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    Dive deep into the shadowy depths of Middle-Earth with our comprehensive guide on one of its most misunderstood inhabitants: the Orcs. From their dark origins to their complex societies, and the fate that befell them after the fall of Sauron, we cover everything you need to know about these fascinating creatures. Whether you're a seasoned fan of Tolkien's world or new to the lore, there's something here for everyone.
    This video is your ultimate guide to understanding the Orcs of Middle-Earth. From their creation, distinctions, and the possibility of goodness, to their breeding, the special status of Gundabad Orcs, and their destiny post-Sauron, we leave no stone unturned.
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    00:00 - Introduction
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    02:15 - The Origins of the Orcs
    14:19 - The Differences Between Goblins, Orcs and Uruk-hai!
    22:33 - Are There Any Good Orcs?
    35:20 - How Do Orcs Breed?
    46:07 - Are Gundabad Orcs Better Than Normal Orcs?
    51:26 - What Happened To The Orcs & Mordor After the Fall of Sauron?
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  • @TheBrokenSword
    @TheBrokenSword  2 месяца назад +47

    I hope you all have a great Easter and are just doing awesome in general 😁

    • @Saber23
      @Saber23 2 месяца назад +3

      You too brother 🙏❤️

    • @Badclamz83
      @Badclamz83 2 месяца назад +1

      Hope you had a Great Easter as well!! Thanks for the amazing content

    • @Spartan-Of-Truth
      @Spartan-Of-Truth Месяц назад +1

      I’m an orc… so….

  • @MohseenLala
    @MohseenLala 2 месяца назад +16

    Of course we'd love a breakdown of the early Silmarillion, with the extended saga of the fall of Gondolin, you hardly need to ask.

  • @titobeme
    @titobeme 28 дней назад +3

    In LOTRO, there’s a quest in Goblin Town where there’s an imprisoned goblin who promises to give you info you need if you help him escape. He swears he’ll not only give the intel, but ally with you as well. Once freed though, he proceeds to attack and you’re forced to kill him. That’s the nature of orc kind. Ever treacherous.

  • @Idk-ys7rt
    @Idk-ys7rt 2 месяца назад +13

    Orcs are an interesting race in LOTR, elves corrupted by Morgoth and Sauron.

    • @michaldimitrov3233
      @michaldimitrov3233 2 месяца назад +9

      That's no excuse. I got corrupted by Morgoth and Sauron, yet I remain polite and care about my appearance and personal hygiene.
      Those elves were bad apples.

    • @northplayyyer3453
      @northplayyyer3453 2 месяца назад +5

      ​@@michaldimitrov3233But you are not a elf. When a human gets corrupted by Melkor and Mairon they just become british.

    • @michaldimitrov3233
      @michaldimitrov3233 2 месяца назад

      @@northplayyyer3453 That seems like a fair point. I did start drinking copious amount of tea and taking out my own teeth since I became corrupted. Crikey!

  • @daylanhicks9096
    @daylanhicks9096 2 месяца назад +9

    What a great Easter gift!!

  • @sephirothdomain1
    @sephirothdomain1 2 месяца назад +2

    Burying an orc bone and it sprouting 5 other orcs is horrifying lmao

    • @alanpennie
      @alanpennie Месяц назад

      I'm sure Jason would agree.

  • @JoshuaHeald
    @JoshuaHeald 2 месяца назад +5

    I've often wondered if the half-orcs and goblin-men that Saruman used as servants, weren't created by some kind of dark magic that mutated men into orcs. When Saruman wrecks the Shire, he has Grima with him and insinuates that Grima devoured the corpse of Lotho Sackville-Baggins. Grima was a man of Rohan and was corrupt, but following his ousting becomes vilely submissive to the wizard. I wonder is Saruman didn't mutate Grima into some kind of orc-man, violent and hungry for man-flesh, or hobbit. That's just my own speculation, though!
    *Happy Easter and Springtime!*

  • @Idk-ys7rt
    @Idk-ys7rt 2 месяца назад +11

    Happy Easter everyone!!!

  • @FutureMythology
    @FutureMythology 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you so much! Wishing you a fantastic Easter as well, filled with joy, peace, and blessings. Take care and stay awesome!

  • @Jayjay-qe6um
    @Jayjay-qe6um 2 месяца назад +4

    It is unknown if the Orcs were immortal like the Elves. There is, in any case, a hint for a long lifespan in the story of Azog and Bolg. Bolg, being the son of Azog, was the chieftain of the Orcs who attacked Erebor in the Battle of Five Armies in T.A. 2941. Azog himself was killed in the Battle of Azanulbizar in T.A. 2799, so Bolg was at least 142 years old.

    • @TheRadioactiveMaster
      @TheRadioactiveMaster 24 дня назад

      There is an Uruk I know of that worked for morgoth, I don’t know what his name was or where I heard of him

  • @annaroselarsen4218
    @annaroselarsen4218 2 месяца назад +5

    Happy Easter!

  • @Carelock
    @Carelock 2 месяца назад +3

    What a great idea for a video!!!

  • @user-sd7ri9fy4i
    @user-sd7ri9fy4i 2 месяца назад +1

    Nice work dude thanks

  • @Cauin450
    @Cauin450 2 месяца назад +1

    From what I understand it wasn't just the Elves who Melkor took, he also took men and Dwarves, forcing them to interbreed. Which is where Elves get the idea of corruption. Wasn't just that they were ruined and terrible forms of life, it was their essential Elvish Grace was diluted to the point of almost nonexistence.
    Every time Melkor had the opportunity to add a new form to the mix, even some of the Maiar in his service, I'm sure he would. Which is how he beat, one by one, each of the Orcs weaknesses.
    Remember how Saruman breed Orcs with Dunlending men to create the Uruk-hai, Orc's who can move in sunlight? They were formed in the deepest part of Isengard to be as close to Melkor's strength as possible. Just as Sauron crafted the One Ring in the largest volcano in Middle Earth; the greatest upwelling of Melkor's strength. Remember it was Melkor who formed the Foundations of Middle Earth, a physical manifestation of who and what he was: Destruction and creation, all at once! It was also likely how the nameless things and Ungoliant entered into the world. He invited them.

  • @robertvanostrand
    @robertvanostrand 2 месяца назад +3

    The original Silmirilion

  • @clintonclay3158
    @clintonclay3158 2 месяца назад +2

    That scene of the orcs making weapons in Isengard aaand the ome is screaming and losing his shit makes me cackle everytime i see it AHHHHHEHEHEH"

  • @godofwar1498
    @godofwar1498 2 месяца назад +3

    I love your channel 👍 👍

  • @MewnBoi
    @MewnBoi 2 месяца назад

    Love the longer video

  • @StarsAndDreamz
    @StarsAndDreamz Месяц назад

    I always wondered if Melkor could keep the elves' souls from going back to the Halls of Mandos, and that's how he corrupted them to their cores.

  • @pinstripesuitandheels
    @pinstripesuitandheels 2 месяца назад +1

    Original Silmarillion, please!
    Happy Easter!

  • @henrikg1388
    @henrikg1388 14 часов назад

    This is actually one of the best videos I've seen that goes to the core of the problem with the Legendarium of Tolkien. Yes, he got a bit "woke" at the end and did struggle with the "problem of evil" in his own faith. That is just a part that everyone who is a fan have to deal with. There is no straight answer.
    Yet, the great professor left us with these issues unresolved, and in my mind that is part of his mastery, but also his flaws. I lean towards not over-complicating things and keep these as the myths they were originally meant to be, without the struggling ideas of souls and "free will" of an aging and ever more religious author, but that's just me.

  • @wagon9082
    @wagon9082 2 месяца назад

    Good video

  • @Chris-bv4ko
    @Chris-bv4ko 11 дней назад

    I favor an all of the above approach. Morgoth corrupted elves, men, and potentially ape-like animals and cross-bred them all and infused them with sorcery. Sauron and Saruman also tinkered with their own designs. Thus, not all orcs are identical.

  • @SamtheIrishexan
    @SamtheIrishexan 2 месяца назад +2

    Perhaps they had both origins, they were corrupted Elves whose essence was used to craft the race through breeding. Uruk-Hai are the ranks of corrupted Elves, and the stone from the bowels of the Earth was used to breed them to create the other ranks. Their breeding perhaps was unable to reach the essence of the corrupt elves, the immortality. Sort of like horse and donky can only have mules. Thus a smaller less intelligent orc is the successive generations after the Uruk were created out of the corrupt elves and the essence of stone that Melkor was able to craft but wasnt sentient in its being as it was not created by God.

    • @SamtheIrishexan
      @SamtheIrishexan 2 месяца назад +1

      Some may also be half human attempts at breeding.

  • @tommogaz
    @tommogaz 17 дней назад

    i think part of the corruption could have been an equal corruption of their fea, severing their connection to valinor and disrupting resurrection. it makes the lives of orcs even sadder, but could also be a twisted reason for their devotion to the dark lords. of course this also makes their existence more realistic (in my opinion), or perhaps the most analogous to the lives of actual humans. its a dark metaphor i've constructed out of tolkiens work, i doubt very much he would have considered an atheistic reading.

  • @juniusluriuscatalus6606
    @juniusluriuscatalus6606 19 дней назад

    I find it very interesting how people get so passionate and absolute of the answer, when the question seems to be more philosophical "where does evil come from?", more important than the answer. To me it is obvious that his religious upbringing (not that bad, don't get me wrong, he wasn't crazy zealot) played a key role here. I'd be bold enough to say he even struggled with the concept of evil and it shows everywhere in his works. There are absolutes and then there aren't. There are questions about free will and then there aren't. There's the sin and redemption. Gollum - the poor tortured split personality soul - is a perfect example of this. He is an isn't an evil being. He has and hasn't free will. He is pretty much embodiment of the whole dilemma. He might be the most humane character in the lore. But even elves can do evil. (Well, that's kind of the next after the original sin, pretty much like a huge group of Eves, who were just victims of the creation of evil.) Do superhuman beings even have a free will? Are they just automatons? Are we?
    Yeah, that got out of hand and of course we could go on, but the actual point was in the first line.

  • @47nima
    @47nima Месяц назад

    In lotr appendix about dwarves of Durin, talkin wrote about Bolg being Azog's son, so although not in the Hobbit, but it's as talkin himself told

  • @sirvilhelmofyonderland
    @sirvilhelmofyonderland 2 месяца назад

    I’m interested in what average orcs do when not being commanded by a force like Sauron . Do they ever just hang out, eat and enjoy the day?

  • @ronniecorbett6306
    @ronniecorbett6306 2 месяца назад +4

    Do the Original

  • @fricholas7608
    @fricholas7608 2 месяца назад +1

    Looks like meats back on the menu boys!

  • @ThatMainframeDude
    @ThatMainframeDude 2 месяца назад

    I love Orcs (or Orks) from all fantasy genres.

  • @TarMody
    @TarMody 2 месяца назад

    The disruption of the ideal Arda, which was intended to be created by the Music of the Ainur, is due to Melkor incarnating his spiritual power into it (weaving his melody into it in music during its performance) after the vision of Arda was created with the Secret Fire. When we consider incarnate existence as soul (fëa) and body (hröa), just as the body can be corrupted like Arda due to Melkor's will (incarnation of his spiritual power), the soul can also be corrupted metaphysically by this will. At this point, could rings of power be a key to this spiritual healing? The function of the rings of power may be based on pacifying Melkor's will, which pervades the material of Arda. In this perspective, can an orc's corrupted soul be healed through a ring of power?

  • @deividf.9898
    @deividf.9898 2 месяца назад +1

    Yes to the original silmarilion

  • @gwoody4003
    @gwoody4003 2 месяца назад

    The issue of Orc's 'soul' and their willingness to participate in the great wars has always had me scratching my head. Were they sentient creatures.
    In the literature, they are frequently portrayed in a way that suggests they have individual minds, personalities and motives. Some are clever or stupid, aome are really good at their jobs and others are incompetent. They seem to enjoy being at war and living the army life... though what else would they be doing? Painting? Writing poetry? Stompin' on bugs for fun? Who knows.
    They are under some spell or influence that gives them the courage to fight and to be in the open and in daylight doing it. They are dutiful. They do their jobs and seem to have pride in it. And the leadership is dedicated to the command structure and overall mission... we see them motivating their troops, demanding they uphold a level of standards and showing an allegiance to their master and to their own kind in-general. They have pride in their home-town and their clan... they all look down on the others for being goblins/orcs/uruks and for being from where ever they are from. They would pull rank and jurisdiction on each other like a Sheriff Dept, Sate Police and FBI all working the same case.😂
    So they exhibit some personality, some empathy, some senses of pride and shame... but its all within their necessary set of functions. They have free will up to the point they must obey their master. Its like RoboCop's prime directive. That movie also addressed this very issue... at what point does a creation become a creature?
    They are more like bio-mechanical battle drones with really good AI.
    Sauron's Uruks were literally born with a sword in their hand. They pop out the ground fully grown, fully trained... somehow... and ready to go off to war the next day. They don't even have to learn to walk 😂.
    But then... there are societies of orcs, goblins, ect. Obviously the ones that crawled back into their holes after the first war of the ring clearly went on living without being unwittingly complelled by a dark master for 1000s of years.
    So then.... are there lady orcs? Or do they still pry new guys out of holes in the ground? Can they reproduce or are they like elves... immortal so long as nbobody outright kills them? Are they the same ones that fought in the first battles?
    The literature references them multiplying and spreading out more as the borders of men went unguarded... but also references that say they were being bred in vast numbers in Mordor like they were being cloned or grown like mushrooms.
    So IDK... they are just AI drones when there is an evil master controlling them but I suppose they are a "people" in the between times, as much as AI would be considered "people."
    Without their purpose... wtf do orcs do all day?

  • @dmr6640
    @dmr6640 2 месяца назад

    It seems to me that the goblins (orcs) in the mines of Moria were smaller than in other places. Maybe those were orc women crawling down the walls. Hell knows no fury like a woman's scorn.

  • @randyfant2588
    @randyfant2588 2 месяца назад

    Not quite. When the Valar found the Eldar they were separated into 3 groups. 1 group became the Elves, 1 group became the Sea Elves while the 3rd group became the Gnomes. This shows that the initial Eldar tribes were made up of both tall and short members, however, before having the short members separated into a different group and forming a separate race, they split, with some fleeing into the darkness. This means that those that fled were certainly mixed between the tall and short. With the emphasis placed on physical strength by the dark races it makes sense that the short members would separate themselves off at the first chance, forming a new race. Therefore while Orcs are corrupted Elves, Goblins are corrupted Gnomes, all four descended from the Eldar but separated into different distinct races, two tall and two short.

  • @Pre-op8ut
    @Pre-op8ut 2 месяца назад +1

    How woukd sauron trick the elves into letting him in their land and then to actually do an activity like ring making....wtf...

  • @robertcoplin2830
    @robertcoplin2830 2 месяца назад

    The Original Silmarillion

  • @Pre-op8ut
    @Pre-op8ut 2 месяца назад

    So ultimately orcs are hybridized clones. Weird because wasnt his end game to hide amongst them rather than raise hell so to speak.

  • @thomassmith6232
    @thomassmith6232 2 месяца назад

    One of the big aims of any power planning war is to de-humanize the enemy.

  • @RaelThomas
    @RaelThomas 17 дней назад

    The original silmarillion!

  • @47nima
    @47nima Месяц назад

    And absolutely they're not Maiar, 12 maiar who joined melkor, they became Balrog, other than Sauron which was one of the mightiest of all maiar good or evil, in the same level as Eönwë

  • @theMightywooosh
    @theMightywooosh 2 месяца назад

    It would have made more sense just to make them slightly evolved pigs and/or warthogs
    Otherwise it would have been impossible to raise the large armies that they did in this short amount of time, as others have said there's a million plot holes and contrivances in these books, but we still enjoy them

  • @Mrguypersonmandudebro
    @Mrguypersonmandudebro 2 месяца назад

    just bc the orcs take revenge doesn’t mean its out of grief of to avenge their comrades, it might just be an ego thing. Orcs hate feeling weak. Anything that challenges them must be destroyed.

  • @SpacePatrollerLaser
    @SpacePatrollerLaser 2 месяца назад

    If we are induging in the metaphsical, a thought has occurred to me of late. If Sauron would have recovered the One Ring, and he was considerably weakened, losing the ability to hava fair form, would the Ring have eventually consumed him?

  • @6atlantis
    @6atlantis 2 месяца назад +1

    How come all the orcs couldn’t climb walls/pillars like the ones in Moria in the movies, if they were both orc groups and not goblins? Seems like it would of been advantageous at minus tirith and helms deep to be able to climb the walls.

    • @johannesperkio1829
      @johannesperkio1829 2 месяца назад

      Orcs from moria had their armors designed after Durins bane, there was spikes in their shoes and gauntlets that Made climbing possible, also it came from necessity, they Made their homes on top of the pillars, safe from the flames

  • @Lucius_Tenebri
    @Lucius_Tenebri 2 месяца назад

    The original Silmarillion

  • @PleaseNThankYou
    @PleaseNThankYou 2 месяца назад

    Original Silmarillion, please.

  • @RyanGr33n
    @RyanGr33n 2 месяца назад +3

    In Christian theology, everything God creates, Satan perverts and makes his own counterfeits, Tolkien makes this a clear theme in his writings that Morgoth never has power enough to create anything new on his own, all he can do is counterfeit. He cannot create light so he destroys the trees and steals the Silmarili, he needs to capture eagles to make flying dragons, he needs to capture elves to make Uruk Hai, etc. Tolkien is orders of magnitude deeper if you can read him through biblical lens.

    • @alfredoreliford3329
      @alfredoreliford3329 Месяц назад

      🎯🙏🏽🎯. Yea, point on,mate…

    • @RaelThomas
      @RaelThomas 17 дней назад

      And orders of magnitude deeper still if you can read it through it's own lense, without need for allegory on every facet of his creation..

  • @user-sd7ri9fy4i
    @user-sd7ri9fy4i 2 месяца назад

    The arginine! Sal.

  • @AliesWatson-fr4he
    @AliesWatson-fr4he Месяц назад

    The original!

  • @SomaSong
    @SomaSong 2 месяца назад

    The original silmarilian

  • @ghost21501
    @ghost21501 2 месяца назад

    Everything You Need to Know to Get Up to Speed on the Orcs!!!

  • @royalbluecoopty1110
    @royalbluecoopty1110 2 месяца назад +1

    Everything*

  • @oliverjones5350
    @oliverjones5350 2 месяца назад

    The original Silmarillion, down below.

  • @Pre-op8ut
    @Pre-op8ut 2 месяца назад

    It was a mockery of himself.

  • @timesthree5757
    @timesthree5757 2 месяца назад

    No it's not a problem, and that they are corrupted elves is canon. It makes sense giving Melkors personality. Tolkien's letters are not canon

  • @Deehounds
    @Deehounds 10 дней назад +1

    ⚡⚡⚡❤️❤️❤️⚡⚡⚡🇲🇽

  • @AdamHubby99
    @AdamHubby99 2 месяца назад

    The original silmarillion

  • @caseynash9729
    @caseynash9729 2 месяца назад

    Did orcs inherit immortality from the elves?

  • @ArtShram
    @ArtShram Месяц назад

    Original, please!

  • @morgoth173
    @morgoth173 2 месяца назад

    Video 294

  • @Special_Tactics_Force_Unit
    @Special_Tactics_Force_Unit 21 день назад

    Orcs, the ultimate jobbers of Middle Earth.

  • @grahamlyon9329
    @grahamlyon9329 2 месяца назад +1

    Might want to proof read your title.

  • @GloriousRAT
    @GloriousRAT 2 месяца назад

    Framing device? I've been using one without even knowing what it was called. LOL Now on to other matters... In my Realms of Erda (Pronounced: Air duh) Orcs, Goblins, and Hobgoblins are different races. Orcs & Goblins were crafted by the gods during Arithorund ( Pronounced: Uh rith oh rund), the Waking Age of Erda. Hobgoblins along with Chymaveds (my version of Bugbears [WotC property]) came soon afterwards, as the two "parent" races intermixed. Hobgoblins & Chymaveds (Pronounced: Kee muh veds) interact regularly, but it is physical differences that delineate these two "children" races. Hobgoblins look more like their Goblin ancestors, having sharply pointed ears and noses. The Chymaveds by contrast have rounder ears and more bulbous noses, looking less Goblin-like. All four races can and will work together. Their future? Orcs have lived for too long under the lash of others, primarily the Dark Elves. They launch a rebellion and win their freedom (a novel in my next series). Goblins during the unrest of the Orc rebellion become a completely mercenary society; mining & crafting for whoever pays them the most. Hobgolins & Chymaveds, as a lesser evolved pair of races, remain in servitude, they know no other life.

  • @itsjawzz
    @itsjawzz Месяц назад

    who tf posts an marvel ad before a lotr video? blasphemy

  • @funkfamily4165
    @funkfamily4165 2 месяца назад

    40:50 who wouldn't want to date a female orc lol?

  • @cheesewald
    @cheesewald 13 дней назад

    Yeah, sure! But you already made several Videos on this topic!
    That makes this for a.... fan.... former fan... Not enjoyable.
    You made you´re lot. There is nothing new, you simply will not hold in the long run

  • @nathanworthington4451
    @nathanworthington4451 2 месяца назад

    Pretty mediocre and redundant video. Plus this channel has sketchy numbers.

  • @Saber23
    @Saber23 2 месяца назад

    Since when was “choice” a moral problem with something like this? And since when the hell did it make a difference where evil behaviour and beings came from? All that matters is that they exist and need to be dealt with

    • @joedatius
      @joedatius 2 месяца назад

      because the larger implications is how likely they would be of being freed of that control and being able to be redeemed of their deeds. Its a pretty big deal especially considering how Gollum is in many ways the same as an Orc, a perversion of the goodness of Halflings, who's possible redemption was almost achieved if it wasn't for the actions others.