Well done team! 1200 rounds in a quick amount of time, demonstrates a level of quality and design ingenuity that is an epic achievement. With that level of quality you may find a semi auto variant is something you can start selling overseas. Would love to see a dirt/water torture test too. Great work and i cant wait to get one. 🎉
As a steel specialist, I was surprised you guys chose aluminium for the gas block, and great news you will now make these from a suitable steel (ideally the same grade as the barrel) so as to increase toughness, strength and similar heat expansion characteristics. I can understand why you did this in the first instance for ease and economy of manufacture, but in this high-stress area this was going to be an Achilles heel 100%. It gives me great comfort that you guys are doing such work to ensure the product you are going to settle on is the best that it can be. It certainly will shade all the other options out there.
Thanks mate. Yeah we certainly learned a lesson that day. Then again, we were always going to break something we didn't see coming....just the nature of testing to failure.
@AustralianSportingAgencies thinking about it too mate, the torque forces from the piston driving the heavy bolt forward would stress the bottom front portion of the block especially when hot. This is evident in that being the failure point of the aluminium part, elongation of the hole around the roll pin etc.
Very good to see fellas, looks like we may have a winner here. Very impressed with how well it ran especially compared to some manually operated rifles on the market currently. Im glad you guys are doing your due diligence in regards to testing because i feel better about spending the 2k+ on one where other rifles on the market havnt really been tested much and aren't showing to much promise in long term reliability. Cheers, Keen to get my hands on one!
Amazing. Thanks for the update. Held up very well. Failure at discrete parts is fine; simple to remanufacture. This is going to be a disruptive product.
@@AustralianSportingAgenciesWe can wait on the proper update but are you able to give us a hint on whether you're winning or losing the fight? Also are you planning to put a preorder option for NSW on the website so we can get our names on the list?
@@ryanfletcher6456 There are no NSW applicable parts. It literally says "!!!! We are not yet NSW approved, we need to wait another 2-3 weeks until we hopefully receive approval in NSW, so please do not order just yet!!!!" on the first page when you go to buy it. Also the stock page has "Prohibited in NSW" on every single option. A preorder page for NSW residents will allow us to get ourselves in the queue so when it does get approved we're not left waiting behind every other state that was able to buy it from day one.
I remember seeing cupronickel build up on the gas plug with brand new AUG Steyrs. After a few hundred rounds, the issue went away. I attributed it to a sharp edge on the gas port.
When's production getting out to people fellas? I'm selling my 7615 for one. Great work, and I'm impressed with the amount of effort you've put in. It's good to see more Australian manufacturers.
Thanks mate, I am hoping for assembly in Jan. Rick will probably announce something in the new year. Mind you, receivers are the slowest to make and we are in full production for the last 4 weeks, we just need to put them together when the last missing part arrives which is quickly done.
SCSA obviously didn’t do this with the taipan, and it’s damaged their brand greatly. Great to see these guys taking their time and having pride in their workmanship & final product….also shows respect for the consumer and their hard earned cash. ✊🔥
If I check the top of the piston for carbon after roughly 400 rounds is any carbon build up something that requires a tool or small screwdriver, or could it be rubbed off with a rag or kitchen green scouring pad ?
There are two parts to this, one is that it will be nitrated, so that will reduce build up, in addition we will recommend a certain product that will also reduce any build up. A small screw driver and some solvent should be able to do the rest if it ever builds up.
Once the deposits get like that they are caked on pretty hard and would unlikely just come off with a rag. Some CLP and a brass brush might do it in my experience but in other gas operated firearms I’ve used I would use my little screw driver or a pocket knife.
By the video the top of the butt looks like is slightly angled down ? Why and why not straight in line with the bore ? Does it still have a milspec tube internally on the butt and can it still be replaced with differing styles of buttstocks ?
I hear you, but the issue is the different speeds of expansion of the metals. Meaning that after 1-2 shots, there will be a small gap between the metals.....only for a period of time but still a gap. I since also learned that all high end ARs use steel and no one in the US wants to buy allow gas piston ARs anymore. That said, the steel one could be designed thinner hence may weigh the same. But that's up to Rick and JIm, not to me.
So, the rifle has an inability to fire 1500 rds in quick succession without cleaning. I'm not sure that is a deal breaker for me. Also, at about $1.00 a round, I can't see me pumping 1500 through it in quick succession.
@@AustralianSportingAgencies yeah but who is going to buy one now in WA just to enjoy it for a few weeks max if that and lose all the money when they have to get rid of it
My question is how many people are going to buy this rifle when so many shooters are selling off center fire rifles and going to smallbore rimfire shooting because of the cost, it's cheaper to shoot smallbore and you shoot more. Maybe you guys need to look at making a quality made smallbore Target and/or sporter! but great work guys.
Cheers mate, I hear you. However, this gun is a hunting and culling rifle.....with some IPSC application depending on the calibre. This gun is fun to shoot, but its about the terminal ballistics and quick target acquisition, not about the ammo price. Hope that makes sense?
Why not go back to the original gas block design. Clamshell with two or three bolts clamping it on the barrel. I gather it's heavy enough as it is and doesn't need military level durability
It comes down to the expansion rates being different between alloy and steel. No matter how tight, it will always start to leak during the heating process, it may close up again, but there will be a time where it will leak and cause issues.
Superb results, and to know it’s only going to be improved from here is giving me heaps of faith for this firearms reliability. Cant wait to finally get our grubby mitts on it. Happy holidays everyone!
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Well done team! 1200 rounds in a quick amount of time, demonstrates a level of quality and design ingenuity that is an epic achievement. With that level of quality you may find a semi auto variant is something you can start selling overseas. Would love to see a dirt/water torture test too. Great work and i cant wait to get one. 🎉
As a steel specialist, I was surprised you guys chose aluminium for the gas block, and great news you will now make these from a suitable steel (ideally the same grade as the barrel) so as to increase toughness, strength and similar heat expansion characteristics. I can understand why you did this in the first instance for ease and economy of manufacture, but in this high-stress area this was going to be an Achilles heel 100%. It gives me great comfort that you guys are doing such work to ensure the product you are going to settle on is the best that it can be. It certainly will shade all the other options out there.
Thanks mate. Yeah we certainly learned a lesson that day. Then again, we were always going to break something we didn't see coming....just the nature of testing to failure.
@AustralianSportingAgencies thinking about it too mate, the torque forces from the piston driving the heavy bolt forward would stress the bottom front portion of the block especially when hot. This is evident in that being the failure point of the aluminium part, elongation of the hole around the roll pin etc.
bang on mate!
Great work men. Very happy watching the progress and very keen to support and buy 🇦🇺
Much appreciated!
Very good to see fellas, looks like we may have a winner here. Very impressed with how well it ran especially compared to some manually operated rifles on the market currently. Im glad you guys are doing your due diligence in regards to testing because i feel better about spending the 2k+ on one where other rifles on the market havnt really been tested much and aren't showing to much promise in long term reliability. Cheers, Keen to get my hands on one!
Thanks mate!! Much appreciated
Great to see such thorough testing, a great example of how to make "Made in Australia" convey pride and quality.
Big thanks mate, means a lot to us!
Amazing. Thanks for the update. Held up very well. Failure at discrete parts is fine; simple to remanufacture. This is going to be a disruptive product.
Thanks, mate. we hope it will be a popular gun and a household brand in the long term. Cheers for the support!
Great work lads. Excellent to see the level of care you blokes have in your own product, even better you lot are home grown...
Much appreciated! Cheers mate!
Any word whether this has been approved in NSW?
Not yet, Rick is going to give an update on this in the New Year.
@@AustralianSportingAgenciesWe can wait on the proper update but are you able to give us a hint on whether you're winning or losing the fight?
Also are you planning to put a preorder option for NSW on the website so we can get our names on the list?
You've just got to check the boxes on the NSW applicable parts when you pay for it.
If you haven't preordered yet, you'll be in for a wait
@@ryanfletcher6456 There are no NSW applicable parts.
It literally says "!!!! We are not yet NSW approved, we need to wait another 2-3 weeks until we hopefully receive approval in NSW, so please do not order just yet!!!!" on the first page when you go to buy it. Also the stock page has "Prohibited in NSW" on every single option.
A preorder page for NSW residents will allow us to get ourselves in the queue so when it does get approved we're not left waiting behind every other state that was able to buy it from day one.
Great point, i'll see what i can do after Christmas. The hint is "Supreme Court".
I recognize the handsome fella with the glasses and sleeve tatts. Good to see so many experienced blokes involved
Don't give him too much sweet talk.....he is already playing the good looks card 😀
I remember seeing cupronickel build up on the gas plug with brand new AUG Steyrs. After a few hundred rounds, the issue went away. I attributed it to a sharp edge on the gas port.
Interesting
When's production getting out to people fellas? I'm selling my 7615 for one. Great work, and I'm impressed with the amount of effort you've put in. It's good to see more Australian manufacturers.
Thanks mate, I am hoping for assembly in Jan. Rick will probably announce something in the new year. Mind you, receivers are the slowest to make and we are in full production for the last 4 weeks, we just need to put them together when the last missing part arrives which is quickly done.
SCSA obviously didn’t do this with the taipan, and it’s damaged their brand greatly. Great to see these guys taking their time and having pride in their workmanship & final product….also shows respect for the consumer and their hard earned cash. ✊🔥
Thanks mate, fair point on the hard earned money. Great way of looking at it! Glad you enjoyed it.
Great effort, gentlemen. 👍🇭🇲
Thank you kindly
Excellent video Gentlemen for us it will be a rifle with a 20 inch barrel . I there an option to fir a flash hider to the barrel ?
The gun will come threaded and with a flash hidder. So yes 😀
If I check the top of the piston for carbon after roughly 400 rounds is any carbon build up something that requires a tool or small screwdriver, or could it be rubbed off with a rag or kitchen green scouring pad ?
There are two parts to this, one is that it will be nitrated, so that will reduce build up, in addition we will recommend a certain product that will also reduce any build up. A small screw driver and some solvent should be able to do the rest if it ever builds up.
Once the deposits get like that they are caked on pretty hard and would unlikely just come off with a rag. Some CLP and a brass brush might do it in my experience but in other gas operated firearms I’ve used I would use my little screw driver or a pocket knife.
Thank you
It’s coming along nicely 👍.
Thanks 👍
Also are they propietry mags or mdt pmag ?
Proprietary, not mdt or magpul but KeyArma
Chasing one in 243 or 308. Can we use Swann Barrels?
@@chrisengelbrecht5317 you would need a entirely different upper and lower receiver
You could, but we would need to redesign the receivers. 308 mags won't fit it.
What drugs is this guy on?
@@ryanfletcher6456 Ryan, You referring to me or why you responding to my question?
@chrisengelbrecht5317 there was another comment that got removed.
Your ideas are gold
On your website, it says you are using a 10 round polymer magazine. Will these be pmags?
They are a 10round pmag but they are not a Magpul brand, if that is what you asking.
@@AustralianSportingAgencies any chance you'll be offering 30 round mags for the states that can have them? 😁
I am trying to find a profitable way to make magazines in Oz, and when I do, then yes. So far I haven't tho.
By the video the top of the butt looks like is slightly angled down ? Why and why not straight in line with the bore ? Does it still have a milspec tube internally on the butt and can it still be replaced with differing styles of buttstocks ?
We offer a straight adapter and an angled one. You can choose them in the customisation on eurekaguns.au. Have a look, I explain everything there.
And yes they are milspec on the straight and angled adapter
I’m honestly considering not buying any leaver release now after WA
I would rather the alluminum gas block over steel, the rifle is already overweight and i'm not planning on shooting 1000 rounds in a single segment
I hear you, but the issue is the different speeds of expansion of the metals. Meaning that after 1-2 shots, there will be a small gap between the metals.....only for a period of time but still a gap. I since also learned that all high end ARs use steel and no one in the US wants to buy allow gas piston ARs anymore. That said, the steel one could be designed thinner hence may weigh the same. But that's up to Rick and JIm, not to me.
So, the rifle has an inability to fire 1500 rds in quick succession without cleaning.
I'm not sure that is a deal breaker for me.
Also, at about $1.00 a round, I can't see me pumping 1500 through it in quick succession.
It definitely needs to be made available here in nanny state NSW, I’m sick and tired of these so called appearance laws they are a joke.
Cheers mate, I think Rick is planning something very interesting with NSW. Stay tuned, more in the new year
Now classed as a machine gun in WA
BBBBRRRRRRRR I miss my MG3.....good old days
These are sadly now illegal in Western Australia
Enforced from March 31 2025 onwards
That's right, not yet.
@@AustralianSportingAgencies yeah but who is going to buy one now in WA just to enjoy it for a few weeks max if that and lose all the money when they have to get rid of it
Is it another appearance law shenanigan?
@@jasperpendlebury4551 No, all lever and button release firearms are banned. Same thing happened in the UK.
My question is how many people are going to buy this rifle when so many shooters are selling off center fire rifles and going to smallbore rimfire shooting because of the cost, it's cheaper to shoot smallbore and you shoot more. Maybe you guys need to look at making a quality made smallbore Target and/or sporter! but great work guys.
Cheers mate, I hear you. However, this gun is a hunting and culling rifle.....with some IPSC application depending on the calibre. This gun is fun to shoot, but its about the terminal ballistics and quick target acquisition, not about the ammo price. Hope that makes sense?
Why not go back to the original gas block design. Clamshell with two or three bolts clamping it on the barrel. I gather it's heavy enough as it is and doesn't need military level durability
It comes down to the expansion rates being different between alloy and steel. No matter how tight, it will always start to leak during the heating process, it may close up again, but there will be a time where it will leak and cause issues.
Labor party has a better chance at a murdoch party, nice effort though
lol yeah and thanks!
Well done lads. Looking forward to stocking and keeping the made in Australia going strong. 🇦🇺🦘
Thanks Ross!
Superb results, and to know it’s only going to be improved from here is giving me heaps of faith for this firearms reliability. Cant wait to finally get our grubby mitts on it. Happy holidays everyone!
Thanks mate you too