How to STOP your condense pipe freezing

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  • Опубликовано: 25 окт 2024

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  • @plumberparts
    @plumberparts  2 года назад +4

    Hope you enjoyed this video, and it helped you out a little🥰
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  • @effervescence5664
    @effervescence5664 2 года назад +13

    Also as stated in building regs you could have the condense increased to 1" 1/4. Or which ever option is listed in the manufacturers instructions that came with the boiler.

    • @TrickyTree84
      @TrickyTree84 Год назад

      Didn't help last week when it was -10

    • @chapman9230
      @chapman9230 Год назад

      Good grief is it still imperial surely not?

    • @stamfordmeetup
      @stamfordmeetup 10 месяцев назад

      agreed, my ppe is 32mm and never had a problem even when it got -15c.

  • @skeletonkey6733
    @skeletonkey6733 Год назад +4

    Great content im ex-forces and find the problem-solving aspect of both plumbing and sparks so interesting thanks for sharing and worked a treat for me. Thanks, mate also feel good that with sound instruction I could not only remedy but employ measures to prevent occurring in the future.

    • @plumberparts
      @plumberparts  Год назад +1

      Top work!

    • @Viewer765
      @Viewer765 8 месяцев назад

      @@plumberparts for cold pipes with condensation inside would you use this grey insulation or aramflex you used in another video

  • @DrAppy01
    @DrAppy01 2 года назад +2

    Hi James, hoping you’ll make a video on how to keep your house warm. Help us understand electric heaters and some places also have gas heating. I’m a noob and would like to learn!

  • @WestieWestie
    @WestieWestie Месяц назад

    Lovely video. Thank you. If the condensate pipe is longer than 3m, what should you do? Is that when a soakaway is necessary?

  • @stuboyevp72
    @stuboyevp72 2 года назад +1

    Great Informative videos, just did some heat trace a couple of weeks back insulated in armaflex on a feed pipe and waste to a garage just missed out on this video.... the manufacturer recommended to foil tape plastic pipes and then to foil over trace on the waste pipe as it obviously doesn't carry water all the time. Also they recommended covering the thermostat with the lagging to give it a true temperature reading. I read the constructions for once 😆

  • @sithemperorpalpatine870
    @sithemperorpalpatine870 2 года назад +4

    Also, if you get alot of sunlight in the area that your condense pipe is located, you can paint your pipe black to absorb the sunlight and keep you pipe warmer than that air.

    • @andy0175
      @andy0175 2 года назад +6

      Unless it freezes at night👌

  • @theforesttroll
    @theforesttroll 2 года назад +3

    I'm studying hvac/plumming/whatever it's called in english, anyway my teacher actually recommended your channel! And I can see why this is very easy to follow, you add small details that are worth gold to think about while out working and you're just pleasant to listen to! Thank you bunches for making these videos

  • @carolanncrafting
    @carolanncrafting Год назад +1

    Very helpful and easy to understand. Thankyou .

  • @garnhamr
    @garnhamr Год назад

    Are those screws big enough for the thermostat? i need to be sure it wont fall off

  • @johnburrell2655
    @johnburrell2655 Год назад

    Excellent presentation straight forward and some humour added in,well done.

  • @PreNeanderthal
    @PreNeanderthal Год назад

    Can you use it on a copper feed (and plastic outlet) to a washing machine which is located in an unheated back porch? And, must you insulate if you can't create gap behind as copper pipe was installed by a plumber?

  • @bordersw1239
    @bordersw1239 2 года назад +6

    As heat rises, it makes more sense to put the wire underneath the condensate pipe.

    • @ZoMB1e94
      @ZoMB1e94 Год назад

      @Manic Miner so it leaks because of condensation? And that would mess with the wire? Just tryin to understand

  • @gohomeroger8838
    @gohomeroger8838 Год назад

    @plumberparts why exactly shouldn't you un-freeze the condense pipe with boiling water?

  • @naime1339
    @naime1339 Год назад

    Is it the correct size for condensing pipe outside?

  • @andybrown169
    @andybrown169 Год назад +4

    Why don’t you put an inline tee inside the property with a emergency valve to a container that can be used in case of freezing ?

    • @SamLTate
      @SamLTate 10 месяцев назад

      Our boiler just drains into a loose pipe which then goes outside, somewhat like some styles of washing machine drain, so if it freezes, it just slightly overflows into the garage lol. I've insulated the pipe now and added a leak sensor but I can't really fault the original builders: the garage is a bare concrete floor and everything is stored off the floor: it can take a little moisuture.

  • @chapman9230
    @chapman9230 Год назад

    You may need a special foil tape to go over the trace heating wire when using with plastic condensate pipe. It is very expensive stuff.

  • @edwarddoyle9231
    @edwarddoyle9231 Год назад

    Hi James, i have installed trace heating tape over the years - on larger systems - it’s actually 10w per ft, but this is the first time that I’ve seen a small kit available - good idea - i would add a few point’s that worry’s me , #1. The thermostat you used in your video has the temperature adjustment exposed - this unit i would put in an waterproof box suitable for outside , it will sense the temperature change just the same & be safe - #2. Trace heating tape can be cut & resealed with special heat shrink sleeve from your electrical provider. Good information video. Ed,

  • @soyabean911
    @soyabean911 Год назад

    Absolutely love this video. Never knew such a thing existed. Any idea what and where to buy an external type foam insulation? I imagine it's the black stuff that the AC engineers use? Hold tight. 👊🏼

  • @robertapreston4200
    @robertapreston4200 2 года назад

    oh mu plumber man... how do you sit with your knees like that????
    😳😪😳yikes!!!!
    well done, as ALWAYS! 🤗👍👍❤ YOU ARE SO HILARIOUS😅😂 thank you

  • @davehunter6920
    @davehunter6920 2 года назад +6

    should outside condense pipes not be in inch and a quarter?

    • @plumberparts
      @plumberparts  2 года назад +2

      Depends. What they 'should' be and what my viewers have to deal with are two different things! 😂

    • @davehunter6920
      @davehunter6920 2 года назад +2

      @@plumberparts I know over here ( Northern Ireland ) building control will insist on 32 mm plus insulation

    • @socialpiratekeyboardwarrio6546
      @socialpiratekeyboardwarrio6546 2 года назад

      @@plumberparts great answer ❤

  • @quantumleaper2625
    @quantumleaper2625 Год назад

    If you don't wrap the pipe with the heat tape/trace/cable, the only thing I'd do differently is put it on the BOTTOM of the pipe... because heat rises... *especially* if you decide to not put insulation around it too.

  • @thomascoyne157
    @thomascoyne157 2 года назад +1

    Nice little tip there we go again (innuendos)😂😂😂
    👍👍👍👍👍

  • @Berry-fr5wj
    @Berry-fr5wj 2 года назад +1

    Saw you on Channel 5
    Homes under the hammer next, you have the persona for the telly if not deffo a part in Top Gun III

    • @rayc1503
      @rayc1503 2 года назад

      Martin's jimbo's father. They often get mistaken. Jimbo's much younger 😂.

  • @grrinc
    @grrinc 2 года назад +1

    Does condensate freeze quicker than regular water?

  • @tomsanders8714
    @tomsanders8714 2 года назад

    When I had my boiler installed I told them to keep the condense pipe inside and run it to the nearby sink waste. It's hostile to your brickwork but I guess this is another reason.

  • @allthegearuk
    @allthegearuk Год назад

    I see that the pipe is running to a grid, presumably. Mine just comes out the wall, 90 degree directly down and a 50mm length of pipe. So the condensate just drips on the ground. Is this a problem? It might not look great but it's such a short vertical run there's no chance of it freezing. Any reason the condensate pipe needs to run all the way to the grid? Could this cause any problems?

    • @allthegearuk
      @allthegearuk Год назад

      @@The_Invisible_Self Thanks for the reply. After a bit of digging and investigation I see my condensate pipe is inside and terminates at the sink. The pipe outside is from the pressure relief valve.

  • @LondonGas
    @LondonGas 2 года назад +2

    CondensatePro - designed for this very job. Weatherproof and UV resistant, already painted at factory.
    Comes with bond and seal for the joints and entry through the wall, which expand and contract with cold/heat.
    They recommend the rubber-lined munsens that clamps to the outside of the installation - that way there's no need to cut the insulation to accommodate the wrong clips. The insulation used in this video isn't suitable for external use, it'll persish in no time.
    Not a single call out for a frozen condenstae during the Beast From the East (Feb 2018) when using CondensatePro - just saying.

    • @plumberparts
      @plumberparts  2 года назад +2

      Thanks for the comment. Spot on with the insulation. The grey stuff (like I point out) isn’t suitable. Armaflex is better. 😎

  • @edfx
    @edfx Год назад

    It hits -35c here. We pump condensate into the drain, never let it drip outside.

    • @plumberparts
      @plumberparts  Год назад

      I wouldn't even go to the toilet outside!

  • @AgtX999
    @AgtX999 Год назад +1

    couldnt you just raise the rad water temperature setting so the boiler doesnt condense?

  • @askinator7850
    @askinator7850 2 года назад

    It'd be great if you could do a video on swapping a shower from a concealed shower to a bar mixer!

  • @magnus9701
    @magnus9701 Год назад

    anywhere to get trace as amazon sold out

  • @gemstar18
    @gemstar18 Год назад +1

    I just want to know where the pipe is in order to actually do this!!!

    • @plumberparts
      @plumberparts  Год назад

      Usually on the wall behind your boiler. Or very rarely into the waste pipe inside the house. Hope that helps! 👍

    • @gemstar18
      @gemstar18 Год назад

      @@plumberparts it does help! I can’t see any pipe outside but I can see that there is a plastic pipe running from the boiler in to the room behind which is the bathroom so perhaps it is merged with a waste pipe. My mum has no heating or hot water at the moment!

  • @yvonneshelton2505
    @yvonneshelton2505 Год назад

    Why don’t British Gas home care when they got boilers with outside piping do this.

  • @bimble7240
    @bimble7240 2 года назад

    Isn't 1 in 40 for 40mm pipes? So 21.5 needs to be a lot more, maybe 1 in 20, which is what you said in the video.

    • @UberAlphaSirus
      @UberAlphaSirus 2 года назад +1

      depends on load and aspiration levels. Condensate from a regular boiler is less ml/Hr than 1 Greta tear Per hour

  • @percyfaith11
    @percyfaith11 Год назад

    Cut the pipe an inch downstream from elbow. Go inside and cut and rejoin the pipe after turning it 90 degrees so that it drains vertically. No freezing can happen because the exterior pipe to too short for the water to freeze now.

    • @percyfaith11
      @percyfaith11 Год назад

      @@The_Invisible_Self well that's fine for the UK, but that's not everywhere. If it penetrates a one and a half inch rim joist it's not going to freeze. The water doesn't stay in the pipe it drains by gravity and it's much higher than room temperature so it's never going to freeze in that short distance.

  • @cypeman8037
    @cypeman8037 Год назад +1

    Crème de menthe. 😂😂😂 FFS.
    Crème de la crème maybe?

  • @rayc1503
    @rayc1503 2 года назад

    Ideally most manufacturers state the pipe run should be kept internal if at all possible and less the 3 metres. A condensate pump is a better option if the standard method isn't possible. If the condensate run is already in situe then lagging and a trace heater are a suitable options.

    • @jamescampbell7780
      @jamescampbell7780 Год назад

      Re route the pipe work internally during frosty weather to discharge into a plastic tub then empty it daily into the external drain.

  • @callumclark3358
    @callumclark3358 2 года назад

    Maybe attach the heater to the underside of the pipe where the ice forms? Just a thought..

    • @keithpearson7539
      @keithpearson7539 2 года назад

      I totally agree.... the bottom of the pipe will warm first (where the condensate lies), then since heat rises, the rest of the pipe should will get protected too.

    • @plumberparts
      @plumberparts  2 года назад +2

      Good idea. It’s only on the top in this video because, as I mentioned, the instruction on bends. Maybe you missed me saying it.

  • @UberAlphaSirus
    @UberAlphaSirus 2 года назад

    It's enough to turn my hydrangeas blue and my cabbages bright red!
    Yher ner.

  • @Benzknees
    @Benzknees 2 года назад +1

    Thank goodness I haven't got a condensing boiler!

  • @thomascarroll9556
    @thomascarroll9556 Год назад

    Why not just cut the pipe to about 50/100mm turn it 90° clockwise, and/or during very cold spells let the interior pipe run into a bucket.

  • @oliverstewart4459
    @oliverstewart4459 2 года назад

    All MIs state condense passes outside in at least 1 1/4 so any pipe that's less is against MI and ultimately against regs so should be replaced. This is a plaster for a problem that shouldn't exist

  • @Cheadlebiker
    @Cheadlebiker Год назад

    I use armour flex lagging

  • @Howie57
    @Howie57 Год назад

    My condensate pipe is plumbed into my internal waste pipe... Best thing to do

  • @LabRat6619
    @LabRat6619 Год назад

    Short exit outside, wide waste pipe (not 21mm), heat trace wire.
    Pipe insulation DELAYS freezing, does not prevent it.
    Install a condense pump indoors, so it fly out when pump kicks in (instead of dribble)

  • @K-carbon
    @K-carbon 2 года назад +3

    James as you know that pipe lagging isn't suitable for outdoor appcations
    It's not going to hold tight for long😁

    • @plumberparts
      @plumberparts  2 года назад

      The grey stuff falls to bits!

    • @K-carbon
      @K-carbon 2 года назад +1

      @@plumberparts armaflex all the way

    • @plumberparts
      @plumberparts  2 года назад

      @@K-carbon too right mate.

    • @rayc1503
      @rayc1503 2 года назад

      Any other class 0 lagging works good too.

  • @Sparks1Plumbers0
    @Sparks1Plumbers0 2 года назад

    Recipe for disaster.... Plumber + 'an electrical element' 🤯
    🤣

  • @sarahbowman4899
    @sarahbowman4899 Год назад +1

    What if my condenser pipe is in the wall

    • @plumberparts
      @plumberparts  Год назад

      Hi Sarah, you shouldn't have to worry about insulating it. 👍👍

    • @sarahbowman4899
      @sarahbowman4899 Год назад

      My condenser pipe is in the wall and is frozen. The boiler is tripping the electrics. So I have no heating or hot water. Any suggestions on how to defrost through a wall

    • @plumberparts
      @plumberparts  Год назад

      @@sarahbowman4899 this is a crazy problem if you don’t mind me saying! I guess you can’t even see the condense?

    • @sarahbowman4899
      @sarahbowman4899 Год назад

      @@plumberparts no goes straight in to the wall travels a small distance to the plumbing under the sink and then links up there to go to drain

  • @_Miner
    @_Miner 2 года назад

    £30 on amazon? thats almost doubled since this was posted.

  • @oliverohara4246
    @oliverohara4246 2 года назад

    Buy some condense external pipe covering and tie wraps from toolstation/screwfix and do it yourself for about £10-£15 depending on the length of the pipe. Simples.

  • @TheRealColt
    @TheRealColt Год назад

    get hem in eastenders wiwwlll yaaahhh

  • @anneoneill5724
    @anneoneill5724 2 года назад +2

    just bye pass the condensate when it's cold

    • @foxy1960
      @foxy1960 2 года назад

      That is what I have been doing for years

  • @wojciechmruk3539
    @wojciechmruk3539 10 месяцев назад

    Why this is not hidden inside of the house?
    Who the hell came up with the idea that hideous pipes running along the outside walls are a great addition to the view of the garden?
    In my case, I have a washing machine under the boiler, and since there is a washing machine, there is also water and a drain pipe. It could have been "connected". But no. The geniuses of evil decided to let me have an ugly pipe in the middle of the wall outside. Even if they wanted to run such a pipe, they could have let it out 10 cm above the external sidewalk, not 150 cm. Nobody cares about aesthetics. It's like Fiat Multipla. New, clean, shini, good job but ugly as hell.

  • @Chanesmyname
    @Chanesmyname 2 года назад

    Fit a fatter pipe. 😁

  • @lifeisshort1323
    @lifeisshort1323 2 года назад +1

    So basically this is one big advert

  • @quietman2672
    @quietman2672 Год назад +1

    Why not do away with your long pipe and just send the pipe vertical downwards to the floor as it comes out of the wall. That's what mine does.

    • @plumberparts
      @plumberparts  Год назад

      Depends if your boiler is near the soil stack. There's regs to be adheared to - so sometimes going straight down doesn't cut it. Thanks for your comment though!

    • @chapman9230
      @chapman9230 Год назад

      No dont do that. Condensate is acidic. This will weaken your foundations.