Lightweight EDC Knives | Spyderco vs. Benchmade
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Lightweight EDC knife showdown... Here are some links in the order that they appear.
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Crazy to see how much more expensive these knives are now only 2 years later
Right? Inflation went crazy
It’s Deflation. But it’s ok. It’s literally all a scam. Im thinking about m4 bailout…
@@EastCoastMan603 De-fla-tion (noun) reduction of the general level of prices in an economy.
I don’t think that’s correct lol
It’s price gouging plain and simple. I want the M4 bailout, but now it’s $270. I could get a microtech utx-85 for just a little bit more
Spyderco all day. Who doesnt love a knife from Earth?
Spyderco because they know what quality control is
I've been rocking my Ranger Green bugout for about 18 months now and I love it. 6 months or so ago I updated the scales to the Flytanium carbon fiber scales and it's perfect now.
The Spyderco Sage 5 is what the para 3 should have been. The different style pivot makes the Sage feel like a premium knife. So smooth
I preordered the para 3 lw when it first came out and I love it. It is my go to carry knife. Out of my whole collection, it is probably my most carried.
Same
Same.
I picked up my first Benchmade at my local gun range. They had a blue Bugout with S30V for $90. Great price so I couldn't pass.
If you purchased it new, that was a great price! The bug out is really a good quality knife!
@@RickJZ1973 It was new.
@@RickJZ1973 It’s good quality. Not “decent”
@@LorianandLothric yes, it definitely is a good quality knife. I concur with your reply 100% (edited my original comment). I have really taken to the Benchmade bugout. Now have eight of them. Benchmade hit a home run with the design of it.
@@RickJZ1973 Agreed. I didn’t like the Bugout when I first saw it but it’s now one of my favorites
I was fortunate enough to get a para 3 for Christmas last month and holy shit its literally the perfect knife. The attention to detail is insane and I have zero complaints about it. I even got a Lynch deep carry clip and put it on there and now its an 11/10 knife. If you like knives and are considering the para 3 just know its worth the $150.
Benchmade Bugout/Bailouts are the perfect contingency knives, keep them in your range bag/backpack/tank bag/bike kit... They aren't the knife you carry when you intend on cutting things, but are light enough to always carry as a contingency. Para 3 is a small convenient knife you carry in your pocket every day. I have them all and bought the Benchmade with deep discounts.
I really like my bailout, it's about a year old now with zero issues
The spyderco native 5 lightweight needs to be brought up. I know spyderco just raised their prices, but I believe you can still find it for under $100 and there are a bunch of coupon codes out there for different sites. The base native 5 lw is s30v, frn scales, a bank vault satisfying back lock. It also has the ergonomics that make you feel like you could cut down a small tree with it. Sorry for babbling, but for me, the native made me realize what the heart eyes emoji meant all this time!
I feel the same way. I have some knives that are more precious and a whole bunch that I carry more often. But my Native 5LW and my Manix 2LW would be the ones that I'd want to keep if I had to let go of everything else. That said, my 535 Mini Freek is just soooo sweet ... not as good a slicer as the Native but it does have a very beautiful blade, feels even more comfortable in hand than any Spyderco knife I've ever handled, it's easier to get past when it's in the pocket, and it's also a wonderful fidgettoy😋
An excellent knife for sure.
I can't believe I missed the Blade HQ sale on the Blackout Bugout. Hopefully they bring it back.
I got the black bugout for $99 on black Friday and I definitely agree that the normal price is too high. Can't wait to pick up the Para3 LW too.
So knifes tend to be 20% off on Black Friday and Boxing day or something? I also want the Bugout but it's a bit too expensive. Also, I wish the Bugout came with a non painted blade with a neutral colored handle version.
Spiderco is the only lockback I would trust and benchmade locking systems work good when they are new but to me they get spooky when the the knife is old/worn, etc. Great review 👍💚
Spyderco back lock get too much back rock. I like cold steel back lock better. Code 4 tanto for the win.
Imo tanto tips last and last😎
Spyderco backlocks are not even in the same league as cold steels. Simple engineering fact. They’re still good tho.
I own a bunch of bm, and I feel the complete opposite.
I’ve been stuck on a SOG terminus XR since I bought the CF BDZ1 version last week. I absolutely LOVE it
This is right in my wheel house. I carry and cut daily ( Job requirement) so light and effective is what I'm after. I carried the Endura for over 5 yrs, I moved to the Para 2 and improved edge retention but lost pocket space. I want a Para 3 now and the Bugout but for a great budget version I cant find anything to beat the Steel Will Intrigue.Good edge retention (D2), Great cost factor, 2.9 ounces, And a big factor for me is how slim it is allowing me to use my pocket while it has no bulk or weight reminding me I have a good sized knife on me. carry one and it will grow on you like my Endura did. Great Video... nice to see a user vs all the reviewers out here.
I'm with ya on the Intrigue! Once I rotated it in, I couldn't get it out of my pocket for a long time. I have a para 3 on order now, but that Intrigue is a real gem. 👍
I have the para 3 lightweight, and i love it. Great steel, and almost forget i have it. My edc right now is a zero tolerance 0350 or a zero tolerance 0770 cf. Great video man love your channel.
I'm totally digging my Spyderco Native 5!!!
Native 5 lightweight is a superb knife.
I'd love to know what you think of the Spyderco Manix light weight. I just bought one for my father for Christmas & haven't seen him yet to give it to him. I bought my brother a Manix 2xl for Christmas which is my favorite EDC that I carry being a lefty. Love the review. Great content !
Got the para 3 over the summer thanks to your videos. Favorite EDC hands down
Me, I don’t concern my self with weight too much, I like to carry all kinds of knifes. Most days I carry 2. Love my CRKT neck knifes along with a knife in my waistline.
Thanks for filming
I have a Bugout, and love it - especially for backpacking. BUT, I just got a BM Grizzly Ridge from KnifeWorks. GREAT knife for $79. S30V, and technically from their Hunt class. Love it. 3.5 ounces or so. 3.5" blade... yes, with a bit of recurve, but that does not bother me at all.
I was gifted the Delica 4, with gray scales, for a graduation present a couple months ago. It is a sweet knife! It is my first nice knife. I already ordered a Pacific Salt 2 in LC200N for snorkeling and food prep in Maui, and I can’t wait to get it and start fiddling with it. I like the idea of getting a Para 3 Lightweight for hiking/camping. The knife costs $154 now! I will end up getting it, but it seems very expensive.
Before Benchmade 535 (Bug Out) there was super lightwieght Benchmade 530
The main thing I don't like about benchmade is the omega springs. Both of them broke on my 940. For a knife that I like to fidget with and use I don't want to worry about it breaking on me and that's why I don't want to get another benchmade ever again. Spydercos are always solid and reliable and razor sharp.
I will point you toward the new Spyderco Rock Jumper. Get one in hand. You will love it.
These things almost double in price since this review! For the $ it cost today I would go for Para 3, the rest of the stuff is just too much $$$ for a very little bang!
i think knife center have a battle wash version of the bugout which is like black and reddish color.
I just received my new Para 3 lightweight with black blade to replace my old Kershaw Shuffle. Wanted the para 3 but couldn't justify the price for an EDC knife. Very happy with the para 3 lightweight so far. Thanks for the great videos Talon. Appreciate how detailed you are in your reviews.
I saw a vid of Nick Shabazz. He changed the blade on his lightweight Para3 to a maxamet steel version.
A collaboration between Talon and Nick would be awesome lol.
@@coryames1170 if they did. Would Talon be Robin?
Since I went to compression lock I cant go back. So easy and fun to use. People ask me if I've loosened the blade. They cant believe how easy I open and close it so fast one handed. Love the Spyderco Para 3. Spyderco should start putting more deep carry clips on knives though. Great thoughts and commentary. Subbed and liked
Your right there, I'm the same
I'm not familiar with Spyderco yet, question are there pocket clips interchangeable like Benchmade?
Knives are so subjective. I have all of those except the bailout, and you may have just convinced me to pick that one up too. I actually prefer the feel of the bugout, but I'm sure I'm on an island there. I use the PM2 at work but the bugout i use as more of a "gentleman's knife" it absolutely disappears into slacks or dress pants. I kinda wish spyderco would do a delicia in better materials with a better action, I would absolutely take a hard look at that
Wow 😯 it’s like you read my mind. I’m looking for an EDC Knife 🔪 to match my Beretta 92X Performance. Right on time
Cold steel air lite? It comes in at 3.2 oz
Other one’s to consider are the Benchmade 531 that comes in at 2.1 ounces and uses actual G-10 with an over 3” inch blade. Spyderco Chaparral Carbon fiber at 2.5 ounces 2.8 inch blade. Spyderco Sage 5 3.2 ounces for carbon fiber version and 2.7 ounces for FRN version.
Got to remember the butterfly 🦋 tax , keep up the good work but personally prefer bigger and heavier knives
As far as Benchmade lightweight knives go I like the mini griptilian it may be a touch heavier than the bugout about .5 oz but they come in around $100, and the new models still use S30v.
Honestly I picked up a bugout and sold it because I still love my mini grip 555
Agreed. I love my blue Bugout, but find myself grabbing my Mini Griptilian more frequently.
I just can't seem to fall in love with the Spiderco looks. The blade shape is a thorn in my eyes. When everything is so similar today, the difference between two great knives with great steel and top notch materials are going to be the looks.
Talon, I bet you’d really like the Spyderco Chaparral with frn scales.
I think I might have to get one. I have both stepped titanium versions and the raffir noble Chaparral maybe get the FRN one so I carry it more then those other ones. Things are ground so nice and thin. I think they are still $90 maybe a little less even with the last price increase. I don't worry to much about weight though but it is nice to have a knife that isn't to damn heavy. I prefer a slimmer knife though so it doesn't take up so much pocket real estate. Even if it is a bit heavy just so I can get my hand in and out of there if I need to get my keys or lighter whatever out of that pocket. The one I have been carrying lately though sure as hell isn't light or that thin lol my Berg Blades Iron Wolf. I absolutely love that knife so I went and got the smaller version the Iron Pup too but I don't really like it as much as the Iron Wolf still an awesome knife. That and the CKF Ossom, Terzoula Cyrus, Pena Lanny's Clip, Reate Starboy are the ones I have carried most lately. Carried my Rex45 Shaman from Knifecenter some too and my DLC M4 BHQ Shaman a bit too since I just got it and my Fradon Lock Hap40 and carbon fiber Delica too but just got that one too. So much thinner then a normal FRN Delica and so much sturdier feeling but it also feels like its double the weight lol.
You should try the SOG Flash 2 knife. I’ve used my fair share of knives but this one is by far the best EDC knife I have ever used.
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I was wondering where you went dude 🤣 I’ll see ya in there again sometime 🤙🏻
The funny thing is that i tried to use the selfie stick to get a picture with you and that caused my pc to crash😅
One day I’ll have that sweet collection you have ! Dope review bro, never fails!
you shuld include the presidio 2 mini . it's a very underated knife . i think better any way then the bugout
My light edc knife is a Bestech folder called Ghost (I have the full carbon model). Fantastic blade, both light (83 gram/2.9oz) and sturdy. Steel on it is s35vn. It is also a very good looking folder;)
Check out the mini grip by Benchmade, I found mine at a pawnshop for $60 it's been a great little knife
Mini Griptilian best lightweight edc knife
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Agree, got mine at a pawn shop for $60
For me that would be the Mini Freek. I love the 555 Mini Grip (and I adore the Doug Ritter version, but that would be a Hogue now ...), and the 'Versaflex' on the Mini Freek might not be the most durable material and also sometimes makes it a bit tougher to get back in the pocket, but the Mini Freek just feels better in my hands and it has a nicer blade.
You mention that the price tag is high on the bugout but what about the delica? The delica is easily one of the most overpriced knives if you ask me.
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Spyderco is mental for charging that much for a basic lock back.
Just have to look for sprints and exclusives. So many of those are nearly the same price as a standard model. I don't own a standard Delica or Endura myself because no way can I pay what they ask for them now especially when I only paid $94 for my Cutlery Shoppe Endura and Delica which are Hap40 and have that Zome orange and black finish to the FRN. I paid $106 for my Fradon Lock Delica and that one is carbon fiber and Hap40 paid that same range for my Knifeworks Delica that is s90v and black FRN with blue liners. The way he talking about the Bugout like its so over priced but those Para 3 LW and Delica isn't lol the s30v is a far superior steel to the VG10 and BD1N you get with the Spydercos. One of the reasons I wont buy a Para 3 LW is the steel and they are around $100 now with the price increases every year they will be over $100 next year. Only way I will get a Para 3 LW is the new Spy27 model that is coming, the Rex45 sprint I have on pre order if it gets filled or if I get one of the DLT exclusives with M390 or if anybody else does an exclusive. Those are around $130-145 or so I believe so they are in that same price range as the Bugout and that BHQ exclusive Bugout was $99 on sale for Black Friday.
Between the Byrd Meadowlark and the Native 5LW I don't get why anyone would choose the Delica🤔🤧😏
I've been carrying lightweights for awhile,but lately I've been carryingthings like the houge ritter,the we bogardous,the spydee tropen,etc,and honestly,I don't notice the extra weight in my pocket.What I notice more is the space a knife takes up-some of my lighter knives I actually feelnmore inbpocket
My thoughts exactly on these knives. I could not agree more.
Try using your trigger finger to spidey flick the delicate and endura. Where it’s at, with 2 turn tables and a microphone. Keep it comin.
940 beats all of those options imo.
But of those id have a hard time choosing between the light weight para and bugout. With the bugout possibly getting the edge for the better blade to handle ratio, possibly lol.
3v is an awesome steel not only is it super hard in terms of edge retention but the composition of the steel allows for nearly the best steel of you have to pry or do any there where the blade could bend it’s probably the best pocket knife steel in terms of using to beat the hell out of something and not worry about anything but it loosing an edge.
How is your para 3 lightweight’s centering spot on, no one else’s is?! It’s not awful, but all I seen is favoring the lock side. Not show side.
Love my Native 5 LW.
Me too.
I just got the Maxamet para 3. It was pricey, but I love it. I gotta stop buying knives, its becoming a problem....
I can’t also get past the cheese grader handles on the Spyderco- and Bugout scales are too flimsy. So I’d opt for the pm3
The grivory which is just FRN really from Benchmade is plenty strong. The Bugout is a great EDC nothing I would use for heavy duty work though. I love my Para 3s too but even those aren't what I would use for heavy duty work but either are fine for what you would realistically use your EDC knife for, opening boxes, cutting food, opening letters whatever they will handle it. There is all the aftermarket scales too but then you are adding weight if you get titanium, copper, bronze not sure what the difference is with the carbon fiber and G10 scales but they would have a little flex to them as well. I don't want a Para 3 LW because I don't want to pay nearly $100 for BD1N. I want to see upgraded steel. The Spy27 version is coming but I think they are like $135. DLT had their M390 exclusive but they are long sold out. There is the Rex45 sprint coming too I have a pre order on if it gets filled those I think are $145 something like that. If I am carrying a folder that is going to be a bit heavier duty use it would probably be one of my Shamans maybe my Crooked River few others too. I have a few smaller fixed blades too I carry every now and then that would fill the roll good too.
I love the size and ergo of the Bailout just hope they offer it in other blade shapes and I agree on the price
FWIW Rivers Edge Cutlery has been selling them with the blade reground into a drop point with no price markup & will regrind a customer Bailout for $15.
Awesome video bro I always carry spyderco delica
The Para 3 pretty much ends this battle. It is the perfect EDC knife.
Dude, you basically have every spyderco!
I have Spyderco G10 and I love it the best knife I ever had
Question: why do people care so much about how much a knife weighs? I can barely tell the difference and it's often so small it seems irrelevant. I'd understand if you were backpacking across the country or something cause every bit of weight starts adding up but for every day use it doesn't really seem to matter. I carry a pocket knife, flashlight, phone, earphones, wallet, keys, handkerchief, and a whole ass battery bank/hand warmer. I've never really noticed the weight and believe me the battery bank weighs more than all those knives put together. And that's probably nothing compared to what a firearm weighs too so can anyone explain what the big deal about a knifes weight is?
My CIVIVI Elementum feels better to me than the Bugout. The Bugout is too light, feels fragile and toy like to me...but that's just me. I have a wharncliffe blade Delica as well. My usual everyday carry is a Shaman, but the Elementum is a close 2nd, because of it's lightweight.
Get a para3 LW or a mini grip 555 with the spydy hole and you can’t go wrong I have both
Today I carried my 4max and buck 110....looks like I'm getting a lightweight para 3 to add as a small option thanks!
I was looking at a bailout, but didn't like the steel, went with a delica instead, and am happy with my choice.
Always loved my Bugout until they came out with the mini Bugout which is even better than the original in my opinion . I wish they would do a mini bailout too. lol
If you like a delica splurge for the zdp-189 the steel is excellent
Buy the benchmade Arcane (or the mini Coalition) and bury the rest. Native 5 LW also, spy27 is very good.
I am a recent subscriber and a huge fan of your work Talon! Quick question - if you had to choose between Para 3 G10 and Para 3 LW, which would you choose?
Not sure if you've picked up a knife yet but I prefer the LW. I have both but I feel myself going for the LW more often especially when the weather warms up. I tend to wear a lot of gym shorts and the LW doesn't swing around or bug me like the normal Para 3 does. The G10 definitely feels better but that doesn't mean the LW is flimsy. Hope this helps.
Both are well and worth the money- unless you’re a fan of higher end knives and “custom” etc
I like my bailout a lot plus I have the premium one with aluminum scales and m4 steel
At $84 the Delica isn't worth it to me anymore while it still has a VG10 blade
It was the perfect $50 dollar knife, then Spyderco got greedy
It's a weak lock back design as well.
Skinny Moose holding at least 300 pound up to 380 is not a weak lock back tho... it’s still a decent knife, just more expensive than it should be
@@grandvizir Does it hold that much? The couple I've had were kinda sloppy with blade play, just seemed kinda wimpy.
Skinny Moose maybe fakes ? Or very used ? Mine is a couple years old and I can’t even flip it open one handed since it’s so well put together and tight.
I was debating buying the para 3 lightweight or the bugout but now I’m definitely buying the para 3. Thanks Talon
I just got a Benchmade bailout in black aluminum in cpm-3v and liking it still kinda stiff
Benchmade Bugout with copper scales is my EDC knife all in $200 and I know that's a lot for a knife but I wanted something thing light (even with copper scales it is real light) and something that will last years.
Just ordered the Bugout M4 Steel with aluminum scales, Anxiously awaiting its arrival.
I cant decide if I want the para 3 or if i should save some cash and get the tenacious, is the para 3 worth the extra cash? which one should I get?
#patreonsquad #monetizeTalonSei
I love the Para 3 LW, even if I end up knocking the wire clip out of it slots where I have to use it to hold on while closing it left handed. If we could just get a left handed para 3 lw I would be in heaven.
For whatever reason the wire clip on my LW para 3 always shifted in hand, and the FRN was very slippery. I much prefer the FRN Sage 5
I would just like to see upgraded steel. DLT had their M390 exclusive but they are long gone and have to pay a premium 2nd hand. The Spy27 is coming sometime and I have a pre order on the Rex45 sprint if it gets filled. Those upgraded steel versions are every bit as much or more then a Bugout though. I like my Bugouts too.
As a general rule, to stay safe you should pace yourself, not overexert, rest often, drink plenty of water and eat regularly throughout your hike. There are, however, some specific injuries and afflictions that you need to be aware of so that you can deal with them.
I think deep carry clips are overrated. 1) weaker by design always have bending issues if snagged. 2) makes it harder to pull knife out of pocket. Less knife to grab.
ecksdog I agree. What’s the point? Like anybody cares if you got a pocket knife. And if they do then they likely know what the clip is attached to.
Have you tried the SPYDERCO Endura 4 Lightweight Combination Edge Knife? I really like the combination of the serated and straight edge. You can pick it up for around 80 off Amazon. Would love to see you try it for a month and review it.
I haven’t just because I prefer a straight edge blade
Benchmades are generally more functional for me bc of the axis lock, but Spydercos are made better.
Agreed man!
I also kindof see the bailout as a nice like backup law enforcement knife if that makes sense, still a good blade and everything and can handle a beating but saves on weight so its a good secondary. Just me tho
Spyderco FTW!
I do belive that they are coming out eith a better handle matterial for the bugout/bailout so maybe that will help bring some people back. I bought a bugout (ranger green) because i wanted a light, edc knife that could take medium to light use and although i love the style of the mini griptillian i only really want the blue/grey blade hq exclusive one but the bugout was just a bit more affordable for me seeing as how it and my esee 6 are the only over 100 dollar knives i own
Both versions of the bailout are in my opinion the best knife out there from this list. As a former servicemember I understand the marketing of the bailout to us, because when you're out in the field ounces are pounds, and when you're operating in 120°F+ environments a good lightweight knife is amazing. The grivory doesnt feel sturdy but it holds up, and the extra cost is understandable considering Benchmades have arguably a better warranty than spydercos. Also tanto gang, whats better than one point? Two.
The price on the bench made otf knives are fucking outlandish
I like my para 3, but on more than one occasion it has pinched me while pressing the compression lock.
Bug out is my favorite EDC of all time. Not saying Spyderco isn’t awesome. Just think the bug out is special.
The Para 3 (and Native being similar) are safer because of the way you hold it. Should the lock ever give way, the blade cannot cut your index finger. The worst that happens is that the underside of the blade gimping folds over and pinches your finger.
Bugout it is, great blade and super reliable. Thanks for your comparisons.
I want to buy a new edc knife what's the best non fixed most use would be packages cardboard and self defense
I've been rocking the delica 4 for most of 2019, prob not gunna change for 2020 even with a sebenza and miscreant knife in the collection ,what kind of case is that for the knives
He’s mentioned in one of his old collection videos it’s a “Seahorse” case. Just google that and you should find it
Got my bugout at the local knife store, $98 haha couldn’t pass it up the guy sells everything for best prices. The Delca 4 for my dad was only $73
I love my para 3 lw but not as much as the zt 0450. The para 3 gets to be my edc as its at a better value knife, so if i lost it I wouldnt cry as much. Ultimately i want something size and style similar to 0450 but around $60 us.
The SOG carbon fiber knife check that out.
Is there a reason why everyone puts Spyderco in front of Delica and pretty much just Delica? I know it sounds good, but it's a Delica, right?
All great knives! 👍👊