I'd like to commend Lewis for his in depth analysis. He's grown with each video and provided a lot of information such as recommending a sub, discussing the music he used and how the speaker sounded with each piece. Usually his cmments are very brief and he gives little or no supporting information for his opinion. Great job.
Well, I will have to agree you are "Audio Excellence" for doing a cool fundraiser and putting together playlists. Then going the extra step to match what is raised. Hope your business is doing well, and you continue giving customers an experience few get to enjoy, but everyone can appreciate for many more years!
Don't doubt they are fine sounding speakers but the pricing? There's a well known Canadian company that produces isolation stands that are widely used in recording studios and have been integrated in home speakers such as PSB - the prices are nowhere near what Wilson is charging.
I bought a pair~. I tried many offer from spendor dynaudio focal atc. I cant have floorstanders, im running them with naim sn3 and ndx2 along with rel sub. Its a very long term system investment in enjoyment for me. Ive had them for about 4 months in a smaller family room, and they sound better all the time. I have no regrets whatsoever. I have had bowers and revels, and these blow rhem away. These are not just nearfield monitors.
@@sarahX.. hi sarah. yes i have actually, i demoed my naim equipment wth the tunetots, the heritage specials , some spendorsand i liked them very much, i would be happy with them, but the tunetots are just a step above in giving air, dimensionality and musical realness, and are a little easier to place. I felt like the wilsons justified the price difference.
Please try some Borresen bookshelf speakers. The lower tier versions are in the same price range as the Tune Tots. The upper tier are considerably higher in price.
I use the TuneTots on the desk in my den to watch cat videos on RUclips and listen to my fave singers, DJ Dead Mouse Five and Justin Beibers. I fill out the bass with 4 (four) Wilson Audio Thor's Hammer™ subs. (one in each corner to give the Tots a little lower end kick) I like them!
Could these speakers be utilized in a mid to large-sized room with high ceilings for those customers who don’t have a dedicated listening space? If so, how do you think they stack up against other bookshelf speakers for this application (e.g. 805D4’s, Magico A1’s, KEF Reference 1’s)?
This review is particularly interesting as I recently auditioned Tube Tots with the MA12000, and was very impressed extremely smooth and non fatiguing. I had the meters nearly pegged and wanted more. May have been the speaker tap issue. My question is how much do you think was the MAC vs. the Wilson’s? The system had plenty of bass for me, but I currently listen to Magnepans, so again maybe the MAC.
Obviously, they're high quality. But a ruthless tell all comparo between these up against budget offerings like the two-ways from CSS (Creative Sound Solutions), or even Danny Richie's flagship two-ways... both being around $1k. Quality drivers, the finest crossover components... packaged into a nice two-way. At 15x the price, I'd seriously like to understand what difference ... if any, exists.
With due respect I can point out at least 3 other standmounts that will beat the Wilson speakers. 1) Jern 35 2) Manger Z1 3) Lyravox Karlsson ( active only)
Great video guys and very interesting haven't heard much about these small Wilson offerings. I'm lucky enough to own a set of Wilson Alexia's these days. I've owned watt puppy 7's and sashes before the Alexia. So it's safe to say I am a bit of a Wilson fanboy. I love the channel and I really enjoyed this episode, because I've learnt something about these speakers. I'm now looking forward to 1 day being able to have a listen to them with your critique in mind. Keep up the great work Adrian and the Gang I'm already looking forward to the next video.🎧🙂👍
Very refined, great soundstage, mids highs, I added an rel sub the 700$ one and they are dynamite. Sabrina x too big. Running naim sn3 and ndx2 these are really magical. The ney sayers clearly have not listened to them. I listened to bowers 805s dynaudio heritage and liked them both very much. These were more transparent and lifelike.
Okay follow up question, if I play “The Lollipop Guild” from The Wizard of Oz (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) on big boy speakers, does it make those munchkins sound more like full grown adults? 😬😂🤣
Time alignment bullshit. How about we se polar pattern. Small speakers these days cost like great big full range speaker 15 years ago, like Thiel speakers.
The Tunetots speakers need a subwoofer. Not only does it fill in the bottom end, it transforms the presentation of the whole frequency range. I really wanted to love and keep these speakers, swapping out DACs and amps trying to achieve my desired sound, ultimately there was something sterile about them, so I moved on and am happy now.
Sterile comes from the amp and upstream equipment. There’s nothing sterile about these speakers. I can tell you that with my Nagra DAC and Kondo Japan amp, they’re not sterile! And no sub.
@@henriksrensen3220 expensive don’t equate to best. Heard the borresen speakers at the last hifi show here just before covid & i just couldn’t enjoy them at all. Could be the setup or the less than ideal hifi show conditions. Had another listen to them in the showroom after the show & still found them underwhelming.
We had the TAD micro as demos for over 3 years. Pretty good but I prefer the Tune Tots. Also the TAD doesn't sound right if you have to put them in tight locations
@David O Well, "It's a PROFIT organization" [Wilson Audio], so there's that. :-P Yes, IsoAcoustics, which are available and configurable for a wide range of sizes and are generally under $250 even for their top-range products. I've DIY'd over 20 different home audio and studio monitor speakers over the years and built a pair nearly identical to the Wilson Audio TuneTots using the same high-quality Scan-Speak Revelator midwoofer and tweeter drivers, with very solidly braced HDF cabinets finished in 1/4" solid walnut, and high-end crossover components. IIRC, all-in, they cost me about $2200 in parts and materials, and roughly a week of my time. Of course, you need to have the tools and workspace to do this, so it's not for everyone. So if you want a pair of amazing "Plug & Play" bookshelf speakers that also have a multitude of built-in settings to accommodate any type of placement you require, look into the new Neumann KH150 active studio monitors. $3,500 USD for the pair. IMHO, they easily outclass the Wilsons. You don't even need a separate amplifier to power the KH150, as they have separate built-in amplifiers for each midwoofer (145w) and each tweeter (100w). They also have built-in soft limiters designed specifically for each driver so you cannot drive them into distortion (like Adrian did here!), or overpower them and potentially damage the drivers. The enclosures or cabinets are incredibly dense and non-resonant, combining a high-quality aerospace polycarbonate with a wood sleeve for damping. And the Neumann KH150 dig down MUCH lower in frequency than the Wilsons! I use their smaller brother, the KH120A, in my home studio, and even they reach much lower in frequency using just 5.25" midwoofers. And the specs that Neumann provide are legit. The Neumann's have incredible resolution, clarity, and an immense 3D soundstage with pinpoint imaging and a very respectable output capability of 118dB @ 1m (for one speaker). The integrated waveguides give them an incredibly wide sweet spot that helps when you have less than ideal placement for the speakers in your room. I'm a musician (saxaphone & drums/percussion) and have had a home recording studio for over 12 years. When Adrian talks about the "smoothness" of the Wilson Tune Tots, that is 90% a function of Frequency Response, and I can tailor the EQ in my DAW or plug-ins so that these Neumanns sound like the Tune Tots, Sonus Farber, Focal, etc. It is literally just a matter of shaping the Frequency Response with EQ to the Sonic Characteristics of each "house sound". Unfortunately, you can't get the Neumann KH150 in all of the different colors and finishes of the Wilson's, but having heard the real Tune Tots and then building a nearly identical DIY pair, the Neumann's outperform them for less than Half the Price and are infinitely more adaptable and configurable to any room and placement, and have much better low-frequency extension as well. If you don't know who Neumann is, for well over 50 years they have built the high-end studio microphones that have recorded 90% of the best vocals on the "audiophile" recordings that you listen to. Look into the Neumann U47, U67, U87, M49, M149, etc as a start. And from a technology perspective, a loudspeaker drive unit is the inverse of a microphone capsule.
@@davido4872 The upper tier Genelec active monitors are excellent as well. Just not my cup o' tea. Al Schmitt described why he didn't care for them and why he couldn't mix on them, and after hearing them I somewhat agree on a few his points, but they still seemed good to me. But he's the one who had 23 Grammys, so there's that, LOL.
@@ibz925 LOL, no I don't work for Neumann. I just use their studio monitors and several of their mics in my home studio (I play sax and drums/percussion).
All the Wilson naysayers should check out the video from ABSOLUTE SOUND with michael fermers tour of the wilson audio factory. Special people making special products.
10 thousand dollars for two small boxes with three hundred dollars worth electronics in them. Toyota should stop making cars and start making speakers. The profit margin is much, much nicer here.
It is unlikely that they are getting rich. Their volume in these is likely very low. They could be built at a better price, but what you are paying for is extended effort by a genius and his team. If you find a $300 kit that sound as good as these, I'm ordering it immediately.
I’m a huge fan of Wilson but I heard these with Parasound/Lumin and they were a complete fail. Immediately noticeable was the complete lack of bass, they absolutely need a serious subwoofer. The dealer told me they are primarily for desktop/computer audio…for $10K+? Seriously, a crappy set of KEF LS50’s blow these away….ridiculous.
Great review! Does anyone think Tune Tots with two Loki as good as Sasha?
How do they compare to the Acora book shelf
I'd like to commend Lewis for his in depth analysis. He's grown with each video and provided a lot of information such as recommending a sub, discussing the music he used and how the speaker sounded with each piece. Usually his cmments are very brief and he gives little or no supporting information for his opinion. Great job.
TuneTot-$9,800.00 (pair)
Well, I will have to agree you are "Audio Excellence" for doing a cool fundraiser and putting together playlists. Then going the extra step to match what is raised. Hope your business is doing well, and you continue giving customers an experience few get to enjoy, but everyone can appreciate for many more years!
Owning a pair of TuneTot's would be fun. Now only if I could hit the Powerball! 😃
You could always do diy and get a pair with better drivers for 2k.
But how does Rush sound on them?
With a sub it sounds freaking awesome
5000 for a stand & iso base ! There are many other choice ? Also a very narrow sweet spot?
Are there green Tunetot speakers?
Dutch & Dutch 8C - Kii Audio ? Active Kef LS50 ?
Yes, but those first two are much larger speakers. For this application I would go for the active Neumann KH150.
and how would these compare to others with the same driver / cabinet size? =)
Because you didn't do an unboxing video why not film putting them back in the box then play that video backwards?
Focal Diablo Utopia?
Don't doubt they are fine sounding speakers but the pricing? There's a well known Canadian company that produces isolation stands that are widely used in recording studios and have been integrated in home speakers such as PSB - the prices are nowhere near what Wilson is charging.
What’s the name of the company? Thanks
@@TombstoneTube I believe it's isoacoustics
Yeah they are totally overpriced for what they are plus when they were measured by several sources, they were quite bad!
Great video and great cause. It’s also nice to have an uninterrupted, calm viewing experience😅
😮 ...easy there Simba
If a added good subwoofer make them more equal to full range , it should take the strain off midrange right
Why are the TuneTots supposed to be better than Wilson Audios own Duette bookshelf speakers?
"25 is good power"
3min later : "so we did use a 450w power amplifier"...
"you need at least 25 Watts of good power....". They just did that 😊
This was a great review. Many thanks. In the future I would love to hear your team review the PS Audio FR30s. Any chance of that happening soon?
I bought a pair~. I tried many offer from spendor dynaudio focal atc. I cant have floorstanders, im running them with naim sn3 and ndx2 along with rel sub. Its a very long term system investment in enjoyment for me. Ive had them for about 4 months in a smaller family room, and they sound better all the time. I have no regrets whatsoever. I have had bowers and revels, and these blow rhem away. These are not just nearfield monitors.
One of my favourite small speakers is the Dynaudio Heritage special.
Have you heard how the Wilson compare to this Dyn by any chance?
They look amazing. Congrats.
@@sarahX.. hi sarah. yes i have actually, i demoed my naim equipment wth the tunetots, the heritage specials , some spendorsand i liked them very much, i would be happy with them, but the tunetots are just a step above in giving air, dimensionality and musical realness, and are a little easier to place. I felt like the wilsons justified the price difference.
Please try some Borresen bookshelf speakers. The lower tier versions are in the same price range as the Tune Tots. The upper tier are considerably higher in price.
Curious if you have any impressions of how these speakers sounded on the MA8950? Thank you
How do they compare to the Sonus Faber Olympica Nova I?
The sonos faber are $3500 cheaper.
@@winstonwolff price don't matter much
And how about the Guarneri Tradition?
@@1JRW1 The best standmount speakers in the world are Borresen M1
@@henriksrensen3220
Sure, but there is just a SMALL difference in price. ;-)
Better than background... I hope so at $15k+.
I use the TuneTots on the desk in my den to watch cat videos on RUclips and listen to my fave singers, DJ Dead Mouse Five and Justin Beibers.
I fill out the bass with 4 (four) Wilson Audio Thor's Hammer™ subs. (one in each corner to give the Tots a little lower end kick)
I like them!
😂👍
What?
These do seem like speakers a cat could love 😅
The stands will buy you a very nice pair of floorstanding speakers lol
Could these speakers be utilized in a mid to large-sized room with high ceilings for those customers who don’t have a dedicated listening space? If so, how do you think they stack up against other bookshelf speakers for this application (e.g. 805D4’s, Magico A1’s, KEF Reference 1’s)?
Yes they should work
@@adrianlow2114 Thank you! Will try to audition them at a store that will let me hook up my amp to them.
For the price of a ducati I can have a pair of bookshelf speakers and stands. Sounds like a bargain 🙄
What if I already have a Ducati ?
Your right I should buy another Ducati so we can ride together.
Who said these were supposed to be a bargain? 😂
If you like speakers more than you like motorcycles, then it's a steal 👍
Them or the TAD ME-1's
Aren't you a Canadian store? What about the people on the east coast? Some still have no power
Great point! Thanks for reminding me. We will support them also. Thanks again
I heard a pair, I was impressed to say the least.
This review is particularly interesting as I recently auditioned Tube Tots with the MA12000, and was very impressed extremely smooth and non fatiguing. I had the meters nearly pegged and wanted more. May have been the speaker tap issue. My question is how much do you think was the MAC vs. the Wilson’s? The system had plenty of bass for me, but I currently listen to Magnepans, so again maybe the MAC.
TuneTot-$9,800.00 (pair)
Obviously, they're high quality.
But a ruthless tell all comparo between these up against budget offerings like the two-ways from CSS (Creative Sound Solutions), or even Danny Richie's flagship two-ways... both being around $1k.
Quality drivers, the finest crossover components... packaged into a nice two-way.
At 15x the price, I'd seriously like to understand what difference ... if any, exists.
With due respect I can point out at least 3 other standmounts that will beat the Wilson speakers.
1) Jern 35
2) Manger Z1
3) Lyravox Karlsson ( active only)
Never heard of them. Available at Walmart?
@@Ineedtotakeabreak never heard of Walmart.
Haha. Jern and Manger They might sound as good but you cannot find them in the US.
Is there a video on the lrs+ and how it works. What ever videos I saw were a waste of time
Not yet as we have not received our shipment
How are they at low volumes? Downsizing presumably means having neighbors on the other side of the wall.
Great review, thank you!
Sound better with the Loke👍
Great video guys and very interesting haven't heard much about these small Wilson offerings. I'm lucky enough to own a set of Wilson Alexia's these days. I've owned watt puppy 7's and sashes before the Alexia. So it's safe to say I am a bit of a Wilson fanboy.
I love the channel and I really enjoyed this episode, because I've learnt something about these speakers. I'm now looking forward to 1 day being able to have a listen to them with your critique in mind. Keep up the great work Adrian and the Gang I'm already looking forward to the next video.🎧🙂👍
TuneTot-$9,800.00 (pair)
Very refined, great soundstage, mids highs, I added an rel sub the 700$ one and they are dynamite. Sabrina x too big. Running naim sn3 and ndx2 these are really magical. The ney sayers clearly have not listened to them. I listened to bowers 805s dynaudio heritage and liked them both very much. These were more transparent and lifelike.
Buy a pair of magnapan lrs instead
Lol Adrienne, you got me with “sense of little munchkins singing for you” 👍🏻👍🏻
haha
Okay follow up question, if I play “The Lollipop Guild” from The Wizard of Oz (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) on big boy speakers, does it make those munchkins sound more like full grown adults? 😬😂🤣
Don’t you think the listeners can do the conversion to cm , in support of brevity.
probally paradigm persona b and sonus faber guarnieri tradition are even better
Time alignment bullshit. How about we se polar pattern.
Small speakers these days cost like great big full range speaker 15 years ago, like Thiel speakers.
The Tunetots speakers need a subwoofer. Not only does it fill in the bottom end, it transforms the presentation of the whole frequency range. I really wanted to love and keep these speakers, swapping out DACs and amps trying to achieve my desired sound, ultimately there was something sterile about them, so I moved on and am happy now.
What did you replace them with?
Sterile comes from the amp and upstream equipment. There’s nothing sterile about these speakers. I can tell you that with my Nagra DAC and Kondo Japan amp, they’re not sterile! And no sub.
@@Fluterra I didn't think so either until I swapped them out.
@@volpedo2000 YG Carmel 1
Lost me at $9,900.
Ever heard of TAD ? I mean if you would this video would have another title 😂
Audiovector R1 arrete is better at 6500$
The best standmount speakers in the world are Borresen M1 (100.000$)
@@henriksrensen3220 expensive don’t equate to best. Heard the borresen speakers at the last hifi show here just before covid & i just couldn’t enjoy them at all. Could be the setup or the less than ideal hifi show conditions. Had another listen to them in the showroom after the show & still found them underwhelming.
@@ganck1147 you have not listened to the m1
We had the TAD micro as demos for over 3 years. Pretty good but I prefer the Tune Tots. Also the TAD doesn't sound right if you have to put them in tight locations
NO absolutely not, the Audiovector r1 arreté is a better speaker at 6500$
The best standmount speakers in the world are the Borresen M1.
I listened to the audiovectors, I passed on them although very
Good, the wilsons just sounded more natural and real. To my ears
The Borresen's better be at 100,000 USD a pair!
For that money, they'd better be the best.
Soon as I saw the price...not interested...rip off, I don't care how good they sound...
Adam Ben Ezra plays bass, not cello. 😉
@David O
Well, "It's a PROFIT organization" [Wilson Audio], so there's that. :-P
Yes, IsoAcoustics, which are available and configurable for a wide range of sizes and are generally under $250 even for their top-range products.
I've DIY'd over 20 different home audio and studio monitor speakers over the years and built a pair nearly identical to the Wilson Audio TuneTots using the same high-quality Scan-Speak Revelator midwoofer and tweeter drivers, with very solidly braced HDF cabinets finished in 1/4" solid walnut, and high-end crossover components.
IIRC, all-in, they cost me about $2200 in parts and materials, and roughly a week of my time. Of course, you need to have the tools and workspace to do this, so it's not for everyone.
So if you want a pair of amazing "Plug & Play" bookshelf speakers that also have a multitude of built-in settings to accommodate any type of placement you require, look into the new Neumann KH150 active studio monitors. $3,500 USD for the pair. IMHO, they easily outclass the Wilsons.
You don't even need a separate amplifier to power the KH150, as they have separate built-in amplifiers for each midwoofer (145w) and each tweeter (100w).
They also have built-in soft limiters designed specifically for each driver so you cannot drive them into distortion (like Adrian did here!), or overpower them and potentially damage the drivers.
The enclosures or cabinets are incredibly dense and non-resonant, combining a high-quality aerospace polycarbonate with a wood sleeve for damping.
And the Neumann KH150 dig down MUCH lower in frequency than the Wilsons! I use their smaller brother, the KH120A, in my home studio, and even they reach much lower in frequency using just 5.25" midwoofers. And the specs that Neumann provide are legit.
The Neumann's have incredible resolution, clarity, and an immense 3D soundstage with pinpoint imaging and a very respectable output capability of 118dB @ 1m (for one speaker). The integrated waveguides give them an incredibly wide sweet spot that helps when you have less than ideal placement for the speakers in your room.
I'm a musician (saxaphone & drums/percussion) and have had a home recording studio for over 12 years. When Adrian talks about the "smoothness" of the Wilson Tune Tots, that is 90% a function of Frequency Response, and I can tailor the EQ in my DAW or plug-ins so that these Neumanns sound like the Tune Tots, Sonus Farber, Focal, etc. It is literally just a matter of shaping the Frequency Response with EQ to the Sonic Characteristics of each "house sound".
Unfortunately, you can't get the Neumann KH150 in all of the different colors and finishes of the Wilson's, but having heard the real Tune Tots and then building a nearly identical DIY pair, the Neumann's outperform them for less than Half the Price and are infinitely more adaptable and configurable to any room and placement, and have much better low-frequency extension as well.
If you don't know who Neumann is, for well over 50 years they have built the high-end studio microphones that have recorded 90% of the best vocals on the "audiophile" recordings that you listen to. Look into the Neumann U47, U67, U87, M49, M149, etc as a start. And from a technology perspective, a loudspeaker drive unit is the inverse of a microphone capsule.
Interesting. I always thought that I would consider Genelec in the event that I am able to accommodate active speakers in the future.
Do you work for Neuman?
@@davido4872
The upper tier Genelec active monitors are excellent as well. Just not my cup o' tea. Al Schmitt described why he didn't care for them and why he couldn't mix on them, and after hearing them I somewhat agree on a few his points, but they still seemed good to me. But he's the one who had 23 Grammys, so there's that, LOL.
@@ibz925
LOL, no I don't work for Neumann. I just use their studio monitors and several of their mics in my home studio (I play sax and drums/percussion).
All the Wilson naysayers should check out the video from ABSOLUTE SOUND with michael fermers tour of the wilson audio factory. Special people making special products.
10 thousand dollars for two small boxes with three hundred dollars worth electronics in them. Toyota should stop making cars and start making speakers. The profit margin is much, much nicer here.
It is unlikely that they are getting rich. Their volume in these is likely very low.
They could be built at a better price, but what you are paying for is extended effort by a genius and his team.
If you find a $300 kit that sound as good as these, I'm ordering it immediately.
No bass
all I can say is ....... WTF? $15k?, and you might need a sub?
They are 9800 in the us. The stands are 2k. And they are very refined.
What amazes me most about Wilson audio, is their lack of aestheticism...it forces me to believe rich people have no taste...
Go see how and why they are made that way at a factory review
Let me understand, this dude works here? lol!
Canadians helping people in Florida.... Americans never do that for Canadians... never
Looks ugly as hell! Who even buys that?
I did. They are awesome
I’m a huge fan of Wilson but I heard these with Parasound/Lumin and they were a complete fail. Immediately noticeable was the complete lack of bass, they absolutely need a serious subwoofer. The dealer told me they are primarily for desktop/computer audio…for $10K+? Seriously, a crappy set of KEF LS50’s blow these away….ridiculous.
Million dollar system in your living room and beg me on fixed income for money wow really
It's just an opportunity for people to give to a worthy cause. Why are you triggered by that?