I just fit 1 1/4 straight out , i know its not upto regulation, but i hardly ever come across frozen condense pipes anymore. Its was a good earner years ago when ppl just stuck overflow outside , but them days have gone ,i feel
ten of thousands froze in 2018 and the papers were asking why it not been sorted for the problems we had in 2011, it best practice to comply to protect warranty and also its being picked up but gas safe, condensate pro just make it all easy and has everything to solve the problems for with protecting condensate
My condensate pipe has just frozen up as it was -10° here last night. Looks like a good system, but a bit pricy for me (a home DIYer). I think I'll install some class O lagging and potentially look to paint it. Are the two coats of paint simply to improve waterproofing of the lagging Allen? Thanks!
Another brilliant video Hi Allan, currently work 12 years in at "you know where" same as you did, going self employed in 2021, any advice you can give me? Thanks and keep up the good work
Good morning Allen ,you stated that you used to use another type of lagging with presumably no problems,or you would have stopped using it . Standards are a good thing but sometimes I think they are there for a cash generating exercise. Rules have to be there but at the same time they must make sense or people will ignore them and perhaps some that really matter.for instance I notice further down someone had stated they used 1.25 inch pipe throughout ( so did I years ago) , but this was not to the current standard . Surely for standards to mean anything there must be a reason why this is not now acceptable There may be ideas and work practices out there that are better than the stated current standards but these are wrong and the standard is correct .
The installation instructions used to say lagging, Then it seemed to be updated to class O lagging, Then Class O waterproof lagging. The point is class O lagging isn’t correct unless you paint it, You also need to paint it twice. You could do that yourself at home and the ones I have done in the past will be treated when I return for a service. Thanks.
Product seems good however it is just very neat lagging. I like to keep mine inside even if it means pumping it. Nice way of termination if needed though 👍
neat lagging the dose the job that others don't if you try to fit to the correct standards, Have a look at all the problems with the rest and we have solved them, yes if you just stick some cheap lagging and don't bother sealing or protecting but is that the right way to leave a customer and look at is when you finished, would you want that mess on you home and I few years will be useless, All that's bee taken care and helps you fit a perfect job in 30min
Do you not think this is abit expensive for what it is? You could install 32mm all the way with a heat cable with outdoor temp sensor which fires up when temp drops outside for less that 1/4 the price of this... I like the product but living in bradford customers will not pay that price
For a standard job 1m to drain would be around £25 the £6 every other 1m, saves time on install as is takes 30m max / nothing looks as good on the market ,
any heat trace if fitted correctly would cost a lot more and under Regs still need to be insulated, we found heat trace had problems and also cracked the plastic pipe if not fitted correctly
Good videos thanks for your work. I started to follow you from Spain, but not even English is not good yet, would it be very difficult for you to include Spanish subtitles in your videos? Thanks for your time
Getting the condensate out is a pain in the bum. It's not our everyday wastewater. It is acidic. Most plumbers I know seem to be happy to feed it into the kitchen sink mechanism.
Internal connection used to be recommended,it stopped freezing but you did sometimes get blockages from all the stuff going down the sink waste .Had a call out once to an Ideal ISAR .They had connected the condensate above the sink trap,The customer had been away on holiday come home ,and the very shallow trap on that boiler must have dried out I was actually getting a reading ofproducts of combustion up the kitchen sink .Got the installer to move it below the trap pronto.
Looks great ..... However, wouldn’t 50mm waste pipe be cheaper and not freeze .... #askingforafriend If anyone else has already said this then ‘sorry’.... I don’t see the need to insulate the condensate pipe work, but if it’s now part of the compliance of installation, I fall on my sword. Worcester lovers won’t be interested as they have the condensure thingys 🤣🤣
I dont think frozen condensate is a big problem like it once was. Most Boiler manufacturers seem to be overcoming the problem by having larger condensate traps in ther boilers which dont empty as often and they empty quite fast.ive never had a frozen condensate on a newly designed boiler
hi Shaun, most condensate trap are 100 ml and when they empty they only trickle ( we have a video on this ) they were a massive problem in 2018 when all manufactures we inundated with frozen condensate
Please check our Condensate Pro youtube channel. ruclips.net/channel/UCrYdcm065L_x202PfvjJvHQ
I just fit 1 1/4 straight out , i know its not upto regulation, but i hardly ever come across frozen condense pipes anymore. Its was a good earner years ago when ppl just stuck overflow outside , but them days have gone ,i feel
We cannot choose which parts of the installation instructions we follow 😂😂😂😂❤👍 Thanks for the comment though.
ten of thousands froze in 2018 and the papers were asking why it not been sorted for the problems we had in 2011, it best practice to comply to protect warranty and also its being picked up but gas safe, condensate pro just make it all easy and has everything to solve the problems for with protecting condensate
My condensate pipe has just frozen up as it was -10° here last night. Looks like a good system, but a bit pricy for me (a home DIYer). I think I'll install some class O lagging and potentially look to paint it. Are the two coats of paint simply to improve waterproofing of the lagging Allen? Thanks!
Another brilliant video
Hi Allan, currently work 12 years in at "you know where" same as you did, going self employed in 2021, any advice you can give me? Thanks and keep up the good work
DTMs Reef my advice would be stay were you are if possible. Hard times out here at the moment 👍
Great product Allen.🌟👍
Good morning Allen ,you stated that you used to use another type of lagging with presumably no problems,or you would have stopped using it . Standards are a good thing but sometimes I think they are there for a cash generating exercise. Rules have to be there but at the same time they must make sense or people will ignore them and perhaps some that really matter.for instance I notice further down someone had stated they used 1.25 inch pipe throughout ( so did I years ago) , but this was not to the current standard . Surely for standards to mean anything there must be a reason why this is not now acceptable There may be ideas and work practices out there that are better than the stated current standards but these are wrong and the standard is correct .
The installation instructions used to say lagging, Then it seemed to be updated to class O lagging, Then Class O waterproof lagging. The point is class O lagging isn’t correct unless you paint it, You also need to paint it twice. You could do that yourself at home and the ones I have done in the past will be treated when I return for a service. Thanks.
Product seems good however it is just very neat lagging. I like to keep mine inside even if it means pumping it. Nice way of termination if needed though 👍
Thanks for watching!
neat lagging the dose the job that others don't if you try to fit to the correct standards, Have a look at all the problems with the rest and we have solved them, yes if you just stick some cheap lagging and don't bother sealing or protecting but is that the right way to leave a customer and look at is when you finished, would you want that mess on you home and I few years will be useless, All that's bee taken care and helps you fit a perfect job in 30min
Very informative thanks Alan.
Do you not think this is abit expensive for what it is? You could install 32mm all the way with a heat cable with outdoor temp sensor which fires up when temp drops outside for less that 1/4 the price of this...
I like the product but living in bradford customers will not pay that price
Brendan Fisher How much do you think it costs?
For a standard job 1m to drain would be around £25 the £6 every other 1m, saves time on install as is takes 30m max / nothing looks as good on the market ,
any heat trace if fitted correctly would cost a lot more and under Regs still need to be insulated, we found heat trace had problems and also cracked the plastic pipe if not fitted correctly
Just picked up the whole kit. its proper kit mate I'm with you if its the standard ...im on it.
Morning buddy stay safe, it’s a great looking product, I’ll definitely be trying one at some point
Morning Nick. Hope you are well. Thanks.
As always allan smashing 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
I normally just run the condensate in inch 1/2. Through the wall and into the soil stack. Is this not allowed then?
You would need to check with the installation instructions of the boiler you install but nearly all the ones I have seen need to be lagged.
Hi Allen, could you send a link for your waste pipe slices, cheers
Good videos thanks for your work. I started to follow you from Spain, but not even English is not good yet, would it be very difficult for you to include Spanish subtitles in your videos? Thanks for your time
Great suggestion!
Makes a pain in the backside job into a doddle 👍🤓👍🍰
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Getting the condensate out is a pain in the bum. It's not our everyday wastewater. It is acidic.
Most plumbers I know seem to be happy to feed it into the kitchen sink mechanism.
Running internal can be better sometimes. Depends on installation instructions. Thanks.
All the bleach and god knows what I dont think it matters
galaxydave69 I used to use 1 1/2 but it doesn’t comply unfortunately, Still needs lagging, depending on installation instructions
Internal connection used to be recommended,it stopped freezing but you did sometimes get blockages from all the stuff going down the sink waste .Had a call out once to an Ideal ISAR .They had connected the condensate above the sink trap,The customer had been away on holiday come home ,and the very shallow trap on that boiler must have dried out I was actually getting a reading ofproducts of combustion up the kitchen sink .Got the installer to move it below the trap pronto.
I bet there was a funky smell from that! You'd never expect a boiler to smell like a drain normally!
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Looks great .....
However, wouldn’t 50mm waste pipe be cheaper and not freeze ....
#askingforafriend
If anyone else has already said this then ‘sorry’.... I don’t see the need to insulate the condensate pipe work, but if it’s now part of the compliance of installation, I fall on my sword.
Worcester lovers won’t be interested as they have the condensure thingys 🤣🤣
You would need to check out the installation instructions for the boilers you install. Building regs say the condensate needs lagging. Thanks.
ruclips.net/video/h8gsasdfEfs/видео.html
and the Worcester condensure thingys 😁 still advises that you must insulate the external pipework
I dont think frozen condensate is a big problem like it once was. Most Boiler manufacturers seem to be overcoming the problem by having larger condensate traps in ther boilers which dont empty as often and they empty quite fast.ive never had a frozen condensate on a newly designed boiler
As a Gas Engineer we need to follow the installation instructions and in most cases, they ask for all external condensate pipe to be lagged. Thanks.
@@AllenHart999 even in 1 1/2
galaxydave69 Still needs lagging 👍
hi Shaun, most condensate trap are 100 ml and when they empty they only trickle ( we have a video on this ) they were a massive problem in 2018 when all manufactures we inundated with frozen condensate
vimeo.com/430485996
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