Colleges Are Now Able To Directly Pay Athletes, Surely This Won't Cause Any Issues? | Pat McAfee
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This is gonna be a dumpster fire if there isn’t proper parameters set up.
Parameters, not perimeters
And there, not they’re
@@bwfextremeI understand the correction with parameters but the 2nd comment just makes u seem like a dbag 💀
And there won't be
@bwfextreme was just looking out for a friend
Schools can now directly pay players vs indirectly like everyone was doing before and acting like it wasn't happening.....
Are colleges now for-profit organizations? If so, should they still enjoy the tax-exempt status?
Their sports programs certainly are. To be fair, all these colleges are for-profit organisations. Only community colleges aren't.
Buddy they’ve been for-profit organizations for decades now, and it’s causing loads of problems.
Since when were colleges npos?
@@benisrood Where are you getting that they are for profit? From what I can find public universities are non profit with federal tax exemptions?
That’s what I’m saying lol. I liked it better when they did it under the table
A lot of sports programs are gonna get cut.
If there’s no demand they can be the true amateurs. If it’s less fun because they don’t have money or a crowd then so be it.
Yep, money gotta come from somewhere
The big question for the other 27 non-power conferences (the Big East, the West Coast Conference, etc.) is how much of a slice of the pie will they receive? If it comes down to schools cutting some Olympic sports, it will be sad--all because of the TV money that is flooding the schools with lots of cash.
Sorry but a lot of people have been getting a free ride off the backs of college football players. College football players have been risking rheir long term health playing a very physical sport they love but havent received compensation for being the reason all that revenue was generated.
The revenue college football generates belongs to the players, coaching staff and all the folks directly involved in college football operations
That revenue doesnt belomg to the softball team, the ping pong team or the strong independent wamen's teams.
Good, some colleges need to focus on academics
RIP small college football programs lol
RIP all college sports that aren’t money making basketball and football.
Big facts
So silly. As if the massive programs didn’t buy players already and at the end of the day, there are only so many starting spots. Players want to play.
@@rexfordmorgan7552 right but the power house school with unlimited funds will be able to buy all the best players and the smaller schools that still have great programs will not be able to.
It's really too early to tell but I hope they implement some kind of salary cap or smaller schools won't be able to compete.
just like it should be. If it doesnt make money for the college the sport shouldn't exist
Big Baby reading about this in jail mad as hell he missed the cut off 😂
Make them pay for their own classes,books, housing and food then. And give the athletic scholarship to the students who actually will take advantage of it.
Go to bed grandpa 😂
My friend was a biology major on full ride and getting paid for research in the summers but I never heard anybody saying she needs to pay outta pocket because she gets paid from the school and our music majors would get paid when they went performing for the school but when it’s the athletes it’s a problem 😂
This is such a dumb thought from someone who clearly never went to college
@@user-vs6qe3sq7fit's a pretty fair take. It's not fair to people who have to struggle to pay for college.
@@Markfreeman8 This is a crazy statement life isn’t fair they don’t have to pay for college nobody is forced to go plenty of students have scholarships and grants that cover them it’s not fair for the people that bring in the money to be punished for the struggling students
Hey Pat
Don't worry about West Virgina
Under this new system they will never compete for a national championship ever again
How dare you
lol
I live in Georgia but not a UGA fan… I hope GT gets that Coca-Cola money and embarrasses the hell out of them! Lmao
So accurate
I mean it’s not like they were competing for National Championships before…
Like they haven't already been paying for the last 20 years. They're just doing it out in the open now
Right, all these rules against college football players making profit on their image/name and then they walk into the NFL draft with huge customized diamond necklaces and grills lol.
Last 120 years.
Nice
@@LeGeNdxRejectbut why doesn’t the biology major on a full ride that got paid doing research by the school in the summer not get the same bitching as the football and basketball players
We understand
Now they are essentially employees and get paid to work. Do they even still have go go to classes? Like what is difference between thud and pro sports league. Whole thing is bizarre.
Can’t you work on campus as a normal student like in the library or whatever? Of course they are still students
@@ssensei34 in name yeah, but before if you failed classes you got kicked off the team scholarship revoked. Now they are essentially employes, is legal to do that anymore? will scholarships still be a thing as now they are employes? It's like a sports league with some weird addtional IQ test.
@@mysteryhombre81 School rules still apply. Every school needs you to maintain a certain GPA in order to be employed by them. The kids working in the library also lose their job if they fail classes. Schools will likely put more effort into making sure a star athlete has good grades.
@@cmike123 That's so strange, as the main reason they are there is for job, not education. It's like your job required a random non related tests all the time to stay employed. I see so many lawsuits happening when people lose their main income when cut. And the end of college sports as a major power as the leagues will have to eventually just become independent contractors, but be associated with the college. Maybe we will see age limits or something.
@@mysteryhombre81 You are making a huge assumption. Most students are getting the education so they can get a job. Athletes are there for the same reason. Most athletes understand the math behind going pro. They may use athletics to pay for the education, but end up having to use the education. Some of the smarter ones tailor their education to help with athletics.
NCAA already has eligibility requirements. People that either need extra help with studies, or want to wait a bit for a starting spot already have to Red Shirt to not blow a year of eligibility. I dont think there is an age limit, because people past the mid-20s mark generally are not good enough to make a team.
They need to establish a salary cap if this is the case
That's what the 22% of sports revenue is, a salary cap.
They get $20 million period. They can blow all 20 on 1 kid, but what is more likely to happen is the money gets spread around.
The real mess is going to be if players unions start lobbying Congress for more than the 22%. The schools are wanting Congress to protect them with an anti trust exemption. And then they still don’t know how title 9 plays into this
This is going to work great……
Just like introducing sports betting
I like sports betting
There are still a ridiculous amount of questions that no one is asking and potential problems that need to be addressed with all of this
Taxes are about to jump even more though the roof
Literally not how that works lmfao bro has no understanding of taxes
@@davidwilliams6392 so whenever your state passes a bill to allocate more money to the universities to help fund this who ultimately is paying for it? Are they taking federal grants to pay for it and who pays for that? Are we going to make the players getting paid pay their scholarships or are the taxed tickets, apparel, lottery tickets, city gratitude charges, and students paying to go to that school is that tuition going towards paying players? This isn’t NIL so where is the universities getting the money and how will they be able to sustain the money?
@@JoshWilson1995 a crazy thing called profit from revenue, boosters, investors
@@JoshWilson1995school budgets and athletic departments budgets are separate. There getting paid the money they help generate
@@chris123591 not all sports are money generating probably only the football team is generating money to sustain anything. How do they make there money is off tickets (taxed) merchandise (taxed) donations (tax write offs) and from conferences…. That being said if your not a power 5 then your going to go bankrupt they aren’t generating enough money so they states legislation will put a bill in to tax you more to be able to fund it one way or another the consumer is paying for this. I’m sure you TV subscription will go up, the ticket prices, the sodas at a game, the clothes you buy that supports your team, everything will go up and be taxed more because it’s the only way to sustain it, why do you think these power 5 conferences jumped on this settlement? It’s all about the money
Im a huge nfl guy, never was too big into cfb unless it was the playoff or just a massive game. But this just can’t be good right?
Yes, it's terrible that the schools will be forced to share the revenue with the athletes people want to watch.
College sports is professionalizing for better and for worse.
Worse
Way worse
@@mattofthekeys both. There’s ways it’s better and ways it’s worse
For viewers worse
For athletes better
Better. Yall white men have benefited enough
These sports need minor leagues. College should not be the step before the NFL or NBA. For players whose career is basketball or football. Send them to the league, or a development league that feeds into the pros. This is going to crush all the smaller programs who do not have multimillion dollars to spend on players.
How else are the universities going to make their billions of dollars
That is what I think is going to happen. Say hello to NFL Junior or NFL Lite. Just let the 40 to 60 powerful football programs break away from the NCAA, and let the other nearly 300 Division One schools continue running the tournaments we all know and enjoy.
So after college you want them to get hit for another 2-3 years to try to make it to the nfl to get hit for 2-5 years that’s stupid
Won’t be too long till college sports are kinda over
Already kinda exists for the NBA but it’s all overseas leagues. The top draft picks in recent years are all international guys.
I'm glad Pat is so happy about this considering West Virginia will never be a true playoff competitor ever again under this.
South Park summed up the NCAA pretty well with the crack baby episode. 👍😂
It should have always been like this, loving the sport but criticizing players getting paid is just crazy
Ticket prices just doubled. The fans always end up paying for all of this in every way they can be charged. This will further exclude a lot of people that can't afford it.
Hahahahahah, get ready for the biggest circus in the world with every conceivable circus disaster imaginable to take center stage for the next decade!
YEP😂😂
You mean like there is now? Let’s not pretend the current and past systems weren’t corrupt AF
Now cut their damn scholarships. This is crazy.
U wnt to cut the tuition of the ppl who buy the books and builds all classrooms and buildings 😂😂😂… you definitely didn’t graduate with that mindset 💀
The scholarships won't go away. The walk-ons will.
@@TheKaoticivory What are you talking about? Getting rid of athletic scholarships means they have to pay their tuition since they are now being paid.
The most sought after students at any U.S. college campus are enticed to attend by scholarships, fellowships, and tuition remission. There’s competition in the market, and tuition is discounted or fully funded. It’s marketplace supply and demand. Why should it be any different for student-athletes? It’s such a strangely bitter and hateful notion.
@@bradenhazle4378 It's a formality, regardless. The athletic department will just cover the cost of tuition when writing the check.
Reggie Bush can be the President of the College Player’s Union.
I remember when college was about education and tradition. Now it's just a semi-pro sports league with really high tuition costs, bogus degrees, forced DEI initiatives, and tv contracts that dictate which colleges get to succeed and which get to fail.
Under this new system there will now only be like 12-15 schools MAX that could ever compete for a national championship. Unbelievable that they are ruining college sports like this, you get free college but these people are too ungrateful. This isn't going to just ruin football either, but every NCAA sport.
I have heard some stories of what happens already. There needs to be a curb somewhere because things are already out of hand but there’s a chance for it to get worse.
There are some academic departments down south SWEATING🤣 I hope schools don’t cut academic programs to pay players but we know it’s coming
I’m sure they’ll just go to the feds and ask for money to keep them
Athletic departments have long been separate from the schools at large, don't spread misinformation
@@nathanstruble2177 You can’t call it misinformation if I am projecting. Just because that is the status quo now does not mean that institutions like Alabama or Tennessee will not in the future decide to focus more funding towards athletics due to the revenue and take funding from academics. Also if you are stupid enough to think RUclips comments are information then I can’t help you or anyone who thinks that way.
That dude sounds like Schmidt doing a Favre impersonation
Well tuition is already extremely expensive. This will make it worse
EXACTLY
Tuition has nothing to do with sports costs they have boosters. Universities are businesses with investors that EXPECT regular and consistent returns that's real cause of increased tuition.
@@84unisollmao “tuition has nothing to do with sports” brain dead, absolutely no thought processes going through your head.
Tuition doesn't go into athletic departments. Their financials are completely separate.
Athletic departments have long been separate from the schools at large, don't spread misinformation
Why not get the input of all the schools that have been paying their athletes for the past 40 + years ? They probably have the structure / template that can help the others.
This has gotten out of hand real fast
With this Arkansas should become a competitor I mean you got Walmart, Jerry Jones, JB Hunt, and Tyson foods like how do they not just go to a top recruit here you want a mil take it
The scuttlebutt I've heard is that the Walton's, (owners of Walmart) are actually funding Missouri, since that's where their founder went to college. But I agree Tyson alone would push Arkansas into a perpetual Top10 school. It's honestly disgusting how much money they have
Rip to smaller programs
There needs to be proper regulation and oversight of this now.
This is great. The players generate MILLIONS for these schools. Not sure why ppl are against this. NiL showed us what cfb looks like when players are paid. Its been a great product..
We want a semi pro league with the top 50 schools playing each other. I don’t want to see Alabama play school of the blind for 8 weeks out of the year
So now my college tuition becomes a paycheck so another fellow student can get paid to play football? Yeahhh.....bs.
Except those students put there bodies and time on the line to make your college ALOT of money that then goes into nicer facilities for all the other students. Your tuition Is pennies on the dollar to what they bring in.
@@michaelmiller9320that’s not true as the vast majority of college programs don’t net the school any money
Blame the incompetence of your school. They have been ripping you and the players off for decades
Tuition doesn't go into athletic departments.
Your tuition is for your degree. What the school does with the funds is none of your business
"If schools are paying players, what happens to the NIL money?" Because athletes being paid by their teams AND completely separate endorsement deals is totally new.
The big thing is now you’re going to have a Ton of them being arrested every year because they won’t pay taxes on it. The IRS isn’t going to miss. It’ll be like 80% of them being arrested.
NIL is technically outside money. Schools and the NCAA lack the legal authority to either cap or eliminate a student athletes ability to earn outside endorsement money.
Probably work just like the NFL in the since athletes have their salaries from the team and outside endorsements 🤷♂️
Dude I thought that guy was Ty Schmit personating someone 😂
I was NFL bound until them Sebring Lightning bolt boys took out my knees in the Heartland Championship game of the 7th grade Junior high school round of 64 in 1997. Them good ole days as the running back for them Hardee Junior High Wildcats.
I grew up and live big 10 football. I always had Saturdays when Sundays got too much drama filled. Now it's all about Friday nights.
Just sign the players to contracts
Long term this could be great if done correctly.
Saturday’s been looking like Sundays for over 20years
This is horrible for colleges and student athletes, much like ncaa design and what they’ve tried to do to our country, No Loyalty!
When can we drop the ‘student’ athlete sham and just let them play as an employee?
This is going to be very crazy. 90% of sports and schools lose significant money. For the 10% of schools and sports that actually make money, they will be able to pay players, and all the other schools won’t have a chance to compete. It is what it is… those schools were already dominating the market but Im sitting back and watching the show right now.
As a high school teacher, I can't in good conscience tell any of my students to go to college anymore. It doesn't make sense financially in the least bit, and this is only going to make tuition prices even worse.
The school athletes contribute way more then 90% of the students and teachers at these big time university I’ve never seen fans line up out side the biology lab for a lecture or purchase gear that says Alabama biology club if the tuition prices go up because the players are getting a cut of the revenue seems like they definitely been getting screwed over
@@daa_97 Then you're completely missing the point of college. Make these athletes go form their own farm systems and turn school back into school.
@@Rookie_Mode2023 college is a business acting like it’s anything more is naive and athletes is the biggest money maker for these schools saying turn school back to school when the nice dorms nice and new labs are built on their hard work is hilarious
I love football and enjoy some other sports, but this to me is another message as to what's wrong with society. Imagine if we paid doctors and scientists like this to discover cures and theories? It's sad.
11:03 is that McLovin all grown up?
This applies to so few people
College sports will never be the same. The kids deserve the money more than anyone it's just a shame all the schools and other people this will affect. 😢😢
Now, there will be contracts, lawsuits, and major issues between players and universities. Players will not be able to leave the university when they want, because they will be under contract. This going to get messy. It will eliminate the portal now because it will be handled by agents and lawyers. Wow!!
itll prob be one year contracts id think to start with. Too much risk involved for the team and player to hand out a 4 year deal from day 1.
If your university take your tuition and spends it on signing athletes your degree is worth as much as your team lmao
To pay them LEGALLY!!! 🤣
So what about if their grades lapse and they're not eligible to play? Do they have to still even go to class?
they just wanna mess stuff up so they can fix it and avoid actually addressing the real problems of the sport
The $20 million is not a salary cap that’s the amount of money the schools have to pay their Athletes if schools want to pay more money they can they can spend up to as much as they want. There is no salary cap. They don’t want to get sued again they have to wait until a collective bargain agreement. This is basically just a settlement.
Schools never paid for players before…..
Meanwhile tuition is 30-50k a year at public schools.
The next lawsuit will be a player wanting more eligibility and it will become infinite. The NFL will have to sue before this is settled.
I fear with major conference realignment and this new statute that periphery, smaller sports whom don’t produce revenue will be eliminated. Football revenue does support other school sports at almost all D1 programs
Imagine that, money ruined something.
I played QB at UTEP in the 80’s. Do I get $20 bucks?😂😂😂😂
Why was the ncaa being sued in the first place?
because they made 93 billion dollars without having to pay the people that made it for them.
And these kids are supposed to go to class 😂
If the school can make money off the players. Then the players should make money off the school. Period
Just like that, Marvin Harrison Junior is getting his doctorate
Are players signing contracts with the schools? Will they be legally binding themselves to play for the school for 2 or 3 or 4 years?
Genuine question here, how does this affect Title 9? Will collages have to pay every athlete or at least split the money evenly between the men’s and women’s teams or will it not come into play?
Next is the NCAA players association, then the cba
Good, an honest days work deserves an honest days pay.
Oh no! The previously free and exploited labor can now be reimbursed for their work! The horror!
Who do u think is going to pay for it?
@@sjaustin4042the people already making billions off of these kids
$85k scholarship including free housing and food "free and exploited labor"
crumbs in comparison to what they generate. @@__G___
@@__G___ false
Ncaa just needs ignored and dissolved for crimes aganist people...
This will put kids deep in debt if they are not carful. Things could have changed but at least in the 80's if you got a sports scholarship room/board and meals were considered income and taxes needed to be paid. when you left college you could owe 11k in taxes. Most of those kids will not go pro and will immediately owe taxes. Now they will have to pay more so hopefully its like a normal paycheck and taxes are pulled from each instalment.
I thought this was already happening?
It absolutely was. Even the oldest of players will tell you about 50 dollar handshakes. Now it's just out in the open and, in theory at least, regulatable.
I feel like this is going to backfire and hurt the team aspect of college athletics.
Most of all the college players will not make the NFL. they get paid professional money in college, but won't make a NFL roster. Interesting
They have been paying them for decades. Now they can get taxed… schools also.
So not only is the American tax payer paying for bailouts on student loans but now we are paying football players? Is that what's going on?
You gotta pay the water boys now. Like in NFL
Can’t wait to see how this affects the relationship between players, fans and the universities.
More pressure on the players for sure on game day.
But congratulations to the players though. Earn yours.
It’s turning into a joke
I would sue the lawyers trying to take a 15% cut of those billions, I don't care what the industry standard is they are not doing 150 million plus dollars worth of work
Then you owe them more money, go ahead 😂
NCAA basketball could benefit the most… there’s not that many jobs for the new draft classes, could stay a few years instead of being a 2nd round pick then to the G league/Europe instantly then done with hoops all together
And that will hurt the kids trying to come up from HS. If players stay longer that means less spots for new guys.
If athletes are employees:
1) Do they need to take classes?
2) Do they still have a limited number of years or can they be employed for 20 years as a player?
3) Can a school hire a player mid-year from another team?
4) Will players still get free meals and room from the school?
Who does this actually benefit? It’s hard to see any logic behind this.
Probably just the top 15 richest schools, no way any medium to small schools can ever truly compete again.
Taxes as well. Losing that amateur status will cause the government to come knocking. Also I think they will have to lower the amount of kids that can be on each team or the smaller schools will not survive
They were paying them anyway now its just on top of the table
Are GMs coming to?
Universities should pay students who go above and beyond in their classrooms as well. Also does it violate title 9 to pay men’s athletes more than women’s athletes?
Don't besmirch the venerable name of Bojangles!
they should allow colleges to hire people to play for the school, without having to be students there. They would only get paid for their job as a college athlete. No education component, If they want to go to the school they would have to apply there like a regular student, and meet certain gpa requirements to get scholarships. There should be an age restriction of 16-23.
FCS is still very much NOT like FBS - great competition fueled guys trying to make it, very few NIL deals AND a AWESOME play off system.
Great now tuition goes up while federal loan money colleges receive from student loans gets used on million dollar quarterbacks.
Shouldn’t be an issue at all!
No more taking advantage of students. And the billions they generate
And now the best college teams will be the ones who pay the most. Goodbye most midwest sports teams, at least competitively.
Don’t see how reinvesting all the revenue back into the athletic programs is taking advantage of students. Ohio state for example had $279M in revenue but had $275M in expenses. That means the entirety of what could go to students in cash across all sports would be $5M… Ohio state only made $5M out of $279M and they actually budgeted to use exactly what they had made the year before. Meaning they planned to spend everything they thought they’d make but they were able to make a little more than they expected. They spent nearly $8M on non-traveling meals for their student athletes last year and $24M on student aid. That’s $24M of benefits being paid directly to student athletes.
When D1 schools build state of the art training facility that’s for the student, fancy locker rooms, restaurants, barber shops, arcades, rehab facilities, trainers, top notch coaching, team doctors, meals, first class travel, hotel stays, apparel, all the outrageous gear and equipment they wear on game days, some schools buy players suits to wear, and it’s not just football that benefits from these things it’s most of the teams to some degree are benefitting. All of these things are huge benefits to students…
Objectively, these schools aren’t taking advantage of anyone…
@@ryand5725ya don’t try convincing people that think D1 athletes are taken advantage of it’s like taking to a wall
It's more of the Wild West and I love it this is the start of the NCAA crumbling
Great so now you can cut them for non performance like pros . Let’s see how that goes.
I am all for NIL, but this sounds like it is going to turn bad. Implementing a massive change like this in a system that already exists is almost impossible to do correctly.
nil has nothing to do with it, nil is for an individual to use his name likeness to get sponsor deals.
Schools been paying players