Funny how soon after that she realized that she knew Valen personally. She was both descended from, and friends with, Valen. And actually yes, this was very central to the plot of the whole series. One of the most important plot points they had.
*¡remembering Mira Furlan (1955 - 2021 at 65 years old) who was the Minbari leader Delenn on the television program Babylon5! - 8:34 PM Pacific Standard Time on Saturday, 8 January 2022*
Wishful thinking. Mankind will destroy itself or something will do it. If you add Nazism, Communism, Crime, Christian Supremacy and Islamic Supremacy together you get what is the real Human spirit. I remember in 1964 A woman was murdered while idiots watched from windows doing nothing. 2019 3 trans influencers were attacked and the crowd was enjoying it. In 1979 I had a rule make science fiction as negative as I can get it. Negativity is actually reality. In the time it took me to type this about 10 women had experienced violence. Multiple people had been shot and hundreds of homes had break in and home invasions.
When people ask me why I love this show, I point them towards scenes like this one. Outstanding writing, master class level acting, and incredible visual effects and make-up. This is the way TV sci-fi should be done. 👽💯👽💯👽🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Delenn: I will, never again, see the inner chamber of The Grey Council. Also Delenn: *walks into inner chamber, chews them out, and then leaves with 2/3 of them, after breaking a sacred staff* At least, I think that was them. They had their faces covered when she broke the staff. Or, at least obscured.
It's a lot to watch. I used to watch a season in 2 days but my eyes were square lol. And it probably wasn't good for my vascular system as well. Be careful please;)
Honestly I remember loving this show when I was young but i just find it so hard to watch due to the limitations of the tv tech at the time just so b or c movie quality (which I don’t hate but just find hard to watch now as it’s jarring)
"We are surrounded by Signs and Portents, and I feel a Darkness pressing on our backs." Words that echo in the real world we live in today. A Darkness is coming and we must stand in the light it seeks to overcome Lest we lose everything that is truly important.
Yes things tend to repeat itself....though I do believe we are more united then ever this time. Unless you believe agenda 21 and the world economic forum ofcourse.
A series way ahead of the others ... its story telling is told in century's and its villains are millions of years old ... The characters especially the minbari are complex and deep and you never can tell just what's gonna happen next... Many of the cast have now passed on beyond the Rim.... I for one miss you all. ...some of the monologues especially G'kars still give me pause hearing them . Because of that great story telling B5 WILL ALWAYS BE A BEACON OF LIGHT .
No, they didn’t. But recall Londo Molari who said “Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you.” Yes, I thought, many of us certainly can be, when it comes to our perceived power in the world, and now in the galaxy. Hopefully, when we do expand out beyond our solar system, we go humbly with our curiosity and meet our galactic neighbors with respect and open minds and hearts rather than fear, hatred and guns. IDK, just a thought.
That is a universal concept everyone but the Minbari embrace. The League of Non Aligned worlds was a trading collective with the chief two members being the Narn and Centauri, two greedy nations constantly grabbing territory and demanding the other cease trade. Hence Delenn cannot really say being greedy is exclusively human.
A wondeful What-if is what if Delenn had accepted the Minbari leadership. Would the Minbari participation in the Shadow war have been larger? Would the Shadows have targetted Minbar like the Vorlons did to Centauri Prime?
"They carrie within them the capacity to walk among the stars... like giants" Yea tell that the UNSC Infinity and her trailer debut. "WE, Are the Giants now!"
Watching this, and how much the Minbari’s treatment of humanity has hinged upon prophecy, I get to theorising why some of Earth’s people, and their representatives, would become resentful of all that - not just as a cause of the Earth Alliance civil war ; I’d say that was a minor factor. But in future conflicts - particularly those which split the ISA, centuries down the line, as we see in “Deconstruction of Falling Stars”? I would say that the desire for some of humanity to reject prophecy, and all the influence that it’s had on humankind - all the lives it’s ended up costing, at the whim of Minbari rather than humans - I would say that became a major factor in an Earth secession from the ISA, all those centuries later. I don’t say this while condoning the xenophobia that we saw a lot of humans demonstrating, in the Babylon 5 series - indeed, I can see why JMS was clear enough about xenophobes generally being the bad guys, never mind my personal views on it all. But I’m saying, if you had to make a justification, which maybe toppled the first of many dominoes leading right up to the scene where the Garibaldi hologram destroys everything, then it would probably have to be that enough humans wanted to be masters of their own destiny; to choose who they would fight and die for, rather than seemingly be pawns in some mysterious Minbari agenda. I don’t know how much my theory lines up with JMS’s meta-narrative, mind.
@@JK-Visions I’d love to ask him if my theory is even remotely near the mark 😊 Or if maybe he hadn’t put any details into that part of the “far future” story at all.
Without the Minbari war the Earth Alliance would not have done such an aggresive expansion, which would have led to a much much diminished EA at the start of the 2nd Shadow War and no Babylons. With this diminished position it is very unlikely the galaxy would have come together to fight off the Shadows. In a sense, the destruction the Minbari wrought on Earth forces ended up saving the galaxy. With that in mind, I think they can take a little resentment.
@@JK-Visions unfortunately Elon may not get that far he will need political support because everything that will return to earth will quarantined or never return until we now everything about Mars that's why I think it will be another 50 years at least
Still the best hero and anti hero series there is. And if you listen to the biblical stories of Jordan B. Peterson you start to understand were JMS got a lot of the great stuff.
O don't think so. Anyone? I asked the chat gpt. It's answer was: Two Triluminaries Shown JK Visions In Babylon 5 there were mentioned 3 triluminaries . We're they all in the show? In the Babylon 5 series, the three Triluminaries were mentioned but only two of them were actually shown on screen. The Triluminary is an ancient device that was created by the First Ones, a powerful and advanced race that lived in the galaxy long before the younger races. The first Triluminary was discovered on the planet Epsilon III, and was used by the crew of Babylon 5 to activate the Great Machine, which was also created by the First Ones. This Triluminary was a small, handheld device that glowed with a blue light when activated. The second Triluminary was discovered by the Minbari during the Earth-Minbari War. This Triluminary was much larger than the first and was used by the Minbari to identify the reincarnated soul of Valen, the Minbari religious figure who had helped to create the Minbari Federation. The third Triluminary was mentioned in the series but was never actually shown on screen. Its whereabouts and purpose were never fully explained in the show.
I liked Delenn, until I finally thought about her backstory harder and realized she never paid any price for genocide against the human race, and then playing politics to allow Narn to be turned into a desolate slave colony. There's no way the relationships would be so fond and love interests with that in the background.
Thanks for your reply. It's not always about the action. I also love to make non action videos from time to time, at least the parts from the episode i like. So I don't need to watch the entire episode. But soon in season 2 there will be more action.
No, she was defending the truth. Like all fanatics, both the Vorlons and the Shadows were wrong because they had taken one element to an extreme it couldn't support. Chaos alone cannot produce anything. Order alone breeds stagnation. But chaos that upsets stagnation and then is brought to order brings growth. That is the strength of both the humans and the Minbari: their ability to grow through the cycle of chaos and order.
Never thought this could be about a small country near Polen;) I wish everyone peace and hope all suffering ends soon for all.
Funny how soon after that she realized that she knew Valen personally.
She was both descended from, and friends with, Valen.
And actually yes, this was very central to the plot of the whole series. One of the most important plot points they had.
God I miss Mira Furlan 😭
As do I my friend.
*¡remembering Mira Furlan (1955 - 2021 at 65 years old) who was the Minbari leader Delenn on the television program Babylon5! - 8:34 PM Pacific Standard Time on Saturday, 8 January 2022*
She has a much more optimistic view of humanity than I do.
Well we are not an interstellar species yet;)
"Their only weakness is, they do not recognize their own greatness."
Then you need to get out more
Such beautiful words about humanity, A positive vision of what can be. so much better than the negativity and pessimism promoted by others.
Wishful thinking. Mankind will destroy itself or something will do it. If you add Nazism, Communism, Crime, Christian Supremacy and Islamic Supremacy together you get what is the real Human spirit. I remember in 1964 A woman was murdered while idiots watched from windows doing nothing. 2019 3 trans influencers were attacked and the crowd was enjoying it. In 1979 I had a rule make science fiction as negative as I can get it. Negativity is actually reality. In the time it took me to type this about 10 women had experienced violence. Multiple people had been shot and hundreds of homes had break in and home invasions.
If only they weren't overly optimistic . . . We are well along on the Path of Shadow.
@@Lucius_Chiaraviglio I know, but there is always hope, and faith
When people ask me why I love this show, I point them towards scenes like this one. Outstanding writing, master class level acting, and incredible visual effects and make-up. This is the way TV sci-fi should be done. 👽💯👽💯👽🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I totally agree 🖖
Delenn: I will, never again, see the inner chamber of The Grey Council.
Also Delenn: *walks into inner chamber, chews them out, and then leaves with 2/3 of them, after breaking a sacred staff*
At least, I think that was them. They had their faces covered when she broke the staff. Or, at least obscured.
She is a feisty little one;)
i remember that...not feisty..she was pissed.
That was them she came in and as was prophesized by Valen the council would be broken
it was prophesy, well timey wimey stuff
Mimbari do not lie, eh?
I need to binge watch this show again over my Christmas Vacation, every character was so well written.
It's a lot to watch. I used to watch a season in 2 days but my eyes were square lol. And it probably wasn't good for my vascular system as well.
Be careful please;)
Honestly I remember loving this show when I was young but i just find it so hard to watch due to the limitations of the tv tech at the time just so b or c movie quality (which I don’t hate but just find hard to watch now as it’s jarring)
"We are surrounded by Signs and Portents, and I feel a Darkness pressing on our backs."
Words that echo in the real world we live in today. A Darkness is coming and we must stand in the light it seeks to overcome Lest we lose everything that is truly important.
Yes things tend to repeat itself....though I do believe we are more united then ever this time. Unless you believe agenda 21 and the world economic forum ofcourse.
Even if we lose, there is always hope. The truth cannot be defeated, merely suppressed for a time.
The triluminari gives me the Zelda tri-force vibe, bro.
We all miss you Mira
I hope you find the star you deserve
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A series way ahead of the others ... its story telling is told in century's and its villains are millions of years old ... The characters especially the minbari are complex and deep and you never can tell just what's gonna happen next... Many of the cast have now passed on beyond the Rim.... I for one miss you all. ...some of the monologues especially G'kars still give me pause hearing them . Because of that great story telling B5 WILL ALWAYS BE A BEACON OF LIGHT .
I'm surprised the Grey Council didn't complain how driven humans were by greed.
No, they didn’t. But recall Londo Molari who said “Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you.” Yes, I thought, many of us certainly can be, when it comes to our perceived power in the world, and now in the galaxy.
Hopefully, when we do expand out beyond our solar system, we go humbly with our curiosity and meet our galactic neighbors with respect and open minds and hearts rather than fear, hatred and guns. IDK, just a thought.
That is a universal concept everyone but the Minbari embrace. The League of Non Aligned worlds was a trading collective with the chief two members being the Narn and Centauri, two greedy nations constantly grabbing territory and demanding the other cease trade.
Hence Delenn cannot really say being greedy is exclusively human.
A wondeful What-if is what if Delenn had accepted the Minbari leadership. Would the Minbari participation in the Shadow war have been larger? Would the Shadows have targetted Minbar like the Vorlons did to Centauri Prime?
"They carrie within them the capacity to walk among the stars... like giants"
Yea tell that the UNSC Infinity and her trailer debut. "WE, Are the Giants now!"
Being a Christian, I believe that our goal can be beyond my imagination.
Remember the old Battlestar Galactica? That's a clue.
Yep;)
That I think is the Best Monologue in the Entire show .
I wish you didn't do the jump cuts in the same scene... it makes it way too jarring.
That being said, great work putting this together!
Watching this, and how much the Minbari’s treatment of humanity has hinged upon prophecy, I get to theorising why some of Earth’s people, and their representatives, would become resentful of all that - not just as a cause of the Earth Alliance civil war ; I’d say that was a minor factor. But in future conflicts - particularly those which split the ISA, centuries down the line, as we see in “Deconstruction of Falling Stars”? I would say that the desire for some of humanity to reject prophecy, and all the influence that it’s had on humankind - all the lives it’s ended up costing, at the whim of Minbari rather than humans - I would say that became a major factor in an Earth secession from the ISA, all those centuries later.
I don’t say this while condoning the xenophobia that we saw a lot of humans demonstrating, in the Babylon 5 series - indeed, I can see why JMS was clear enough about xenophobes generally being the bad guys, never mind my personal views on it all. But I’m saying, if you had to make a justification, which maybe toppled the first of many dominoes leading right up to the scene where the Garibaldi hologram destroys everything, then it would probably have to be that enough humans wanted to be masters of their own destiny; to choose who they would fight and die for, rather than seemingly be pawns in some mysterious Minbari agenda.
I don’t know how much my theory lines up with JMS’s meta-narrative, mind.
Good points. He is a very good writer and he knows histery too so i think you are right.
@@JK-Visions I’d love to ask him if my theory is even remotely near the mark 😊 Or if maybe he hadn’t put any details into that part of the “far future” story at all.
Without the Minbari war the Earth Alliance would not have done such an aggresive expansion, which would have led to a much much diminished EA at the start of the 2nd Shadow War and no Babylons. With this diminished position it is very unlikely the galaxy would have come together to fight off the Shadows.
In a sense, the destruction the Minbari wrought on Earth forces ended up saving the galaxy. With that in mind, I think they can take a little resentment.
They carry with them capacity to walk among the stars, like giants.
Until we become the giants in the playground.
But we LOVE.... that is our message.
*prophecy*
ehh yes thx i will correct it. English is not native;)
I got a picture with her before she died at phoenix comi con
Sinclair go with you and be with you...
0:29 thats what she said LOL
Lol so you come and then she ehhhh crrrrr(connection lost)
All of us humans need to work together all of us every single one of us to work together so we can walk among the stars
i hope elon musk will get us to our solar system. Goverments only work for themselves. I see him as world citizen.
@@JK-Visions unfortunately Elon may not get that far he will need political support because everything that will return to earth will quarantined or never return until we now everything about Mars that's why I think it will be another 50 years at least
Aahh delenn...never admitted to any human she was responsible for so many humans being massacred...
She probably felt sorry.
True, but she worked hard to make up for her past mistakes.
*I ❤️ BABYLON 5!!!!!*
Still the best hero and anti hero series there is. And if you listen to the biblical stories of Jordan B. Peterson you start to understand were JMS got a lot of the great stuff.
@@JK-Visions>>> Rodger that.
The minbari have beautiful ships
Are the Minbaris the equivalent of the Vulcans of StarTreks?
No, i don't think so, the minbari are more advanced. The centauri are more like the Vulcans tech wise.
@@JK-Visions but from the culture and temperament is more like Vulcans surely
Minbari have a lot of emotion though
As a direct descendant of Valen, should Delenn not light up the Truluminary?
I can't recall how its supposed to work
It only shows a human with a minbari soul. She is not human so i think it doesn't work on her.
@@JK-Visions Thanks
Me too....
at 4:15, he said there are 2 other triluminaris , where were they shown in the other episodes?
O don't think so. Anyone?
I asked the chat gpt.
It's answer was:
Two Triluminaries Shown
JK Visions
In Babylon 5 there were mentioned 3 triluminaries . We're they all in the show?
In the Babylon 5 series, the three Triluminaries were mentioned but only two of them were actually shown on screen. The Triluminary is an ancient device that was created by the First Ones, a powerful and advanced race that lived in the galaxy long before the younger races.
The first Triluminary was discovered on the planet Epsilon III, and was used by the crew of Babylon 5 to activate the Great Machine, which was also created by the First Ones. This Triluminary was a small, handheld device that glowed with a blue light when activated.
The second Triluminary was discovered by the Minbari during the Earth-Minbari War. This Triluminary was much larger than the first and was used by the Minbari to identify the reincarnated soul of Valen, the Minbari religious figure who had helped to create the Minbari Federation.
The third Triluminary was mentioned in the series but was never actually shown on screen. Its whereabouts and purpose were never fully explained in the show.
Odd that her speech about humanity is a good defense of Shadow ideology...
I guess both Vorlons and Shadows are right in some way.
Nice wow
Ahhhh! Pas de traduc "in French"....dommage, série SF exceptionnelle, merci !!
I liked Delenn, until I finally thought about her backstory harder and realized she never paid any price for genocide against the human race, and then playing politics to allow Narn to be turned into a desolate slave colony. There's no way the relationships would be so fond and love interests with that in the background.
Parece boa série, mas não atrai, muito lenta, parece novela.
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Not sure what language this is. Is it minbari?
just a lot of talking no action.
Thanks for your reply.
It's not always about the action. I also love to make non action videos from time to time, at least the parts from the episode i like. So I don't need to watch the entire episode.
But soon in season 2 there will be more action.
Its amazing how Delenn never realised she was defending the Shadows belief in chaos and evolution when describing humans.
No, she was defending the truth. Like all fanatics, both the Vorlons and the Shadows were wrong because they had taken one element to an extreme it couldn't support. Chaos alone cannot produce anything. Order alone breeds stagnation. But chaos that upsets stagnation and then is brought to order brings growth. That is the strength of both the humans and the Minbari: their ability to grow through the cycle of chaos and order.