episode annual series on Disney+ in between cameos by individual members could work.
Glad I saw the movie last wednesday and did not get the spoiler about Krasinski in the movie in this thumbnail. I know the movie has released almost 2 weeks now but there are people that did not get to see yet. : (
Whoever gets cast the FF film DOES need a CGI Smilin' Stan cameo as an hommage to Marvel's first family !
nice