5 Things that You Might Be Doing Wrong on Your Motorcycle Trips!
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
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Do you have any of these wrong habits?
We make mistakes, because we don’t have experience and the experience comes from the mistakes we have made! What a paradox, it is like paragraph 22, never ending circle, is in it? In this video I will talk about the 5 things that you probably doing wrong.
N one is perfect, no doubt about it. From the mistakes we made we actually learning. Just to make it clear from the beginning I will tell that I don’t have any goals to teach you, convince you or push you to change your riding style or the habits that you already have. The idea of this video is to inform you, to expose the weak points of some of your choices or to show you one different prospective. I know that with some you will agree, but some will create a huge discussion and negative comment, especially number 5. No worries, I am ok with this. The final decision to believe or not will be yours and I cannot take any responsibility about it. Enough talks let go to the actual mistakes:
N:1 - Over pack.
This is a classic mistake for every new rider, the felling that you forget something. Do not even worry about it, it is absolutely normal and we all had it once in a time. The example I can give you now is to pack 7 t-shirts, 7 pair of socks and 7 under ware for a one week trip. Sound very logical is in it, but what you going to do if the trip is 2 months, you going to load 60 t-shirts, socks and pants?
N: 2 - Eat too much.
Many riders complain that they have a problem to stay awake for more than 2 hours, especially on long boring highways. Few people even asked me what I do to prevent this. Again this is classic mistake and it’s coming from not understanding how our bodies work. Most of you believe that the food gives energy, which is absolutely true, but first the food need to be digested.
N: 3 - Too long breaks.
To stop for an hour or more is not really good idea. What I notice in my trips is that the first hour or two are the most difficult. I usually think how much more I have a head, constantly checking the time and the km and the mileage I set for the day looks like something impossible. I cannot find proper position or always need to adjust mirrors and so on, but after couple of hours I am entering so call riding mode and everything become so easy and natural.
N: 4 - Having full rain suit instead of two parts.
This topic actually came from a comment I receive recently: Is it possible to wear rain suit from two parts or one part? Technically, the full suit protect much better, because you don’t have the open gab between the jacket and the pants, but, here you are again the important BUT, it is difficult to wear it, especially when the rain already started and you are under a small bridge on the highway. You will jump like a chicken there trying to go in. With two parts is much easier.
N: 5 - Having a top case.
Wow, I shouldn’t say that! Now many of you will attack me with angry comments that this is not true, that this is so convenient and so on. Yes, this is actually the only plus I can find of having top case - it is convenient. Everything else makes no sense at all. Once again: I don’t have any goals to change your riding gear, just will tell you some simple facts.
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You are the best motorcycle blogger on RUclips whatever you say about each and every video makes complete sense ... i am a big admirer of your work thank you for sharing such detail oriented motorcycling content ... Cheers Rudra
Thanks my friend! The idea of the channel is to help and I am glad that many people confirmed that.
Absltly right.This is a freewill youtube channel ,everybody can upload any kind video who has any idea about something.i believe that none of them shouldn't worry about opposite ideas.If everybody has a same idea or choices,i'm sure life is just like huuuge dark emty space...
I absolutely agree with everything you say!! Specially top cases. As you said if people don't understand its basically our to lack of experience and actually riding in all situations. Well said, great video as always
I agree.
Underline Rudraji Ghosh's comments 70,000 times.
As a beginner rider, i find your advice and experience invaluable. Thank you, please keep up the great work!
I will, thanks Steve!
Same here 👍🏻
My bike had a top case when i bought it and i never took it off because i thought it would be useful. The truth is that it rarely gets used and what often goes in it weighs less than the box itself. After listening to your thoughts about top boxes i decided to remove it. My bike is a 700 and feels like it picked up an extra 5 horses, also it's far more flickable than before. It's amazing how you can just get used to something and not consider whether or not it's actually helping. Now i only put the Givi on if I'm going for groceries. 'Enjoy your vlog. Thanks for the 'no BS' approach.
Jase
This channel is one of the best i saw on youtube, and not only. Personal experience, practical advice, and not a care about "what others think" This is real content with real value.
And thanks to you, even though I own a GS 1200 with a top case i am looking for soft luggage to replace it. The arguments make perfect sense. Less weight, more traction on the front wheel, that means better braking power as well in emergency situations.
Thank you very much Constantin!
I bought a Vstrom about a month ago, removed the top case after one ride. Thanks for convincing me I did the right thing!
You are welcome anytime!
Your advice on top boxes is correct. I just never thought of it from the C of G and front wheel traction point of view. It takes courage to talk about a topic that most riders will not agree with but, thank you for doing so - it has made me THINK!
What I really love about your videos is your video description. Everything I would want to know is there. Thanks for spending the time on it even though most people probably don't care
My pleasure! I know some people read it and it cost me nothing to do it.
You are exactly right about the ergonomics and design of the top box 📦! Anyone with common sense knows this !
They are a convenience but they are also
Unsafe ! In whoops , high speeds , and High cross winds where your motorcycle is trying to correct itself . It's like putting a death grip on your bars in a high cross wind ! You'll be wondering what your doing wrong ( it's the top box) !
Great stuff ! Stay safe even if it's inconvenient!!!!!!!!
Who is responsible for your safety? You are ! Not the marketing , sales or brand name !
I love your style, you being yourself. Do not change anything. Thanks for all the great tips.
I appreciate that!
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How come you weren't telling me that 40 years ago when I look like a traveling gypsy wagon....
Actually learned from my father who use to travel the Hungarian country side trading on his 125cc Tornax in the 1950s.. Actually great adventure. .
A thumb up 👍🏻 for removing top-case! Two friends of mine used to ride Yamaha FJR with top-cases. They had to repair tail sub-frame ones a year because after itch 3000-4000 km trip it was crashing.
Thanks for sharing!
Just ordered my first motorcycel. You'r videos are great since you'r such a good pedagog. And "angry"??? No. Full of energy and engagement! Thx!
Have fun!
Totally agree about top cases. A matter of gravity on TOP and REAR....THE WORST CONFIGURATION ON A MOTORCYCLE.
Exactly.
That is why I always put an anvil to the tank bag. ;-)
Well done that man ! About time someone with some influence (yes that’s you) have said it straight. Big heavy box at the furthest rear of the bike just does not make sense. Roll bag on the seat the only way. 👌
Agree.
If the bag is on the seat, where should I put my wife?
Even better... is a mate with a 4x4 🤣
I very much enjoy your tips and watching your adventures. Living in the USA it gives me a chance to see the other parts of the world thru your eyes. Keep up the great work and ignore the negative comments. You are very inspirational. Your American fan. Dan.
Awesome, thank you!
Me, I like the way you deliver the message, Pavlin! You perfectly make your point, explain details in a very understandable way.
Ok, here its easy in my case, because I hate topcases ever since, but still, you are just right...
Cool!
Servus Pavlin After about more then 50 Years on Road ,i can say you are to 100% right.You are a very nice and clever man.Wish you the best
Wow, thanks Sandro!
I have a top case so my wife has a back rest. I bought a V Strom so I could take my wife. Hmmm. Can I tell my wife she cant come because she is not aerodynamic? Wont mention the exta weight. Haha. Cheers
Actually, your wife is more aerodynamic than your top case, even the kg difference, because she seat on the proper position designed for that purpose.
Do not be afraid. V-Strom is wife and top-case proof. I have checked it many times. ;-)
Moto Troter Yay . Thank you Just bought the bike one week ago. I just turned 60yo. My wife has rarely ridden as pillion. Initially she said no to me buying the bike. Now she says i am not allowed to go anywhere without her! But she had to have a back rest. Done 1000km so far and loving it.
Several years ago I went with my wife to second hand shop to see the motorcycles. Man in this shop just showed me old V-Strom 650. I sat on it and said "That is what I am thinking about". My wife said "What else stupid will you be thinking about?". I said "Please sit on this bike as a passenger just for a moment." and she did it. After this her face has changed and she said "OK, let's buy it." Now she is riding alone more than me with her own motorcycle. Life, simply life.
@@mototroter Fantastic. What a great reply. Dont think my wife will ever ride herself but she is looking forward to riding with me. I am loving the 'wee' strom. Not quite 2 weeks. Bought it new cos i wanted the traction control.
Your point on top case make sense, I made thousands of km on my Electra Glide and the build in top case was only devoted to rain gear, a bottle of water and the helmet when I was stopping, to keep it as light as possible
agree on the top box, also changes your center of gravity (up) !!
and what i like about your videos: straight to the point! precise and concise!! great work man!
Thanks for taking the time!
Pavlin, you are the best dude!! straight to the point! I really appreciate your videos and adverts... keep it simple and logical!! congratulations and thanks!!! see you in the road!
Thanks man!
Sir, its your experience you are sharing, with the intention to help others cutting down going through what you have already done. So let serious people follow you and others learn it the hard way as they want. So completely ignore the negative comments (made for the sake of it and may be some really thoughtful one i am sure you will not). Keep up the nice vblogs. I could see increase in subscribers of 10K since i started watching your videos since last couple of weeks, which is an indication or appreciation of your experienced work. Bravo.
Thanks man!
Your words of wisdom are so important for long distance riding
Thanks!
So far whatever video I have seen by you is useful and precise, up to the point.
This was the original idea, to help.
Its really high technical part of Safety, someone who understand Science They 100% agree with you. Its a very Deep Concept & Thinking. Learn new thing again thanks
You are welcome anytime!
Watching your videos is like going back to school: Learn so many interesting things about ADV Travelling, tips and advice from an experienced Teacher and also finding out what all the bike manufacturers and accessories companies do not tell you, with due respect to them. Thank you Pavlin for the lessons!!
You are welcome anytime!
Good video! Thank you again for your work!
Vieles davon ging schon intuitiv gut, aber super das als Einsteiger bestätigt zu bekommen!
My pleasure!
WOW What an eye opener
You are correct
On the top case I had no idea never gave it a second thought
Probably why my old GSA the front wheel did pick up off the ground
Thank you very much for the info
Your vedlos are excellent
At 66 I am never to old to learn new techniques
Thank you
You are welcome anytime!
The RAW truth just the way i like it. Keep up the great videos. See you when you visit Canada!
Thanks, man!
I only ride street bikes on long trips and I do have a top case that came stock on the motorcycle. But you are right, it tempts you to overload and with the weight up high it makes it hard to get off the side stand in some cases. I learned a while back to load the weight in the saddle bags and only coats or light things in the top case, I also always try to leave room for my helmet to be stored in the top case over night... Great video..
Thanks for taking time to watching and for this commend Harold!
I have never worried about many things. Thank you for sharing your experiences. I'm planning a 14 day road trip through Scotland for next year. I will calculate many of your inspirations.
My pleasure! Enjoy your trip!
What a captivating presentation! Wow!
From day to day, you're better and better at video presentations. Very good old movies too, so please do not delete anything, especially the oldest! Great positive appreciation for your attitude and video sharing. Always good content. A happy trip to the Taj Mahal!
Thank you very much my friend! I am glad that the channel helps!
I use to travel in an old bike (2008 Dafra Kansas150cc) in Brazil, I use a hard top case, and it’s true, once in a long trip arround northeast region I felt in a big hole in the road and my top case felt down and break... I had a big trouble to fix it and to reassemble my luggage... it was in the middle of nowhere, no one was driving around to help I was all alone, and I fix it using cotton and super bond glue, forming like a fiber glass repair, at the beginning I reassemble the luggage cause I didn’t trust the repair, but during the trip became real that the repair was solid and I made home with the top case with all the luggage in... I have until today the same repaired top case, and works just fine. But I agree with you... I just like it, I know the risks but I take it... by the way nice channel I watch every videos... greetings from Brazil... tchau
Thanks man! Enjoy your trips!
Love the back drop pavlin, your right about the top box. Touring bikes are a completely different set up and the rear of the bike is strengthened for this purpose.
True. They are designed with this idea in mind.
Another Great Video. We appreciate your RECOMMENDATIONS which are based on your EXPERIENCES. We don't need the 3 minute intro about how you could be wrong. Remember, haters gotta hate, and some people just love to argue. The rest of us value your Opinion. Keep up the great work. Stop reading the negative comments.
Thanks man!
Nice vid with plenty of good advice. Brings back good as well as bad memories from my riding days.
I have to add a few comments though: I used both 1 and 2-piece rain gear and I confirm all statements, except water getting inside a 2-piece rain gear - never happened to me, even on days where it rained non-stop. And true about boots - they all get wet eventually. However, I could not find any "overboots" that I actually liked.
Thanks, man!
I was in the market for top case until I watched this video. Thanks for saving me some money and .. from a nasty accident. Subscribed!
I am glad that the video helped you David! Thanks for taking the time!
Wow a pure technical information you gave on top box it really makes sense
Thank you! I hope that more will watch this video!
@@motorcycleadventures yes absolutely
Thanx man, you're one of the best. Keep up the good work. ✌️
Thanks, will do!
Subscribed. I have done a number of long trips and these tips are dead on.
Excellent advice on all points.The one thing you forgot to mention was the effect of a top box in strong and blustery crosswinds,can be VERY dangerous !!!.Kind regards from Scotland.
Yes, I forgot that, thanks for adding!
What you are saying is so very true! Great job sir!
Glad you think so!
Thank you for your video and sound advices. I fully agree with the ban of side and top cases. I witness the tank slaping wobble at legal speed of my friend's HD Pan America. He died in the accident.
Sorry to hear that!
Interesting. I certainly agree about not taking too many tools. I don't rely on the cheap tools that come with the bike but make a small kit, only of the tools that fit specific things on the bike. Caliper bolts, fairing fasteners etc in case they come loose. Ithink most important is enough equipment to fix a puncture and inflate a tyre enough to ride.
Exactly the custom tool kit is a must.
Top cases are strange. Thank you for voicing that for me
Any time!
You are right about the physics of ergonomic posture for motorcycle with regards to weight distribution, especially heavy top box. Unfortunately and tragically so, most people are extremely attracted to top boxes mounted of their motorcycle tail.
Yes, hard to give it up!
Brother your conclusions are absolute. Keep it up
I will, thanks!
Awesome brother!!
Ive seen many travellers including myself go vegan during the day. Also, I always take my big meal at the end of the day ,and even for that I make sure I have a place to ... ahem... let it out in the morning
Exactly! Thanks for watching man!
I am currently planning a road trip to Mongolia for next year and even my vehicle of choice will be a 4*4, I think many of your valuable experiences and points are still applicable. Especially travelling light, keeping it minimal. Thanks for your videos, they are great to watch. Have a good day!
You are welcome anytime Sahin!
Absolutely. Consider well, what you really need, and, also very important, how to pack it. Stow as much as possible in the car, well distributed. heavy metallic military boxes and spare tyres for sure looks cool on the roof, but are terrible for the balance of your vehicle. and not to forget the stress induced to roof rack and roof itself. some 4x4 are not designed for heavy loads on the roof. there is a lot more to mention, but i want to keep the post short.
Again Pavlin, lots of good information. I like the way you put out the info and just leave up to the individual rider as to what works.
Thanks Henry!
Hi Pavlin Do not be demotivated by whatever angry comments Your blogs are proven by many kilometers you have driven so far and are really valuable info for those who are opened to learn new thing from real experienced motorcycle adventurer Take care
Hi Ivan, there is no way one or thousand trolls to demotivate me. I know what I fell and if my channel is able to help even just a few people I will keep doing what I do.
Hard boxes for me when riding 2 up especially. We have tried 2 dry bags on my old Tiger 800 worked fine but was always nervous when leaving the Bike even for a short length of time. Handling with all the weight is definitely effected but all I do is compensate ie slow down. I’ve learnt over the years to travel light and take it easy you always get there in the end. I like your straight talking it’s a thumbs up from me. 👍
Thanks David! Yes, when you have a passenger, the things are totally different.
Thank you Pavlin for the advice - travel light - travel further. I only use my top box when I am at home - easy to pack my surfing equipment when I go to the beach. my first trip to Namibia the top box broke off between Eis and Walvis baai - I through it away in the desert and the stuff that was in it was easily stored on the bike. keep the good information coming - thank you
Thanks Daniel for watching! So you learned the hard way.
I understand your reason, but i will keep my top case. Its very practical
Whatever you like, it is your bike and your trips.
miko arifin, me too.
Yip, keeping mine as well.....more pros than negatives as I have security and I put most of my clothes in there because it's light. I do see many bikers that are on RTW trips with top cases. I do love all your videos though!
I'm keeping mine too. 😎 Motorcycle Adventures, keep it up. Love all your videos.
Me too, the front tire does not come off the ground, that's why you have forks and they have sag
All good advice, I hate top boxes for all the reasons you state. The only place for them is delivering pizza in town. On a moped. In shorts.
Agree. I don't wanted to say that in the video and upset some pizza delivery guys.
So where do you put the luggage ?
A backpack si not big enough
@@andradeandres So you need to learn how to select the most important stuf for your travel :)
@@dangkrangterminal2101 Easy to say, but if you're travelling to central Asian countries you need a certain number of parts and tools, as there might not a dealer in the whole country, clothes to cover a range of temperature as well as some decent camera gear, a laptop to edit, tripod, backup batteries, chargers, GPS etc. You'd want to be able to lock that gear up if you need to leave the bike somewhere, so there really isn't a solution without a top box. It also provides a good spot to mount a GoPro on an extension to give a pillion view of the country side. You might think the camera gear is unnecessary, but the general video quality on this channel is really bad and if you want to do better, you need better gear.
I have a top case - BUT I think you are correct.
I try to keep it empty most of the time and just use it to lock up my helmet or tank bag etc at places when i park, or sometimes i will put some groceries in there when shopping when heading for somewhere closeby to camp. I use waterproof duffel bags accross the pillion seat and my panniers for regular loads
Good.
@@motorcycleadventures You da man !!! as per usual Pavlin. Agree with you on everything but...i use a light scooter top box all the time on pavement and light off road ...used exactly like Island Dreaming. Balaclava,spare gloves, extra shirt are usually the most i ll have in there on the move. Most importantly acts as a great backing for top roll and sleeping bag on passenger seat.
Last week I went to Austria (from Blgium) to test out my luggage (camping gear, cooking gear , clothes, food,...) for a total of 430 kg (217 for the bike, 23 for the fuel, 115 for myself including gear, 10 kg for panniers, 65 kg for the gear). KTM 1290R max is 450 kg. I set the suspension accordingly.
Result : it was just awful. Going through the bends in the mountains was hard work and all the fun of riding a great bike was gone. And especially the Top case (10kg), as in the hairpins it had to incline from left to right and back. It makes finding the correct balance to handle the turn very delicate and tiresome.
My conclusion which support your message Pavlin :
- No Top case anymore, except perhaps for commuting
- No camping and cooking gear and enjoy Bed and breakfast
- As less weight as possible to be able to enjoy the hairpins in the mountains
- Camping/cooking gear only when you take the highway to reach a destination, drop your gear in a camping and start touring around in the neighborhood without gear.
This is what I call hard lesson.
2009 BMW R1200GS with factory top case Vario broke when on rough dirt roads. It had too many tools and was a major problem coming home with the top case dangling off the rack. I am lucky I was riding with 2 friends who were able to carry the contents of the case so I could get it back home. Top case worked well for city, but definitely I agree with you that it is bad to have off road.
Hard lesson!
Bought my first bike a couple of years ago. The first mod I did was the get rid of the top case! 😁
Great tips Pavlin! I agree with ALL of them, although I am a proud owner of a top case, I have realised that is it completely unnecessary (and maybe even dangerous) to take it on a trip, especially if the trip involves even a little bit of bad road of offrading. I broke by luggage rack in two places by riding with a fully loaded top case on bad roads. However, for just city riding top case is convenient for helmet storage and other little things, IMHO.
And regarding the boot covers, my friend, you took the words right out of my mouth! It's not IF your feet will get wet, its WHEN you feet get wet. No matter what boot manufacturers say (alot of things they say just for sales) your feet WILL GET WET! I will definitely tag you in the video when I release it on my channel about riding in rain!
Great job, keep it up, I am in love with your tips and trips!
Just my two cents - I liked your earlier video presentations more then this one with superimposed background and soft cuts. In my opinion it takes the attention away from you. I will still watch your videos, no matter the presentation, but just giving a little bit of constructive criticism here. Please don't mind.
Thanks Krishna! The opinion about the back ground is important.
I think you are right! Top case is good maybe for pica deliveries or small journeys
I use a tank bag. It keeps the weight in the middle of a bike and it blocks the wind so I don't need a windscreen.
Thanks Pavlin for another great video. Opinions based on experience. Love it.
You are welcome anytime!
Well, I absolutely agree with Pavlin in the advises of the the "top-case" stuff. These are very useful advises. This video is made for a long distance traveller who usually ride alone, and not for someone who bring his wife or someone else for a one hundred kilometers trip... On my first long distance trip, I used a top-case box and I hated it quite a lot... Never again.
You learned the hard way!
As for your rain pants get them 1 or 2 sizes larger because they come up higher und over your summer jacket etc. I have been riding in heavy weather without getting wet after I up sized my rain pants🌧️⛈️😊
Never miss your shows always spot on keep up the good work
Thanks Michael!
Thank you for doing all these videos... I'm learning a lot from your experiences and honest commentary.
The reason I would never use a top case is this.... I don't want to have something happen that flings be backwards off the bike, and have my head/neck/back hit that hard top case. Could be paralysis, in my opinion. So, I'll never use a hard top case. Side cases first, then a duffel bag across the back of the seat if necessary.... but never a hard case directly behind me.
Keep on, ride well! :-)
My pleasure!
Thanks for this information. My Suzuki Vstrom came from the factory with hard side bags . My top box never has anymore weight than the specifications on the box . I’d be lost without it .
Ok, then use it, but mind what I just said.
big step forward, you're getting even more professional :) for my personal sight, i hate top boxes... but i don't want to miss my alu hard cases with all pros and cons.
i tried soft luggage for several trips but i never got friend with it. (just my personal sight) with the years i learned a lot from my mistakes and i totally agree with you.
1. overpacking - i took the hard lesson on my first long trip 1998 to scottland. broken back frame welded at a local iron shop, a rubbed back tyre and sitting at a post office retuning nearly 60% of luggage and tools. this took me two days and nearly 200 pounds ( today about 380 euro).
2. for me it's important to have a good but normal size breakfast. during the day i eat only small portions when i get hungry, but drinking is quite more important.
3. i allways keep my breaks short, i'm getting faster tired when resting too long (for me its completely different... the last kilometers are the longest :)))) )
thks for the vid and keep on going
Use whatever you like and suit you well. Thanks for the comment!
If you do have a top case, the centre of the case should be no further back than the centre of the rear wheel.
I've ridden Harley touring bikes with top cases and they are fine because they are designed for them and stay on the road.
Better to strap a large waterproof sack to the back seat and keep it lower. Keep the heavy stuff in the bottom of the panniers.
The eating is very important.
I have a tendency to fall asleep at the best of times so I eat very light on the road.
Not much meat at all if I can help it.
I love my topcase when I'm just touring around, visiting a village and do not need to carry my helmet in my hand all the way. Convenience.
BUT... When I go on a multiple day journey, I pack my bike and keep the CoG as low as possible, so I use a rollbag on the duo-seat and put personal stuff inside the luggage compartment, where normally the fuel tank is. About 100 litres of total space is more than enough for me.
Use whatever is good for you.
Absolutely 100% agree with you. I have a top box, it is heavy, looks hideous and negatively affects the handling.
I travel as light as possible. You give great advice.
Thanks man!
As usual..practical advice coming from experience. I agree about the top box. If necessary only for the 20 pairs of shoes for the wife. Happy wife..happy life!
Thanks man!
He is saying lots of good things in this video. One of these things I have experienced in real life when I was driving on longer distances (which means only Europe for me) was that some of the other drivers I was with got tired after a few hours of driving but always in 2 hours after their last meal. As a chef I can tell you if you go to an endurance ride its always better to stop in regular intervals and eat less. And why? Lets say you are a male between the age of 30-45 weighing between 70-100kg-s, that means your daily intake is 2500-3000 calories (excluding off-road driving, when its +15-20%). If you take that 3000 in 3 meals you overwhelm your body and irregardless of your metabolyc functions you just won't be able to use all the energy (protein, carbohydrate, fat) you take in. As a result of that your system gets confused and you will get tired. Best is to eat 4-5 times a day, eat less food and you will provide a continuous energy source for your body when you are on a tour.
Ot just eat once or twice per day, like me, usually when I stop riding.
Great tips..!! Do a video of which tires, brake pads to use for long distance trips..
The brake pads depends from the model. Video about the tires you can watch here: ruclips.net/video/RmH4p_0eGUA/видео.html
Motorcycle Adventures hmm thanks man.. What about tires for road (tar) trips? Non off roads.. Maybe suggested road or street tires and lasting for thousands km
Interesting point of view, but I'll keep rideing with my topcase in longer trips.
Besides beeing practical, my motorcycle is heavier on its front side and, at speeds up to 160km/h (highway) never had any issues. Most of the time I don't exceed speed limits and I definitely don't do offroad.
Thinking of buying a larger top case, The Trekker Outback 58l :)
Do whatever works for you.
Hello,excelent videos! What do you recomend to have instead of a top case?? Are saddle baggs better?
Thank's!!
I always use saddle bags, but I don't know for you.
I bought the authentic Suzuki panniers and top box for the v strom. Intially thought they were a bit small but now am happy with the size. If nec will get a tank bag and soft bag to strap to the seat.
Whatever suit you and serve you well.
Oh man, that picture at the beginning. Knockan cliff heading towards Elphin. Stirs some emotions that does. Long story, for another day...
I am glad that you like it!
Awesome as always.
The topcases and cigerate, they are not good but still out there - "marketing strategy".
Exactly!
Since I ride doing a wheelie the whole time, my top box actually just helps me out on this so im good :)
For this it will help definitely!
good points, as usual. BTW honda even makes marketing films with Africa Twin jumping in the air with side and top hard cases on LOL
Well...marketing is everything...
I love this information. Excellent .
Glad it was helpful!
with top cases you can adjust the preload on the bike now try pushing it the hardest as you can the back won't budge but that said I agree with you as a long term prospect it is not a good idea aerodynamically, ergonomically and visually it isn't a good idea but for short trips no problem.
I totally agree with the last point
Another informative video as expected !! U r continuesly doing a great job. Many people will get good knowledge from your videos,... Best wishes from Kolkata, India... Keep it up Pavlin !!
Thanks Sujoy!
I agree with all of it - except the Topcase: My 35 year old (!) ZX-10 Tomcat does not shed a drop of sweat carrying additional few kilos on the tail, me being a 110kg rider with appropriate rear shock pre-tension.
But yes, the modern bikes are quite slender (and even too light and fragile?) on the rear.
Riding a freight train like the Tomcat is something completely different though.
Fair enough!
I agree with the opinion on top boxes, but what about side boxes or cases? What is your opinion on them? I really like your videos, thanks for the information.
I have at least three videos on this topic.
I agree about a top box completely. But there are situations when we ride with a pillion or extra luggage is necessary so all the risks should be assessed!
If you say so!
Good evening Sir, regarding top boxes, l totally agree on your reasons not to have one but does a pillion not also affect the balance of the bike and what about side panniers, do they not also affect the ergonomics ? l am genuinely curious of your opinions. Great video as always and thank you for the effort you put into making them.
Believe or not 60kg pillion affect the bike balance less than 15kg top box. The reason of that is because the top box stays behind the rear axle.
This is great video I can understand that because I have facing that problem top box is worth
Thanks for sharing your experience .....
You are welcome anytime!
Background pictures work beautifully . What a difference ! Great .
In a city bike exploitation I think , most , if not every bike rider does need hard top case - plastic ones are rather light (or side ,and then it`s two side cases that worse than one top ) . And they have it . B/c you must always carry at least one lock with chain - heavy -means good ( i carry two locks - second pin lock ) and cover . Not mentioning the helmet and armor (if you wear one , i do ) . Unless you want your bike to be easily stolen . But that`s for city everyday use . I`m not talking the long distance riding - do not have experience .
Yes, about the city ride I will agree. Not my favorite, but I understand.
you are doing hardwork for us thanks for your guidance :)
Hard work? No, it is a pleasure for me to help.
Motorcycle Adventures yes it's hard work, because you have faced so many negative comments in your videos, so once again thank you... Salman from India
Hi, thank you for the video. About the topbox, the change on the weigth distribution is a matter of fact, you're right. But then, doesn't the same reasoning stand for the sidebags? The COG might result lower with sidebags, but they still add weight on your rear. What's your opinion about that? Do you think sidebags have less negative effect? Why? Thanks!!
Saddlebags are much better, because they are not at the end of the tail. The same for hard cases, even heavier they will be still safer than top case. Everything what is hanged after the rear wheel center will have negative impact of your riding. I hope that this will help!
@@motorcycleadventures sounds reasonable, thanks!
Great information again sir.
Full wet weather suit is great for some but I find the biggest problem is when you have to go to the toilet, they can be a problem to remove when in a hurry.
Fully agree about top boxes, they upset the weight distribution by being too far back and too high, the weight should be between the axles to keep the balance better.
I have a rack with a bag on my bike but the bag always sits on the pillion seat, and the soft panniers as low and as far forward as I can.
The axles are the main pivot points, the more weight on the outside of these points changes the fore- aft pitch of the bike.
O yes, I forgot about the toilet. I was planed to say it, but miss it when I was recorded. This winter, on my way to the Balkans with all of the clothes I have, include the rain gear to go to the toilet was an adventure itself!
When you get older ya lose your grip , gotta be careful!
There is no " traction " on the frontwheel, unless is 2x2, but anyway, never had and not planning to purchase a top case. Learned a lot from your videos, good health and good luck!
By saying traction I mean the contact to the road.
Good advice as usual. Keep up the excellent videos.
Thanks Philip! I will.
Another great video, thank you.
Do you recommend any light small tents etc
Thanks man! The list of everything I can recommend you can see here: rtw-adventures.com/motorcycle-gear-1.html
Nice explanation.. Useful information.. Keep continue
I agree, I use throw over bags and a roll bag on the pillion seat. Years ago I had tank panniers (soft) and the bike felt really stable, I wonder if you can still get these, and what do you think about this?
I have seen some options, but really depends from the model. Could be way better then top box.
Use what you have and over time you realise what works and doesn't work. I've wasted a lot of money over the years, but at least I know what I can use in any given scenario. Hard earned knowledge, but I never say it's the only way to do it, as I've seen too many riders use plastic bags on their feet in the rain to know that you don't HAVE to buy Goretex boots ;-) Keep the suggestions coming and if people want to use them, great, if not they can spend the money and learn for themselves.
Exactly what I planing to do. Keep talking and hope someone will listen...