Private Investigator Fred Otash Exposed Hollywood's Biggest Secrets

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  • Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024

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  • @clintcord5839
    @clintcord5839 3 года назад +19

    1342 N Laurel Ave, Hollywood, as shown at 36 and 1:39 used to be MY apartment in the late 70's for nearly a decade!! I NEVER knew it had such a "historical" past - dang!

  • @Colstonewall
    @Colstonewall 3 года назад +17

    They said Monroe's house had more wires in it than an AT&T building. Supposedly Otash had recordings of JFK, RFK, and Mobsters with Marilyn.

  • @NDDNetwork
    @NDDNetwork 2 года назад +7

    I find this very interesting as I dated Fred Otash in Miami Beach, He owned Lilly Dache' Salone in Bal Harbor Miami, I would work it for him some times, that was his cover up for Hazel Bishop. I lived with him for over two years, a lot of these stories are very true as sometimes we would just talk and he would relay these stories to me, fascinating life for both of us??? I still have the ring he had made for me, it was the same as his, like being married but no wedding. He would get very sick at times as he suffered from Malaria over the years.

  • @heavenawilson5140
    @heavenawilson5140 3 года назад +29

    He was a private investigator..He likely made several copies of each of his Famous Files..So who knows what is likely to be found..

    • @glenturney4750
      @glenturney4750 3 года назад +1

      I COMMEND Fred Otash for being a moral man. I know that there were sour grapes from those he exposed, 'cause they liked living in their filthy lives and hiding their dirt from their fans. That's why they tried to make Fred look bad to everyone. But, Proverbs is FULL of wisdom and these very things they were doing were denounced in the book of Proverbs, yet they chose to ignore the warnings and are now paying the price for it. I'll GUARANTEE that if they were allowed ONE DAY to return to life here, they'd be SCREAMING at people to "REPENT! DON'T DO WHAT I DID! IT'S NOT WORTH IT!"
      THIS can be summed up with the Words of Jesus,
      "“There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’ “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’ “ ‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’ ”
      (Luke 16:19‭-‬31 NIV)
      AND the apostle Paul,
      "Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."
      (1 Corinthians 6:9‭-‬10 NIV)

  • @rmkpilates
    @rmkpilates 3 года назад +21

    Politicians and Hollywood have not changed at all....

  • @Cdiddyd
    @Cdiddyd 2 года назад +4

    My late dear friend Fred Otash shared many of these stories in private. Great facts. Thanks for sharing this.

  • @eveyholmes
    @eveyholmes 11 месяцев назад +3

    Fred was my friend for several years. Actually at one time he wanted a more serious relationship leading up to moving in with him as his girlfriend.
    He was a tough guy but nice to me and gave my young son one of his first job at the Hollywood Palidium, which Otash managed for awhile.

  • @jovanweismiller7114
    @jovanweismiller7114 3 года назад +10

    Probably the bit about Lana Turner and the Johnny Stompanato killing. I remember it and I never heard any rumours that Cheryl Crane had not killed him.

  • @holden3
    @holden3 3 года назад +17

    Its amazing ive never heard of him before

    • @rafaelramirez1507
      @rafaelramirez1507 2 года назад +1

      WOW ... not for nothing but I'm young and I've heard of him ... I have done alot of research and found that Otash was pretty credible 👌🏻

  • @AllThePiecesMatter_
    @AllThePiecesMatter_ 2 месяца назад

    I'm currently reading Ellroys The Enchanters, always amazed at how he blends fact, fiction and supposition.

  • @SunShine-qk4rb
    @SunShine-qk4rb 3 года назад +4

    Extremely interesting.thanks.I just wish we could’ve heard the tapes

  • @ninonspeaksshow
    @ninonspeaksshow 2 года назад +1

    I am Ninon de Vere De Rosa and dated and lived with Fred Otash i in Miami Beacn. So many stories. We drove out from Miami Beach to Los Angeles together,

  • @volleybanger2000
    @volleybanger2000 3 года назад +13

    Having read all of James Ellroy’s books, this is extremely interesting. Not only does Ellroy use Otash as a fictional character he also wrote about Otash as a real person in his LA Quartet (The Black Dahlia, the Big Nowhere, LA Confidential and White Jazz).

  • @crystalnewman4238
    @crystalnewman4238 3 года назад +20

    He tried to bring out there secrets. But as usual they just covered it up

  • @diamondgoddess2534
    @diamondgoddess2534 3 года назад +6

    Otash knew it all!

  • @_sunchildd
    @_sunchildd 3 года назад +7

    i need to read the final draft of marilyn kennedy’s and me. we all rly gonna act like it’s a coincidence he died RIGHT when he was finished writing that book????

  • @lila6117
    @lila6117 3 года назад +9

    Sad as it is, he was a busy man.

  • @kathreilly7050
    @kathreilly7050 2 года назад +7

    Marilyn Monroe was treated like a meal to be eaten straight away used and abused rest in peace Marilyn Monroe

  • @58frascatti
    @58frascatti 2 года назад +3

    I knew Fred in Amsterdam in the 80s. He was hanging out with some people I knew there. He told wild stories about many of the people and events in this video. He was very flashy in his L A Olympics silver lamé jacket and chomping endlessly on a stogie. I took him to be a blowhard jerk and it wasn’t until I happened to watch a documentary on Marilyn (he was being interviewed) that I realized some of his tales must have had at least a bit of truth. I recall someone (possibly Elroy) in an interview after Fred died, “He died in typical Fred fashion, having a heart attack while driving himself to a hospital.” the rest of your post seems to square with my memories of Fred, except for the way of his passing. Who knows?

  • @myrnalaboy2840
    @myrnalaboy2840 3 года назад +12

    L. A. Confidential had a character based on the P. I.

    • @FactsVerse
      @FactsVerse  3 года назад +5

      Thanks for sharing this, Myrna!

    • @myrnalaboy2840
      @myrnalaboy2840 3 года назад +1

      @@FactsVerseYou're Welcome

  • @stargatis
    @stargatis 3 года назад +11

    It's sad how much he preyed on those who went to him for help :/
    .....but I'm glad we know a little more now :/ ethically ambiguous, though.

  • @alexwallace6120
    @alexwallace6120 3 года назад +5

    I find his life and career fascinating. The Lana Turner thing I heard her daughter was told to take the blame as she was a juvenile. Yet, all those involved are dead except Cheryl Crane .About Judy Garland I read and heard that she hid the prescription pills everywhere .She was taking those pills since she was a teenager at MGM put on to lose weight. have energy and to sleep .I adore her and her life fascinated me.

    • @FactsVerse
      @FactsVerse  3 года назад +2

      Thanks for watching!

    • @EYE_GOTCHA
      @EYE_GOTCHA 3 месяца назад

      I remember reading that Judy would sew her pills into the hems of her curtains to hide them.

  • @deniseroe5891
    @deniseroe5891 3 года назад +3

    He lived an amazing life. Stuffing drugs in mattresses?!? That’s desperation.

  • @renna912
    @renna912 3 года назад +13

    The mystery continues.. Marilyn Monroe's death will we ever know the truth.. Lana Turner stay away from the bad boys..

    • @dethray1000
      @dethray1000 3 года назад +2

      the mafia guy who killed her said just before he died she was drugged,passed out and then he put a hose up her butt and dropped heavy drugs into her thru the hose

    • @glenturney4750
      @glenturney4750 3 года назад +1

      It REALLY doesn't matter about Marylin Monroe's death, 'cause all those who may have been involved are most likely dead now anyway. The point is, she died young. She was sleeping with married men, ONE of them being the President, who SHOULD'VE been setting a better example, instead of sleeping around on HIS wife,, Jackie, while herself being married to Joe DeMaggio and Arthur Miller. But, Proverbs IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, 'cause it ALSO led to the men's doom.
      "Wisdom will save you also from the adulterous woman, from the wayward woman with her seductive words, who has left the partner of her youth and ignored the covenant she made before God. Surely her house leads down to death and her paths to the spirits of the dead. None who go to her return or attain the paths of life. Thus you will walk in the ways of the good and keep to the paths of the righteous. For the upright will live in the land, and the blameless will remain in it; but the wicked will be cut off from the land, and the unfaithful will be torn from it."
      (Proverbs 2:16‭-‬22 NIV)

    • @aryalogo6624
      @aryalogo6624 3 года назад +2

      @@glenturney4750 so you are blaming Marilyn the victim here????

    • @kingz1063
      @kingz1063 3 года назад +2

      @@aryalogo6624 the blame isn't on her, but she got herself into this big mess, got involved with people she shouldn't have. She knew some secrets and plans of the government, she even tired to black mail the Kenney's, bad move. Its sad what happened to her, and the truth will never truly be revealed. Oh well time keeps going

    • @aryalogo6624
      @aryalogo6624 3 года назад +2

      @@kingz1063 she was most likely under mkultrra

  • @eveyholmes
    @eveyholmes 11 месяцев назад +2

    It's Sid Luft, not Sid Lift, Judy Garland's 3rd husband.

  • @nickymartin4041
    @nickymartin4041 11 месяцев назад

    Good video. Ellroy probably has the files. His newest book, Enchantress, sounds like it probably used information from that unpublished book "Monroe, The Kennedies and Me"

  • @beverlyjordan8957
    @beverlyjordan8957 2 года назад +2

    None surprised me. That’s just Hollywood filth. Great video.

  • @josephshulman7387
    @josephshulman7387 3 года назад +10

    He had an interesting life . But how could he be the inspiration for the detective in China Town , wasn't that set in the 30 s or even the 20 s ?

  • @peterm1826
    @peterm1826 3 года назад +3

    I’m currently reading his book Freddy otash widespread panic he mentions several three ways with actresses joi Lansing and Liz Taylor
    And his friendship with James Dean as for Larna turner she stabbed her boy friend while he was asleep next to her daughter then called Fred otash he dressed the body and put it on the floor and put knife back into the wound

  • @_sunchildd
    @_sunchildd 3 года назад +8

    forever wishing marilyn would get the justice she deserves 😕 pretty much everyone who was involved back then is dead anyways. why keep up with the lie any longer?

  • @trotterhorsewatsonjr.6668
    @trotterhorsewatsonjr.6668 3 года назад +9

    None of these stories surprised me ever! I'm 66 and i knew as a kid of Hudsons gay tendencies!

    • @EYE_GOTCHA
      @EYE_GOTCHA 3 месяца назад

      I only knew because a woman who owned an antiques shop in Seal Beach when I lived there (late 70's) told me that Rock shopped in her store and that he was gay. I was from a small New England town and was very naive back then. 😃

  • @63mckenzie
    @63mckenzie 2 года назад +2

    Ironic that a lot of the best Hollywood stories were off camera.

  • @hankfacer7098
    @hankfacer7098 3 года назад +6

    Nothing surprises me anymore

  • @poohbearsauntie
    @poohbearsauntie 3 года назад +6

    Good One!!

  • @caraqueno
    @caraqueno 3 года назад +13

    Good video, Tim, but, please, use the word "starlet" in it's correct usage. Bette Davis, by the time she hired Fred Otash to spy on Gary Merrill, was a star, not starlet. A starlet was an actress placed under contract by a studio in order to develop her into a star. Sometimes, the starlet would become a star by scoring big with audiences in several films before she would be given roles, in which she now starred (headlined). If a starlet did not score big with audiences, the studio contracting her would end her contract and her film career would, often, go nowhere. Bette Davis, in the 1950's, was a STAR, not a starlet.
    By the way, Judy Garland's ex-husband was Sid LUFT, not Sid LIFT.

    • @Bigbadwhitecracker
      @Bigbadwhitecracker 2 года назад

      You mean their children aren't Lorna Lift and Joey Lift?🍭

    • @LoveandButter
      @LoveandButter 6 месяцев назад

      And Luft is not Lift. Lorna's dad.

  • @browningautomatic2393
    @browningautomatic2393 3 года назад +9

    good show !

    • @FactsVerse
      @FactsVerse  3 года назад +2

      Thanks for watching, browning automatic!

  • @kingstonagainstcorruption2268
    @kingstonagainstcorruption2268 2 года назад +2

    Fred Otash died knowing a lot of secrets!

  • @stevenjones4990
    @stevenjones4990 3 года назад +4

    It was P. I.s like him that made all of us look bad to the world. In my 35 years, I don't know how many people came to me and tried to hire me to brake the law, and when I would tell them that I would not take their case, most of them would say something like, 'Well, don't all private investigators brake the law?" I have to admit, I lost a lot of money turning them down, but I felt better about myself for doing so.

    • @FactsVerse
      @FactsVerse  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching, Steven!

    • @suzycreamcheesez4371
      @suzycreamcheesez4371 2 года назад +2

      break Unless you mean something to stop a car.

    • @Jenn_80
      @Jenn_80 2 года назад

      Well, Steven, considering you don't seem to know the difference between "break" and "brake" I find it completely unbelievable that you were any kind of PI.

  • @lauratrommer811
    @lauratrommer811 3 года назад +2

    A cover up involves hiding a illegality or crime. Attempting to keep personal and utterly private matters secret is merely human and within anyone's rights

  • @NLnaLovesU86
    @NLnaLovesU86 3 года назад +6

    He did nothing to save Marilyn Monroe ! Very shady, not surprised how he died of a heart attack. Pretty cold blooded detective if you ask me. How are you going to listen to someone dying and NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT ! What a shame ! Poor Marilyn she was such a bright smart lady she deserved better, hope she has a beautiful throne in heaven with plenty of loving light 💗🌞 Ladies reminder your life matters, LOVE MATTERS (U 1st) ♾😇🙏💗🌞😘

    • @FactsVerse
      @FactsVerse  3 года назад +1

      We agree, NLnaLovesU86!

    • @rafaelramirez1507
      @rafaelramirez1507 2 года назад +2

      He probably heard it later on on the recorder , then again who's going to mess around with the mafia 🤔

  • @mikejohnson9194
    @mikejohnson9194 2 года назад +2

    Fred Otash was protected

  • @brianpavlina8638
    @brianpavlina8638 Год назад

    Hearing how Marilyn Monroe truly came to her end really saddens me. Bobby’s got blood on his ends. JFK & RFK treated her like crap. I used to feel sympathy for their assassinations. Now, not so much. Karma eventually catches up to you, no matter who you are.

  • @johnnywires943
    @johnnywires943 2 года назад +3

    I wonder what today's celebrities are hiding.

  • @yaronkl
    @yaronkl 2 года назад

    wow. I think you should have mentioned Bernard Spindel as well

  • @kenpope5798
    @kenpope5798 3 года назад +3

    Very interesting

  • @rafaelramirez1507
    @rafaelramirez1507 2 года назад +1

    You know something folks it's weird cuz the more in the future you go the more you find out the truth

  • @feliciajenkins5041
    @feliciajenkins5041 3 года назад

    He is why celebrities go off and sue.

  • @rebeccalerch3134
    @rebeccalerch3134 3 года назад +2

    Some of the things happening here I remember that the Kennedys was involved with Marilyn Monroe only one I remember really sad people are still dying a day. What you put out will return to you and your love ones

    • @patriciacolombini6567
      @patriciacolombini6567 3 года назад

      Hollywood mAde Marilyn a sex symbol. Sex sells.

    • @rebeccalerch3134
      @rebeccalerch3134 3 года назад

      @@patriciacolombini6567 sexual assault on rides in the the world. If only a person can see the Spiritual spirit in earth. Spiritual activity is everywhere around everyone it’s become common I really don’t pay intention have a blessed day

  • @shirleyrose9566
    @shirleyrose9566 3 года назад +2

    What we think, we become the same reason you’re watching, or how would you know unless you’re watching it too.

  • @johnjepsen500
    @johnjepsen500 2 года назад

    Doping of a horse? SHOCKING!

  • @Bigbadwhitecracker
    @Bigbadwhitecracker 2 года назад +1

    Never heard of this guy before this video. Sounds like they got to him finally at the end. He probably always knew he would die somewhat suspiciously.

  • @eliasmd2003able
    @eliasmd2003able 2 года назад +1

    Reason being why you shouldn't trust those who investigate themselves.

  • @roberthenleynola
    @roberthenleynola 2 года назад

    Judy Garland's third husband was not named Sid LIFT ... it was Sid LUFT.

  • @radioqueenbee7008
    @radioqueenbee7008 3 года назад +1

    Judy's husband was Sid Luft, not Lift.

    • @FactsVerse
      @FactsVerse  3 года назад

      Thanks for letting us know

  • @Joshua4658
    @Joshua4658 3 года назад +1

    How in the hell are you a private investigator in that whip 🤦‍♂️

    • @glenturney4750
      @glenturney4750 3 года назад +1

      He inspected people's private privates. 🤮🤮🤮

  • @rockymontero1162
    @rockymontero1162 3 года назад +1

    Judy's ex-husband was Sid LUFT. Not LIFT!

  • @epickup08
    @epickup08 3 года назад +1

    At first I thought it was Raymond Burr.

    • @FactsVerse
      @FactsVerse  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching, Guinea Pig!

  • @frankwilson4717
    @frankwilson4717 3 года назад +1

    Yeah. I think you mean, they bought the evidence from him.

  • @kathleengenieve3804
    @kathleengenieve3804 3 года назад +1

    Mispronounced Judy Garland's ex-husband's last name his name was pronounced Sid (that you got right) last name is LUFT Not Lift The LU in Luft is pronounced LA then the FT it's one word I'm trying to help you with breaking it down into syllables but really it needs to be run together let's just say it's not like lift like you give somebody a lift in your car and that's how you're pronouncing his last name. My degree is in English literature and part of the curriculum I teach is linguistics.
    I like your presentations very much to answer the question you threw out to your listening audience what surprised me the most. I can't say it surprised me but I always wondered how they got Rock Hudson off the hook because they were going in for the kill to expose him. Should have known LA confidential was given an alternate they threw them a proverbial bone, and that bone's name was Tab Hunter. Keep your exposes coming they're very interesting.

  • @carinrobinson
    @carinrobinson Год назад

    who was his attorney?

  • @AC-ze1nh
    @AC-ze1nh 2 года назад +3

    I think the Kennedys were very cruel to Marilyn and it contributed to her death. I don't believe they killed her but rather contributed to her mental anguish and she took her own life.

  • @andreaswank3524
    @andreaswank3524 3 года назад +7

    I think he was killed.

    • @FactsVerse
      @FactsVerse  3 года назад +1

      Why do you think so, Andrea?

    • @andreaswank3524
      @andreaswank3524 3 года назад +6

      @@FactsVerse The book was going to expose the Kennedys and more. It just seems obvious.

  • @EYE_GOTCHA
    @EYE_GOTCHA 3 месяца назад

    5:24 It's Sid LUFT, not Sid Lift. 😩😩

    • @FactsVerse
      @FactsVerse  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for the correction! We'll check the video.

  • @maireadajisola
    @maireadajisola 3 года назад

    Sounds like Monroe was smothered to death

  • @theresamidenberg5202
    @theresamidenberg5202 3 года назад +3

    Wow Lana Turner alleged murder of her mafia boyfriend that really surprised me...and her daughter taking the blame, WOW😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

    • @edwinahughes9052
      @edwinahughes9052 3 года назад +1

      Surprised! I read about this decades ago. You must be young.

  • @ronaldmiller2740
    @ronaldmiller2740 2 года назад +1

    WOW WHAT A MESSED UP TIME THAT WAS !!!!!!!MARILYN MONROE AND JFK DID THERE OWN SELF IN ,,THEY DESERVED BOTH OF THEM SELF PLAYING AROUND M.M. THOUGHT SHE COULD BE THE NEXT JFK WIFE COME ON!!! AND KENNEDY BRO. PLAYING AROUND GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED.. DRAMA !!!!!

  • @ronaldschultenover8137
    @ronaldschultenover8137 3 месяца назад

    Hard to believe anyone ever cared

  • @greatfilmmaker
    @greatfilmmaker 2 года назад +2

    This is a movie

  • @retalbtaylor370
    @retalbtaylor370 3 года назад

    Sid Luft, not Sid Lift!

  • @merrybethlewis5336
    @merrybethlewis5336 3 года назад +2

    Interesting stuff but people are just human after all!

  • @Bigbadwhitecracker
    @Bigbadwhitecracker 2 года назад

    Sid LUFT.

  • @kathleenmckeithen118
    @kathleenmckeithen118 2 года назад

    Sid Luft not Lift

  • @cindyellis765
    @cindyellis765 3 года назад +1

    It’s a reprehensible way to make money

    • @CashelOConnolly
      @CashelOConnolly 3 года назад +2

      So why are you watching a gossip channel?

  • @dylanbrazelton267
    @dylanbrazelton267 3 года назад +1

    Hi

  • @Angellady11
    @Angellady11 3 года назад +1

    This private investigator was a crook and was only friendly if you paid him to be
    He was also bisexual

  • @maryallison0509
    @maryallison0509 2 года назад

    It’s Luft (pronounced La-ft) not Lift sorry but that’s my main problem with these channels. Learn the actual correct pronunciation. It’s not difficult or complicated.

  • @johnsavage6628
    @johnsavage6628 3 года назад +1

    If Marilyn had been smart she would have stayed home and not been a party girl.

  • @janisallen7386
    @janisallen7386 2 года назад

    Old news

  • @patrickhicks9880
    @patrickhicks9880 3 года назад

    i'm only interested in the marilyn bits all that gay stuff feels like something from the dark ages

  • @annmarienuccio2349
    @annmarienuccio2349 2 года назад

    Bull Shi$ on the Monroe incident!

  • @jessicabelin2887
    @jessicabelin2887 3 года назад

    Ong hii

  • @glenturney4750
    @glenturney4750 3 года назад +2

    Don't forget! When people feel "SHAMED", that's SUPPOSED to bring REPENTANCE, which is ACTUALLY a GOOD thing, not bad. Exposing their dirty laundry SHOULD'VE caused them to repent and straighten up, not make them become proud to live in shame and rebel against God. When people choose to live outside of their consciences, they don't tend to live very long afterward. There's a reason for this. It's addressed in the Holy Bible. If it has no connections to it, then why are the cemeteries FULL of people who didn't live very long, compared to those who choose a Godly life? If people have a death wish, then GO CRAZY! Just remember when the doctors say, "You don't have much longer to live", that the PRE-warnings are in plain sight.

    • @bellasmom2597
      @bellasmom2597 3 года назад

      It isn't the place of humans to judge one another on their godliness. Assuming you have the right over God is blasphemy.

    • @jimosborne2
      @jimosborne2 2 года назад

      Didn’t Jesus teach let he who is without sin cast the first stone? And judge not lest ye be judged? Seems like you are not quite the exemplary Christian you claim to be.

  • @larsgsanger3105
    @larsgsanger3105 3 года назад

    He was a man! Marilyn that is! Wake up!!!

  • @jaylenwilliams2624
    @jaylenwilliams2624 3 года назад

    First

    • @johna.4334
      @johna.4334 3 года назад +2

      No one cares -get a life!

    • @michaelvogel261
      @michaelvogel261 2 года назад

      This guy was totally Amoral & would do anything for a buck. He was a sociopath who would sell anyone out for the right price. He ruined many lives! Nothing good to say about him as far as I am concerned. Like Jake Gittes, he had no morals.

  • @sexyfatbastid
    @sexyfatbastid 2 года назад

    Which incident surprised ME the most ??!
    That Liberace was gay.
    Next you're gonna tell me Richard Simmons is gay.