Its like a candle that can light another candle, when a Guru appointed the next Guru, then that light of Guru Nanak dev ji went into that body and lit it up so it became one with Akaal Purakh and had the power of SatGuru. You should read the English Translation of Raamkali Ki Vaar (from SGGS). RUclips channel RajKaregaKhalsa has it as video with English subtitles. Thanks for watching.
Im Sikh and honestly Im pretty lost😭 he says Guru Nanak dev ji and God are the same at the start then 3:09 he says Waheguru is seperate. Someone please clear this up for me, many thanks🙏
He says god has never taken form on earth because he hasn’t. God is unfathomable, incomprehensible and indescribable. He is beyond birth and he is beyond death. Guru is god. Like he said a cup of water from the same ocean that is god. But god as a whole which is the entirety of that ocean has never been born and has never died. Gurus sing the praises of god. Read jap sahib meaning to see how guru gobind Singh ji describes god.
The jot is satguru and is indeed vaheguru manifest and this is what got passed on when Guru Nanak Dev Ji bowed down to Bhai Lehna Ji who then became Guru Angad Dev Ji, the vessel containing the Guru Jot and so on until now that Jot resides within Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji,
The entirety of god can’t not be understood nor can it in incarnate like how Christian’s think of Jesus but god is in everything and everyone, it is one with its creation and it is also separate in a different aspect, however if Sun light was god then the Gurus were like the moon reflecting that same light
There is a place in Gurbani that states, the Guru and God are One. Both are perfect and don't make mistakes," also Gurbani states that Guru Arjun Dev Ji is the personification of the Lord and may other places so from this I believe they are the SAME. Keep reading gurbani; I believe Waheguru will guide you. I am not an expert nay Waheguru Ji forgive me if I made any mistake. 🙏
When you say he never taken form on earth. This contradicts 'The Formless Lord took form, and with His Light illuminated the realms of the world.' (Bhatt Keerat Ji - Angela 13951) How is this different from Hinduism? How is this not Idolatry?
Some people might tell you not to do so. But understand that such people have never understood the whole concept in detail. Worship of the guru is worship of the Lord because there is no difference between the two. In my personal spiritual experience, you soley worship God and it will take years for you to attain enlightment. If you fall at the feet of guru, you can be liberated even in an instant. Worship God in his orginial form as well as in his Guru form
If I had the opportunity to connect with you, I can show you 100's of panktis be it from Guru Granth sahib ji or even from other Dharmas like vedas, shrastras ,etc which have evidenced this fact. There is no restriction to worship guru as god
Thanks that's great and I understand what you are saying. But then I'm a bit confused about when people say the Guru's all shared Guru Nanak's one light, could you explain that a bit more please. Sorry but I am learning!
When they say ‘guru Nanaks’ light they mean his state of being his spiritual avasta. It’s not exclusive to guru Nanak dev ji. Like saying you have someone’s characterises you arent the same but have the same characterises
I think this might be one of the rare times Bhai Sahib has made a mistake. Waheguru has indeed taken birth and walked the earth as confirmed by Bhatta De Savayie. Anyone confused please read the entire shabad - "Aap narayan kala dhar jag meh parvero"
I have one question in my mind from last 3 months i have searched everywhere but didn't get any positive satisfied response actually my question is that we believe in gurubani also its written that we should worship one god and follow one guru but i have seen people followed gurunanak ji also and baba deep singh ji also so i wanted to know that i believe in gurunanak ji i pray to him my all things i say to him but someone asked me to go to baba deep singh ji gurudwara and pray there for your need so i m confused that is it ok to pray two guru's of Sikhism i mean i m not getting the difference please kindly explain
1) Baba Deep Singh ji was a mahapurakh ( A person with high spiritual mastery ) . He followed guru and guru's bani and was blessed with his grace (Gur Prasad) 2) If a gurudwara is named after Baba Deep Singh ji it doesn't mean that we are worshipping him or there is an idol of him in the gurudwara . Every gurudwara has prakash (Illumination) of guru granth sahib ji only . 3) Gurudwaras are named after saints and shaheeds (martyrs) only due to historical factors of where the gurudwara is build and so that we can take teachings from the life of these mahapurakhs and see that gurus grace can transform is into something greater than we can fathom . For example that baba deep Singh ji fought for righteousness with his decapitated head on his hand
gurwinder singh, how can something be one with it but not be it at the same time? Its clear from gurbani that guru sahib is the complete embodiment of god on earth. ‘Guru arjan partakh har’. Theres two forms, nirgun (formless god) and sargun (god of form/guru sahib). So theres a difference but there just two forms of the same thing.
Not really, The complete essence of god has never seen birth and death, it is eternal. However, The Divine will of god or the truth just like a cup of water as mentioned in this video is in this world to dispel darkness so we can merge with god.
How? The Gurus exercised God's will, they didn't claim that God is confined to these 10 forms. God stretched out his hand and sent 10 complete pooran forms of himself to exercise his will, those are the Gurus. By forms I mean divine light within, not physical bodies. God can take any form he chooses, but he has one true form that is formless. I believe that's what Sikhi teaches us.
If the guru became guru because of them practice God's will, then every sikh is a guru. Then there will be not only 10 gurus but many gurus. And all sikh will worship themselves each others due to the reason of God in within me. Lol If theres no guru, then there is no god?hahaha. It is clear that God is almighty, God didnt need to put himself into a human body to show his powerful. When it is a CREATION, then it is a creation. Not a CREATOR. How arrogant someone can be by saying they are god, god within me
@@rafifah.a bro keep your beliefs with you.. don't try to shove them down to someone's throats.. giving a perspective or religious belief with some reference is one thing, and speaking in ego to claim that the other is wrong without even understanding them is other.. western and eastern spirituality are different and Sikhism is purely eastern..
@@jasjeetsingh6220 Bhaji he has a good question - anyone whether it be Guru or any person claiming that God is Guru and Guru is God - that is more of Polytheism belief system. Yes or on?
@@MyTechniqueWorksnot polytheism at all. Eastern philosophy of an all pervaiding God is far more advanced than the simplistic view held within abrahamical religions. Gurbani says God has no attributes while also have all attributes, hard to fathom right but if God isn't all pervaiding then there is something bigger than God containing all this creation and him too. Why is it difficult to accept that God could infuse his own light in a being on earth making that Guru a perfect unblemished beacon for all souls to merge back to the divine. If God is all powerful and certainly doesn't need to ask our permission to do anything then why can God not create such a system of God and satguru, whether you truly understand it or not, satguru's nature is completely unfathomable also! ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਮੇਰਾ ਸਦਾ ਸਦਾ ਨਾ ਆਵੈ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥ My True Guru, forever and ever, does not come and go. ਓਹੁ ਅਬਿਨਾਸੀ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਮਹਿ ਰਹਿਆ ਸਮਾਇ ॥੧੩॥ He is the Imperishable Creator Lord; He is permeating and pervading among all. ||13|| If satguru does not come and go as per the above revelation, then what is the satguru? The physical body? Or the jot within perhaps.. This is the true nature of the satguru and the above revelation clearly says that the satguru is the Imperishable lord but don't merely think about physical body, rise above these worldly eyes and ignorance, become a sponge to the Guru's wisdom and they will make you realise their true form
Thats confusing. He said guru nanak ji not is god but hes from another angle!! Which one is it? According to mol mantar this explaination would be flawed. Also guru Arjan ji statement would be contradictory if mol mantar is taken into consideration. Both statements were not from guru nanak dev ji himself.
don't think about it too much. We worship God only according to the way that Guru teaches us. Here is my logic: I think we should worship god only which is ajooni. If Gurus are God, we would still be worshipping to them and since they are the same we are worshipping only One God and if Guru aren't God, we wouldn't still be worshipping God because thats what we should do. Guru Gobind Singh ji says that whoever calls me god, will go to hell. I think it was a way to prevent us from worshipping them and their body because it can eventually lead to idol worshipping. Like hindus do worship of their demigods like ram, shiva and vishnu or whatever and they make idols of them to worship. BUT IT IS JUST WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS ABOUT IT. THERE IS A BIG CHANCE I COULD BE WRONG AND MY THINKING WOULD NOT REPRESENT TRUE SIKHI.
@@josh-l4r8kyes indded you are correct, Guru Gobind Singh Ji was drilling home the point of not attaching to the physical body because they knew after them there would be no human form Gurus. However, the Guru Jot is unfathomable and indestructable and is completely vaheguru as per gurbani, this is absolutely to be worshiped and followed, how? Loving devotion of the gurmantra and seva of the satguru jot which for all of eternity is now residing in Guru Granth Sahib Ji
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Its like a candle that can light another candle, when a Guru appointed the next Guru, then that light of Guru Nanak dev ji went into that body and lit it up so it became one with Akaal Purakh and had the power of SatGuru. You should read the English Translation of Raamkali Ki Vaar (from SGGS). RUclips channel RajKaregaKhalsa has it as video with English subtitles. Thanks for watching.
This is all confusing .Confusion created by poems of Bhat sahibans in sggs .
So is guru nanak dev ji the one who created everything that exists?
@@zhugeliangkongming479 no ,guru nanak sahib was not god,he was send by God ,,,
Kangeur Noorani, rocket science is confusing, did u expect the nature of the almighty to be simple?
Soumya Sahu, we believe guru jee to be the manifestation of the formless God which created everything.
5:06 Correction - Guru Harkrishan Sahib ji is the 8th Nanak.
fantastic explanation veer,keep up the great parchaar.
Im Sikh and honestly Im pretty lost😭 he says Guru Nanak dev ji and God are the same at the start then 3:09 he says Waheguru is seperate. Someone please clear this up for me, many thanks🙏
He says god has never taken form on earth because he hasn’t. God is unfathomable, incomprehensible and indescribable. He is beyond birth and he is beyond death.
Guru is god. Like he said a cup of water from the same ocean that is god.
But god as a whole which is the entirety of that ocean has never been born and has never died.
Gurus sing the praises of god. Read jap sahib meaning to see how guru gobind Singh ji describes god.
Guru is the Image of God like Moon is the Image of the Sun like a Son has DNA of the Father.
The Eternal being lives in the Guru as Truth.
The jot is satguru and is indeed vaheguru manifest and this is what got passed on when Guru Nanak Dev Ji bowed down to Bhai Lehna Ji who then became Guru Angad Dev Ji, the vessel containing the Guru Jot and so on until now that Jot resides within Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji,
The entirety of god can’t not be understood nor can it in incarnate like how Christian’s think of Jesus but god is in everything and everyone, it is one with its creation and it is also separate in a different aspect, however if Sun light was god then the Gurus were like the moon reflecting that same light
There is a place in Gurbani that states, the Guru and God are One. Both are perfect and don't make mistakes," also Gurbani states that Guru Arjun Dev Ji is the personification of the Lord and may other places so from this I believe they are the SAME.
Keep reading gurbani; I believe Waheguru will guide you.
I am not an expert nay Waheguru Ji forgive me if I made any mistake. 🙏
Indeed, Thanks ji, much appreciated. My bad!
Amazing video!
When you say he never taken form on earth. This contradicts
'The Formless Lord took form, and with His Light illuminated the realms of the world.'
(Bhatt Keerat Ji - Angela 13951)
How is this different from Hinduism? How is this not Idolatry?
Angela 13951?
Also reminds me of Jesus
Never taken before he revealed himself as nanak so at present lord form is nanak
SGGS has 1430 angs (pages) only
He never became on earth ji. He was an enlightened being he had Wahegurus light inside him but he was not the Full Waheguru if u get what I’m saying.
So we shouldn't worship 10 gurus as god?
no
Some people might tell you not to do so. But understand that such people have never understood the whole concept in detail. Worship of the guru is worship of the Lord because there is no difference between the two. In my personal spiritual experience, you soley worship God and it will take years for you to attain enlightment. If you fall at the feet of guru, you can be liberated even in an instant. Worship God in his orginial form as well as in his Guru form
If I had the opportunity to connect with you, I can show you 100's of panktis be it from Guru Granth sahib ji or even from other Dharmas like vedas, shrastras ,etc which have evidenced this fact. There is no restriction to worship guru as god
Its like water and vapour. One is visible while the other is invisible. The form is different but the substance is same- H20
No definitely don't do that
Thanks that's great and I understand what you are saying. But then I'm a bit confused about when people say the Guru's all shared Guru Nanak's one light, could you explain that a bit more please. Sorry but I am learning!
This is confusing , all hypothetical .
Just like a candle lights another
When they say ‘guru Nanaks’ light they mean his state of being his spiritual avasta. It’s not exclusive to guru Nanak dev ji. Like saying you have someone’s characterises you arent the same but have the same characterises
I think this might be one of the rare times Bhai Sahib has made a mistake. Waheguru has indeed taken birth and walked the earth as confirmed by Bhatta De Savayie. Anyone confused please read the entire shabad - "Aap narayan kala dhar jag meh parvero"
I have one question in my mind from last 3 months i have searched everywhere but didn't get any positive satisfied response actually my question is that we believe in gurubani also its written that we should worship one god and follow one guru but i have seen people followed gurunanak ji also and baba deep singh ji also so i wanted to know that i believe in gurunanak ji i pray to him my all things i say to him but someone asked me to go to baba deep singh ji gurudwara and pray there for your need so i m confused that is it ok to pray two guru's of Sikhism i mean i m not getting the difference please kindly explain
I have the same question
1) Baba Deep Singh ji was a mahapurakh ( A person with high spiritual mastery ) . He followed guru and guru's bani and was blessed with his grace (Gur Prasad)
2) If a gurudwara is named after Baba Deep Singh ji it doesn't mean that we are worshipping him or there is an idol of him in the gurudwara . Every gurudwara has prakash (Illumination) of guru granth sahib ji only .
3) Gurudwaras are named after saints and shaheeds (martyrs)
only due to historical factors of where the gurudwara is build and so that we can take teachings from the life of these mahapurakhs and see that gurus grace can transform is into something greater than we can fathom . For example that baba deep Singh ji fought for righteousness with his decapitated head on his hand
You shouldn’t pray to gurus physical form. Focus on the presence of Waheguru which is within you and all around us.
to the best of my knowledge Guru Nanak died a natural death, did you confuse him with any other Guru when you say he was tortured??
so are the gurus waheuguru or not
sikh gurus were one with God not god
gurwinder singh, how can something be one with it but not be it at the same time? Its clear from gurbani that guru sahib is the complete embodiment of god on earth. ‘Guru arjan partakh har’. Theres two forms, nirgun (formless god) and sargun (god of form/guru sahib). So theres a difference but there just two forms of the same thing.
@@taransingh6876 True, its like Ice , water and vapour. There are three different forms but its the same thing
No they are not.
@@hurryupnow1 yes they are . Guru sahib is saying in baani:
Gur parmesar eko jaan jo tis bhaave so parvaan
That was just a bunch of incoherent thoughts. Very confusing
Not really, The complete essence of god has never seen birth and death, it is eternal. However, The Divine will of god or the truth just like a cup of water as mentioned in this video is in this world to dispel darkness so we can merge with god.
God never takes avtars and any Human being can't be God
You only saying that cos your muslim.
can god control a human form
That is the end of skihism being a religion one God with no partners. Now you have elevated a human to be part of God.
How? The Gurus exercised God's will, they didn't claim that God is confined to these 10 forms. God stretched out his hand and sent 10 complete pooran forms of himself to exercise his will, those are the Gurus. By forms I mean divine light within, not physical bodies. God can take any form he chooses, but he has one true form that is formless. I believe that's what Sikhi teaches us.
If the guru became guru because of them practice God's will, then every sikh is a guru. Then there will be not only 10 gurus but many gurus. And all sikh will worship themselves each others due to the reason of God in within me. Lol
If theres no guru, then there is no god?hahaha.
It is clear that God is almighty, God didnt need to put himself into a human body to show his powerful. When it is a CREATION, then it is a creation. Not a CREATOR. How arrogant someone can be by saying they are god, god within me
@@rafifah.a bro keep your beliefs with you.. don't try to shove them down to someone's throats.. giving a perspective or religious belief with some reference is one thing, and speaking in ego to claim that the other is wrong without even understanding them is other.. western and eastern spirituality are different and Sikhism is purely eastern..
@@jasjeetsingh6220 Bhaji he has a good question - anyone whether it be Guru or any person claiming that God is Guru and Guru is God - that is more of Polytheism belief system. Yes or on?
@@MyTechniqueWorksnot polytheism at all. Eastern philosophy of an all pervaiding God is far more advanced than the simplistic view held within abrahamical religions. Gurbani says God has no attributes while also have all attributes, hard to fathom right but if God isn't all pervaiding then there is something bigger than God containing all this creation and him too. Why is it difficult to accept that God could infuse his own light in a being on earth making that Guru a perfect unblemished beacon for all souls to merge back to the divine. If God is all powerful and certainly doesn't need to ask our permission to do anything then why can God not create such a system of God and satguru, whether you truly understand it or not, satguru's nature is completely unfathomable also!
ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਮੇਰਾ ਸਦਾ ਸਦਾ ਨਾ ਆਵੈ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥
My True Guru, forever and ever, does not come and go.
ਓਹੁ ਅਬਿਨਾਸੀ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਮਹਿ ਰਹਿਆ ਸਮਾਇ ॥੧੩॥
He is the Imperishable Creator Lord; He is permeating and pervading among all. ||13||
If satguru does not come and go as per the above revelation, then what is the satguru? The physical body? Or the jot within perhaps.. This is the true nature of the satguru and the above revelation clearly says that the satguru is the Imperishable lord but don't merely think about physical body, rise above these worldly eyes and ignorance, become a sponge to the Guru's wisdom and they will make you realise their true form
Thats confusing. He said guru nanak ji not is god but hes from another angle!! Which one is it?
According to mol mantar this explaination would be flawed. Also guru Arjan ji statement would be contradictory if mol mantar is taken into consideration.
Both statements were not from guru nanak dev ji himself.
go learn about nirguna and sarguna
@@jassimarsingh6505 Thank you for confirming my statement.
don't think about it too much. We worship God only according to the way that Guru teaches us.
Here is my logic:
I think we should worship god only which is ajooni. If Gurus are God, we would still be worshipping to them and since they are the same we are worshipping only One God and if Guru aren't God, we wouldn't still be worshipping God because thats what we should do.
Guru Gobind Singh ji says that whoever calls me god, will go to hell.
I think it was a way to prevent us from worshipping them and their body because it can eventually lead to idol worshipping.
Like hindus do worship of their demigods like ram, shiva and vishnu or whatever and they make idols of them to worship.
BUT IT IS JUST WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS ABOUT IT. THERE IS A BIG CHANCE I COULD BE WRONG AND MY THINKING WOULD NOT REPRESENT TRUE SIKHI.
@@josh-l4r8kyes indded you are correct, Guru Gobind Singh Ji was drilling home the point of not attaching to the physical body because they knew after them there would be no human form Gurus. However, the Guru Jot is unfathomable and indestructable and is completely vaheguru as per gurbani, this is absolutely to be worshiped and followed, how? Loving devotion of the gurmantra and seva of the satguru jot which for all of eternity is now residing in Guru Granth Sahib Ji
🤔👉sun is guru or light's is guru👈👉😊
Sherlock 🕵️👉Joseph
Mistake of book😂😮
Its just a human philosphy human mind, another false teacher. ...x
Jesus Christ is lord and saviour of all nations of the world
may jesus bless you with some humility to listen and learn.. going to comment sections and spitting hate doesn't make anything true or false..
Well fuck your mythological lord
it says in bible when jesus returns he will shave mens legs with a hired razor fam
Guru Gobind Singh ji said whoever calls me God will go to hell .God never takes birth .All the gurus were saints of God
They're not gods but carried the light and divine will of god
@unusualbug1113 true