Mudlarking the River Thames in London - A Very Mysterious Coin - Can you ID it?
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Join me as I take a mudlarking trip to the River Thames in London and search for historical artefacts from the past. On this outing I am particularly fortunate and find 3 coins. I recognise one as being Victorian but the other two are mysteries until I get home and clean them off! Can you ID them before I tell you what they are?
It's amazing what you can learn from the objects you find in the Thames mud. In this instance, I learned some interesting bits of info about the Monarchs on the coins! There are also a few other artefacts which you might be able to help me to identify!
You can follow me on twitter and instagram @tidelineart to see more of my mudlarking finds.
Thank you for watching and if you would like to buy me a virtual cup of earl grey tea (with lemon) then you can donate via my KOFI account which is here:-
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If you are tempted to try mudlarking on the River Thames then you need to have a permit from the Port of London Authority and you can find out all the details you need here:-
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Thank you.
Nicola
Nicola White
www.tidelineart.com
#mudlarking #nicolawhitemudlark
Thank you for all your wonderful comments. If you would like to see some of the stranger things that I have found in the River Thames over the years then you can check out this video ruclips.net/video/rVxncipNvvY/видео.html
Thank you Nicola. I have seen that video before but much of it was forgotten, like the turtle rib. No way was I gonna name what that was. Such an unusual find. The Fiolet pipes stir curiosity so plan to look them up searching first through the Great Exhibition. One thing leads to another.
Just as a side comment.....if you ever come to Melbourne, we have a large house with two spare rooms. You may use them to keep your accom cost down if you have a mind to. Aussies are a very friendly bunch and love to help out where we can. Our Yarra river is not much of a search area but there are lots of creeks and streams around the old gold mining areas where relics may be unearthed. Nothing as old as in England of course.
Try a bicycle tire tube repair before you buy new Wellies. Thay might work and cost much less.
So interesting😊
Good finds...why didnt you tell us more about the value of the currency and type of metal. Also the pipes what are they made from??
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I am a retired American archaeologist. Whenever you said "What do you see?" I replied "several square nails, some buttons, get that little spoon and so on. Then I realized that I was shouting at my phone. I never could walk anywhere without looking down. Love your vids.
Thank you. That made me smile!
Unbelievably, Walter Whiffin is one of my relatives. As soon as you said the name I knew he was in my family tree. He is my first cousin x5 removed. My 5th Great Grandfather who was Richard Whiffin b 21 May 1769 in Westerham Kent was Walter’s grandfather. I am an amateur genealogist and have been researching my family tree for almost 20 years so have managed to do quite a lot of research in that time. I can’t believe you found a button belonging to/made by someone in my tree. Simply amazing!
WOW, that's amazing!
Wow so great for you. Enjoy
Laura when I was many years younger I knew a family called Whiffin. They lived in a small village in Hertfordshire called Brent Pelham, I wonder if you're related to them? Stay safe. Neil Todd.
Fascinating...👍🏼
Hi Laura, Oh my goodness. That's incredible. I think you ought to have the button obviously if that is the case. Please do email me on nicola.white@tidelineart.com. That is so extraordinary. xx
My dad used to say ‘keep your eyes to the ground, you might find a pound’ 😁 nice to think your brother is throwing those coins down❤️
My mother sends all of us children pennies and dimes regularly.
I think the R White and sons bottle stopper is the proof.
Hi Nicola! the "mystery coin" is a 6 deniers piece (nominal equivalent to the English "sixpence" but bronze), this type is called "dardanne" and was struck only under Louis XIV of France (1643-1715), I think in the few last years of his reign. In the center of the triangle there is a letter, it is the mintmark, it seems to be "K", which is Bordeaux mint. They are rare in high grade but common in worn condition. I recall a "dardanne" was one of my firts "ancient" coins when I was about 10 or 11 years old, my aunt bought it for me in a flea market here in Buenos Aires!
Well done! You are absolutely correct. Im impressed with your ID skills
That particular French coin was made from melted down old naval guns. So the metal in your coin was a naval canon from a ship of Louis the thirteenth or even earlier.
I remember when you got those boots Nic! Has it really been 2 years?! How time flies!
I do too. Has it been that long ago. Geezzzzz... We are definitely dedicated to you Nicole!
I remember those brand new shiny hunter boots!!! Amazing that two years has passed so quickly!
You could probably plug those with a ' Vulcanized Stoppah' !
yes it's really flown hasnt it!!
Maybe Si could up-cycle those boots ... or just melt the hole closed
Nicola I do so enjoy your videos. I left England in 1958, as a child, when my parents emigrated to Australia, but I have always missed England (or what I remember of her). I haven't been able to return, athough I would have liked to. I knew nothing about mudlarking until I chanced upon one of your videos and then subscribed. Mudlarking looks really interesting and so much fun, and I wish I could be there with you. So thank you for doing the videos the way you do so that I can pretend for a while that I am mudlarking too 🙂.
Thank you Karen. I'm so glad you enjoy them xx
Please stop waving that pointy thing around Nicola :) your gonna end up in diagon alley if your not careful,
your magic btw lol
ha ha - oops I didn't think of that!
Another wonderful video, Nic 👍 Those coins were amazing. Also, St. Louis, MO, and (pretty sure) Louisville, KY, were also named for Louis XIV.
On a side note, I want to thank you for continuing to take us on your mudlarking adventures, especially during this past year. Yours was the first mudlarking channel that I found and followed years ago, and you’ve taught me so much about the hobby just by watching your vids. They’ve been a wonderful and welcomed distraction during this crazy past year for sure - I love how you point the video at the foreshore and encourage us to look for the finds. I think I can speak for many of us that your videos have allowed us to escape the immediacy of our daily reality and feel like we’re in a real adventure. You’re providing a real service, and I thank you very much.
I love your voice, the sound of waves and gulls... the shots of the birds, especially the one downing a big fish.
I really enjoyed today's outing. I love the nature shots. Poor bird! He tried so hard to eat that fish and then lost it in the end!
Thank you!
he'd bitten off more than he could chew though - i was laughing at his dilemma and then the problem was suddenly solved. 😊
I'm sure your brother is looking after you and helping you find those little treasures, it's a good way to think about these things, lovely to see the butterfly 🦋 , some absolutely amazing finds ,thanks for the great video, take care xx
Thanks Mike and Brenda xx
some great history again nicola i love that pot thing its just the kind of thing i'd keep .... thanks for sharing nicola
Glad I'm not the only one Matt!
Beautiful video! I particularly liked the lights on the water at the end. The link between coins and pipes was very nice; who knows, perhaps those coins bought pipes! In any case, I loved the symmetry of the two trios; it was, as you said, very satisfying. Seeing your videos come up on Sunday each week is a treat for me-- I always make a mug of tea and sit here across the pond and then some (I live in Arizona), drinking my Earl Grey and watching you hunt for treasures and history. May you continue to do so as long as you love it, and may Mother River continue to favor you.
18:22 I believe that was Henrys bucket, he was never able to repair it even with the advice from his dear Liza, so he tossed it into the Thames 😏
Terrific finds, and wonderful nature surprises, especially the seal, the coots, and the poor cormorant who lost his lunch to the wiley seagull!
"Pipe and Skull"! It sounds like a perfect name for a Pub!!
R. White's beer.
yes it does!
Nicola,
This was an excellent video, I loved your finds and your information, it added so much to the presentation.
I follow the Mudpies from Bristol, Father and Daughter, I commented on their new mud christened shirts and how the mud was
able to preserve so many things.
Josie wrote back and said it's really more a clay rather than mud, but claying the Thames or Thames Clay larkers really doesn't work:)
That poor Cormorant, I wondered if it would be able to ingest that Flatfish, but I wasn't surprised the enterprising gull got it!
It's a bird eats fish existence.
Cheers,
Rik Spector
Thanks Rik! so glad you enjoyed it. yes, that cormorant. I really felt for it too x
Great finds excellent information....girl put a patch on those boots and keep larking...🤣💖 . Texas
I love that your brother Matthew might be sprinkling coins for you, and that his memory is a blessing to you and to all of us. Also, that subplot of the cormorant with the flounder had me on tenterhooks, and sadly it ended the way I worried it might. What a drama!
Nicola..." Right, here's another little challenge for you, can you spot anything?"
Me... yup, a button, 2 coins and a pipe bowl...
Nicola.." That's right, it's a vulcanite stopper..."
Me...🤔🙄🤭
Haha 😂
I did exactly the same! Hahaha
Oh life's simple pleasures, a wonderful pastime, & muddy feast for those tidbits found by the trained eye.
A fantastic video Nicola, thank you! Lovely to see you back! 😊How amazing that one of Walter Whiffin’s relatives has got in touch! Have a great week xx
Thanks Rachel! Yes, isn't it amazing. You have a great week too. Thanks for your lovely encouraging comments. I appreciate them. xx
Always enjoy the 'can you spot' moments - and can virtually never see anything! It's so different looking at mud rather than pebbles on a beach :) You tend to train your eyes for different environments I guess... Take care, Nicole & Craig
Omg I've been up for hours waiting for spot the find🙆♀️
"These boots were made for larking"
Hi, your coin is a " 6 deniers Dardenne" a pure copper coin of Louis XIV.
Always a pleasure to watch your vids.
Thank you. And well done you are right! how did you do that?
@@nicolawhitemudlark
Hi
Very common coin in my area 😊
@@MrNicosuisse Excellent!
I love seeing these videos from England. I have never been able to travel there. But I am 1st generation born in the United States. my mom came from England. After World War II she travelled here. with her mum and dad.
The history that you can touch in England. is so much older than anything we can find here. It is so exciting. The antidotal information that you shared. Totally puts it at the top of all mud larking videos I have seen. 👏👍🌞
Thank you Dawn. xx
Sunday Funday with Nicola playing spot the find! You have Butterflies and Colorado is having a Blizzard!
Nothing like a sluggey foot...cold, wet, stinky.....love your vlogs
I'm astounded at your ability to spot some of your finds. The Victorian coin is a good example. Another splendid day you have shared with us! Some people say that a deceased loved one will leave coins to show they are with you.
Thank you! Gosh I hadn't realised that by the way
My mom used to tell me to pick up any coin I find, whether “heads up” or not. She’d say, “Free money is always lucky!” I still do it (but now I wash them off before I add them to my bank #CovidCoins 😳)
Finding coins is basically the only perk of doing laundry in my house.
Victoriana penny around 1862 by the look of it
YES! Love seeing a new Nic video pop up in my notifications. 🙂🌹
Just wondering if your pointy stick is some kind of lightning rod? Such varied and interesting finds this week. Thanks for such great info.
hooray! x
Great video. I love how you film some of the wildlife that you are sharing your space with on the foreshore of the river Thames. I think you can spot a pipe bowl at 20 paces 🤣
I love how you connected all those great finds to each other and history. I hope your next boots are as wonderful as those. Thanks Nicola, have a lovely week.
Thanks Debbie! so glad you enjoyed xx
Nicola did you know that seeing a butterfly is thought to be a sign that a loved one who has passed away is nearby. As you mentioned the coins I thought this might interest you. That butterfly really did not want to fly away.
Thank you ❤️
Excellent video! I just love it when you find the pipes! 20:18 I’m dying to know whose tooth that is!! Thank you for all of the historical facts you share with us!🤗
The long pointy wooden stick is obviously a pointer for mudlarkers to point things out to their you tube followers!
Happy sunday Nic. And everyone!
Happy Sunday, y'all. ✌
I think the wooden stick is in fact a wand.
I think you are absolutely right
Pool cue
@@nicolawhitemudlark I think it is a new picking device for you to use.
Harry Potter lost one near London, maybe.
@@kknig7874 you're right, he did. It could very well be his.
Fabulous sunset at the end of the video.♥️
I love learning the history of your finds. Thank you Nicola.
That poor cormorant (I think?)! All I could think of was the seagulls in Finding Nemo: "mine mine mine mine".
Haha that's so funny. That's exactly it!!
I remember when you din't know the dates of the pipes. And now you know when you see them in the mud!
ha ha, yes, I've learned a lot
That piece of wood looks like half of a pool cue. Much love from Wisconsin USA
Great content, thank you! I also have a leaky boot, I kept it going by putting my foot in a plastic bag, then into my boot. It should last a good deal longer. 🤣
Haha that's what I'm currently doing!
Enjoyed learning some more tidbits about the monarchs. I actually IDed George the II and was able to spot a couple of items that you found. hopefully someday I'll be able to travel back to London and see for myself. I also wanted to say that I always love the music pieces that you pick for your videos. Cheers from North Carolina.
I'm sure your brother is smiling as you find the coins and pipes he set up for you to find. Thanks for your video, and stay well.
Thank you Mary! x
Mary Roraff, I agree..
hi Nicola,just discovered your site and find it so interesting,,,all those objects that were each part of many peoples lives and past history....you are a great presenter too,,,the tv companies should be employing you .i look forward to some late night "back catalouging " your videos.
How great to have a pipe from each century ! Geeat finds !
Thanks Elaine x
Thank you for another nice and interesting video 🥰👍🏼☺️
Why would someone give you a thumbs down they should F off love your channel two thumbs up from me
Thanks Darren! 😘
If si-finds sees that R Whites bottle stopper, i think he'll be after it for the R Whites bottle he found in this weeks video...!!!
Is he a secret lemonade drinker 😂
You always catch the cormorants trying to eat HUGE fish or eels….. very funny…I wondered when the seagulls would find an opportunity to snatch the catch!
What a delight you are, the tales you spin on so many of the objects are so revealing ,thank you so much Nicola .I was rather saddened by the poor Cormorant who tried and tried to eat a fish only to have it snatched from its beak by a diving seagull but kudos to you for catching the drama.
.Take care Nicola I'm wondering what colour boots you're going to get the pink ones were such a trade mark, perhaps you could put your name in them and bury them deep on the foreshore for some unborn Mudlarker in centuries to come could find them ......what a treasure of someone so famous and. delightful. Cheers from Canada XXX
Thanks Ralph! I shall defnitely go with pink. xx
Me rolling oatmeal energy balls screaming at the phone: no Nik..I can't see it....not a damn thing! LOL. I do think your dear brother was with you on that day.
Thank you so do I!
You ate amazing! You have such joy for you finds and love for the wildlife and beauty around you that it makes me love to watch your videos all the more. I hope someday I can buy a clay pipe. They are so lovely.
I ment are not ate! 😁 sorry!
Ich liebe ihre Videos
Seit meiner Knie Operation 1.8.2018 schau ich immer Nicola Sonntags. Dankeschön
I believe the "pointy" thing is ancient. When they first started to take Narwhal's ivory tusks they felt bad, so the sailors crafted false wooden Narwhal tusks so the whale wouldn't feel naked.😊
Blimey Nicola, were you weaned on carrots as a baby?? Your eyesight is awesome!! Happy hunting lovely lady x
And the award for most dramatic pipe extraction goes to...
Chuckle chuckle...........
ha ha I think I could do more dramatic though :) x
Yes, your late brother was looking down on you. Got me thinking of my sister's funnel too, last gather of people before COVID 19 in early Fed 2020 I remember. 3 Era, 3 King, and a White's stopper. Take care, be safe, and get a good boot. Ken from Ottawa, Canada.
I have just 'discovered' your channel while lying in bed feeling a bit groggy after my first covid jab, FANTASTIC, I am hooked. Looking forward to hours of catching up on all your back catalogue. Thank you.
So glad you are enjoying! Welcome to the magical world of mudlarking. Hope you feel better soon
@@nicolawhitemudlark Thank you.
Love your finds and again the history surrounding them , you too have a nice weekend xx
You are indeed the queen of the pipes!!! They must be so happy to be found by you!!! I love that Matthew is sending his love with the coins! 💕💕👼🏼
Thank you Nancy x
I’ve enjoyed my history lesson Nicola. Was great. My question is can you reuse an old pipe
Hi Andrew! Yes you can
Again awesome history love that video and see you again on the next episode stay blessed 👍🙏
Thank you Roger ❤️
It’s amazing how much those coins clean up with a little electrolysis! The triangle coin looks a lot like a mason symbol. Great finds! How much would a coin like these be worth?
What great finds, i especially liked the coins.To think how many hands they went through and what was bought with them before ending up in the water.
I just watched a program of the recent restoration of Queen Victoria's private train carriage - interesting that you mention her train ride. The Louis XIIII coin, I didn't think it would it be identifiable - great job on that one Nicola!
Mmmmm, Louis ex, one, one, one, one?
@@Cate7451 Sorry Kate, yes, standard version is written XIV (and was in Europe at that time) 👍
ShortOrderCook1 no I am sorry after I typed it I was sorry to have been so rude. My apologies. It doesn't really matter and I enjoy reading comments.
Thank you!
@@Cate7451 Oh please don't worry Cate - no offense taken at all - I didn't take it as such - I actually thought I'd spelt Louis wrong 😂 with my spelling he's lucky I didn't call him Louise 😂
What a great video. I remember your having shared Matthew's story with us last year and even some of his music too!
After a long time ...lovely coins n awesome facts with matching pipes.
WOW
With Love from SAM
Guwahati Assam INDIA
Love to you Sam xxx
As a blacksmith, I see all the ironwork waiting to be upcycled!
Love the way the coins and pipes matched up in thier timeline love yr content cant wait till the next one
A handsome cab whip. Has to be long to reach the horses? Just my guess. Rest in Peach dear Pink Wellies. You could get some bike tire repair and patch them! Cut the patch in the shape of a clay pipe.
Awesome Nicola, I do hope you know the place where Si went today, sea glass galore. I did really enjoy the French coin, was guite lovely, and the little seal, great lark Nicola.🇨🇦🐘🍁❤
Thanks Marion. yes, I know where he went and I shall go there to check it out soon. xx
I would take that little bucket and the rapier-like thing to the Museum of London -- might be very interesting!
Thanks Edie! Maybe I should.
Nic have you ever tried a rubbing of the coins to see if they reproduce a design. Take a piece of light weight paper over the coin and use a soft lead pencil or crayon or oil pastel cover coin with paper and rub with pencil and see what comes up.
As always, I love the history. Thank you Nic! Always look forward to your awesome finds. You are looking lovely.
Thanks Steve!
Wonderful finds. I'm sure that your brother was with you today
Thank you Angela! Yes I think he was x
Nice clip again! Sorry for your boots. But it was real funny, after beginning to watch that clip i thought "Is she still wearing her pink hunter wellies without any cracks, in them?" And then at min 18:30 there was the answer lol. But those boots must have been very lucky to last that long. Normally Hunters will crack within the first 6 months and that without much using. If you buy yourself new boots you should look to get the "Aigle Parcours" because they will last forever and have a real footbed for walking very long distances. The Hunters are like skiing boots compared to the Aigles! Just try amazon to find them often at very cheap prices!
I think it would take most people years to find those three reigns of coins and yet you found them all on the same day. Amazing. I felt so bad for that poor duck who caught that fish and was so stunned by having it stolen by another. Great footage of the wild life. Best to you, Jane, Philadelphia
Thanks Jane! yes poor cormorant - although I think the fish escaped in tne end!
Wonderful finds!! I, like others do believe that stick is actually a wand.
Have you ever found any gold coins?? Wouldn't that be fun?? Always
learn so much...thank you.
Hi! Actually it's the first wand I've found so it's pretty special 💖
Hi Nicola Another great video I see you are making use of the door with The anchor on it best wishes from a Londoner
Super video Nicola! Truly enjoyed the hunt!! 👍👍
Oh dear the wellies have sprang a leak. Well atleast they have lasted for quite a long time. Loved your coins and the pipes. The sculls are creepy lol, I absolutely hate touching bones I find 😂 Thanks for sharing your adventure Nicola. Stay safe :)
Thanks Adam!! xx Im interested to read about the field you are exploring right now
@@nicolawhitemudlark Thanks Nicola. It’s very sad it will become houses instead of a ground full of the muddy past, but sadly it is what it is...
What a fantastic video, they’re all great but excellent connections at the end. Thank you for teaching us so much, and for inspiring me to be curious.
Hi Nicola, the mysterious coin you are trying to identify is a "6 deniers dit Dardenne", a french coin. ;-)
That's ok. I was interested to see if anyone would get it! And you did. Well done x
Congrats on 100k subscribers Nicola! Always an adventure with you!
The history with the coins is brilliant 👏😊
Thank you!
Could your tapered wooden staff be the final atop a flag pole or ship or boat mast, it would certainly stop birds landing on it.
good suggestion
I am pretty sure the pointy stick is a flag staff from the stern of a boat, the metal piece on the foot looks as though it is fluted to fit into a matching socket that would have been on the stern.
Hi Nicola, nice to see you again. Been looking to your vid all day and thanks for all the time you put into your hobby.
@@ericking7406 Thanks Eric x
That sounds right to me. Thank you!
I'm so sorry to hear you lost your brother, Nicola. So very sad. I lost a wonderful friend in 1991, but that's completely different to losing a sibling.
Sending love and best wishes from Sheffield, South Yorkshire. 💜
Thank you ❤️
Hi!
My younger brother passed away recently, and every time I see a shiny penny I think of him. I’m not sure what the connection is, I just sense his presence! His name was Nathaniel.
It’s so sweet that you get to do this, my dad has always liked clay pipes too. Thanks for all you contribute.
Best,
Isaac
Sorry for your loss I am sure that soon Nathaniel will be dropping pennies or moving stuff in your house like my father does (been gone since 2010) but he still moves keys and letters etc. Cheeky Dad lol.
Hi Isaac. Thank you. I bet Nathaniel has something to do with the shiny pennies :) Thank you for watching xx
I sure missed you and your adventures
So nice to see you out enjoying the foreshore Nicola. Great finds as usual! I think Matthew was definitely helping you out with all those coins!!
I read that today was Mother’s Day in the UK so I wish you a very happy one my friend I’ve yet to meet!!! Much love from DeeAnn in Georgia 🇺🇸
I enjoyed the video. It always makes me wish I could go treasure hunting by the Thames. Kind of a long commute from the middle of Illinois though.
thank you so much for these videos.. your calm wanderings are so much like real life (of which some of us still are not able to yet partake in)! REALLY looking forward to seeing the new boots and what color/patterns you decide on!!! Si-finds is also fun to have on the treks.. although it appears that your brother was there on this one!!
Kind regards for your brother Matthew and he surely was there today putting all those Connected things in your path!! :D serendipitous!
Thank you. Love from me xx
Thank you Nicola! I really enjoyed the video! Please let us know what the stick is! Have a great week
As a hobbyist metal detector I try to keep my eyes looking down a lot. You'd be surprised what most people step over.
This was such an amazing video!
What an adventure!
Fighting fowl & fish, yay fish!!
Those gorgeous coins w. the matching pipes!
and yes, Whiffin does sound very Dickensian, but you also fell into the world of Magick, with that 'wand' 🪄 and skull 💀
Truly a fantastic mudlarking day! ☀️
- love from Denmark 🌸💕
It's a bit dark but seems to me like 3 men were disposed of in the thames and these items were in their pockets, seems too coincidental to have the coins and pipes so close to eachother from the same era ^-^