Could Aragorn use Anduril to hurt / physically defeat Sauron? Yes - Sauron's physical body like Morgoth's before him was subject to harm as any other body. Would Aragorn get cooked and die as did Elendil and Gil-Galad? Almost certainly. Did Aragorn using Anduril give it any special properties? Yes, but not in the way portrayed in the movies. "Very bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, and its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West." Anduril much like Glamdring or Sting, was forged with the intent of the elven-smiths to be especially potent against the Enemy and his servants. Since items in Middle Earth often depend on the person using a thing having "the Right" to use it, Aragorn would be the only person able to make full use of the potential of the sword. Often overlooked, perhaps because Tolkien did not describe in detail the duel between Sauron, Gil-Galad, and Elendil, is that Sauron despite wearing the One Ring was defeated with physical weapons. Aeglos and Narsil were exceptional weapons wielded to great effect by their bearers. Aeglos "Icicle" would have hurt Sauron deeply as his physical body was black and burned with a great heat. This is akin to Ringil, the sword of Finglofin, glittering like ice hurting the huge and fiery body of Morgoth. Sauron using a mace and wearing plate armor was seen in the Jackson movies but Tolkien described if differently: "But at the last the siege was so strait that Sauron himself came forth; and he wrestled with Gil-galad and Elendil, and they both were slain, and the sword of Elendil broke under him as he fell. But Sauron also was thrown down, and with the hilt-shard of Narsil Isildur cut the Ruling Ring from the hand of Sauron and took it for his own." Considering the description Tolkien uses to describe the duel of Morgoth and Fingolfin, if Tolkien envisioned Sauron armored head to toe and wielding a huge mace he would have written it so. I can only see the duel thusly. Gil-Galad (fully armored with shield, 7ft tall) and Elendil (fully armored with shield and 7'6" tall) use their weapons against Sauron who is a 10ft tall with skin the color of ash and hot like cooling lava. The two do much damage to Sauron who eventually gets inside Gil-Galad's guard and grabs him by the helm. The heat of Sauron's hands cooks Gil-Galad's brain and he dies. As Sauron focuses on cooking Gil-Galad, Elendil is free to stab and cut Sauron's body to the point his body cannot sustain his spirit much like when Numenor was thrown down. Elendil, after fighting hand to hand with a 10ft tall giant that's about 2000 degrees, is overcome with his wounds. Narsil, after being thrust through the furnace like body at least once, is weakened and snaps as Elendil falls to the rocky ground. Isildur approaches the cooling body of Sauron, picks up the hilt shard of Narsil, and cuts off the Ring. Sauron's spirit forsakes his body and flees to parts unknown.
Damn! I wish I’d been able to see that exchange. The idea of an unarmed and unarmored Sauron in battle has been something I’ve wanted to see on film for a loooong time.
I would argue though that the first time when Gil galad and Elendil fought Sauron they didn’t have Gandalf the white to play support so there is a chance that he may have survived with Gandalfs support perhaps even more Allie's would join the fight but Gandalf is a very powerful support force. I don’t see Gandalf winning in a fight of arms but if Aragorn can keep Sauron occupied by blade and skill Gandalf can keep him occupied magically.
So nice thanks for providing this The movies are fantastic and they stand on their own but I feel they're not true to the books. The movies don't capture just how badass the humans and elves of that day were... And what it took to take down sauron For Gondor !!!
@@theMightywoooshThe Movies outdo The Books in many ways, just as The Books outdo The Movies in many ways, both have flaws and both have perfections to them. Both are equally as iconic and legendary within their respective mediums.
Anduril, (Narsil) already hurt Sauron, it took his finger which he wore the one ring, Sauron had already felt the blade that caused his demise. Because Sauron had imbued so much of his self into the ring , and not being in possession of the ring Sauron was missing much of what he once was at the height of his strength.
And we know that the finger remains missing from the time Gollum spent being tortured, he notes the 9 black fingers! Which shows us the legacy of the damage done by Narsil is more than just symbolic for Sauron. Thanks for leaving us a comment man, we really appreciate it!
As the writer of this script, this neglected mention hurts. As we just went through the paths of the dead chapter in our last video, wherein such was mentioned. Thanks for bringing this up so others can see it. We are a team of three hunters, and we do our best, but leaving this out is completely on me and for which I can only apologize. I wanted to highlight the sword from a specific point of view, and the way to introduce it through his ability to dismiss the curse was in the first script, but when I rewrote it, it seemed to make the script much longer without further addressing if it could damage Sauron. My apologies, *melon*
@@gavhenrad judging on how the ghost army wiped the floor with the minas tirith occupation force it makes it seem like the ghost army was basically immortal and able to clear out mordor too (clearing the way entirely for the ringbearer to do his duty) the ghost army wasnt used militarily in the book anyway, they just spooked some mercenaries
Absolutely, it would have definitely caused Sauron some damage especially since Sauron had he taken a physical form again would have been far weaker than before when Isildur hurt him with Narsil.
I think you missed the point of the entire trilogy. By the time the one ring is forged, it essentially becomes the most concentrated physical manifestation of Sauron's power in Arda. Any "physical" damage to Sauron that couldn't undo the actual ring would essentially be pointless. To understand the threat Narsil/Anduril actually posed to Sauron you have to go back to the duel between Fingolfin (Aragorn's ancestor) and Morgoth. In both cases, the weapons become symbols of hope for the free peoples and symbols of existential fear for the two dark Lords.
@@similaritiesendhere Irrelevant, my comment was based on the question whether or not Anduril would be able to harm Sauron, to which I stated that it would based on Isildur being able to harm Sauron using Narsil. Not only that, but Isildur hurt Sauron using Narsil *while* Sauron wore The One Ring meaning on top of him already being stronger back than in that he was able to maintain a powerful physical form, his power was amplified further by said One Ring. Even then, Sauron was (and is not) invincible. Anduril is likely to be even stronger than Narsil was due to the great Elven Blacksmiths who reforged it and enriched it with runes that further added onto its effectiveness. Aragorn is more of a threat to Sauron than any sword is, any man can hold a sword, but only one man at the time could be the son of Isildur himself. He who vanquished Sauron above all other beings in that great battle. THAT'S what scared Sauron, it's even compounded by the moment that shows Aragorn contesting with and winning the battle of wills against Sauron directly.
@@maylabrown4584 Completely relevant unless... you follow the lore. There is one sword that belonged to Aragorn's ancestors that would scare Sauron more: That sword is called Ringil. It belonged to Fingolfin and could cause permanent physical damage to beings way more powerful than anything in the "ring trilogy". If you're going to hype up a sword, at least hype up the one sword more powerful than the ring of power.
@@similaritiesendhere As I said before, irrelevant. The topic is about Narsil/Anduril and whether or not it would damage Sauron in the hands of Aragorn firstly and secondly it is about the effectiveness of said weapon on Sauron and by extension his minions. Both of which I already commented on. Whether a sword is more powerful than another is irrelevant in this case as the topic is about one particular sword and the individuals connected to it's past and previous form.
@@maylabrown4584 LoL... Are you sure that permanent damage caused to Sauron's hand by Narsil wasn't actually a side effect of Eru limiting Sauron's shape-shifting abilities after the fall of Numenor? Don't confuse Eru's curse with Narsil's power. By comparison, the last person to wield Ringol didn't even need an army to permanently maim Morgoth himself. All Aragorn could do with Anduril was cause a distraction for Sauron.
@@micklumsden3956 realistically, no. Although Sauron was weaker than he was in the Second Age so he could stand a chance. One might even say Aragorn had fate on his side.
I must say that my favorite blade has always been Hadhafang since I first saw it. So I knew I had to get it. Some years later a tiny hunting and weapon shop in my town had taken in some authentic replicas. And Hadhafang was one of them, so I had to buy it. I didn't even know that they would make it, since it barley is seen in the movies. But the owner of tha shop had gotten his hands on only one High Elven Shield. It was so freaking is expensive, but when I saw it hanging on the wall. Like Hadhafang, I now had to have that as well. So half a year later I bought it. I have some other LotR replicas, but Hadhafang and the High Elven Shield is my favorite. Love the video and the storytelling plus.
Orchrist and Glamdring were Epic for me before Excalibur. They had stories of their own, lost or as yet unknown to us. The brief glimpses given hinted of where they had been and what they did as opposed to what they could "do", giving them an allure and mystery that made them characters in their own right. Rankin & Bass seared those moments into a child's mind and have never left, only occasionally stolen and buried by trolls to be won and found once more.
I'm fond of the Barrow-blades the Hobbits recieved from Tom Bombadil. Frodo's blade was shattered in the confrontation with the Nazgul at the Ford of Bruinen near Rivendale. And Bilbo gives him Sting as a replacement. Sam used his blade to kill his first orc in Moria. He later left it with Frodo when he thought him dead by Shelobs sting, was found by Shagrat, eventually taken from the mouth of Sauron by Gandalf and returned to Sam and Frodo. Pippin used his blade to kill a hill troll at the Battle of the Black Gate. Calling it 'Trollsbane" he used it in the scouring of the Shire. Merry, of course, used HIS blade to stab the Witch-king breaking his spell of movement, making it possible for Eowyn to stab him in the face and kill him.
Never been this early before I don’t know if the sword could hurt Sauron physically seeing as he no longer has a physical form but it definitely screwed with Sauron mentally like imagine you’re just chilling spying through the palantir and then out of nowhere you see a random guy holding the sword that cut off your fingers and cast you down bro probably has ptsd just seeing it again.
Sauron has a physical form in the Legendarium. Gollum was tortured, er, interrogated personally (or was at least present) by Sauron. He says that Sauron only has nine fingers on his black hands, so, he must have had a physical form at least from the time of Gollum's capture. In PJ's movie we are told that Sauron has not yet taken up physical form and is only a flaming eyeball atop Barad-Dur. It served as a good reason for not having a one-on-one duel between Aragorn and or Gandalf vs. Sauron and the flaming eye served as a visual to represent a bi bad that was never seen in the Legendarium.
It cut the ring from Sauron's finger the first time, so it would certainly do some damage after being re-forged. I loved the scene where Aragorn contacts him using the magical bowling ball and shows off his fancy new (old) sword.
There are several passages that show the resilience of Ainur bodies. At the beginning of the creation of the Universe-Eä, the Ainur begin to order the laws of physical reality (gravity, temperature, matter, energy) without having bodies, that is, they were spirits interacting with primordial/chaotic matter: "So began their great labours in wastes unmeasured and unexplored, and in ages uncounted and forgotten, until in the Deeps of Time and in the midst of the vast halls of Eä there came to be that hour and that place where was made the habitation of the Children of Ilúvatar". Then comes the planet Earth at the beginning of its geological/cosmic formation: >"When therefore Earth was yet young and full of flame Melkor coveted it, and he said to the other Valar: ‘This shall be my own kingdom; and I name it unto myself!" Interesting is that in a pre-biotic period - on an Earth hostile to any form of life and in adverse conditions of temperature and pressure (volcanism, formation of continents, atmosphere, etc.) >"Now the Valar took to themselves shape and hue; and because they were drawn into the World by love of the Children of Ilúvatar, for whom they hoped, they took shape after that manner which they had beheld in the Vision of Ilúvatar, save only in majesty and splendour". And: >"In that time the Valar brought order to the seas and the lands and the mountains, and Yavanna planted at last the seeds that she had long devised. And since, when the fires were subdued or buried beneath the primeval hills, there was need of light, Aulë at the prayer of Yavanna wrought two mighty lamps for the lighting of the Middle-earth which he had built amid the encircling seas." In other words, it implies that the bodies of the Ainur really have a high tolerance for nature's violence and destructive primordial forms. Remember that Melkor, when taking shape, caused a series of planetary cataclysms impossible to be resisted by any living being, such as: - Geological formation with volcanism, earthquakes, abiotic atmosphere - titanic battle for dominance of Arda: >"Yet it is told among the Eldar that the Valar endeavoured ever, in despite of Melkor, to rule the Earth and to prepare it for the coming of the Firstborn; and they built lands and Melkor destroyed them; valleys they delved and Melkor raised them up; mountains they carved and Melkor threw them down; seas they hollowed and Melkor spilled them; and naught might have peace or come to lasting growth, for as surely as the Valar began a labour so would Melkor undo it or corrupt it. And yet their labour was not all in vain; and though nowhere and in no work was their will and purpose wholly fulfilled, and all things were in hue and shape other than the Valar had at first intended, slowly nonetheless the Earth was fashioned and made firm." - The absolute zero of the Space Void of the Universe. Melkor assumed a dark form and roamed through space "growing in distant darkness" and "retreated and departed to other regions, and there he did as he pleased": >"So came Tulkas the Strong, whose anger passes like a mighty wind, scattering cloud and darkness before it; and Melkor fled before his wrath and his laughter, and forsook Arda, and there was peace for a long age. And Tulkas remained and became one of the Valar of the Kingdom of Arda; but Melkor brooded in the outer darkness, and his hate was given to Tulkas for ever after." - 1st Mass Extinction. A form of radiation that killed the fauna and flora initially imagined/concretized by Yavanna in a global reach, also generating mutant forms and monstrous creatures, in addition to starting the cycle of ecosystems and dispute between herbivores x carnivores: >"And though the Valar knew naught of it as yet, nonetheless the evil of Melkor and the blight of his hatred flowed out thence, and the Spring of Arda was marred. Green things fell sick and rotted, and rivers were choked with weeds and slime, and fens were made, rank and poisonous, the breeding place of flies; and forests grew dark and perilous, the haunts of fear; and beasts became monsters of horn and ivory and dyed the earth with blood." - 2nd Mass Extinction - analogous to a kind of fall of 2 powerful meteors with the catastrophic release of energy similar to 2 stars: >"In the overthrow of the mighty pillars lands were broken and seas arose in tumult; and when the lamps were spilled destroying flame was poured out over the Earth. And the shape of Arda and the symmetry of its waters and its lands was marred in that time, so that the first designs of the Valar were never after restored" Finally, there was the clash of the Powers, in which the Earth moaned and the Waters changed places, a true Greek titanomachy with explosions at the level of atomic bombs: >"(...) and thereafter the Quendi knew nothing of the great Battle of the Powers, save that the Earth shook and groaned beneath them, and the waters were moved, and in the north there were lights as of mighty fires (...) In that time the shape of Middle-earth was changed, and the Great Sea that sundered it from Aman grew wide and deep; and it broke in upon the coasts and made a deep gulf to the southward. Many lesser bays were made between the Great Gulf and Helcaraxë far in the north, where Middle-earth and Aman came nigh together. Of these the Bay of Balar was the chief; and into it the mighty river Sirion flowed down from the new-raised highlands northwards: Dorthonion, and the mountains about Hithlum. The lands of the far north were all made desolate in those days." - Of the "wounds" and "deaths" of the Ainur. I believe that only artifacts imbued with some essence/"magic" cause the destruction of beings endowed with Fana. Sauron was able to withstand the lightning/bolts that struck the Númenóreans: >"But the Temple itself was unshaken, and Sauron stood there upon the pinnacle and defied the lightning and was unharmed." Not only that, but the lightning could destroy certain structures of Númenor (having split the Temple dedicated to Melkor in half) as powerful as the stone of Orthanc or the Walls of Minas Tirith. However, upon being mistaken for the Downfall of Númenor, Sauron reassumes a hideous form - imbued with the element/ingredient Morgoth - and attacks Gil Galad and Elendil on Mount Doom. Detail that the enemy crosses Barad-Dur to the volcano crossing around 20 miles from the distance of the 2 locations, breaking the blockade of the armies of the Last Alliance and facing Gil Galad, Elendil, Cirdan, Elrond and Isildur - The first 2 equipped with weapons enchanted (Aeglos and Narsil) with "spells for the destruction of Mordor" similar to Merry's enchanted sword that breaks the Witch-king's "Invulnerability" so that Eowyn could deliver the fatal blow. The Balrog in Moria also (seems to me) has this invulnerability spell, its Fana seems to have a "tolerance" against many forms of destruction. There is, in the 1st book, a moment when the "roofs of a mountain" (from Bálin's tomb) fall on top of him (the weight of a mountain would destroy a totality of forms, objects and bodies), but the monster simply seems to "ignore "this brutal damage. Also, there is the famous fall of the Balrog with Gandalf into the Abyss of the bridge of Moria (intro of the 2nd film shows this), both fell from an unimaginable height at terminal velocity (in my view) and withstood the impact. There is a very interesting passage in which Gandalf, the white, seems to confirm this fortitude/difference between the bodies of living beings X Ainur X the new "body" of resurrected Gandalf: >"Indeed my friends, none of you have any weapon that could hurt me." This passage also reminded me of an occasion comparing common weapons versus enchanted weapons. Boromir's attack (using the best that the craftsmen of Gondor could offer) using his sword against the skin of the Troll that tries to invade the Chamber of Mazarbul causes his sword to break against the hardened skin of the monster: >"Boromir leaped forward and hewed at the arm with all his might; but his sword rang, glanced aside, and fell from his shaken hand. The blade was notched. Suddenly, and to his own surprise, Frodo felt a hot wrath blaze up in his heart. ‘The Shire!’ he cried, and springing beside Boromir, he stooped, and stabbed with Sting at the hideous foot. There was a bellow, and the foot jerked back, nearly wrenching Sting from Frodo’s arm. Black drops dripped from the blade and smoked on the floor." I believe that one of Tolkien's "mythological" inspirations is the characteristic of Grendel's mother who seemed to be protected against the common weapons used by the heroes when facing, being wounded only with rare/magical weapons: non-aliencreatures.fandom .com/wiki/Grendel's_Mother >"Although neither Grendel not his mother could be harmed by conventional weapons, Beowulf used an ancient sword believed to have been forged by giants and managed to decapitate his opponent."
I haven't heard any commentary anywhere about Aragorn's words afterwards, that Sauron beheld Aragorn in another form. Did he seem to be Elendil again? I may have mess up the details, but this is about right.
Technically speaking we don’t know if Elendil wounded Sauron with Narsil, although it is implied, I believe that Gilgalad’s spear is mentioned as wounding Sauron. The broken hilt of Narsil is used to cut the ring from Sauron’s corpse, by Isidur. I believe that the sword has no more power than any others, other than its ability to give people hope and unite them. So I believe that the sword could wound Sauron, up so could others.
Thanks a ton. When you're writing videos about LoTR, it's always difficult. You must make challenging decisions on the information to include and exclude, lest we end up with 5000-6000 (or even 10k words) in a single script. I try to keep things under 2,500 unless it is demanded, like in the full stories. (Samwise Gamgee's full story was 6000 words, and since it was turned in last Monday, it should be our next video). Thanks again!
Borimir had my favorite sword, like a Triangular knights arming sword.❤️🔥 I also love the elves standard issued sabers. Annnnd lets not forget legolas’ twin daggers.
Damn, ol' son, the ads got rowdy on your stuff in the last week. The immortality of your fame is the measure of others' torture. But sir, don't let it get you down. It is the way of things these days. Keep coming from the heart and you can't go wrong. AGAIN... THANK YOU SIR!!! We hear you.
Sauron has always been incarnate, Elendil slew him with Narsil during the last alliance. He had a physical body during LOTR aswell, the same sword is capeable of hurting him.
You know I never read the books. My only introduction where the cartoons and Peter Jackson. And a consider them very good gateways to the books. That being said my favorite sword Glamdring. But And Peter's Jackson's version of Lord of the rings when Elron bestows the sword back on to Aragorn, that speech was very moving.
My favorite of all the swords is Ringil, which Fingolfin used to gravely wound Morgoth himself. For that matter, I think that answers the primary question of this video all by itself. If Melkor/Morgoth could have taken physical damage from a sword, then it seems likely that Sauron's Third Age body would have been at hazard from a weapon of similar provenance.
My favorite is Orcrist! Why not go for the obvious choice? A beautiful blade, the 'big brother' of Sting, and of course,.a sword called Orcl Cleaver is badass! It's a bit of a shame they burried it with Thorin, but you hardly have a choice.
I mean, Narsil literally defeated Sauron’s physical form. Why wouldn’t this blade (the same blade just forge-welded together, and given some elf magic) “hurt” him? 🤷🏻♂️ If anything it’s MORE qualified to hurt him.
Any sword wielded by anyone could probably have hurt Sauron's physical form, but such wounds be superficial. To truly hurt Sauron, one would need to wield spiritual power. Aragorn demonstrates that he can wield spiritual power, and Andúril seems to be designed to focus and amplify such power. The sun and moon are potent holy symbols, being really the last flower and fruit of the Two Trees. I think it's fair to say that if Sauron had taken physical form to battle Aragorn, he would have at least been permanently hurt. But Sauron is hardly stupid enough to repeat his Master's biggest mistake. Believing that Aragorn possessed the One Ring, Sauron feared he would be overpowered. Due to his lineage and having been raised by Elrond, Aragorn would be able to unlock the Ring's full potential. The book specifically says that Sauron put "the greater part" of himself into the Ring. Someone able to wield the Ring fully, would be able to destroy the part of Sauron that wasn't in the Ring.
I think Anduril would have killed any physical form he took. Just like Narsil did in the hands of Elendil, with the help of Aeglos, the spear of Gil-Galad. As for my favorite sword in LOTR, it is as follows: 1st Anduril, 2nd Glamdring, 3rd Sting
Although I love LOTR and everything connected to it......I'll have to settle for a Light Saber =) "Fingers? I'd have cut Sauron into tiny cubes, like in the cartoons...." I love all the swords and dont want to chose only one.
In the books they don't explain what individual, and what weapon, actually struck Sauron down in the final battle in the Last Alliance, do they? The "killing" blow that allowed Isildur to cut off the ring? Do we know? Was it Narsil? Was it the spear Aeglos? Surely it must have been a last, final thrust before death by either a mortally wounded Elendil or Gil-Galad, right? By the way, were Orcrist and Glamdring just as potent as Narsil? Shouldn't both be as good or better? After all, wouldn't Turgon as the King of Gondolin have possessed a blade at least as good as any that Elendil of Numenor could have possessed? And the other sword was Glamdring's mate, so it too was just as good? Again, better than Narsil? Finally, during the siege of the Lonely Mountain, do you think that Dain wielded Orcrist in that little-talked-about battle in the North that happened around the time of Pelennor Fields? Or was it left as was in the tomb of Thorin. In time of desperate need, I would think that the most powerful sword within hundreds of miles at least would have been tempting to use. I'm sure that Thorin would not have minded.
In the extended edition, the Mouth of Sauron refers to the blade as Elvish; this could either be a reference to its reforging or a mistake on behalf of the writers.
in the book he didn't even take it to minis tirith theyb cleared the decks of the ships and the army from that area sailed with him as the corsairs were no longer a threat
@@martykitson3442 Agree in the movie after the Dead Army killed everything the Dead King told Aragon "Release us!" Aragon replied "Will you not help continue the fight? ( paraphrasing ) " Basically it wasn't part of the original deal as i took it so Aragon broke the spell and the Dead Army fulfilling their oath vanished...resting in peace.
"Let the _thralls_ of Mordor flee me." says enough to me. For Tolkien, in Middle-Earth words were of utmost importance. Sauron is not a thrall. Then again, Sauron does not know what is written on the reforged blade. So would Sauron be willing to chance it? Place thousands of years of hard work on a gamble? Nah. Only when he fears losing the ring.
What id like to know is how badly it would've hurt the witch king, I know it wouldn't kill him. But a dagger from the barrow wights damaged well enough, let alone anduril. Were the smith's of numenor better than the dwarves? Or close to the same? Also is there many epic weapons from the time of numenor?
Since the barrowblades were the ultimate weapon against the wights, we can only say with certainty - less than them. But since Andúril was forged by Elven smiths of Rivendell, they certainly accounted for the terrible foes it might face, and the smiths were wise. Yet, they had diminished like the other Elves, and could not cause as much damage as the Númenorian smiths. We must also remember that while the magic of Middle-Earth is a soft system to us, it's VERY hard in-universe. If you wanted to seriously wound or destroy a wight, you had to get *specific*. There is no clear Sucks Perfect Smith -line in skill, some people(s) just knew some things that others didn't. (Or a stick godslayer in terms of weapons. Andúril would hurt Sauron who's mightier than dragons, but it wouldn't penetrate a true dragon's scales.) Arnor fought a long and bitter war against Witch-King and the wights, and they learned things others didn't know (or cared to know). As for your last q, no, there's barely anything. Much was destroyed with Númenor, and again with Arnor; some lost with Isildur, too, probably. Maybe the Rangers had a few relics, but that's an optimistic guess. If any relics were left, you can be sure Denethor, or Elrond, had them locked tight. Hope this helps!
@@DestinyCrafter damn.....😔 I was hoping there would be some written hard truth other than speculation on any of the questions... but thank you for your well written and thought out reply🙂
Didn't he also get an enchanted sheath from Galadriel that made it so the blade wouldn't brake again, right? I think so, I need/wanted to reread the trilogy anyway, lol
Narsil cut the ring from Sauron's hand, so obviously Anduril would hurt him. When Aragorn reveals to Sauron that the sword was reforged, Sauron was afraid and launched his assault early
My favorite sword would probably be Ringil, the sword of Fingolfin; Glamdring is a close second. Honestly, if I were to write Dagor Dagorath, Ringil would be the weapon used to kill Morgoth rather than Anglachel.
@@nemanjamarin4318 I mean, sure, Turin and his family went through a lot, but I feel like there are plenty of other people with just as much claim on being the ones to end Morgoth.
Short answer is yes, seeing as how it’s original blade cut his finger off. Sauron has a physical form just like Gandalf and if Gandalf can have his form destroyed then more than likely his body can be destroyed in conventional means.
The only issue i take with this is sauron was not a man, yet constantly is shown to take on many traits or emotions of men. Makes no sense, i get that tolkien was a man and therefore thats where it is derivative from, but from a lore perspective humanizing something so quite literally inhuman is nothing short of silly and potentially an oversight in my opinion. The fact that sauron a maiar understands and connects with the way men understand and construe symbolism and fear then portraying these for himself when its convienant for the plot of the story is nothing short of silliness.
Super early. I think it could have hurt Sauron. IIRC its original form Narsil could cut off Sauron's fingers, so Anduril could probably hurt Sauron that way. More important, however, is the fear factor. This blade symbolizes a resurgent Free Peoples, something Sauron didn't want to see.
My favorite sword is probably either Ringil or Gurthang, but it's tough to get past names like "Foe-hammer" and "Goblin Cleaver". Too many great choices!
TBS writer here, we were thinking of doing the top 10 antiques of middle-earth and Fingolfin's Ringil would have been my favorite. It's hard to choose among so many great blades. Eol's twin black / meteorite blades are among my favorites, too! Thanks for the comment man, we always appreciate it!
"He is not so mighty yet that he is beyond fear; nay, doubt ever gnaws at him." I remember this being mentioned more than once in the books, or some variation of those words. Same about Melkor being alone of the Valar the one to know fear. I think Sauron, spending so much of his time and spirit doing evil, has mostly forgotten his past and his ultimate nature, in a similar way to Gandalf saying "Olorin I was named in the uttermost west in my youth, which is forgotten." But, there's always a part of Sauron that knows deep down that he is and will always be at the ultimate mercy of Illuvatar. “And thou, Melkor, shalt see that no theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me, nor can any alter the music in my despite. For he that attempteth this shall prove but mine instrument in the devising of things more wonderful, which he himself hath not imagined.” -A term also fitting for Sauron, and undoubtedly he witnessed this himself and could never truly forget it.
I'll always have a special place in my heart for the little letter opener, Sting. :-) It was used to such great purpose time and again, and wielded by several of our favorite little heroes.
It did chop off Sauron's finger. Though, here's the question. Was it Elendil and Gil-Galad killed Sauron and Isildur chopped off a dead man's finger or was it Elendil and Gil-Galad wounded Sauron and Isildur got a lucky strike chopping off the Ring from Sauron's hand or was it like the movie?
I always thought that in the book that Gil-Galad and Elendil took Sauron down and Isildur cut the ring finger off once he was down, at least the wording of the book made it seem like that.
@@natetrivette7175 because that’s the thing, it’s all up to interpretation as far as I know, the way I read it was Elendil and Gil-Galad were tag team on Sauron but Sauron managed to overwhelm both killing then and Isildur rushed to defend his father and somehow got a lucky stuck on Sauron taking his finger with the ring on it
@@Tadicuslegion78 Script writer for TBS here! The ring was cut from the felled Sauron's hand, which I believe is more brutal. He is slain, and Isildur takes it by cutting it from what seems to be an empty corpse and takes it as a wargeld.
In the Legendarium Isildur cut the Ring from Sauron's corpse. In the movie, as you say, the One Ring is cut off of Sauron's living hand in a desperate strike by Isildur.
@@Tadicuslegion78 outside of the duel between Morgoth and Fingolfin and maybe the duel in Moria between Gandalf and the Balrog, Tolkien never really describes any duels with great detail. He uses language like "threw down" which I always took as meaning killed or mortally wounded. Like alot of Tolkien things, it leaves much open to interpretation as you said.
My favorite sword is definitely Sting. At first appearance, it was described as “nothing more than a letter-opener” Well, that Letter-opener went toe-to-toe with Shelob, and won!
It’s Sting, fast, light, strong & the bane of orcs. One interesting thing is that it was based on the Spartan Lakonia short sword with its leaf shaped silhouette (heavy for slicing & sharp at the end for piercing) 👍😃🗡️
We know that it could damage his physical form, and that was a broken sword at the height of his power in the second age. What I think his fear was is the length of time it would take to reconstitute himself, it had already taken over three thousand years since the last time his body was destroyed, where this to happen again his plans would be set back, potentially indefinitely.
Nope nope and nope! At the meeting of the Three Hunters and Gandalf the White in Fangorn forrest, Gandalf simply heats up Anduril in Aragorn's hand which he drops in surprise. At the same meeting, Gandalf reveals to Gimli that he's the most dangerous being Gimli could face unless he was brought before the throne of Sauron. Time and again Gandalf hints that he'll probably never be strong enough to stand toe to toe with Sauron physically. That'd be like an HQ officer trying to fight off a SpecOps commando. Slim chances there! Gandalf had power to stand against the Witch King who was but the servant of Sauron. No, theirs was a battle of wits. And the battle between Aragorn and Sauron was but a battle of authority, lordship and command, never a physical one. The movies were wise to cut that off from the final director's cut because it would ruin the whole point! No. Strong and sharp though it may be, Anduril was but a sword. An excellent one no doubt but other than supporting Aragorn's claim of High-Lordship of the West and helping him command the armies of the dead, it was but another sword wielded by a great warrior. It would NOT exhibit the same qualities at the hand of anyone else. Aside from these qualities, any other blade would serve Aragorn just as well in battle but NOT against Sauron.
We can almost see the effects in history. Whilst there was a king, Gondor was strong and Sauron was weak. Once the kings vanish, Gondor gets weak and Sauron gets strong. The Sword is reforged, orcs on Moria quickly retreat, a wizard is restored to life, Rohan goes from being weak to destroying a force of at least 6000 in mere minutes, the Ents, who have been silent for over 6000 years return to battle and destroy Isengard, the Druedain form an alliance with people who hunted and killed them, 31 Dunedain, 3 elves, a dwarf and ghosts defeat two armies and free Southern Gondor without weapons! Manwe sends a wind to speed Aragorn to save Minas Tirith, the Witch-King is killed, the One Ring is destroyed as is Sauron, less than 6000 survived against a army 10 times and more than 10 times itself, and Hobbits prove they are as great as any man of Gondor against other men; 19 Hobbits die and 70 men die! Take that Gondor! and they free The Shire in less than a week! All this happened after Anduil was reforged!
Middle Earth Swords, Daggers & Knifes: My Favourite Middle Earth Swords, Daggers & Knifes gifted to, made by or reforged by The Elves (including Peter Jackson films). • Anglachel - Gurthang (Eol - Turin) • Anguirel (Eol - Maeglin) • Angrist (Curufin - Beren) • Aranrúth (Thingol - Elros) • Ringil (Fingolfin) • Glamdring (Turgon - Gandalf) Glamdring was forged by the Elves of Gondolin in the first age for the Elven King Turgon. Glamdring was lost in the downfall of Gondolin in the first age but was recovered and used by the "Wizard" Gandalf in the third age. Glamdring's blade glowed blue when orcs were near and is inscribed with runes in the Elvish language of Sindarin which say "Turgon Aran Gondolin, Tortha gar a matha Glamdring, Vegil Glamdring gud daelo. Dam an Glamhoth." which translates to "Turgon, King of Gondolin, wields, has, and holds the sword Glamdring, Foe of Morgoth's realm, Hammer of the Orcs." • Orcrist (*Ecthelion - Thorin) Orcrist was forged by the Elves of Gondolin in the first age and was likely made for the Elven Lord Ecthelion. Orcrist was lost in the downfall of Gondolin in the first age but was recovered and used by the Dwarven King Thorin in the third age. Orcrist's blade glowed blue when orcs were near and is inscribed in the Elvish language of Sindarin which say "NAGOL E-LYG." which translates to "Tooth of-Snake [or dragon]." as the hilt of the sword is a dragon's tooth. *The pommel is decorated with Lord Ecthelion's herald giving speculation that Orcrist was his sword. • Sting (Bilbo - Frodo) Sting was forged by the Elves of Gondolin in the first age and was lost in the downfall of Gondolin. Sting was recovered in the third age by the Hobbit, Bilbo Baggins who used it to fight the giant spiders of Mirkwood where it gained it's name Sting. Sting was then passed down to Bilbo's nephew the Hobbit, Frodo Baggins who used it on his journey to Mordor. Sting's blade glowed blue when orcs were near and is inscribed with the Elvish language of Sindarin that reads phonetically, "Maegnas aen estar nin dagnir in yngyl im." which translates to "Sting is my name; I am the spider's bane." • Hadhafang (Idril - Arwen) Hadhafang was forged by the Elves of Gondolin in the first age for the Elven Princess Idril. Hadhafang was handed down through Princess Idril's family to Lord Eärendil, then to Lord Elrond and then finally to Lady Aewen. Hadhafang's blade glowed blue when orcs were near and is inscribed with the Elvish language of Sindarin in Tengwar runes that say "Aen estar Hadhafang i chathol hen, thand arod dan i thang an i arwen." which translates to "This blade is called Hadhafang, a noble defense against the enemy throng for a noble lady." • Narsil - Andúril (Elendil - Aragorn) Narsil was forged by the Dwarven-smith Telchar of Nogrod in the first age and somehow came to the people of Númenor where it was passed down until it came to King Elendil, a man, who used it in the second age against the dark Lord Sauron, where it was broken. The shards of Narsil were kept in Rivendell by the Elven Lord Elrond. Narsil was then reforged in the third age by the Elves of Rivendell, renamed Andúril and used by King Aragorn, a man. Andúril's blade glowed with a red light in sunlight, a white light in moonlight and was inscribed with runes in the Elvish language of Quenya saying "Anar. Nányë Andúril I né Narsil i macil Elendilo. Lercuvantan i móli Mordórëo. Isil." in Quenya, which translates to "Sun. I am Andúril who was once Narsil, sword of Elendil. The slaves of Mordor shall flee from me. Moon". Andúril was also inscribed on the pommel with tengwar runes in the Elvish language of Quenya saying "Narsil essenya, macil meletya; Telchar carnéron Návarotesse" in Quenya, which translates to "Narsil [is] my name, [a] mighty sword; Telchar made me in Nogrod". • Long Elven Dagger (Celeborn - Aragorn) • Lhang (Galadhrim & High Elves) • Twin Elven Swords (Thranduil) • Twin White Elven Long Knifes (Legolas) • Bronzed Alloy & Steel Twin Elvin Daggers (Tauriel) • Mirkwood Infantry Sword (Woodland Guard)
Of course it could have. You said it yourself: "...Sauron has not forgotten Isildur and the sword of Elendil. Now in the the very hour of his great designs the heir of Isildur and the sword are revealed; for I showed the blade reforged to him. He is not so mighty yet that he is above fear; nay, doubt ever gnaws him." Now could it kill him? No. As Gandalf said, Sauron's great power was largely put into The One Ring, and while it endured, Sauron would, as well. However, he could be harmed by Andúril, just as the hilt shard of Narsil removed the ring from his hand by Elendil. Favorite sword? Sting.
Finaly video about the broken sword that was reforged on The Broken Sword
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Could Aragorn use Anduril to hurt / physically defeat Sauron? Yes - Sauron's physical body like Morgoth's before him was subject to harm as any other body. Would Aragorn get cooked and die as did Elendil and Gil-Galad? Almost certainly. Did Aragorn using Anduril give it any special properties? Yes, but not in the way portrayed in the movies. "Very bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, and its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West." Anduril much like Glamdring or Sting, was forged with the intent of the elven-smiths to be especially potent against the Enemy and his servants. Since items in Middle Earth often depend on the person using a thing having "the Right" to use it, Aragorn would be the only person able to make full use of the potential of the sword. Often overlooked, perhaps because Tolkien did not describe in detail the duel between Sauron, Gil-Galad, and Elendil, is that Sauron despite wearing the One Ring was defeated with physical weapons. Aeglos and Narsil were exceptional weapons wielded to great effect by their bearers. Aeglos "Icicle" would have hurt Sauron deeply as his physical body was black and burned with a great heat. This is akin to Ringil, the sword of Finglofin, glittering like ice hurting the huge and fiery body of Morgoth. Sauron using a mace and wearing plate armor was seen in the Jackson movies but Tolkien described if differently: "But at the last the siege was so strait that Sauron himself came forth; and he wrestled with Gil-galad and Elendil, and they both were slain, and the sword of Elendil broke under him as he fell. But Sauron also was thrown down, and with the hilt-shard of Narsil Isildur cut the Ruling Ring from the hand of Sauron and took it for his own." Considering the description Tolkien uses to describe the duel of Morgoth and Fingolfin, if Tolkien envisioned Sauron armored head to toe and wielding a huge mace he would have written it so. I can only see the duel thusly. Gil-Galad (fully armored with shield, 7ft tall) and Elendil (fully armored with shield and 7'6" tall) use their weapons against Sauron who is a 10ft tall with skin the color of ash and hot like cooling lava. The two do much damage to Sauron who eventually gets inside Gil-Galad's guard and grabs him by the helm. The heat of Sauron's hands cooks Gil-Galad's brain and he dies. As Sauron focuses on cooking Gil-Galad, Elendil is free to stab and cut Sauron's body to the point his body cannot sustain his spirit much like when Numenor was thrown down. Elendil, after fighting hand to hand with a 10ft tall giant that's about 2000 degrees, is overcome with his wounds. Narsil, after being thrust through the furnace like body at least once, is weakened and snaps as Elendil falls to the rocky ground. Isildur approaches the cooling body of Sauron, picks up the hilt shard of Narsil, and cuts off the Ring. Sauron's spirit forsakes his body and flees to parts unknown.
Damn! I wish I’d been able to see that exchange. The idea of an unarmed and unarmored Sauron in battle has been something I’ve wanted to see on film for a loooong time.
I would argue though that the first time when Gil galad and Elendil fought Sauron they didn’t have Gandalf the white to play support so there is a chance that he may have survived with Gandalfs support perhaps even more Allie's would join the fight but Gandalf is a very powerful support force. I don’t see Gandalf winning in a fight of arms but if Aragorn can keep Sauron occupied by blade and skill Gandalf can keep him occupied magically.
So nice thanks for providing this
The movies are fantastic and they stand on their own but I feel they're not true to the books.
The movies don't capture just how badass the humans and elves of that day were... And what it took to take down sauron
For Gondor !!!
@@theMightywoooshmovies and books are different which isn't a bad thing
@@theMightywoooshThe Movies outdo The Books in many ways, just as The Books outdo The Movies in many ways, both have flaws and both have perfections to them. Both are equally as iconic and legendary within their respective mediums.
Anduril, (Narsil) already hurt Sauron, it took his finger which he wore the one ring, Sauron had already felt the blade that caused his demise. Because Sauron had imbued so much of his self into the ring , and not being in possession of the ring Sauron was missing much of what he once was at the height of his strength.
And we know that the finger remains missing from the time Gollum spent being tortured, he notes the 9 black fingers! Which shows us the legacy of the damage done by Narsil is more than just symbolic for Sauron.
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Maybe it could have physically but nothing is more horrifying to evil then a reforged weapon the slew evils of the past.
No mention of how having the Blade allowed Aragorn to summon the Dead Army
As the writer of this script, this neglected mention hurts. As we just went through the paths of the dead chapter in our last video, wherein such was mentioned. Thanks for bringing this up so others can see it. We are a team of three hunters, and we do our best, but leaving this out is completely on me and for which I can only apologize. I wanted to highlight the sword from a specific point of view, and the way to introduce it through his ability to dismiss the curse was in the first script, but when I rewrote it, it seemed to make the script much longer without further addressing if it could damage Sauron. My apologies, *melon*
Could the army of the dead harmed Sauron?
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@@gavhenrad Good question. I personally have no idea
@@gavhenrad judging on how the ghost army wiped the floor with the minas tirith occupation force it makes it seem like the ghost army was basically immortal and able to clear out mordor too (clearing the way entirely for the ringbearer to do his duty) the ghost army wasnt used militarily in the book anyway, they just spooked some mercenaries
“He is not so mighty yet that he’s beneath fear” this is such a badass quote!
Absolutely, it would have definitely caused Sauron some damage especially since Sauron had he taken a physical form again would have been far weaker than before when Isildur hurt him with Narsil.
I think you missed the point of the entire trilogy. By the time the one ring is forged, it essentially becomes the most concentrated physical manifestation of Sauron's power in Arda. Any "physical" damage to Sauron that couldn't undo the actual ring would essentially be pointless.
To understand the threat Narsil/Anduril actually posed to Sauron you have to go back to the duel between Fingolfin (Aragorn's ancestor) and Morgoth. In both cases, the weapons become symbols of hope for the free peoples and symbols of existential fear for the two dark Lords.
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Irrelevant, my comment was based on the question whether or not Anduril would be able to harm Sauron, to which I stated that it would based on Isildur being able to harm Sauron using Narsil.
Not only that, but Isildur hurt Sauron using Narsil *while* Sauron wore The One Ring meaning on top of him already being stronger back than in that he was able to maintain a powerful physical form, his power was amplified further by said One Ring. Even then, Sauron was (and is not) invincible.
Anduril is likely to be even stronger than Narsil was due to the great Elven Blacksmiths who reforged it and enriched it with runes that further added onto its effectiveness.
Aragorn is more of a threat to Sauron than any sword is, any man can hold a sword, but only one man at the time could be the son of Isildur himself. He who vanquished Sauron above all other beings in that great battle. THAT'S what scared Sauron, it's even compounded by the moment that shows Aragorn contesting with and winning the battle of wills against Sauron directly.
@@maylabrown4584 Completely relevant unless... you follow the lore. There is one sword that belonged to Aragorn's ancestors that would scare Sauron more:
That sword is called Ringil. It belonged to Fingolfin and could cause permanent physical damage to beings way more powerful than anything in the "ring trilogy".
If you're going to hype up a sword, at least hype up the one sword more powerful than the ring of power.
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As I said before, irrelevant.
The topic is about Narsil/Anduril and whether or not it would damage Sauron in the hands of Aragorn firstly and secondly it is about the effectiveness of said weapon on Sauron and by extension his minions. Both of which I already commented on.
Whether a sword is more powerful than another is irrelevant in this case as the topic is about one particular sword and the individuals connected to it's past and previous form.
@@maylabrown4584 LoL... Are you sure that permanent damage caused to Sauron's hand by Narsil wasn't actually a side effect of Eru limiting Sauron's shape-shifting abilities after the fall of Numenor?
Don't confuse Eru's curse with Narsil's power. By comparison, the last person to wield Ringol didn't even need an army to permanently maim Morgoth himself. All Aragorn could do with Anduril was cause a distraction for Sauron.
Sauron: No man can kill me.
Aragorn: Good thing my sword will be doing the killing.
Sauron: Oh Shit.
If Elendil and Gilgalad died, fighting, Sauron I don’t think Aragorn would survive the encounter.
@@micklumsden3956 realistically, no. Although Sauron was weaker than he was in the Second Age so he could stand a chance. One might even say Aragorn had fate on his side.
@@cormacmacsuibhne2867He doesn’t have any chance at all. Tolkien addresses this in his letters
I must say that my favorite blade has always been Hadhafang since I first saw it. So I knew I had to get it. Some years later a tiny hunting and weapon shop in my town had taken in some authentic replicas. And Hadhafang was one of them, so I had to buy it. I didn't even know that they would make it, since it barley is seen in the movies. But the owner of tha shop had gotten his hands on only one High Elven Shield. It was so freaking is expensive, but when I saw it hanging on the wall. Like Hadhafang, I now had to have that as well. So half a year later I bought it. I have some other LotR replicas, but Hadhafang and the High Elven Shield is my favorite.
Love the video and the storytelling plus.
Please make a video where u talk about some amazing moments in middle earth n it’s history
Orchrist and Glamdring were Epic for me before Excalibur. They had stories of their own, lost or as yet unknown to us. The brief glimpses given hinted of where they had been and what they did as opposed to what they could "do", giving them an allure and mystery that made them characters in their own right. Rankin & Bass seared those moments into a child's mind and have never left, only occasionally stolen and buried by trolls to be won and found once more.
I'm fond of the Barrow-blades the Hobbits recieved from Tom Bombadil. Frodo's blade was shattered in the confrontation with the Nazgul at the Ford of Bruinen near Rivendale. And Bilbo gives him Sting as a replacement. Sam used his blade to kill his first orc in Moria. He later left it with Frodo when he thought him dead by Shelobs sting, was found by Shagrat, eventually taken from the mouth of Sauron by Gandalf and returned to Sam and Frodo. Pippin used his blade to kill a hill troll at the Battle of the Black Gate. Calling it 'Trollsbane" he used it in the scouring of the Shire. Merry, of course, used HIS blade to stab the Witch-king breaking his spell of movement, making it possible for Eowyn to stab him in the face and kill him.
Never been this early before
I don’t know if the sword could hurt Sauron physically seeing as he no longer has a physical form but it definitely screwed with Sauron mentally like imagine you’re just chilling spying through the palantir and then out of nowhere you see a random guy holding the sword that cut off your fingers and cast you down bro probably has ptsd just seeing it again.
Sauron has a physical form in the Legendarium. Gollum was tortured, er, interrogated personally (or was at least present) by Sauron. He says that Sauron only has nine fingers on his black hands, so, he must have had a physical form at least from the time of Gollum's capture. In PJ's movie we are told that Sauron has not yet taken up physical form and is only a flaming eyeball atop Barad-Dur. It served as a good reason for not having a one-on-one duel between Aragorn and or Gandalf vs. Sauron and the flaming eye served as a visual to represent a bi bad that was never seen in the Legendarium.
It cut the ring from Sauron's finger the first time, so it would certainly do some damage after being re-forged.
I loved the scene where Aragorn contacts him using the magical bowling ball and shows off his fancy new (old) sword.
There are several passages that show the resilience of Ainur bodies. At the beginning of the creation of the Universe-Eä, the Ainur begin to order the laws of physical reality (gravity, temperature, matter, energy) without having bodies, that is, they were spirits interacting with primordial/chaotic matter:
"So began their great labours in wastes unmeasured and unexplored, and in ages uncounted and forgotten, until in the Deeps of Time and in the midst of the vast halls of Eä there came to be that hour and that place where was made the habitation of the Children of Ilúvatar".
Then comes the planet Earth at the beginning of its geological/cosmic formation:
>"When therefore Earth was yet young and full of flame Melkor coveted it, and he said to the other Valar: ‘This shall be my own kingdom; and I name it unto myself!"
Interesting is that in a pre-biotic period - on an Earth hostile to any form of life and in adverse conditions of temperature and pressure (volcanism, formation of continents, atmosphere, etc.)
>"Now the Valar took to themselves shape and hue; and because they were drawn into the World by love of the Children of Ilúvatar, for whom they hoped, they took shape after that manner which they had beheld in the Vision of Ilúvatar, save only in majesty and splendour".
And:
>"In that time the Valar brought order to the seas and the lands and the mountains, and Yavanna planted at last the seeds that she had long devised. And since, when the fires were subdued or buried beneath the primeval hills, there was need of light, Aulë at the prayer of Yavanna wrought two mighty lamps for the lighting of the Middle-earth which he had built amid the encircling seas."
In other words, it implies that the bodies of the Ainur really have a high tolerance for nature's violence and destructive primordial forms. Remember that Melkor, when taking shape, caused a series of planetary cataclysms impossible to be resisted by any living being, such as: - Geological formation with volcanism, earthquakes, abiotic atmosphere - titanic battle for dominance of Arda:
>"Yet it is told among the Eldar that the Valar endeavoured ever, in despite of Melkor, to rule the Earth and to prepare it for the coming of the Firstborn; and they built lands and Melkor destroyed them; valleys they delved and Melkor raised them up; mountains they carved and Melkor threw them down; seas they hollowed and Melkor spilled them; and naught might have peace or come to lasting growth, for as surely as the Valar began a labour so would Melkor undo it or corrupt it. And yet their labour was not all in vain; and though nowhere and in no work was their will and purpose wholly fulfilled, and all things were in hue and shape other than the Valar had at first intended, slowly nonetheless the Earth was fashioned and made firm."
- The absolute zero of the Space Void of the Universe. Melkor assumed a dark form and roamed through space "growing in distant darkness" and "retreated and departed to other regions, and there he did as he pleased":
>"So came Tulkas the Strong, whose anger passes like a mighty wind, scattering cloud and darkness before it; and Melkor fled before his wrath and his laughter, and forsook Arda, and there was peace for a long age. And Tulkas remained and became one of the Valar of the Kingdom of Arda; but Melkor brooded in the outer darkness, and his hate was given to Tulkas for ever after."
- 1st Mass Extinction. A form of radiation that killed the fauna and flora initially imagined/concretized by Yavanna in a global reach, also generating mutant forms and monstrous creatures, in addition to starting the cycle of ecosystems and dispute between herbivores x carnivores:
>"And though the Valar knew naught of it as yet, nonetheless the evil of Melkor and the blight of his hatred flowed out thence, and the Spring of Arda was marred. Green things fell sick and rotted, and rivers were choked with weeds and slime, and fens were made, rank and poisonous, the breeding place of flies; and forests grew dark and perilous, the haunts of fear; and beasts became monsters of horn and ivory and dyed the earth with blood."
- 2nd Mass Extinction - analogous to a kind of fall of 2 powerful meteors with the catastrophic release of energy similar to 2 stars:
>"In the overthrow of the mighty pillars lands were broken and seas arose in tumult; and when the lamps were spilled destroying flame was poured out over the Earth. And the shape of Arda and the symmetry of its waters and its lands was marred in that time, so that the first designs of the Valar were never after restored"
Finally, there was the clash of the Powers, in which the Earth moaned and the Waters changed places, a true Greek titanomachy with explosions at the level of atomic bombs:
>"(...) and thereafter the Quendi knew nothing of the great Battle of the Powers, save that the Earth shook and groaned beneath them, and the waters were moved, and in the north there were lights as of mighty fires (...) In that time the shape of Middle-earth was changed, and the Great Sea that sundered it from Aman grew wide and deep; and it broke in upon the coasts and made a deep gulf to the southward. Many lesser bays were made between the Great Gulf and Helcaraxë far in the north, where Middle-earth and Aman came nigh together. Of these the Bay of Balar was the chief; and into it the mighty river Sirion flowed down from the new-raised highlands northwards: Dorthonion, and the mountains about Hithlum. The lands of the far north were all made desolate in those days."
- Of the "wounds" and "deaths" of the Ainur. I believe that only artifacts imbued with some essence/"magic" cause the destruction of beings endowed with Fana. Sauron was able to withstand the lightning/bolts that struck the Númenóreans:
>"But the Temple itself was unshaken, and Sauron stood there upon the pinnacle and defied the lightning and was unharmed."
Not only that, but the lightning could destroy certain structures of Númenor (having split the Temple dedicated to Melkor in half) as powerful as the stone of Orthanc or the Walls of Minas Tirith. However, upon being mistaken for the Downfall of Númenor, Sauron reassumes a hideous form - imbued with the element/ingredient Morgoth - and attacks Gil Galad and Elendil on Mount Doom. Detail that the enemy crosses Barad-Dur to the volcano crossing around 20 miles from the distance of the 2 locations, breaking the blockade of the armies of the Last Alliance and facing Gil Galad, Elendil, Cirdan, Elrond and Isildur - The first 2 equipped with weapons enchanted (Aeglos and Narsil) with "spells for the destruction of Mordor" similar to Merry's enchanted sword that breaks the Witch-king's "Invulnerability" so that Eowyn could deliver the fatal blow.
The Balrog in Moria also (seems to me) has this invulnerability spell, its Fana seems to have a "tolerance" against many forms of destruction. There is, in the 1st book, a moment when the "roofs of a mountain" (from Bálin's tomb) fall on top of him (the weight of a mountain would destroy a totality of forms, objects and bodies), but the monster simply seems to "ignore "this brutal damage. Also, there is the famous fall of the Balrog with Gandalf into the Abyss of the bridge of Moria (intro of the 2nd film shows this), both fell from an unimaginable height at terminal velocity (in my view) and withstood the impact.
There is a very interesting passage in which Gandalf, the white, seems to confirm this fortitude/difference between the bodies of living beings X Ainur X the new "body" of resurrected Gandalf:
>"Indeed my friends, none of you have any weapon that could hurt me."
This passage also reminded me of an occasion comparing common weapons versus enchanted weapons. Boromir's attack (using the best that the craftsmen of Gondor could offer) using his sword against the skin of the Troll that tries to invade the Chamber of Mazarbul causes his sword to break against the hardened skin of the monster:
>"Boromir leaped forward and hewed at the arm with all his might; but his sword rang, glanced aside, and fell from his shaken hand. The blade was notched. Suddenly, and to his own surprise, Frodo felt a hot wrath blaze up in his heart. ‘The Shire!’ he cried, and springing
beside Boromir, he stooped, and stabbed with Sting at the hideous foot. There was a bellow, and the foot jerked back, nearly wrenching Sting from Frodo’s arm. Black drops dripped from the blade and smoked on the floor."
I believe that one of Tolkien's "mythological" inspirations is the characteristic of Grendel's mother who seemed to be protected against the common weapons used by the heroes when facing, being wounded only with rare/magical weapons:
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>"Although neither Grendel not his mother could be harmed by conventional weapons, Beowulf used an ancient sword believed to have been forged by giants and managed to decapitate his opponent."
I haven't heard any commentary anywhere about Aragorn's words afterwards, that Sauron beheld Aragorn in another form. Did he seem to be Elendil again?
I may have mess up the details, but this is about right.
Great video. As for my favorite sword, I'm a simple man. Bilbo's "sword" Sting is my favorite sword of Middle Earth.
I'm still a Hobbit fan, and Sting will always hold a place in my heart as the favorite from the entire series.
Technically speaking we don’t know if Elendil wounded Sauron with Narsil, although it is implied, I believe that Gilgalad’s spear is mentioned as wounding Sauron. The broken hilt of Narsil is used to cut the ring from Sauron’s corpse, by Isidur. I believe that the sword has no more power than any others, other than its ability to give people hope and unite them. So I believe that the sword could wound Sauron, up so could others.
I enjoyed the fact that it was both an impressively/stupiditly long!
My favourite sword is glamdring, the way it destroys the balrogs sword... Epic!!
Another excellent video! You always do a great job.
Thanks a ton. When you're writing videos about LoTR, it's always difficult. You must make challenging decisions on the information to include and exclude, lest we end up with 5000-6000 (or even 10k words) in a single script. I try to keep things under 2,500 unless it is demanded, like in the full stories. (Samwise Gamgee's full story was 6000 words, and since it was turned in last Monday, it should be our next video).
Thanks again!
An amazing analysis.
Narsil was enchanted to cut anything.
Borimir had my favorite sword, like a Triangular knights arming sword.❤️🔥 I also love the elves standard issued sabers. Annnnd lets not forget legolas’ twin daggers.
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Now...I'll play the tourist and say Glamdring is the one sword I would like to wield. There it is!
Damn, ol' son, the ads got rowdy on your stuff in the last week. The immortality of your fame is the measure of others' torture. But sir, don't let it get you down. It is the way of things these days. Keep coming from the heart and you can't go wrong. AGAIN... THANK YOU SIR!!! We hear you.
Since it was able to kill Sauron's body in the past, it stands to reason it could do so again.
But Sauron had no body then he was spirit
@@robinminn271 I'm fairly sure he had a physical body again by the time of LOTR.
@@robinminn271Gollum described Sauron's fingers, so he had a physical body.
Sauron has always been incarnate, Elendil slew him with Narsil during the last alliance. He had a physical body during LOTR aswell, the same sword is capeable of hurting him.
RINGIL THE SWORD OF FINGOLFIN.
my all time favorite
When it comes to a favorite sword from the Tolkien legendarium, I've always had a soft spot for Sting.
You know I never read the books. My only introduction where the cartoons and Peter Jackson. And a consider them very good gateways to the books. That being said my favorite sword Glamdring.
But And Peter's Jackson's version of Lord of the rings when Elron bestows the sword back on to Aragorn, that speech was very moving.
My favorite of all the swords is Ringil, which Fingolfin used to gravely wound Morgoth himself. For that matter, I think that answers the primary question of this video all by itself. If Melkor/Morgoth could have taken physical damage from a sword, then it seems likely that Sauron's Third Age body would have been at hazard from a weapon of similar provenance.
My favorite is Orcrist! Why not go for the obvious choice?
A beautiful blade, the 'big brother' of Sting, and of course,.a sword called Orcl Cleaver is badass!
It's a bit of a shame they burried it with Thorin, but you hardly have a choice.
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If I can add my favorite -- Ringil!
This is a fine question!!
Can you do a video about Aeglos Gil galad's spear
I mean, Narsil literally defeated Sauron’s physical form. Why wouldn’t this blade (the same blade just forge-welded together, and given some elf magic) “hurt” him? 🤷🏻♂️
If anything it’s MORE qualified to hurt him.
Any sword wielded by anyone could probably have hurt Sauron's physical form, but such wounds be superficial. To truly hurt Sauron, one would need to wield spiritual power. Aragorn demonstrates that he can wield spiritual power, and Andúril seems to be designed to focus and amplify such power. The sun and moon are potent holy symbols, being really the last flower and fruit of the Two Trees. I think it's fair to say that if Sauron had taken physical form to battle Aragorn, he would have at least been permanently hurt. But Sauron is hardly stupid enough to repeat his Master's biggest mistake.
Believing that Aragorn possessed the One Ring, Sauron feared he would be overpowered. Due to his lineage and having been raised by Elrond, Aragorn would be able to unlock the Ring's full potential. The book specifically says that Sauron put "the greater part" of himself into the Ring. Someone able to wield the Ring fully, would be able to destroy the part of Sauron that wasn't in the Ring.
I think Anduril would have killed any physical form he took. Just like Narsil did in the hands of Elendil, with the help of Aeglos, the spear of Gil-Galad.
As for my favorite sword in LOTR, it is as follows: 1st Anduril, 2nd Glamdring, 3rd Sting
Although I love LOTR and everything connected to it......I'll have to settle for a Light Saber =)
"Fingers? I'd have cut Sauron into tiny cubes, like in the cartoons...."
I love all the swords and dont want to chose only one.
In the books they don't explain what individual, and what weapon, actually struck Sauron down in the final battle in the Last Alliance, do they? The "killing" blow that allowed Isildur to cut off the ring? Do we know? Was it Narsil? Was it the spear Aeglos? Surely it must have been a last, final thrust before death by either a mortally wounded Elendil or Gil-Galad, right?
By the way, were Orcrist and Glamdring just as potent as Narsil? Shouldn't both be as good or better? After all, wouldn't Turgon as the King of Gondolin have possessed a blade at least as good as any that Elendil of Numenor could have possessed? And the other sword was Glamdring's mate, so it too was just as good? Again, better than Narsil?
Finally, during the siege of the Lonely Mountain, do you think that Dain wielded Orcrist in that little-talked-about battle in the North that happened around the time of Pelennor Fields? Or was it left as was in the tomb of Thorin. In time of desperate need, I would think that the most powerful sword within hundreds of miles at least would have been tempting to use. I'm sure that Thorin would not have minded.
Were there any mithril swords?
Anduril would've shattered the first moment he tried to use it because you can't just fit pieces of broken metal together and hammer them into a blade
Favorite sword? Easily, Ringil. Anduril is a close second, and Anglachel is third. Hehehe.
Isildur resisted the one ring. He was going to give it to Elrond or they may even have went to destroy it. At least in the books that is the case.
In the extended edition, the Mouth of Sauron refers to the blade as Elvish; this could either be a reference to its reforging or a mistake on behalf of the writers.
Can't remember the line, but you sure he didn't mean Sting?
Who made the blade sting?
could you guys give us your Theory of what would happen if sauron got the ring.
I still dont understand why Aragorn didnt take his army of dead into Mordor
in the book he didn't even take it to minis tirith theyb cleared the decks of the ships and the army from that area sailed with him as the corsairs were no longer a threat
@@martykitson3442 Agree in the movie after the Dead Army killed everything the Dead King told Aragon "Release us!" Aragon replied "Will you not help continue the fight? ( paraphrasing ) " Basically it wasn't part of the original deal as i took it so Aragon broke the spell and the Dead Army fulfilling their oath vanished...resting in peace.
Comon. I mean. Don’t use the travesty that was was Netflix. Anyway I’m listening. You guys are great.
"Let the _thralls_ of Mordor flee me." says enough to me. For Tolkien, in Middle-Earth words were of utmost importance. Sauron is not a thrall. Then again, Sauron does not know what is written on the reforged blade. So would Sauron be willing to chance it? Place thousands of years of hard work on a gamble? Nah. Only when he fears losing the ring.
The script on the spine looks more like Dwarvish to me?
Considering the sword was made by a dwarven smith in the first age could be,
What id like to know is how badly it would've hurt the witch king, I know it wouldn't kill him. But a dagger from the barrow wights damaged well enough, let alone anduril. Were the smith's of numenor better than the dwarves? Or close to the same? Also is there many epic weapons from the time of numenor?
Since the barrowblades were the ultimate weapon against the wights, we can only say with certainty - less than them. But since Andúril was forged by Elven smiths of Rivendell, they certainly accounted for the terrible foes it might face, and the smiths were wise. Yet, they had diminished like the other Elves, and could not cause as much damage as the Númenorian smiths.
We must also remember that while the magic of Middle-Earth is a soft system to us, it's VERY hard in-universe. If you wanted to seriously wound or destroy a wight, you had to get *specific*. There is no clear Sucks Perfect Smith -line in skill, some people(s) just knew some things that others didn't. (Or a stick godslayer in terms of weapons. Andúril would hurt Sauron who's mightier than dragons, but it wouldn't penetrate a true dragon's scales.) Arnor fought a long and bitter war against Witch-King and the wights, and they learned things others didn't know (or cared to know).
As for your last q, no, there's barely anything. Much was destroyed with Númenor, and again with Arnor; some lost with Isildur, too, probably. Maybe the Rangers had a few relics, but that's an optimistic guess. If any relics were left, you can be sure Denethor, or Elrond, had them locked tight.
Hope this helps!
@@DestinyCrafter damn.....😔 I was hoping there would be some written hard truth other than speculation on any of the questions... but thank you for your well written and thought out reply🙂
My favourite sword in Middle-Earth, if I would have to make a choice, would be Sting.
Hey look at that! I have a replica of this sword!
Didn't he also get an enchanted sheath from Galadriel that made it so the blade wouldn't brake again, right? I think so, I need/wanted to reread the trilogy anyway, lol
Narsil cut the ring from Sauron's hand, so obviously Anduril would hurt him. When Aragorn reveals to Sauron that the sword was reforged, Sauron was afraid and launched his assault early
My favorite sword would probably be Ringil, the sword of Fingolfin; Glamdring is a close second. Honestly, if I were to write Dagor Dagorath, Ringil would be the weapon used to kill Morgoth rather than Anglachel.
Turin is the one to do it, after all that he and his family has been through. Gurthang shall deliver revenge.
@@nemanjamarin4318 I mean, sure, Turin and his family went through a lot, but I feel like there are plenty of other people with just as much claim on being the ones to end Morgoth.
is everyone getting the new videos showing up in their feed? i'm only getting the Shorts
There was an elven spell on the sword. Only Aragorn could touch it.
I think it could take down a dragon.
all made up
Sting. Small but mighty. Like the Hobbits that bore it.
Yes.
The sword of Shannara was based on it.
🎩Hi it’s got to be Sting.
#1 sword = Ringil!!
My favorite sword is the sword of Theoden.
sting
The black blade of Turin
Hail Gurthang
if we look at the reforging scene in the movie, then no.
Short answer: yes, because it already did.
The rare youtube question where the answer is yes.
Physical damage? Of course. But it wouldn’t have destroyed the spirit of Sauron.
If it was crafted by dorfs then probably
Yeah Anduril two handed would wound Sauron on a 3+. 👌
Sting.
Pretty much the same sword that cut off his finger so yeah….
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Short answer is yes, seeing as how it’s original blade cut his finger off. Sauron has a physical form just like Gandalf and if Gandalf can have his form destroyed then more than likely his body can be destroyed in conventional means.
The only issue i take with this is sauron was not a man, yet constantly is shown to take on many traits or emotions of men. Makes no sense, i get that tolkien was a man and therefore thats where it is derivative from, but from a lore perspective humanizing something so quite literally inhuman is nothing short of silly and potentially an oversight in my opinion. The fact that sauron a maiar understands and connects with the way men understand and construe symbolism and fear then portraying these for himself when its convienant for the plot of the story is nothing short of silliness.
I Prefer Narsil its Smithed by a dwarf
Super early.
I think it could have hurt Sauron. IIRC its original form Narsil could cut off Sauron's fingers, so Anduril could probably hurt Sauron that way. More important, however, is the fear factor. This blade symbolizes a resurgent Free Peoples, something Sauron didn't want to see.
The Broken Sword making a video of The Broken Sword. I'm here for that inception.
My favorite sword is probably either Ringil or Gurthang, but it's tough to get past names like "Foe-hammer" and "Goblin Cleaver". Too many great choices!
TBS writer here, we were thinking of doing the top 10 antiques of middle-earth and Fingolfin's Ringil would have been my favorite. It's hard to choose among so many great blades. Eol's twin black / meteorite blades are among my favorites, too!
Thanks for the comment man, we always appreciate it!
Beater and Biter!
Gurthang even spoke. Badass sword.
Ringil, agreed
Gurthang was a fell sword, along with the other black sword Eol made from a meteorite.
"He is not so mighty yet that he is beyond fear; nay, doubt ever gnaws at him."
I remember this being mentioned more than once in the books, or some variation of those words. Same about Melkor being alone of the Valar the one to know fear. I think Sauron, spending so much of his time and spirit doing evil, has mostly forgotten his past and his ultimate nature, in a similar way to Gandalf saying "Olorin I was named in the uttermost west in my youth, which is forgotten." But, there's always a part of Sauron that knows deep down that he is and will always be at the ultimate mercy of Illuvatar.
“And thou, Melkor, shalt see that no theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me, nor can any alter the music in my despite. For he that attempteth this shall prove but mine instrument in the devising of things more wonderful, which he himself hath not imagined.”
-A term also fitting for Sauron, and undoubtedly he witnessed this himself and could never truly forget it.
I'll always have a special place in my heart for the little letter opener, Sting. :-) It was used to such great purpose time and again, and wielded by several of our favorite little heroes.
It did chop off Sauron's finger.
Though, here's the question. Was it Elendil and Gil-Galad killed Sauron and Isildur chopped off a dead man's finger or was it Elendil and Gil-Galad wounded Sauron and Isildur got a lucky strike chopping off the Ring from Sauron's hand or was it like the movie?
I always thought that in the book that Gil-Galad and Elendil took Sauron down and Isildur cut the ring finger off once he was down, at least the wording of the book made it seem like that.
@@natetrivette7175 because that’s the thing, it’s all up to interpretation as far as I know, the way I read it was Elendil and Gil-Galad were tag team on Sauron but Sauron managed to overwhelm both killing then and Isildur rushed to defend his father and somehow got a lucky stuck on Sauron taking his finger with the ring on it
@@Tadicuslegion78 Script writer for TBS here!
The ring was cut from the felled Sauron's hand, which I believe is more brutal. He is slain, and Isildur takes it by cutting it from what seems to be an empty corpse and takes it as a wargeld.
In the Legendarium Isildur cut the Ring from Sauron's corpse. In the movie, as you say, the One Ring is cut off of Sauron's living hand in a desperate strike by Isildur.
@@Tadicuslegion78 outside of the duel between Morgoth and Fingolfin and maybe the duel in Moria between Gandalf and the Balrog, Tolkien never really describes any duels with great detail. He uses language like "threw down" which I always took as meaning killed or mortally wounded. Like alot of Tolkien things, it leaves much open to interpretation as you said.
If Morgoth could be struck and wounded 7 times by an Elvish blade I have no doubt Anduril could physically harm Sauron
My top five favorite swords from Middle-Earth.
1. Anduril
2. Glamdring
3. Orcrist
4. Gurthang
5. Ringil
My favorite sword is definitely Sting. At first appearance, it was described as “nothing more than a letter-opener”
Well, that Letter-opener went toe-to-toe with Shelob, and won!
Me too. The shape looks cool and I like short swords over big two handed swords.
Sauron has a living body and he WAS at least partially killed by Narsil, so yes.
A story of glamdring from forging to third age battles would be fantastic
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It’s Sting, fast, light, strong & the bane of orcs. One interesting thing is that it was based on the Spartan Lakonia short sword with its leaf shaped silhouette (heavy for slicing & sharp at the end for piercing) 👍😃🗡️
We know that it could damage his physical form, and that was a broken sword at the height of his power in the second age. What I think his fear was is the length of time it would take to reconstitute himself, it had already taken over three thousand years since the last time his body was destroyed, where this to happen again his plans would be set back, potentially indefinitely.
Nope nope and nope! At the meeting of the Three Hunters and Gandalf the White in Fangorn forrest, Gandalf simply heats up Anduril in Aragorn's hand which he drops in surprise. At the same meeting, Gandalf reveals to Gimli that he's the most dangerous being Gimli could face unless he was brought before the throne of Sauron. Time and again Gandalf hints that he'll probably never be strong enough to stand toe to toe with Sauron physically. That'd be like an HQ officer trying to fight off a SpecOps commando. Slim chances there! Gandalf had power to stand against the Witch King who was but the servant of Sauron. No, theirs was a battle of wits. And the battle between Aragorn and Sauron was but a battle of authority, lordship and command, never a physical one. The movies were wise to cut that off from the final director's cut because it would ruin the whole point! No. Strong and sharp though it may be, Anduril was but a sword. An excellent one no doubt but other than supporting Aragorn's claim of High-Lordship of the West and helping him command the armies of the dead, it was but another sword wielded by a great warrior. It would NOT exhibit the same qualities at the hand of anyone else. Aside from these qualities, any other blade would serve Aragorn just as well in battle but NOT against Sauron.
We can almost see the effects in history. Whilst there was a king, Gondor was strong and Sauron was weak. Once the kings vanish, Gondor gets weak and Sauron gets strong. The Sword is reforged, orcs on Moria quickly retreat, a wizard is restored to life, Rohan goes from being weak to destroying a force of at least 6000 in mere minutes, the Ents, who have been silent for over 6000 years return to battle and destroy Isengard, the Druedain form an alliance with people who hunted and killed them, 31 Dunedain, 3 elves, a dwarf and ghosts defeat two armies and free Southern Gondor without weapons! Manwe sends a wind to speed Aragorn to save Minas Tirith, the Witch-King is killed, the One Ring is destroyed as is Sauron, less than 6000 survived against a army 10 times and more than 10 times itself, and Hobbits prove they are as great as any man of Gondor against other men; 19 Hobbits die and 70 men die! Take that Gondor! and they free The Shire in less than a week!
All this happened after Anduil was reforged!
Middle Earth Swords, Daggers & Knifes:
My Favourite Middle Earth Swords, Daggers & Knifes gifted to, made by or reforged by The Elves (including Peter Jackson films).
• Anglachel - Gurthang (Eol - Turin)
• Anguirel (Eol - Maeglin)
• Angrist (Curufin - Beren)
• Aranrúth (Thingol - Elros)
• Ringil (Fingolfin)
• Glamdring (Turgon - Gandalf)
Glamdring was forged by the Elves of Gondolin in the first age for the Elven King Turgon. Glamdring was lost in the downfall of Gondolin in the first age but was recovered and used by the "Wizard" Gandalf in the third age.
Glamdring's blade glowed blue when orcs were near and is inscribed with runes in the Elvish language of Sindarin which say "Turgon Aran Gondolin, Tortha gar a matha Glamdring, Vegil Glamdring gud daelo. Dam an Glamhoth." which translates to "Turgon, King of Gondolin, wields, has, and holds the sword Glamdring, Foe of Morgoth's realm, Hammer of the Orcs."
• Orcrist (*Ecthelion - Thorin)
Orcrist was forged by the Elves of Gondolin in the first age and was likely made for the Elven Lord Ecthelion. Orcrist was lost in the downfall of Gondolin in the first age but was recovered and used by the Dwarven King Thorin in the third age.
Orcrist's blade glowed blue when orcs were near and is inscribed in the Elvish language of Sindarin which say "NAGOL E-LYG." which translates to "Tooth of-Snake [or dragon]." as the hilt of the sword is a dragon's tooth.
*The pommel is decorated with Lord Ecthelion's herald giving speculation that Orcrist was his sword.
• Sting (Bilbo - Frodo)
Sting was forged by the Elves of Gondolin in the first age and was lost in the downfall of Gondolin. Sting was recovered in the third age by the Hobbit, Bilbo Baggins who used it to fight the giant spiders of Mirkwood where it gained it's name Sting. Sting was then passed down to Bilbo's nephew the Hobbit, Frodo Baggins who used it on his journey to Mordor.
Sting's blade glowed blue when orcs were near and is inscribed with the Elvish language of Sindarin that reads phonetically, "Maegnas aen estar nin dagnir in yngyl im." which translates to "Sting is my name; I am the spider's bane."
• Hadhafang (Idril - Arwen)
Hadhafang was forged by the Elves of Gondolin in the first age for the Elven Princess Idril.
Hadhafang was handed down through Princess Idril's family to Lord Eärendil, then to Lord Elrond and then finally to Lady Aewen.
Hadhafang's blade glowed blue when orcs were near and is inscribed with the Elvish language of Sindarin in Tengwar runes that say "Aen estar Hadhafang i chathol hen, thand arod dan i thang an i arwen." which translates to "This blade is called Hadhafang, a noble defense against the enemy throng for a noble lady."
• Narsil - Andúril (Elendil - Aragorn)
Narsil was forged by the Dwarven-smith Telchar of Nogrod in the first age and somehow came to the people of Númenor where it was passed down until it came to King Elendil, a man, who used it in the second age against the dark Lord Sauron, where it was broken. The shards of Narsil were kept in Rivendell by the Elven Lord Elrond. Narsil was then reforged in the third age by the Elves of Rivendell, renamed Andúril and used by King Aragorn, a man.
Andúril's blade glowed with a red light in sunlight, a white light in moonlight and was inscribed with runes in the Elvish language of Quenya saying "Anar. Nányë Andúril I né Narsil i macil Elendilo. Lercuvantan i móli Mordórëo. Isil." in Quenya, which translates to "Sun. I am Andúril who was once Narsil, sword of Elendil. The slaves of Mordor shall flee from me. Moon".
Andúril was also inscribed on the pommel with tengwar runes in the Elvish language of Quenya saying "Narsil essenya, macil meletya; Telchar carnéron Návarotesse" in Quenya, which translates to "Narsil [is] my name, [a] mighty sword; Telchar made me in Nogrod".
• Long Elven Dagger (Celeborn - Aragorn)
• Lhang (Galadhrim & High Elves)
• Twin Elven Swords (Thranduil)
• Twin White Elven Long Knifes (Legolas)
• Bronzed Alloy & Steel Twin Elvin Daggers (Tauriel)
• Mirkwood Infantry Sword (Woodland Guard)
Of course it could have. You said it yourself: "...Sauron has not forgotten Isildur and the sword of Elendil. Now in the the very hour of his great designs the heir of Isildur and the sword are revealed; for I showed the blade reforged to him. He is not so mighty yet that he is above fear; nay, doubt ever gnaws him." Now could it kill him? No. As Gandalf said, Sauron's great power was largely put into The One Ring, and while it endured, Sauron would, as well. However, he could be harmed by Andúril, just as the hilt shard of Narsil removed the ring from his hand by Elendil. Favorite sword? Sting.
When Gil-galad and Elendil fought Sauron and DEFEATED Sauron what weapon did Elendil use to do his damage ? Before he fell and broke it 🤨 😂 🤦🏻♂️