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What is not mentioned is that the Canadian Department of Defense had NO IDEA IT WAS EVER THERE until contacted by the author of the book. To say Ottawa went Ape Sh$# Nuts when they found out about the Nazi weather station from 1943 would be a monumental understatement! Hello from Toronto.
Why would they care? Not that big of a secret either.... A lot of those former Kriegsmariners moved here, or came back here after the war, and have been openly taking part in Remembrance Day ceremonies since! In places outside Ontario and Quebec, it's still Remembrance Day, NOT Remembrance 2 mins! Vets have their am parade, ceremony at the cenotaph, a quick lunch, then all hit the Legion / Army Navy Airforce Club by noon to get their drink on!!! You ever want to hear the untold stories of war? The stuff that didn't make the history books or internet? Sit down, buy your table a round, then learn more chit in 12 hours then you would in years of school! Ole Valter will tell you where they cut a hole in the harbour sub net, where the sandbar was they used to bottom their u-boat on, which bars they'd drank at in town before bringing back a load of booze and tobacco for the crew! Or.. where they'd take shore leave to go hunting and fishing in NS, Anticosti, North Shore, Labrador, etc How do you hide a German in NS plain view? Coal dust eyes, ears, nose, fingernails and money just like the 1000 other Eastern European miners!
Not surprised it wasn't found for decades, a US plane had gone down near there and that wasn't found until after WWII also. Having lived in Hopedale in the 60's I can attest to it being sparsely populated and the fishing boats never ventured that far north.
History, you mention Canada a fair amount in this video. Newfoundland and Labrador was a country and under commission of government under England. This said. We, didn’t join Canada until 01April1949
April Fools Day 1949. Did someone in authority have a sense of humour or a complete lack of knowledge about April Fools Day? 😮 Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
@@markfryer9880 there was a very short leader in Newfoundland leading the charge. Watch "The Shipping News" and I couldn't believe how the film NAILED that island. As Rick Mercer, a native, would say, it's the perfect combination of politics.....and comedy.........and throw in the booze. Lots of it. In fact, a LOT in common with Australia.
The jet stream was not really understood until after WW2. What they were looking for was basically highs and lows that were understood to move west to east in those latitudes. With surface winds they could track the highs and lows coming into the Atlantic. There was at least one other ground operation in North America when the Germans landed agents on the coast that were quickly captured.
Your comment about the jetstream is not entirely correct. During most of WWII it was being encountered for the first time, especially by the B-29 crews over Japan. During their high altitude missions they found themselves facing the problems of either zero ground speed or barrelling along at 600 mph. Neither option was good and there was no way that the Norden bombsight could deal with such variables. These difficulties helped persuade General Le May to change tactics and to go down lower and at night, and then to start with fire bombing raids. In one of my books on the B-29, a navigator relates how he encountered the jetstream and after some calculations he decided to give his pilots a single course to fly back home to their base. I can't recall which specific one it was, Guam, Tinian or Siapan. His test was successful and not only did they bisect the airfield, but they were one of the first crews home. His technique became known post war in the Strategic Air Command by the title Pressure Pattern Navigation. Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺😢
@@markfryer9880 You prove my point. The jet stream was not even forecasted or understood to be the driving force we now know about until late 44 when first encountered by the B-29 crews that finally flew high enough to encounter the strong upper-level jet stream.. And the equipment the Germans left that is the basis for this story did not have the ability to measure anything but surface winds so they were not measuring the jet stream. Radiosondes were few and far between and did not measure winds much above 500mb because they were tracked visually. The pictures of folks launching weather balloons during the war were not high altitude balloons.
One of the German Surface Raiders, The Cormorant, a modified 12:17 merchant ship with concealed gun batteries, caught the RAN cruiser Sydney of guard and sank her off the coast of Western Australia, before she herself sank/was scuttled and the crew later captured. There were no survivors from the Sydney. 😢 Both vessels were discovered just a couple of years ago. Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
At 5:20 you correctly point out that Newfoundland/Labrador was a Dominion of Britain, so why the misinformation in the title the title "Secret German Weather Station in *Canada* "?
Labradors was part or the province of Quebec, the land was given away to Newfoundland in 1949. By the way Canada is part of North America… thus the country called America does not exist, never existed.
@@pittsky no Labrador was never a part of Quebec The Privy Council of England settled the issue in 1927 when they ruled that the ‘coast ‘ of Labrador , that is from the sea to the hight of land , and/ or the top of the watershed that runs eastward , was part of Newfoundland. Essentially Quebec owned the land it inherited from the Hudson Bay Company, all that land that drained into Hudson Bay. So the Coast was interpreted as from the hight of land to the Ocean. Newfoundland had always had trade and business ties to Newfoundland. And Newfoundland annually sent a travelling judge who settled disputes in Labrador. So that’s why The Privy Council ruled Labrador was part of the country of Newfoundland.
@@pittsky By the channel's name the content creator appears to want to to build a channel to present history. If so then they need to check their facts. If they want a channel like the 'Dark xxxx" series of entertainment channels that present events loosely based on historical facts then this is good enough.
@@gibraltersteamboatco888 Yup. Stopped watching any of the "Dark" franchise content, and anything Simon Whistler - just content mills that regularly spit out bad information. Too bad really because I tend to like their subject matter overall.
Where I am today (Columbia valley in BC) German is virtually the second language (Austrian, Swiss, German). Job CREATORS, entrepreneurs, machine and mechanic shops, ranches with Simmental and Charolais cattle. Did I mention JOB creators?? i.e. NOT arriving in Canada to GAME the system. Contributors, not TAKERS. No tats, no coke, no pot, no vape....ok, so a few Bitcoin mines!!!
I lost count of how many times "nazi" was said. Wasn't the nazi party a political party? I wonder if every German soldier carried a card of affiliation.
Not everyone was a nazi,but the nazis certainly made all the orders,and expected the non- nazis to carry them out.At the head of the gov,you had nazis barking out all of the orders!
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What is not mentioned is that the Canadian Department of Defense had NO IDEA IT WAS EVER THERE until contacted by the author of the book. To say Ottawa went Ape Sh$# Nuts when they found out about the Nazi weather station from 1943 would be a monumental understatement! Hello from Toronto.
Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)
Why would they care? Not that big of a secret either.... A lot of those former Kriegsmariners moved here, or came back here after the war, and have been openly taking part in Remembrance Day ceremonies since! In places outside Ontario and Quebec, it's still Remembrance Day, NOT Remembrance 2 mins! Vets have their am parade, ceremony at the cenotaph, a quick lunch, then all hit the Legion / Army Navy Airforce Club by noon to get their drink on!!! You ever want to hear the untold stories of war? The stuff that didn't make the history books or internet? Sit down, buy your table a round, then learn more chit in 12 hours then you would in years of school! Ole Valter will tell you where they cut a hole in the harbour sub net, where the sandbar was they used to bottom their u-boat on, which bars they'd drank at in town before bringing back a load of booze and tobacco for the crew! Or.. where they'd take shore leave to go hunting and fishing in NS, Anticosti, North Shore, Labrador, etc How do you hide a German in NS plain view? Coal dust eyes, ears, nose, fingernails and money just like the 1000 other Eastern European miners!
It wasn't in Canada. It was in Labrador, which was part of the Dominion of Newfoundland. Newfoundland is part of Canada now, but was not during WW2.
Came to the comments to mention this, Labrador wasn't part of Canada at the time
@@bellabeetleproductions_dogdadhe clearly states this, if you watch it all
@@lakai475 Eventually he states it, after twice previously saying it happened in Canada. Then there's the title.
Not surprised it wasn't found for decades, a US plane had gone down near there and that wasn't found until after WWII also.
Having lived in Hopedale in the 60's I can attest to it being sparsely populated and the fishing boats never ventured that far north.
Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)
Odd then that 'wires had been cleanly cut'?
History, you mention Canada a fair amount in this video. Newfoundland and Labrador was a country and under commission of government under England. This said. We, didn’t join Canada until 01April1949
April Fools Day 1949. Did someone in authority have a sense of humour or a complete lack of knowledge about April Fools Day? 😮
Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
@@markfryer9880 there was a very short leader in Newfoundland leading the charge. Watch "The Shipping News" and I couldn't believe how the film NAILED that island. As Rick Mercer, a native, would say, it's the perfect combination of politics.....and comedy.........and throw in the booze. Lots of it. In fact, a LOT in common with Australia.
The jet stream was not really understood until after WW2. What they were looking for was basically highs and lows that were understood to move west to east in those latitudes. With surface winds they could track the highs and lows coming into the Atlantic.
There was at least one other ground operation in North America when the Germans landed agents on the coast that were quickly captured.
Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)
Your comment about the jetstream is not entirely correct. During most of WWII it was being encountered for the first time, especially by the B-29 crews over Japan. During their high altitude missions they found themselves facing the problems of either zero ground speed or barrelling along at 600 mph. Neither option was good and there was no way that the Norden bombsight could deal with such variables. These difficulties helped persuade General Le May to change tactics and to go down lower and at night, and then to start with fire bombing raids.
In one of my books on the B-29, a navigator relates how he encountered the jetstream and after some calculations he decided to give his pilots a single course to fly back home to their base. I can't recall which specific one it was, Guam, Tinian or Siapan. His test was successful and not only did they bisect the airfield, but they were one of the first crews home. His technique became known post war in the Strategic Air Command by the title Pressure Pattern Navigation.
Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺😢
@@markfryer9880 You prove my point. The jet stream was not even forecasted or understood to be the driving force we now know about until late 44 when first encountered by the B-29 crews that finally flew high enough to encounter the strong upper-level jet stream.. And the equipment the Germans left that is the basis for this story did not have the ability to measure anything but surface winds so they were not measuring the jet stream. Radiosondes were few and far between and did not measure winds much above 500mb because they were tracked visually. The pictures of folks launching weather balloons during the war were not high altitude balloons.
Just amazed at the range of the Germans in the war and the ingenuity of their equipment.
Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)
One of the German Surface Raiders, The Cormorant,
a modified 12:17 merchant ship with concealed gun batteries, caught the RAN cruiser Sydney of guard and sank her off the coast of Western Australia, before she herself sank/was scuttled and the crew later captured. There were no survivors from the Sydney. 😢
Both vessels were discovered just a couple of years ago.
Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
Never ceases to amaze what the Germans have done.
Same! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)
During WW2 Labrador and Newfoundland were independent and NOT part of Canada but still part of the British Empire.
At 5:20 you correctly point out that Newfoundland/Labrador was a Dominion of Britain, so why the misinformation in the title the title "Secret German Weather Station in *Canada* "?
Labradors was part or the province of Quebec, the land was given away to Newfoundland in 1949. By the way Canada is part of North America… thus the country called America does not exist, never existed.
Relax....
@@pittsky no Labrador was never a part of Quebec
The Privy Council of England settled the issue in 1927 when they ruled that the ‘coast ‘ of Labrador , that is from the sea to the hight of land , and/ or the top of the watershed that runs eastward , was part of Newfoundland. Essentially Quebec owned the land it inherited from the Hudson Bay Company, all that land that drained into Hudson Bay. So the Coast was interpreted as from the hight of land to the Ocean.
Newfoundland had always had trade and business ties to Newfoundland. And Newfoundland annually sent a travelling judge who settled disputes in Labrador. So that’s why The Privy Council ruled Labrador was part of the country of Newfoundland.
@@pittsky
By the channel's name the content creator appears to want to to build a channel to present history. If so then they need to check their facts. If they want a channel like the 'Dark xxxx" series of entertainment channels that present events loosely based on historical facts then this is good enough.
@@gibraltersteamboatco888 Yup. Stopped watching any of the "Dark" franchise content, and anything Simon Whistler - just content mills that regularly spit out bad information. Too bad really because I tend to like their subject matter overall.
Very Interesting, Thanks..
Thanks for watching and have a great weekend :)
Love U-Boats!
Any idea about a u-boat in Saanich Inlet in BC during WW2? I'm certain it happened. There was a tree with the top shot off of it by a deck gun
I will have to look into that!
My guy👍👍
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@@HiddenHistoryYT you too bro
Truth is stranger than fiction.
Agreed! Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)
Was not Canada then.
I always thought Labrador was named after the labrador retriever…
Other way round. The dog breed was developed there and then spread around the world.
Newfoundland. Not Canada.
As your errors have been pointed out why not pull video and correct it, I guess it wouldn't be so dramatic if you were accurate.
The Germans came to Canada in droves after ww2
Also during WW2 they were stationed in Canada... as POWs.
Where I am today (Columbia valley in BC) German is virtually the second language (Austrian, Swiss, German). Job CREATORS, entrepreneurs, machine and mechanic shops, ranches with Simmental and Charolais cattle. Did I mention JOB creators?? i.e. NOT arriving in Canada to GAME the system. Contributors, not TAKERS. No tats, no coke, no pot, no vape....ok, so a few Bitcoin mines!!!
As well as their Ukrainian Bandera sympathizers.
Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)
well clearly you cant keep a secret
haha. Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)
I lost count of how many times "nazi" was said. Wasn't the nazi party a political party? I wonder if every German soldier carried a card of affiliation.
Exactly!
Not everyone was a nazi,but the nazis certainly made all the orders,and expected the non- nazis to carry them out.At the head of the gov,you had nazis barking out all of the orders!
Since the Nazi Party’s control of Germany was complete it does make sense to refer to this station as “Nazi.”
Puuuulllleeeees
Ausweis, bitte.
Do you suppose that the Nazi weather station that was not to be, may have been meant to be situated on Sable Island?
GOD makes zero mistakes period.
I would submit Donald J Trump as a horrible mistake or a very cruel joke God is playing on us.
Too much use of the N-word in this video to be taken seriously.
huh