Amen, brother. This was and is the best space science fiction TV series ever. It is truly so sad that Mr O'Hare became too Ill to continue and that he died alone in some flop house. How many of us would have reached out to him to help him if we had known. I'll always wonder how the series would have gone on if he could have remained. R. I. P. Michael O'Hare.
Notice how he is not just asking „the two questions” but actually “the three questions”: 1. “Who are you?” (Vorlons) 2. “What do you want?” (Shadows) 3. “Why are you doing this?” (the key question that helped Sheridan resolve the First Ones arc)
FIVE. 4. "Where are you going?" Lorien's question to Sheridan at the Rim. 5. "Who do you serve, and who do you trust?" Galen's question to Capt. Gideon. Since Matt didn't know the answer, Galen decided to come along. (As if he had a choice, his clan kicked him out.)
@Justin Ebanks Not yet. It will be in season 2. But at the moment i am managing about 1 episode a week so it wil take a while to reach. But i want to do all 5 seasons in the coming year or 2.
Really, it's one of the major plot lines of the series, that the Minbari's surrendered because they determined that one human had the soul of one of their most famous historic figures. When they replaced the commander, they even created a similar backstory for the new commander so that not all of the plot arc had to be changed. I didn't watch a lot of Babylon 5 but the whole Sinclair arc was blatantly obvious and fundamental to the series.
@@johnwang9914 i know it a major plotline and i know Sincair is the one, but i always thought Morden started what do you want and the Vorlons who are you. Turns out it was Valen:)
I really missed Sinclair I really did love b5 but I never thought sherridan was as good as Sinclair. Thank you for your performance Micheal O'Hare thankfully you have peace from your demons beyond the rim.
I know what you mean. Boxleitner was clearly the more reliable and experienced actor, read smooth. But it was his very smoothness that bothered me a bit. He was always smiling. O'Hare on the other hand often seemed to suggest deeper psychological layers in his readings, even when he was stiff. You could believe he was still suffering in some way from some barely remembered trauma. No doubt this had something to do with his troubles. R.I.P Michael O'Hare.
I thought they both were great and they served their roles well, but there is a part of me that will always wonder "what if O'Hare has been able to get the help he needed back then?" The series would likely have gone in some different directions. I really never could seen Sinclair and Delenn working as a couple or Sinclair not being a bit more attentive about his surroundings than Sheridan after the blowing a Centauri cruiser to hell.
@@lamoneal I got exactly the same vibe. Sheridan seemed to have this almost constant sense of glee which was often totally at odds with the tone of the show. With a few exceptions he was a poor diplomat (frequently getting pissed and starting or encouraging rows between ambassadors) and he never really struck me as appreciating the responsibility he held. In one scene in particular he's in the war room during the shadow war; the alliance he leads is loosing the war, millions of lives are on the line and they can't work out the shadow's strategy, yet Sheridan seems to be having nothing worse than a bad day at the office. By contrast Sinclair always struck me as appreciating that he was responsible for a station of a quarter of a million people, how a single misjudgement in the council could cause a war that would kill millions and how there were a vast array of factions desperately hoping to make everything he was trying so desperately to build crash and burn. He was exactly the type of man you would put in charge of a place like Babylon 5. Sheridan Just wasn't (I think they actually say something in Sheridan's first episode about how he is basically there as a middle finger to the Mimbari). I also thought O'Hare had a certain gravitas and charisma that Boxleitner just lacked. Don't get me wrong I liked Sheridan fine, but O'Hare's Sinclair (trust me there's no way not to make that rhyme) is the perfect cast for the perfect captain
Fantastic series - War without End won a Hugo (quite rightly) and even if you've never seen B5 before, if you watch this 2 parter you will be blown away!
They did a great job at showing just how outclassed the Terran Alliance forces were....the way those Mimbari point defence beams effortlessly carved up their fighters. Would have been terrifying in their shoes.
They were no match indeed. Much more realistic then star trek where all enemies are almost equally strong. Although I like the Breen and the Gorn who seem more mystic and aggressive even more then the Klingons.
the emotional response Sinclair has to Mitchell getting killed always made me wonder what their backstory was. Maybe best buds since the academy or even before that?
At the time the B5 series was on...It was my favorite show. I've sèn every episode and every companion film. I still enjoy watching clips on RUclips. I am eager to see reboot. I just hope "they" dont f**k it up.
@@kennethmelnychuk9737 the only difference with bsg is that that one was only 1 season(not counting 1980). So there was still enough to tell. But we will see. I am very hopeful when JMS is writing it again.
@@kennethmelnychuk9737 That's what we said about Ridley Scott too before Prometheus was released. Remember, JMS can't really write a side-story to save his life. So I have my reservations. B5 doesn't need a reboot is my opinion. We'll see where it goes.
Meh I was really invested in bsg but the finale was like a kick in the nads…who was starbuck? Was the cyclon in baltars mind an angel? Who tf knows 🤷♂️
So true! Back in the 90's a close friend tried to get me into B5 (before S2 started) but I thought it was too..."hokey" I guess. Then he made me sit down and watch a couple. I kept with it, by mid S2 I NEVER missed an episode and recorded much of S4 on ye olde VHS!
I've always thought calling it a surrender is wrong. The Minbari just withdrew to their pre-war territory. They didn't give up their ships or their military. It was more of an armistice.
They offered an unconditional surrender, however, the humans didn't know how to reply so they just agreed on a white peace, basically. but it was an actual surrender. Earth just didn't capitalise on it.
@@JK-Visions Yeah, although I'm more of a B5 and ST fan. I didn't think of the reference when I commented, it was my honest thoughts. The reboot BETTER be good.
I am so freaking nervous. My hopes are not to high they like to ruin anything we hold dear and sadly I give it a 85 15 percent chance it'll be PC garbage
@@JK-Visions Yes I will rewatch "Midnight on the firing line" and "Soulhunter" sometime. Season1 aired Monday 6pm in the UK, leading a golden era of sci-fi on TV here.
Nothing wrong with Bruce B as Sheridan but there was a real presence to Sinclair that i preferred too. It came as a massive shock to hear that he was struggling to keep things together even by the end of season 1.
Has JMS ever said how he was going to weve Sinclair's story into the show? It would be interesting to see what would have happened if they didnt have to replace o'hare in season 2.. and how that would have changed the entire story.. I think bruce boxleitner was definitely a more reliable and solid actor when you watch their performances.. O'Hare is a little all over the place.. and that's not surprising when you know what he's dealing with... very sad all round.
@@jamesabernethy7896 Exactly, poor guy. I was disappointed when the credits for the finale didn't reference him...I mean he only starred in the first series and pilot...
@@Ma55ey If I recall correctly, the original plot was to have Sinclair fall in love with Delenn, and somehow a second Earth-Minbari War would break out, culminating in the destruction of B5 (the flash-forward that Sinclair had in "Babylon Squared" of B5 being breached and destroyed was actually meant to happen). Babylon 4 would then be brought forward in time and renamed Babylon Prime and, because it was a much larger station -- with engines that allowed it to travel -- it would open up the storytelling a bit more. Sinclair and Delenn were supposed to have a child and then split up, I think. The child, David, would age rapidly due to the time-traveling shenanigans, and would end up being sort of a Messianic figure but I'm a bit foggy on how that was to play out. I really prefer the way it turned out in the end: though Sinclair is absent after season one, his presence looms large over the entire series because of just how important he actually is to everything, from being Valen to being in charge of the Anla'Shok, and even just the fact that he has a happier ending than Sheridan does: Sinclair/Valen wins the first Shadow war, finds Catherine Sakai (who somehow disappears and ends up in the past), has lots of kids and lives happily ever after while Sheridan dies on Z'ha'dum and then gets brought back only to be stuck as a politician for the 20 years he's got left.
Also the minnbari got scads of earth tech in the acquisition of Babylon 4' ie weapons, scanners, computers which explains why they had such an edge over humans in the war
What a lot of people don't realise because it is buried under music and sounds effects is Sinclair's Starfury computer announcing that the Minbari weapon systems are locking on when it was pointed out a number of times that Earth Alliance scanners couldn't/can't pick up that So... Did they drop their stealth systems to taunt the Line that death was there?
Minbari Warrior Caste we’re nothing but thugs. They were all okay killing an entire species that couldn’t stop them. But when it came to fighting a proper opponent that could fight back, they chickened out.
The space battles, great as they were, they never fitted together perfectly at this point in the show. A bit like they must have cut out a lot after the fact or something. I feel as if the story of the line might have been done better. And, although improved in 'In the Beginning', I hope we find this story in the reboot. The war, in the minbari war, is an interesting conflict. And even in In the Beginning, it was shrunk down a lot.
In one of the shows, the Minbari believed in reincarnation, so Delenn believed Sinclair was reincarnated in the body of a human. Of the two races, Vorlon and Shadow, one always asked, "Who are you?", and the other, "What do you want?" THAT is why both sides, were confused about HUMANS ! That's why the 'Duality' of humanity is such a subject. JUST LIKE, how could GOD, Create a being who became Satan?
@@dayanwarna5270 In the B-5 series, station B-4, had mysteriously disappeared before the B-5 was built. Then, after Sinclair had fought in the Earth - Minbari war, they built #5. Suddenly #4 reappeared, and Sinclair, and team rediscovered it. With the help of the 'Chrysalis' rite, Sinclair 'Morphed' into Valen, and gave B-4, to the previous alliance to fight their 'Shadows War'. Luckily, I have only been a 'Spoiler', for one part of the series, You should watch it from the beginning, to see what I might have left out.
If you mean Knight 1. I looked it up for you. The actor is Judson Scott. He also played a lot in Star Trek and was the second hand of Khan. But he only played in this episode of Babylon 5. Who the minbari is that nearly killed Delenn i can not say at the moment. When i get there i will try to remember but its going to take a while;) Have fun and thanks for you question for i never realised he played in star trek that much.
You are referring to the actor who played Neroon? Sadly they are not the same actor. Interestingly enough, that role was the one that was originally written for Walter Koenig, but his heart attack and subsequent recovery time forced changes that led to a new character being written for him, Alfred Bester. Knight 2 was also almost played by Patrick McGoohan of The Prisoner fame.
The actor who played Sinclair had metal problems he was schizophrenic which is why he couldn't complete the series. Of course the actor had to complete the character Ark of Sinclair going back into the past and becoming Valen
@@JK-Visions I don't want to sound like I'm just a hater... I just don't think that they'll be able to cover as much ground in a 6-10 episode season.. i am 100% willing to give it the benefit of the doubt... I just found that my heart sank a little when i heard they were going to remake the show..
@@Ma55ey Same here it seems like just like to ruin whatever we hold dear. B5 was such an amzing story of hope and rebirth and nowadays they just do not want to promote that message. I'm guessing it'll be about race and war and sexuality with very dark sad endings.. But we can hope
@@kennethmelnychuk9737 That isn't the prophecy he meant. At this time no Minbari knew about Sinclair time traveling back to become Valen. They only knew B4 did, and they definitely didn't know about the two-step process it took for B4 to time travel back. The prophecy of Valen was Valen's own prophecy that the Minbari would find their future in another species (humans) after he returned.
@@andrewsuryali8540: do you remember when the soul hunter said to Jeff: “they are using you” or when Delenn said to Jeff: “we were right about you”. I think that she suspected all along since the time the trilluminary shined at him and the reason why the mimbari government stated that they wanted him as commander of B5. Also, Zathras mentioned him as the beginning of the story (the ONE that was)
That struck me as well. But even if they didn't know he'd become Valen, they stopped the whole war over not wanting to kill people like Sinclair. Surely that would protect Sinclair in this case too. So either this bit of dialogue is inconsistent with the rest of the lore, or that particular Minbari was simply making a very bad decision and would get torn a new one by his peers.
Ok, what didn't you like about it? You could start at the end of the season wit the last 2 episodes and then season 2. I really started liking the series from then on.
Michael O'Hare - you where the one that captured our hearts as Sinclair. You may have passed beyond the Rim, but you'll never be forgotten!
Amen, brother. This was and is the best space science fiction TV series ever. It is truly so sad that Mr O'Hare became too Ill to continue and that he died alone in some flop house. How many of us would have reached out to him to help him if we had known. I'll always wonder how the series would have gone on if he could have remained. R. I. P. Michael O'Hare.
Goodbye, old friend
@@johnhenry524 all alone in the night
RIP Commander Sinclair , you are still alive in our hearts forever
Goodbye, old friend.
Notice how he is not just asking „the two questions” but actually “the three questions”:
1. “Who are you?” (Vorlons)
2. “What do you want?” (Shadows)
3. “Why are you doing this?” (the key question that helped Sheridan resolve the First Ones arc)
I never noticed. But you are right. There are always 3 sides to a coin.
That's JMS for you-setting up the dominos before you even know there's a game going on.
Just needs 1 more question and it's Passover! :D
FIVE.
4. "Where are you going?" Lorien's question to Sheridan at the Rim.
5. "Who do you serve, and who do you trust?" Galen's question to Capt. Gideon. Since Matt didn't know the answer, Galen decided to come along. (As if he had a choice, his clan kicked him out.)
@@Nighthawke70 6. Where are the Swedish meatballs. Everyone everywhere.
I hadn't thought about how (not intentionally) cruel it was, the repeated theme that Sinclair had a "Hole in his mind" :( :(
RIP Michael O'Hare.
Absolutely. I never realized Sinclair started asking who are you and what do you want at the grey counsel. Amazing!
@Justin Ebanks Not yet. It will be in season 2. But at the moment i am managing about 1 episode a week so it wil take a while to reach. But i want to do all 5 seasons in the coming year or 2.
Really, it's one of the major plot lines of the series, that the Minbari's surrendered because they determined that one human had the soul of one of their most famous historic figures. When they replaced the commander, they even created a similar backstory for the new commander so that not all of the plot arc had to be changed. I didn't watch a lot of Babylon 5 but the whole Sinclair arc was blatantly obvious and fundamental to the series.
@@johnwang9914 i know it a major plotline and i know Sincair is the one, but i always thought Morden started what do you want and the Vorlons who are you. Turns out it was Valen:)
You think it ties into the Vorlons and Shadows "questions"?
@@kevin-l7r7p maybe, but i never noticed. i will go through some episode guide books tomorrow to try and find out;)
I really missed Sinclair I really did love b5 but I never thought sherridan was as good as Sinclair. Thank you for your performance Micheal O'Hare thankfully you have peace from your demons beyond the rim.
I know what you mean. Boxleitner was clearly the more reliable and experienced actor, read smooth. But it was his very smoothness that bothered me a bit. He was always smiling. O'Hare on the other hand often seemed to suggest deeper psychological layers in his readings, even when he was stiff. You could believe he was still suffering in some way from some barely remembered trauma. No doubt this had something to do with his troubles. R.I.P Michael O'Hare.
I thought they both were great and they served their roles well, but there is a part of me that will always wonder "what if O'Hare has been able to get the help he needed back then?"
The series would likely have gone in some different directions. I really never could seen Sinclair and Delenn working as a couple or Sinclair not being a bit more attentive about his surroundings than Sheridan after the blowing a Centauri cruiser to hell.
@@InfernosReaper Agree Sheridan is B5
@@lamoneal I got exactly the same vibe. Sheridan seemed to have this almost constant sense of glee which was often totally at odds with the tone of the show. With a few exceptions he was a poor diplomat (frequently getting pissed and starting or encouraging rows between ambassadors) and he never really struck me as appreciating the responsibility he held. In one scene in particular he's in the war room during the shadow war; the alliance he leads is loosing the war, millions of lives are on the line and they can't work out the shadow's strategy, yet Sheridan seems to be having nothing worse than a bad day at the office.
By contrast Sinclair always struck me as appreciating that he was responsible for a station of a quarter of a million people, how a single misjudgement in the council could cause a war that would kill millions and how there were a vast array of factions desperately hoping to make everything he was trying so desperately to build crash and burn. He was exactly the type of man you would put in charge of a place like Babylon 5. Sheridan Just wasn't (I think they actually say something in Sheridan's first episode about how he is basically there as a middle finger to the Mimbari). I also thought O'Hare had a certain gravitas and charisma that Boxleitner just lacked.
Don't get me wrong I liked Sheridan fine, but O'Hare's Sinclair (trust me there's no way not to make that rhyme) is the perfect cast for the perfect captain
@@pioneer_1148 He was a cowboy
Rest in Peace, beyond the rim Michael, you earned it. All of you will be missed.
Fantastic series - War without End won a Hugo (quite rightly) and even if you've never seen B5 before, if you watch this 2 parter you will be blown away!
i have;) its amazing!
They did a great job at showing just how outclassed the Terran Alliance forces were....the way those Mimbari point defence beams effortlessly carved up their fighters. Would have been terrifying in their shoes.
They were no match indeed. Much more realistic then star trek where all enemies are almost equally strong. Although I like the Breen and the Gorn who seem more mystic and aggressive even more then the Klingons.
Guerrilla warfare.
Michael O'Hare did such a great job as Sinclair. And those Sharlins are really intimidating ships.
the emotional response Sinclair has to Mitchell getting killed always made me wonder what their backstory was. Maybe best buds since the academy or even before that?
The comics (which are cannon..these ones anyay) show them meeting on Mars when Garabaldi was a drunk, it seems they met then and got tight.
At the time the B5 series was on...It was my favorite show. I've sèn every episode and every companion film. I still enjoy watching clips on RUclips.
I am eager to see reboot. I just hope "they" dont f**k it up.
As long as they have JMS input, I think that it will be great, just like BSG reboot
Me too.
@@kennethmelnychuk9737 the only difference with bsg is that that one was only 1 season(not counting 1980). So there was still enough to tell. But we will see. I am very hopeful when JMS is writing it again.
@@kennethmelnychuk9737 That's what we said about Ridley Scott too before Prometheus was released.
Remember, JMS can't really write a side-story to save his life. So I have my reservations.
B5 doesn't need a reboot is my opinion.
We'll see where it goes.
Meh I was really invested in bsg but the finale was like a kick in the nads…who was starbuck? Was the cyclon in baltars mind an angel? Who tf knows 🤷♂️
And it involved B4 the callbacks are amazing in this series!
That was epic. Never saw that one coming. As for many things lol
So true! Back in the 90's a close friend tried to get me into B5 (before S2 started) but I thought it was too..."hokey" I guess. Then he made me sit down and watch a couple. I kept with it, by mid S2 I NEVER missed an episode and recorded much of S4 on ye olde VHS!
Thanks for the upload~! I remember seeing/recording this onto VHS as a kid, and it always gave me chills near the end.
Thanks! I am not sure I saw it on VHS but for sure on DVD.
I've always thought calling it a surrender is wrong. The Minbari just withdrew to their pre-war territory. They didn't give up their ships or their military. It was more of an armistice.
Yes it was actually a retreat. They were unbeatable except for the Black Star.
@@JK-Visions
The moral of the Black Star (and the final battle in the Shadow war) is that all the tech in the World can be equalised with a few nukes.
They offered an unconditional surrender, however, the humans didn't know how to reply so they just agreed on a white peace, basically.
but it was an actual surrender. Earth just didn't capitalise on it.
Such a brilliant series.
They better do this series justice in the reboot or there will be hell to pay...
Ehmm that's a Uncle Owen quote;) And you know what happened to the last Jedi.
@@JK-Visions Yeah, although I'm more of a B5 and ST fan. I didn't think of the reference when I commented, it was my honest thoughts. The reboot BETTER be good.
@@JK-Visions last jedi? My friend you must be confused, come, let emperor roan fel's empire offer you a nice drink, you look like you had a nightmare
I'd rather they just leave it the fuck alone, zero chance they will do any kind of justice to B5
I am so freaking nervous. My hopes are not to high they like to ruin anything we hold dear and sadly I give it a 85 15 percent chance it'll be PC garbage
The first few episodes are quite humdrum. But I was blown away by "The sky full of stars" which is the first taste of the heights the show reached.
I agree, but i do feel the first episodes get better after more rewatching.
@@JK-Visions Yes I will rewatch "Midnight on the firing line" and "Soulhunter" sometime. Season1 aired Monday 6pm in the UK, leading a golden era of sci-fi on TV here.
I'm beyond happy that B5 is coming back😛😛
I really prefer Michael o hare as the lead, such a shame what happened to him :(
Nothing wrong with Bruce B as Sheridan but there was a real presence to Sinclair that i preferred too. It came as a massive shock to hear that he was struggling to keep things together even by the end of season 1.
Has JMS ever said how he was going to weve Sinclair's story into the show? It would be interesting to see what would have happened if they didnt have to replace o'hare in season 2.. and how that would have changed the entire story.. I think bruce boxleitner was definitely a more reliable and solid actor when you watch their performances.. O'Hare is a little all over the place.. and that's not surprising when you know what he's dealing with... very sad all round.
@@jamesabernethy7896 Exactly, poor guy. I was disappointed when the credits for the finale didn't reference him...I mean he only starred in the first series and pilot...
@troy Ferrington sorry I meant in the original.. as in what would have happened if o'hare had stayed on for the full run..
@@Ma55ey If I recall correctly, the original plot was to have Sinclair fall in love with Delenn, and somehow a second Earth-Minbari War would break out, culminating in the destruction of B5 (the flash-forward that Sinclair had in "Babylon Squared" of B5 being breached and destroyed was actually meant to happen). Babylon 4 would then be brought forward in time and renamed Babylon Prime and, because it was a much larger station -- with engines that allowed it to travel -- it would open up the storytelling a bit more. Sinclair and Delenn were supposed to have a child and then split up, I think. The child, David, would age rapidly due to the time-traveling shenanigans, and would end up being sort of a Messianic figure but I'm a bit foggy on how that was to play out.
I really prefer the way it turned out in the end: though Sinclair is absent after season one, his presence looms large over the entire series because of just how important he actually is to everything, from being Valen to being in charge of the Anla'Shok, and even just the fact that he has a happier ending than Sheridan does: Sinclair/Valen wins the first Shadow war, finds Catherine Sakai (who somehow disappears and ends up in the past), has lots of kids and lives happily ever after while Sheridan dies on Z'ha'dum and then gets brought back only to be stuck as a politician for the 20 years he's got left.
Also the minnbari got scads of earth tech in the acquisition of Babylon 4' ie weapons, scanners, computers which explains why they had such an edge over humans in the war
@Robert P the minbari got a jump on earth tech with the acquisition of Babylon 4.
@@davidpickens8800 ... the Minbari were WAY ahead of B4 tech, not sure what you mean.
@@SamuelPearlman B4 gave the minbari a 1000 year jump ahead of Earth in tech.
@@davidpickens8800 oh I get it
Doubt it. During the previous Shadow War, the Minbari were at least as advanced as Earth was during the series. Probably more.
He's right up their in status with Kirk..😊
RIP Mira
I’m surprised that JMS didn’t do a mini series after Velen giving the Minbari Babylon 4 station to fight the shadows in the past ...
You can ask him on twitter/x. I think that he went on to other projects after crusade didn't work. But he did make some TV movies which were great.
Amazing plot. Sincleir was actually the Minbari's prophet Valen who helped win the bigger war againt the ancient Shadows.
The truth points to itself
What a lot of people don't realise because it is buried under music and sounds effects is Sinclair's Starfury computer announcing that the Minbari weapon systems are locking on when it was pointed out a number of times that Earth Alliance scanners couldn't/can't pick up that
So... Did they drop their stealth systems to taunt the Line that death was there?
I think they did yes.
the best commander ever
Well I liked Sheridan too and stinky:)
@@JK-Visions "stinky", is that your name for Scoggins?
The mimbari were fighting the shadows in a interstellar war while Earth was in the middle ages, the crusades, genhis khan
I assume that the defence satellites of earth was either not yet made or was less developed compared to the civil war era.
Minbari Warrior Caste we’re nothing but thugs. They were all okay killing an entire species that couldn’t stop them. But when it came to fighting a proper opponent that could fight back, they chickened out.
That's what Sheridan said to them but they were not willing to admit it.
The space battles, great as they were, they never fitted together perfectly at this point in the show. A bit like they must have cut out a lot after the fact or something. I feel as if the story of the line might have been done better. And, although improved in 'In the Beginning', I hope we find this story in the reboot. The war, in the minbari war, is an interesting conflict. And even in In the Beginning, it was shrunk down a lot.
What do you want? - Shadows
Who are you? - Vorlons
Why are you doing this? - Humanity
So many of the cast members have passed..😥
In one of the shows, the Minbari believed in reincarnation, so Delenn believed Sinclair was reincarnated in the body of a human. Of the two races, Vorlon and Shadow, one always asked, "Who are you?", and the other, "What do you want?" THAT is why both sides, were confused about HUMANS ! That's why the 'Duality' of humanity is such a subject. JUST LIKE, how could GOD, Create a being who became Satan?
Didnt he go back in time and steal babylon 4 to lead the alliance in the previous shadow war?
This he was their ancient hero, not an incarnation!
@@dayanwarna5270 In the B-5 series, station B-4, had mysteriously disappeared before the B-5 was built. Then, after Sinclair had fought in the Earth - Minbari war, they built #5. Suddenly #4 reappeared, and Sinclair, and team rediscovered it. With the help of the 'Chrysalis' rite, Sinclair 'Morphed' into Valen, and gave B-4, to the previous alliance to fight their 'Shadows War'. Luckily, I have only been a 'Spoiler', for one part of the series, You should watch it from the beginning, to see what I might have left out.
@@dennispersson9466 i watched it about 10 years ago and sketchy on the details :)
Might watch again
Cheers
Minbari: He can never know what happened.
Several Months later
Minbari: So anyway we told him what happened.
Yeah and the wanted to kill him? And he is the one. A bit weird.
They stopped fighting because the commander had the soul of a Minbari..😊
He began the minbari holy Trinity. I hate time stuff but JMS made it really cool.
Oh see how judge gathers Intel, as commander, line vanishing. One by one, glow of microchip,at me. Close face near now always grey concealer... John.
You are a great poet;) Thanks!
I find it interesting that he said that he was messed up and delusional, when this was happening to him in real life at the time
The question will always be, was he acting or not. I think both. Because his acting was better in the beginning of the season.
At 0:10 the actor in the background, wasn't he that warrior minbari that nearly killed the ranger protecting Delenn?
If you mean Knight 1. I looked it up for you. The actor is Judson Scott. He also played a lot in Star Trek and was the second hand of Khan. But he only played in this episode of Babylon 5. Who the minbari is that nearly killed Delenn i can not say at the moment. When i get there i will try to remember but its going to take a while;)
Have fun and thanks for you question for i never realised he played in star trek that much.
@@JK-Visions the voice sounds so much like the warrior that beat the crap out of the ranger! 😂
You are referring to the actor who played Neroon? Sadly they are not the same actor. Interestingly enough, that role was the one that was originally written for Walter Koenig, but his heart attack and subsequent recovery time forced changes that led to a new character being written for him, Alfred Bester. Knight 2 was also almost played by Patrick McGoohan of The Prisoner fame.
No, that Minbari was Neroon, played by John Vickery. He also played Mr Welles, the creepy Nightwatch guy.
he is the "One" of the past.
Apparently they are going to reboot this series
"He must be Killed" .. but Minbari do not kill Minbari
Is there going to be a part 3? and who Sinclair is a reincarnation of?
I don't think so. But the story isn't finished so it will continue though not with the same name probably.
If you watch season 3 you will see who Sinclair is. I will make a video when I get there.
Tilsaad is who Sinclair was reincarnated in to.
"As was prophesied."
So thats the reasons why he got crazy in reality....
The actor who played Sinclair had metal problems he was schizophrenic which is why he couldn't complete the series. Of course the actor had to complete the character Ark of Sinclair going back into the past and becoming Valen
Yes it's actually amazing how professional he was until the end.
If he didn't remember why the visit
Yeah time travel sucks but at least in B5 it's doable.
The one.
and to think they're going to ruin this show with a reboot....
50/50 i guess
@@JK-Visions I don't want to sound like I'm just a hater... I just don't think that they'll be able to cover as much ground in a 6-10 episode season.. i am 100% willing to give it the benefit of the doubt... I just found that my heart sank a little when i heard they were going to remake the show..
JMS owns the reboot. Consider it a new JMS series with the same name.
@@Ma55ey Same here it seems like just like to ruin whatever we hold dear. B5 was such an amzing story of hope and rebirth and nowadays they just do not want to promote that message. I'm guessing it'll be about race and war and sexuality with very dark sad endings.. But we can hope
BSG was successful in a reinterpretation so no reason this can’t be as good .
Wow that cleared up nothing.
Hello old friend ….
zathras;)
New Babylon 5 series Should be a Animated series
If it's like clone wars it would be ok.
@@JK-Visions Animated it like Justice league cartoon or batman movies
They were going to kill Valen?
Yes not all agreed on the profecy of Valen.
@@JK-Visions; I’m not sure if they knew that Jeff was/will be Valen but maybe some (Deleon) suspected?
@@kennethmelnychuk9737 That isn't the prophecy he meant. At this time no Minbari knew about Sinclair time traveling back to become Valen. They only knew B4 did, and they definitely didn't know about the two-step process it took for B4 to time travel back. The prophecy of Valen was Valen's own prophecy that the Minbari would find their future in another species (humans) after he returned.
@@andrewsuryali8540: do you remember when the soul hunter said to Jeff: “they are using you” or when Delenn said to Jeff: “we were right about you”.
I think that she suspected all along since the time the trilluminary shined at him and the reason why the mimbari government stated that they wanted him as commander of B5.
Also, Zathras mentioned him as the beginning of the story (the ONE that was)
That struck me as well. But even if they didn't know he'd become Valen, they stopped the whole war over not wanting to kill people like Sinclair. Surely that would protect Sinclair in this case too.
So either this bit of dialogue is inconsistent with the rest of the lore, or that particular Minbari was simply making a very bad decision and would get torn a new one by his peers.
I tried to watch it but couldn’t,,not my type of SciFi…
Ok, what didn't you like about it? You could start at the end of the season wit the last 2 episodes and then season 2. I really started liking the series from then on.
@@JK-Visions It felt cheap and bland,not mine cup of tea 🍵 it’s been long time ago I don’t even remember it…
@@ilijabosnjak76 yes they didnt have much of a budget. Perhpas the new series will be better;)
First season was painfully hard to watch but it does improve greatly .
But I’ve always liked cheesy sci-fi , l even like watching old B&W sci-fi .
A great actor gone to soon..😢
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The reboot will be filled w/ new age - like LGBTQ+ who date anything from rocks to jelly fish -
Could be interesting;) With aliens anything is possible lol
Dear god no...
literally that is all I thought its not gonna be about hope and unity its gonna be about how bad humans are.
Looking back that was some terrible acting. Loved it but terrible.
This is Sinclair's secret.