excellent video ... but to be fair to u570 ... justice would have been to go to the bottom of the ocean where they belonged. ... instead they received mercy through their commander's mental fault ...
I cannot be the only one who marvels at this: U-boats didn't have toilets that worked when submerged ... but ... they had sherry glasses!? What an odd way to allocate their luxury points, so to say.
Thank you for telling the whole story of U570! I always thought that boat should have been kept as a museum piece, but during the war, no one was looking at things that way. Britain was fighting for her very survival! It is more fitting that she ended up as a wreck, rather than to be broken up for razor blades….
What a great story of The World War II German Navy Sub U570 and your narration was excellent and easy to follow. I was happy to subscribe and look forward to other videos in your line up. Thanks for all your work to bring these stories to us.
On 1 February 1942, the Enigma messages began to be encoded using a new Enigma version that had been brought into use. The previous 3-rotor Enigma model had been modified with the old reflector replaced by a thin rotor and a new thin reflector.
Just cause the captain, was in a mental institution, doesn't mean he was incapable of running, a submarine. Mental health, is one thing. Common sense is another. Knowing you have zero chance hor survival, against all odds, and dying for zero reason, what's the point?? I'd give up too, before uselessly, losing my life.
The British wouldn’t have spares for a German submarine. Which explains it’s short British service. That it was commissioned into the Royal Navy is remarkable. I’m sure American submariner officers and naval engineers got a good examination of U-570. In particular the superiority of German optics
Yes they did indeed. e.g. they found out, that the U-boats are able to dive more than 170 meters and therefore adapted the water depth charges to these depths.
There would have been no point. The German crew radioed their situation to the German naval high-command, destroyed their radio, smashed their Enigma machine, and dumped its parts overboard along with the boat's secret papers. Admiral Dönitz later noted in his war diary that he ordered U-boats in the area to go to U-570's assistance after receiving this report; U-82 responded, but RAF air patrols prevented U-82 from reaching U-570.
Press idiots let out that the US had advance knowledge of midway, and that Japanese were setting their depth charge too shallow in relation to sonar depth readings. Of course, the Japanese should have deduced something from the fact that all three available us carriers were on station to meet them
Murphy's War is an 1971 film starring Peter O'Toole and Siân Phillips. It was directed by Peter Yates based on the 1969 novel by Max Catto. The film is set in Orinoco river actual Venezuela during World War II and focuses on a stubborn survivor of a sunken merchant ship who is consumed in his quest for revenge and retribution against the German submarine that sank his ship.
My uncle who was Admiral George McFadden O'Rear who commanded the USS Arkansas at the battle of Iwo Jima commanded on of the first US submarines and my great great uncle was Lt. Richard Sauffley commanded on the first submarines and was one of the original naval pilots and was the first naval pilot ever fired at in combat at the battle of Veracruz . Pensacola Naval Air Station is named Sauffley Field in his honor.
Not so, the crew of U570 dumped their enigma machine overboard, along with all signals and code books etc. You are thinking of the action of HMS Bulldog who captured U110 in 1941 along with an enigma machine and the code books. Capturing the enigma machine was pivotal but it only helped as the enigma rotors and codes were changed frequently and Bletchley Park often could not decode German naval transmissions in time to be of any use. The Battle of the Atlantic dragged on for another 4 years almost.
It is perhaps not harsh to describe you're portrait of the U boat captain as unflattering and his fellow imprisoned officer s were well aware that the enemy should never be allowed to capture such a vessel,The consequences could be catastrophic and in this case via the enigma machine surely we're,
There are several comments about Enigma machine capture here which I find confusing. As far as I am aware British sailors from HMS Bulldog captured the first naval Enigma machine from U-110 in the North Atlantic in May 1941, seven months before the United States entered the war and three years before the US Navy captured U-505 and its Enigma machine. Are people connecting the capture of the U-570 submarine with the fictional U-571 Holywood film that was only loosely based on occurences during WW2?
Several enigma were captured by the allies. The Poles had a diplomatic enigma machine. German Naval enigma were captured in 1939 (Spy trawler) and 1941 (U-559) by the Royal Navy. U-570 destroyed it's enigma but was otherwise salvaged intact. US Navy captured U-505 (Type IX) in 1944.
She did carry out two RN patrols after being repaired and her capabilities thoroughly examined. She was decommissioned in June, 1943, and, after further depth charge testing, in March 1944 she was wrecked whilst being towed to a scrapyard on the Clyde.
War is indeed a ruthless affair and allowed an opinion i would suggest that as you explained details this U boat Captain should surely have scuttled the vessel whatever the loss of life, i say this because if he had he would have prevented the death s of thousands ofGerman sailors and civilians as the English wouldn't have been able to compromise the naval Enigma to the extent they eventually did,
This could be 100% accurate but I personally would not use it for anything more than a good tale based on a real event. In fairness, history is written by the victors. There is one story I believe is true which was not widely published, that being 3 days before a planned military action, the US high command approved a sub torpedoing A Japanese ship instead of saying "hang back and just observe." (My capital A was intended here.) The sub got sunk. The high command figured some action would mask that the US had plans (to attack the convey or major shipping lane.) Needless loss of life.
I do believe the whole crew did the right thing, better to live than to die. They were sick, and did not have any experience. So yes, give up and live. Better than to die.
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No. It, and the codes, were destroyed before surface ships arrived. The capture could not be concealed, but her captain had radioed his HQ that all confidential documents and equipment had been disposed of.
@@beowulf1312 I ask you phrase that as liberal minded Hollywood do themselves a disservice. Most Americans like myself, especially history minded, would want the truth brought forth. Just as in The Great Escape, where the Americans weren't as involved as portrayed and should had been written out later as they were deployed to other stalags months before the escape.
It doesn't make sense that the Brits publicized they had captured the sub, since the Germans would then know they had also captured an enigma machine and they'd change the codes.
Murphy's War is an 1971 film starring Peter O'Toole and Siân Phillips. It was directed by Peter Yates based on the 1969 novel by Max Catto. The film is set in Orinoco river actual Venezuela during World War II and focuses on a stubborn survivor of a sunken merchant ship who is consumed in his quest for revenge and retribution against the German submarine that sank his ship.
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excellent video ... but to be fair to u570 ... justice would have been to go to the bottom of the ocean where they belonged.
... instead they received mercy through their commander's mental fault ...
My Dad, a naval officer in WW2, was given four sherry glasses from the wardroom of U 570 as a prize. I still have three of them.
Extremely cool and thank you to him for his service!
Wow what a prize.
I cannot be the only one who marvels at this: U-boats didn't have toilets that worked when submerged ... but ... they had sherry glasses!? What an odd way to allocate their luxury points, so to say.
Thank you for telling the whole story of U570! I always thought that boat should have been kept as a museum piece, but during the war, no one was looking at things that way. Britain was fighting for her very survival!
It is more fitting that she ended up as a wreck, rather than to be broken up for razor blades….
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Thanks HIDDEN HISTORY.This is one of the wildest stories of WW2.
Thank you Mark!
@HiddenHistoryYT You are always welcome HIDDEN HISTORY.
What a great story of The World War II German Navy Sub U570 and your narration was excellent and easy to follow. I was happy to subscribe and look forward to other videos in your line up. Thanks for all your work to bring these stories to us.
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Another fascinating story from WWII that I’ve never heard of. Very well told, subbed.
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thanks for this unknown gem of ww2 history!
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On 1 February 1942, the Enigma messages began to be encoded using a new Enigma version that had been brought into use. The previous 3-rotor Enigma model had been modified with the old reflector replaced by a thin rotor and a new thin reflector.
Thanks Dad!
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Boy, that had a whole bunch of twist and turns! Thanks for the stories!
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Just cause the captain, was in a mental institution, doesn't mean he was incapable of running, a submarine. Mental health, is one thing. Common sense is another. Knowing you have zero chance hor survival, against all odds, and dying for zero reason, what's the point?? I'd give up too, before uselessly, losing my life.
The British wouldn’t have spares for a German submarine. Which explains it’s short British service. That it was commissioned into the Royal Navy is remarkable. I’m sure American submariner officers and naval engineers got a good examination of U-570. In particular the superiority of German optics
Yes they did indeed. e.g. they found out, that the U-boats are able to dive more than 170 meters and therefore adapted the water depth charges to these depths.
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Why was the capture of an intact German submarine broadcast in the newspapers. That should have been top secret and the crew sequestered.
There would have been no point. The German crew radioed their situation to the German naval high-command, destroyed their radio, smashed their Enigma machine, and dumped its parts overboard along with the boat's secret papers. Admiral Dönitz later noted in his war diary that he ordered U-boats in the area to go to U-570's assistance after receiving this report; U-82 responded, but RAF air patrols prevented U-82 from reaching U-570.
Press idiots let out that the US had advance knowledge of midway, and that Japanese were setting their depth charge too shallow in relation to sonar depth readings.
Of course, the Japanese should have deduced something from the fact that all three available us carriers were on station to meet them
@@joechang8696 That not press idiots. It's the naval command that don't know how to guard their secrets.
Loose lips @@ozmaniac101
And why was the Hudson trying to depth charge it?
As a kid living near Chicago, I used to go to the Museum of Science and Industry to see the U505
I've been there. It's awesome
Me too. And the coal mine.
It’s amazing isn’t it? I can’t believe (very brave) men went in to battle in that thing. I got claustrophobic walking through it on dry land.
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Murphy's War is an 1971 film starring Peter O'Toole and Siân Phillips. It was directed by Peter Yates based on the 1969 novel by Max Catto.
The film is set in Orinoco river actual Venezuela during World War II and focuses on a stubborn survivor of a sunken merchant ship who is consumed in his quest for revenge and retribution against the German submarine that sank his ship.
I live a few miles from grizedale hall and wish id knew about it being a pow camp years ago
Very cool!
Amazing story, many thanks for this video 👍
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Great story, thanks!
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11:43 - Those pictures of a TypeVII were taken in Scotland near Fazlane, or Greenock.
For more on U-570, I recommend HM U-Boat by John Drummond 1958. Enthralling.
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My uncle who was Admiral George McFadden O'Rear who commanded the USS Arkansas at the battle of Iwo Jima commanded on of the first US submarines and my great great uncle was Lt. Richard Sauffley commanded on the first submarines and was one of the original naval pilots and was the first naval pilot ever fired at in combat at the battle of Veracruz . Pensacola Naval Air Station is named Sauffley Field in his honor.
Incredible! Thank you to him for his service!
The Commander should have been held responsible for everything that happened to U-570. The Junior Officers had no power to control those events.
there is an awful lot of this story that has been missed out and some other stuff is incorrect
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This was the beginning of the end for Atlantic War as the enigma machine was deciferd. Happy New Year everyone!
Not so, the crew of U570 dumped their enigma machine overboard, along with all signals and code books etc. You are thinking of the action of HMS Bulldog who captured U110 in 1941 along with an enigma machine and the code books. Capturing the enigma machine was pivotal but it only helped as the enigma rotors and codes were changed frequently and Bletchley Park often could not decode German naval transmissions in time to be of any use. The Battle of the Atlantic dragged on for another 4 years almost.
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Didnt learn this in social studies...
You left out the part about Matthew McConaughey, being the hero that captured the sub!
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Great film footage on the sub
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very cool
It is perhaps not harsh to describe you're portrait of the U boat captain as unflattering and his fellow imprisoned officer s were well aware that the enemy should never be allowed to capture such a vessel,The consequences could be catastrophic and in this case via the enigma machine surely we're,
There are several comments about Enigma machine capture here which I find confusing. As far as I am aware British sailors from HMS Bulldog captured the first naval Enigma machine from U-110 in the North Atlantic in May 1941, seven months before the United States entered the war and three years before the US Navy captured U-505 and its Enigma machine. Are people connecting the capture of the U-570 submarine with the fictional U-571 Holywood film that was only loosely based on occurences during WW2?
I have no difficulty believing the general public perceives movies to be the same as listening in history class.
Very interesting local history
Barrow wow that's where we make our subs today
prob go to barrow this summer
What happened to the code books and enigma machine?
The crew broke them up and tossed them overboard.
I do enjoy a good war story!
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Several enigma were captured by the allies. The Poles had a diplomatic enigma machine. German Naval enigma were captured in 1939 (Spy trawler) and 1941 (U-559) by the Royal Navy. U-570 destroyed it's enigma but was otherwise salvaged intact. US Navy captured U-505 (Type IX) in 1944.
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Seaworthy and Battle worthy? Really?! Then British censors allowed the capture to be advertised?! I’m not tracking…
She did carry out two RN patrols after being repaired and her capabilities thoroughly examined. She was decommissioned in June, 1943, and, after further depth charge testing, in March 1944 she was wrecked whilst being towed to a scrapyard on the Clyde.
When the U boat surfaced it showed the numbers 38 on the side of the conning tower not 570
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You can have the best weapon system out there, if it is manned by cowards and muppets with ZERO experience, will always get defeated.
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why did they publish the capture,,you are giving the whole point of catching the sub and codebook away
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War is indeed a ruthless affair and allowed an opinion i would suggest that as you explained details this U boat Captain should surely have scuttled the vessel whatever the loss of life, i say this because if he had he would have prevented the death s of thousands ofGerman sailors and civilians as the English wouldn't have been able to compromise the naval Enigma to the extent they eventually did,
Oscar for Matthew MConathey !
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This could be 100% accurate but I personally would not use it for anything more than a good tale based on a real event. In fairness, history is written by the victors.
There is one story I believe is true which was not widely published, that being 3 days before a planned military action, the US high command approved a sub torpedoing A Japanese ship instead of saying "hang back and just observe." (My capital A was intended here.) The sub got sunk. The high command figured some action would mask that the US had plans (to attack the convey or major shipping lane.) Needless loss of life.
I do believe the whole crew did the right thing, better to live than to die. They were sick, and did not have any experience. So yes, give up and live. Better than to die.
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Pronounced 'I lay'
"luckily most of the.303 bullets missed". Who's side you on pal?
As a POW I’d have chased my old crazy superiors , what happened , happened , end of .
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I wonder what happened to the awful captain
A Jonah for sure!!!
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Seasickness affects you in several stages: 1) you feel nauseous 2) you vomit repeatedly 3) you start to worry that you are going to die 4) you become convinced that you are going to die then worst of all 5) you start to worry that you aren't going to die and the suffering will continue. Spike Milligan said that there was only one certain cure for seasickness which is to sit underneath a tree!
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Your empty-handed army is all going home..."
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"sunken" ???
And no mention of Ultra. Newer versions of this story should address the subject.
Well he did mention the Enigma machine, rotors and code books.
Lástima el idioma. Por eso no lo veo
Ahh unfortunate!
tRondheim not Tondheim
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So, was the enigma machine captured?
Of course it captured and was very useful the rest of the war !
No. It, and the codes, were destroyed before surface ships arrived. The capture could not be concealed, but her captain had radioed his HQ that all confidential documents and equipment had been disposed of.
@@donholmes3267 The video did not state that it was or was not captured during this incident. We did get a few, but not at this time.
@@dovetonsturdee7033 Thank you.
U-570 should have returned to base immediately once the hydrophones malfunctioned...or even sooner because of the engine troubles.
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A classic FUBAR!!! It's good to have a plan but always be aware that you can be a victim of the dreaded FUBAR.
Wouldnt it be risky to put a English flag on a German Uboat and sail around? Feels like the first aircraft would have bombed it?
Kangaroo court by these fine German specimens.
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they should have set off the demolition charges during scuttling
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That sounds dreadful! 😂
I'm sure I've read of this case previously...
Oh ya 😂
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Did U570 dink any axis ships as a British Submarine
No, she carried out three patrols as HMS Graph, but she was due to be broken up due to there being no spares, but she ran aground.
sadly no en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Graph
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What happened to the Enigma?
Surely Tom Cruise was involved somehow?
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I tried to watch a Hollywood movie about U570. The British had nothing to do with this, only Americans 😂😂
Typical. The Americans do themselves a disservice by writing out the contributions of their allies even to the present day.
@@beowulf1312 I ask you phrase that as liberal minded Hollywood do themselves a disservice. Most Americans like myself, especially history minded, would want the truth brought forth. Just as in The Great Escape, where the Americans weren't as involved as portrayed and should had been written out later as they were deployed to other stalags months before the escape.
Ya it’s terrible 😂
not exactly completely accurate and a lot of missing relevant info as well, worth people reading up on the complete story
What has Oskar Heinz Kusch got to do with the story of U570?
Like #666. Woooo!
I got a picture of it manned by US Sailors going through Cape Cod Canal
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It doesn't make sense that the Brits publicized they had captured the sub, since the Germans would then know they had also captured an enigma machine and they'd change the codes.
The crew had many hours to dispose on the Enigma machine. No Enigma was captured.
Murphy's War is an 1971 film starring Peter O'Toole and Siân Phillips. It was directed by Peter Yates based on the 1969 novel by Max Catto.
The film is set in Orinoco river actual Venezuela during World War II and focuses on a stubborn survivor of a sunken merchant ship who is consumed in his quest for revenge and retribution against the German submarine that sank his ship.
Appreciate you watching and have a great week :)