How To Prevent Spiraling During A Setback
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I just had my first setback today. It was very intense. I still believe I can do this.
How are you now
Having one of the worst days ever had, didn't want to get up and that's not me, thank god for my dog
i think today is my worst day too, i hope we all get well!🙏 God pray us🙏❤️
@@ciochimusic we will get better
This has been one of my worst days for quite awhile. Zaps of intense anxiety, but sometimes they are fleeting, so that's good. Trying to remind myself to not get discouraged, that it's a non-linear journey, etc. Then noticed an email from Shaan and ended up here. Feeling much mellower right now. (Thanks, Shaan!) Sometimes it's just good to get some validation and know you're not alone. - Give your dog a big hug! Lately, I notice I'm envying people with dogs. ;-)
Stay consistent, you don’t need to fix this. Keep going on with your day. Float through and let time pass. You got this.
its not so complicated guys , but its hard to do ofc. Just dont add second fear = worry , whatever happens with your symptoms thoughts etc, dont add worry
So hard in the face of fear :(
Yes! Habits are tricksters! They create mental grooves that can catch at random times. I've been experiencing weird intrusive thoughts that I haven't struggled with for years which makes it feel that much more intense. I just keep reminding myself that I have a very creative mind and that these habitual thinking patterns are just something I've invented. There is no authority "outside" myself telling me these things, so I dont have to believe these disturbing thoughts. It helps me to shift my focus and let these thoughts float away easier.
Sad, that these cursed thoughts can come back even after years :(
How do you know then you have recovered? If they can come back at any time once you have "learned" to think or believe them even once ? What is recovery i dont understand
@vinylg3421 I think it's part of the whole acceptance thing. When the fear of it coming back no longer matters because you know if it does, you'll know how to deal with it, then I think you can call that recovery. Everyone gets anxiety and weird thoughts from time to time, and if we normalize that fact and not freak out over it, then our bodies will calm down. I think as time passes and we get desensitized, the risk of falling back in gets less and less.
@@kellystdennis5042 thank you, makes sense :)
Had the worst day today, sometimes i feel i would never be like my old self, hope i gain my hope back, thanks for this
You will, God is gonna help all of us recover, it will end.
This is a gem for real. The spiraling can become a real thing if you don’t have the tools and you get stuck in your head. I appreciate this vid man!
True that
I can relate to every single word you said in this video
Thank you Shaan. I had an panic attack right this morning after 35 days. But the intensity was very lower than the previous ones. Also the last week was full of negative thoughts and Derealization and Depersonalization. But I managed to overcome them. I believe that I am getting better little by little. Along with medication and acceptance, I am seeing a good change in myself.
I too get negative thoughts friend....
How did u get over the negative thoughts and dp/dr?
@@zay2x22 focus on other things...eg: studies, chatting with friends, enjoying with families
@@ravikumar-tn4vrnegative thoughts are just chattering mind its not gonna happen donot fear it accept is positively and say ok i am having this thought but it is just a thought and do other thing after accepting
Having some fairly intense spikes today, and off and on over the last couple days … just as I thought I was almost out of the woods. Well, hurray! Another opportunity to practice responding more skillfully. Thanks for the reminder! At least these feelings no longer freak me out; but, they're definitely unpleasant and it's easy to get discouraged if I'm not careful. Anyway, if nothing else comes out of this, I have no choice but to learn to be more patient. That doesn't come easy for me! (Haven't watched any of your videos for several weeks, but good to know you're close at hand; the emails are a good reminder.)
same here buddy, just remember how far you have come in the big picture thats what gives us hope good luck you can do it
Shaan I love you...
This video just came at the right time for me. Been doing so well but last few days I've had a bit of a setback. So what did I do? Panicked, oh here it goes again, how long will it last? Why?
After seeing this video I told myself to do what I'd do on a good day. So I got up, had breakfast, walked the dog, did my chores. Yes I still feel the nausea, panic etc but it didn't stop me living my day. Maybe the more I can do this the less the setbacks will be. Don't let your monkey mind ruin your day because that's all it is. Thank you Shaan for keeping me sane and helping me understand.
Resources???
You mean money?
That's right!!!
Sounds like you're on the right track. I keep doing the things I enjoy, no matter how much anxiety I feel. Not always as much fun as I might have on a "normal" day, but I try my best to savor every moment regardless. (Fortunately, I don't have agoraphobia or anxiety attacks, etc.)
@@jasoncastle If we keep going we get more manorial days and less bad days, that's my expectation and at one point I didn't see that ever happening. I dread the setbacks but I deal with them. Good luck to you.
@@Cas.1964 Thanks for that reminder. Having a really miserable setback the last few days. Really more fear than the usual physical anxiety symptoms. But, I keep doing what I need to do, and try to remember that this too will pass. ;-)
We love you Shaan!!
Omg. Have had skipped heart beats that are sending a shock across my upper body and zaps in other parts that also cause these shock sensations. It’s definitely anxiety.
this came at the perfect time! thank you Shaan!
You are awesome! ❤
I found your channel about two weeks ago because I had really bad anxiety, now I feel so much better, I really appreciate all the knowledge, even though I would’ve like to join the mentorship, but I don’t have the resources, I really appreciate it. Thank you very much.
It's too common in me😅
Whenever I hear about some universal facts I just feel this😢
Can relate
7:55 This is where I repeatedly listen and learn. Thanks so much, Shaan 😊
Very helpful video
I thought I was over it. No anxiety for about a year. But everything came back full on.
Same here this past summer was blissful until new years day it all came crashing down again we’ll beat this garbage out of us dont worry
Same here
Do not despair , don’t give anxiety the fuel of worry to grow. When you can accept these feelings and let them come over you without fear they lose their potency. You are not alone friend, one day at a time.
oh man, but Shaan says once you recover, you are least likely to fall back in .. I dont know what to believe in anymore:( if this keeps coming back even after full recovery, this is bad news :(
@@vinylg3421 do not despair. You will recognise all the patterns and get through again. It will be tough but you'll have all the experience to get out. I personally know two people who came out of it and never fell into the cycle again.
I find it challenging sitting with the uncomfortably of feeling nauseous and the fear of vomiting find it challenging some days I’m good at not resisting other days I’m bad
I have a doctor appointment today for routine physical and discussion of blood lab. results. I get so much intense anxiety days before the appointment and esp during the appointment. Im anxious over the lab results, but i also get anxious just waiting in the exam room (its like i get claustrophobic in exam room)because I feel im going to embarrass myself because the doctor and staff will see the anxiety on my face. Any suggestions?
does anyone know if anxiety medication helps with weed introduced anxiety
I wonder how on earth does he can speak my mind
I actually got severe anxiety right after covid last year it seems to go away and back to normal then return after 4 to 5 months 😩
Why then wt happen
Never had it before in my life i guess covid can just cause anxiety never had it in life until after covid
@@princegeorge-nh2moIt is not covid it is the fear itself.But we cant be brave if we dont face our fears ☺️
@@Shukke1992what if when you caught Covid, you didn’t really feel any fear? I feel like it stressed my body out, and unfortunately our bodies have a limit, and it took it over mine, which means I was already experiencing stress before I got Covid, and stress causes anxiety, depression, and insomnia, and messes with your hormones which effects your hair, how long it takes to recover is the question, I noticed over the summer that heat now is viewed as stress and raises cortisol levels, which is why I have physical anxiety symptoms in the heat, I’m not saying I wasn’t fearing the virus in 2020 but weren’t we all
the fact that is goes away for a while is good to me, I wish I could get a 4 month break, I personally think Covid stresses the body, and we all have a limit, your stress may be lowering but at times rising again, idk my theory
Brilliant guy...yes its painful to live like this x
Why does my body keep getting scared??? I’ve felt great for two weeks and all of a sudden I got little bit dizzy and my whole body went “OH SH*t!!” We’re gonna pass out, but I never do. And start breathing fast, I’m calm now but it’s just frustrating
Sensitive nervous system. That's literally all it is.
Sounds all too familiar. In spite of having more anxiety than usual lately, I hopped on a bus on Sunday and went to San Francisco to roam around a bit. Beautiful views and great food, etc. But, at one point I almost lost my balance as I was walking down the sidewalk. Was afraid somebody might notice and think I had been drinking a bit too much. At my age (75), I know balance can be an issue, but I'm usually just fine. That day it was just a couple brain zaps that made me wobbly.
Is there a video on how to respond?
I use lexapro to desensitize my nervous system and brining up my mood. Any thoughts?
same here,I feel like I cant make any conversation without tablets anymore:(((
@@LujzaJJ77wdym?
Medication for anxiety and panic is an example of trying to "fix" anxitey. Fixing is one of the "five Fs" that get people stuck in the spiral of panick and anxiety.. the more you try to "fix and resist" anxiety, the more it stays.
Well ofcourse i by no means am underestimating the calming effects of medicine, but i know that even if you calm down, you will always have intrusive thoughts regarding your Medications such as( am i gonna be on these meds forever? How will i ever stop?). And these kinds of thoughts themselves keep you afraid (fear of symptoms is another one of the 5 Fs).
So how can you overcome this without medication? Well.. i believe it is explained in this video and other videos about the idea of acceptance and the mistakes people make when they are "accepting". Acceptance works.. but it is a vague term kinda "in my opinion". People who are used on using escape and fixing mechanisms (which is literally anyone who is in the anxiety spiral) will always tend to use acceptance as an escape, they will have unrealistic expectations and will get frustrated when they "accept" and symptoms stay.. but the idea of acceptance is not to escape.. it is to acknowledge the symptoms, to understand why they happen (anxiety) and just let them do their thing.. you stop avoiding whatever you always tend to avoid and if symptoms come, you let them come, you slowly start to lose your fear of symptoms that way, and that is how you break the spiral, by losing the fear of symptoms, after you do that, your symptoms will disappear (takes a while , it is a habit that takes a long time to lose fear of symptoms).
I hope this helps..
@@sosoalsaeed Thank you very much!
@@sosoalsaeedhow long i should accept that it's been 1 year now 😢😢😢😢😢
can anxiety be caused by puberty? Can it be recovered and gone? Is it normal? How long does it take to recover? How long does it last? How badly was it for you guys?
So first: indirectly yes, with puberty there come a lot of changes and new challenges. You might start to worry about things you didn't care about before. Secondly: Yes, it can be recovered but it takes time and a lot of patience and dedication. Third: No. Doesn't mean it can't be cured. And fourth: It depends on the individual.
@@darian2109 DUDE THANK U SO GOD DAMN MUCH
How bad for me? It was so bad during the first few days (in February 2023) that I called suicide prevention three different days, and every agency they referred me to in order to try to find some help. Finally, on someone's recommendation, I went to emergency and got myself admitted to a psych ward. (I don't recommend it!) At least I got to see a psychiatrist and was put on meds. Anyway, that was a very terrifying experience. After discharge from the hospital, I was in a support group for awhile, where we eventually watched some videos about anxiety. Not very helpful, but went to RUclips when I got home and eventually found Shaan. Finally I found information that was actually very useful! Doing much better now (macro perspective), but been having some anxiety attacks off/on the last few days. This video was very helpful, and I feel much calmer now than I did when I started watching it. Also, it's great to read the comments and remind myself that I am not alone in this. Neither are you.
Your sharing really helps others