It’s funny I found your channel today as I just bought one of your tuners a few days ago. I was lucky enough to get my Coup de Grace in a few months ago and love everything about it. Great video on some of the aspects of this action.
I am seriously considering this action BECAUSE of interchangeable bolt faces. I want modularity so I’m not buying stocks, triggers, bolts etcetera. Especially after having to buy a .445 bolt and a .473 bolt to go with the .390 bolt I got with my Curtis Axiom .223 barreled action I bought. $1100 for the action/ bolt combo and $450 each additional bolt times 2 comes to $2000. I could get this action/ bolt combo for $900 and 2 bolt heads at $175 each times 2 and pay $1250 vs $2000 on the Curtis. The Curtis does not have the integral lug or rail, no adjustable trigger hanger or AW mag cut. So to the guy who wanted to know why $900 I say HOW? How could they build such a feature rich action for 500-600 less than others that can’t even compare? Guess who’s buying one? 😂
Mr. Hipp. I'm looking at the CDG and the Solus. Solus for the money, and CDG for the quality. I'm not an expert at all, nor do I have the two actions in hand. But from what I can see (and find) these two have a lot in common. One just has more attention to quality done. Is that a fair assesment, or is it much deeper than that?
They are quite a bit different in their design and engineering. The Solus is a standard 60deg 3lug action. The CDG is a fat bolt design with cantilevered style extraction or standard rem style but trust my you want the cantilevered handle. Also the materials used on the components are also different. The CDG has more features, better design and higher quality action all around.
An adjustable trigger hanger is a cool feature. But I feel trigger timing is something alot of people don't know enough about. That they should actually be adjusting it. Next thing they wont have enough pin fall and will start getting inconsistent ignition.
Anyone buying a custom action is most likely having a smith build their rifle who would adjust it for them. If they choose to fiddle with it afterwards then thats on them. Adjustable trigger hangers offer the most flexibility to get proper timing with different trigger brands
Ordering one of these for the XYLO chassis I just received for a .308win build. I also just found out that MPA PMR PRO II's are shipping with the CDG as well.
How much pressure once assembled as a rifle is it to open and close the action? I would like to build another bench rifle but my disappointment with some actions is how much it upsets the rifle in the bags and going off target.
@Mauro Magrassi Thats because he has to be overly cautious for liability reasons only as a business. Ive run 6-7oz triggers in Nucleus, Archimedias, Coup de Grace etc for years.
Im confused on ARC's site and their videos (yours included), they recommend not to run the TriggerTech triggers, but both your videos show the action with those triggers. So is it good to go?
@aaronhippATS no you didn't, ARC website said not to use TT with pivoting bolt handles. So I'm confused with your demonstration showing nothing wrong with the light trigger
"We suggest using fixed bolt handles for Trigger Tech Diamonds, Bix'N Andy Tac Sport Pro, and other ultra-lightweight triggers." Thats all the website says about TT. Not sure where you saw what you're claiming to have seen.
@Kylef7735 exactly, it is saying to use the fixed handle so the opposite is true, not to use the pivoting handle. I believe it is saying that concerning Alam fire but in the video he is demonstrating this isn't an issue. On their videos same thing. So why are they recommending the fixed handle?
@@aaronhippATS Thanks for answering this question. You mentioned the fat bolt head in the video and I was expecting you to indicate what that means for the action buyer, pros, cons etc., but you blew right by it. At least you covered it here. Other than that, it was a great review of the Coup de Grace. Thank you.👍
Why would it need hammered down? The only way you would hammer down is if youre trying to shove an oversized round in the chamber which you dont do and would be no different than any other action
In the prone it's a lot easier to pull back on the bolt than it is to force the lift. It's about changing the direction of effort to a more convenient/efficient direction. Cool concept... practical? I don't know. Maybe.
the only thing i can say so far is arc sure doesnt keep you updated on anything after you have order one i order one in feb. still not got it and havent heard anything from them about it looks to me like they could update people on what is going on but guess they have to just make friends and pros. happy not the no body's that order from them
ARC is a sizable company. They provide estimates at time of order but to provide ongoing updates is extremely time consuming and would only delay things further. In order to deliver products you need to be able to focus on the manufacturing of them.
@@aaronhippATS well thats all good but a five minutes to add a update to the wed site isnt much time consuming and when i preorder they was no time set and i looked for a wait but then i see people on here showing how they are getting their action will not looking good from my end and i have had the barrel here waiting for weeks already but hey its all good you are tied in with them so its all good
what i was trying to say is i would not think they send everyone a update but five minutes to put one on the wed site saying short action will be shipping in so many weeks or days long action should be shipping in this time how hard would that be i mean come on man
@randall3241 it's unfortunately not that easy as all parts are not completed at the same time. Things are made in batches and fulfilled in order of when they were placed.
@aaronhippATS no. Your wrong , the removable bolt head makes it designed like a savage , it's not a feature, selling with multiple vlots for different bolt face diameters would be a feature , a removable bolt head is a cop out seen on junk ass savage rifles .
@aaronhippATS very aware and yes you are wrong , its cop out monet saver , not a feature in any way , your just too stupid and buy into marketing /, what your told to believe .
Comparing any ARC action, regardless of features, to a Savage action is like comparing a Ferrari to a Hyundai!!!! ARC builds “Top Shelf” actions, not mass produced mediocre actions. Do your homework before making an ignorant statement such as this.
Best feature of this action is the price. Hard to beat with the features it has. All for $899 and as custom actions go that is pretty darn good
this is why I bought the Archimedes and love that action. Ted is doing huge things in the bolt world. I love the CDG being able to do both
Excellent review. You really covered the features really well. I'm sold.
man inflation went up fast 899.00 when video was released 1 year ago now there 1199.00 and 1299.00 for light model love the design simple
It’s funny I found your channel today as I just bought one of your tuners a few days ago. I was lucky enough to get my Coup de Grace in a few months ago and love everything about it. Great video on some of the aspects of this action.
I am seriously considering this action BECAUSE of interchangeable bolt faces. I want modularity so I’m not buying stocks, triggers, bolts etcetera.
Especially after having to buy a .445 bolt and a .473 bolt to go with the .390 bolt I got with my Curtis Axiom .223 barreled action I bought. $1100 for the action/ bolt combo and $450 each additional bolt times 2 comes to $2000. I could get this action/ bolt combo for $900 and 2 bolt heads at $175 each times 2 and pay $1250 vs $2000 on the Curtis. The Curtis does not have the integral lug or rail, no adjustable trigger hanger or AW mag cut.
So to the guy who wanted to know why $900 I say HOW? How could they build such a feature rich action for 500-600 less than others that can’t even compare?
Guess who’s buying one? 😂
I just did! 🤣😂 one for my wife as well!
Ted had said in his video that the Triggertech diamond is recommended to use the static bolt handle.
Just ran across this action today. Will be picking one up soon
Hi Aaron, will this action run the BR family cartridges well?
This is cheaper than Nucleus, with more features packed in. How does that even work? Like, what did you guys do to make it happen?
Mr. Hipp. I'm looking at the CDG and the Solus. Solus for the money, and CDG for the quality. I'm not an expert at all, nor do I have the two actions in hand. But from what I can see (and find) these two have a lot in common. One just has more attention to quality done. Is that a fair assesment, or is it much deeper than that?
They are quite a bit different in their design and engineering. The Solus is a standard 60deg 3lug action. The CDG is a fat bolt design with cantilevered style extraction or standard rem style but trust my you want the cantilevered handle. Also the materials used on the components are also different. The CDG has more features, better design and higher quality action all around.
@@aaronhippATS Thanks, CDG for the win, will have one in hand in the next month or so.
An adjustable trigger hanger is a cool feature. But I feel trigger timing is something alot of people don't know enough about. That they should actually be adjusting it. Next thing they wont have enough pin fall and will start getting inconsistent ignition.
Anyone buying a custom action is most likely having a smith build their rifle who would adjust it for them. If they choose to fiddle with it afterwards then thats on them. Adjustable trigger hangers offer the most flexibility to get proper timing with different trigger brands
Its not really that hard.
That's what youtube is for lol
Does this fit the Remington 700 footprint? This is interesting, what is the weight of the action?😊
Yes it does. Check out americanriflecompany.com for all the specs
Ordering one of these for the XYLO chassis I just received for a .308win build. I also just found out that MPA PMR PRO II's are shipping with the CDG as well.
What bottom metal will it accept , do you need to pull the trigger to remove the bolt?
It has its own bolt release. You can find the full specs at americanriflecompany.com
Will the action use a Rem-age or Savage style barrel with a barrel nut?
No. The bolt face I'd a conical design. In short action.
Magnums may be a option
Excuse my ignorance but what does the adjustable sear engagement do when it comes to the trigger hanger
What is the best mag to use? I heard one works better than the rest???
Standard AI mags work just fine. The best AW mag imo is the new GrayOps CNC mag.
How much pressure once assembled as a rifle is it to open and close the action? I would like to build another bench rifle but my disappointment with some actions is how much it upsets the rifle in the bags and going off target.
Oh daddy like😂 the price is precision for the quality!
Hey Aaron, will you run a light ( you said 6 oz) trigger with the pivoting BH in comps? Thanks for this. Eager to get mine and shoot it.
I've run 6oz triggers in interchangeable bolts heads for years.
@@aaronhippATS I asked because ARC recommends the fixed bolt handle with light triggers…
@Mauro Magrassi Thats because he has to be overly cautious for liability reasons only as a business. Ive run 6-7oz triggers in Nucleus, Archimedias, Coup de Grace etc for years.
Would love to see a polished or uncoated option, and I hope the bolt knob is interchangeable.
Im confused on ARC's site and their videos (yours included), they recommend not to run the TriggerTech triggers, but both your videos show the action with those triggers. So is it good to go?
I never recommended not to use TT. I use 100% TT
@aaronhippATS no you didn't, ARC website said not to use TT with pivoting bolt handles. So I'm confused with your demonstration showing nothing wrong with the light trigger
"We suggest using fixed bolt handles for Trigger Tech Diamonds, Bix'N Andy Tac Sport Pro, and other ultra-lightweight triggers." Thats all the website says about TT. Not sure where you saw what you're claiming to have seen.
@Kylef7735 exactly, it is saying to use the fixed handle so the opposite is true, not to use the pivoting handle. I believe it is saying that concerning Alam fire but in the video he is demonstrating this isn't an issue. On their videos same thing. So why are they recommending the fixed handle?
@@InkwellFotoI’m interested in hearing the answer too and I’m struggling to understand why your question is apparently so difficult to comprehend lol
Will this action fit in a stock inletted for a normal R700 action or does it require a custom inlet?
@@tonydamato82 700 footprint
Will probably go with one of these for my new 22CM.Right now I've got to get over that bolt knob first.
Once you run that bolt knob it will quickly become your favorite
Where is the safty swith at.id like to know? Ive only chot mausers before!
The safety in built into the trigger
Are these available for $899 anywhere now?
@@anthonylambert404 i believe prices have gone up since the original post.
What is the benefit of a fat bolt?
Feeding and strength
@@aaronhippATS Thanks for answering this question. You mentioned the fat bolt head in the video and I was expecting you to indicate what that means for the action buyer, pros, cons etc., but you blew right by it. At least you covered it here. Other than that, it was a great review of the Coup de Grace. Thank you.👍
Might never need hammered up but might need hammered back so what is the advantage ?
Why would it need hammered down? The only way you would hammer down is if youre trying to shove an oversized round in the chamber which you dont do and would be no different than any other action
In the prone it's a lot easier to pull back on the bolt than it is to force the lift. It's about changing the direction of effort to a more convenient/efficient direction.
Cool concept... practical? I don't know. Maybe.
These work with Savage barrels and nuts?
No
@@jeremystandke688 Strange, I've been told it does since I asked my question. By people using it that way.
@czgunner the CDG need a conical counterbore. The Nucleus will use a savage prefit.
@@jeremystandke688 Thanks for the info.
NICE.
Never pounded in a trigger pin on a 700 type action , light tap sure , hammered no .
But why is it $900???
That's actually extremely cheap for a integral rail, integral lug action. Let alone all of the other features
@@aaronhippATS exactly! I think I'm going to start a 300 NM build this week.
It is not prononce like fois gras.
Its pronounced grassss.! Stretch that S
coop de grass
IMO, IS THE ACTION ALUMINUM - 6061 OR 70 SERIES ;
OR IS IT OUT OF
416 STAINLESS ?
IS THE BOLT
4140CHROME MOLY ; OR
WHAT ALLOY OF
STAINLESS ?
It is not aluminum. ARC keeps the exact material confidential.
the only thing i can say so far is arc sure doesnt keep you updated on anything after you have order one i order one in feb. still not got it and havent heard anything from them about it looks to me like they could update people on what is going on but guess they have to just make friends and pros. happy not the no body's that order from them
ARC is a sizable company. They provide estimates at time of order but to provide ongoing updates is extremely time consuming and would only delay things further. In order to deliver products you need to be able to focus on the manufacturing of them.
@@aaronhippATS well thats all good but a five minutes to add a update to the wed site isnt much time consuming and when i preorder they was no time set and i looked for a wait but then i see people on here showing how they are getting their action will not looking good from my end and i have had the barrel here waiting for weeks already but hey its all good you are tied in with them so its all good
what i was trying to say is i would not think they send everyone a update but five minutes to put one on the wed site saying short action will be shipping in so many weeks or days long action should be shipping in this time how hard would that be i mean come on man
@randall3241 it's unfortunately not that easy as all parts are not completed at the same time. Things are made in batches and fulfilled in order of when they were placed.
Ted was very clear up front about the preorders and *not* providing continuous wait time updates.
Interchangeable bolt head is not a feature its a short cut , like a savage, they are cheap low end rifles and they use removable bolt heads .
Not true at all, and this isnt designed like a savage
@aaronhippATS no. Your wrong , the removable bolt head makes it designed like a savage , it's not a feature, selling with multiple vlots for different bolt face diameters would be a feature , a removable bolt head is a cop out seen on junk ass savage rifles .
@rageagainstthelibs you realize you can get ARC bolt heads supporting up to magnum bolt faces correct? Im not wrong on this. Its a feature.
@aaronhippATS very aware and yes you are wrong , its cop out monet saver , not a feature in any way , your just too stupid and buy into marketing /, what your told to believe .
Comparing any ARC action, regardless of features, to a Savage action is like comparing a Ferrari to a Hyundai!!!! ARC builds “Top Shelf” actions, not mass produced mediocre actions. Do your homework before making an ignorant statement such as this.