Oceangate sub: "How predictable was this tragedy?"

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  • Опубликовано: 20 июн 2023
  • Katie Couric talks live with journalist David Pogue ( / poguester ) about the time he almost went on an underwater expedition with Oceangate, and why it was canceled at the last moment.
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  • @AnitaHWells
    @AnitaHWells Год назад +51

    Thank you Katie for saying the obvious out loud!
    It is the Tax Payer’s who pick up the bill for such excursions by the$e Billionaire’s who signed a waiver and understood the risks!
    I believe we know the outcome and it’s bleak!
    RIP

  • @ggcruise
    @ggcruise Год назад +108

    Millions and millions of dollars spent to find (not rescue) these poor people. No one would put a cost on the possibility of saving them, no matter how remote. Yet those millions could feed, house, provide college educations, etc. etc. "Regular" human problems are highly scrutinized as to whether they should be funded, whereas five risk takers are funded without hesitation. Sigh.

    • @mr.majestic3851
      @mr.majestic3851 Год назад +7

      Space Rescue is next , NASA we need a rocket to rescue some crazy billionaires .

    • @Jeff.55649
      @Jeff.55649 Год назад +2

      Give away ur own money then?

    • @dianeleirer9878
      @dianeleirer9878 Год назад

      Well said. I agree.

    • @cannibalholocaust3015
      @cannibalholocaust3015 Год назад

      Same sentiment as “whitey on the moon”. Yeah let’s feed the poor billions of the global south so they can become trillions and consume what’s left of this godforsaken rock.

    • @Sheila612Miller
      @Sheila612Miller Год назад +1

      Yeah bc billionaires are worth more than us normal folks. Smh

  • @girlcheck
    @girlcheck Год назад +111

    Hi Katie! I'm just a lowly business analyst however when I heard about this it was the most stupid thing I ever heard of in my life. The arrogance is astounding! It's almost like a really bad joke you know isn't going to end well. The lack of risk management and safety plan B plan C or something is appalling! If I was the mother of any one of them adult or not, I would have forbidden it. It makes me so mad!!

    • @zabethharlow
      @zabethharlow Год назад +4

      I understand that the mother of the Pakistani and son was on the ship above as one of the pilots.

    • @sherihunter1293
      @sherihunter1293 Год назад +7

      I agree. I would not have allowed my son to go. He would had to fight me to board.

    • @Nurturing2
      @Nurturing2 Год назад +9

      1. You are not a lowly anything!!! You are Devine perfection!!!
      2. Did you hear the interview of the Aunt indicating the 19 year old was terrified and did not want to go? He went to please his father in an effort to bond with him for Father’s Day. It’s TRAGIC!!! 💔💔💔💔💔

    • @girlcheck
      @girlcheck Год назад +7

      @@Nurturing2 Thank you! I saw that last night! Folks need to trust their intuition. I would have taken one look at that washing machine and said No freaking way,! You ain't going!

  • @adriennem5358
    @adriennem5358 Год назад +76

    I work in aviation maintenance and the fuselage of an aircraft has a life limit, ultimately due to the amount of cycles the tube goes through expansion and contraction. On that note, prior to the end of life, there are scheduled inspections with eddy current to check for cracks or weak points. If there is no analysis program or maintenance manual for these submersibles, this should be a new law.

    • @__Andrew_
      @__Andrew_ Год назад +9

      plus, older airframes used for cargo rather than pax, arguably an extra safety margin.

    • @tarvitsenapua
      @tarvitsenapua Год назад +12

      yes! that’s the first thing I thought too! don’t tell me how many dozen times you’ve gone to the titanic if those are all with the same hull 😮

    • @jamesbriers696
      @jamesbriers696 Год назад +5

      Unfortunately these dives take place in international waters and are, to all intents and purposes, not under the jurisdiction of any country. Which won't stop somebody trying to sue them in a US court for damages etc.

  • @pattiderosamusic3292
    @pattiderosamusic3292 Год назад +189

    Greetings from Italy. 🇮🇹 Thank you Katie for bringing up the ethical conflict regarding the reactions to migrants dying at sea while risking it all for a chance at a better life vs. adventure seekers lost on an expensive voluntary trip - while we’re continually told there’s little money for saving migrant lives in the Mediterranean where thousands die each year vs. the interest in and high costs of the rescue efforts of this one submergible. Horrible to contemplate the loss of life at sea for anyone, rich or poor…but the different levels of interest, empathy, and resources are particularly striking this week. PS - Days of mourning, flags at half staff, etc. to honor the dead after yet another shipwreck is pretty much Europe’s version of the US’s “thoughts and prayers” after yet another mass shooting. In both cases, what we really need is effective, humane, and ethical policies. ☮️

    • @scl5172
      @scl5172 Год назад +4

      Thank you for this. So true!

    • @patisulambert5669
      @patisulambert5669 Год назад +7

      Well said

    • @barbarapeller
      @barbarapeller Год назад +13

      I agree with you wholeheartedly, with all the poverty and all over the world, and homelessness, this is how the rich spend their money! Yet, this is a horrible way to die and I wish it on no one.

    • @anastasiabeaverhausen8220
      @anastasiabeaverhausen8220 Год назад +2

      Well said

    • @hlowrylong
      @hlowrylong Год назад

      Hey dumdum. Don’t say “this crushes me”.

  • @PeaceFan1
    @PeaceFan1 Год назад +21

    You couldn't pay me 10 MILLION Dollars to get into that Death Tube!! NO WAY!!!

  • @letzigstudio
    @letzigstudio Год назад +30

    Thank you, Katie and David Pogue. As usual to Katie's coverage, a variety of angles and perspectives. Each handled with journalistic grace and integrity.

  • @JacksMomPat
    @JacksMomPat Год назад +44

    Hi Katie, thanks for having David to help explain more details on what he knows about this situation. It sounds so very grim right now. I just cannot imagine what the outcome is going to be unless there is an ultimate miracle at this point. I cannot imagine taking this type of risk whether I could afford it or not. This is very terribly tragic and sad for the five souls aboard and their families. 😢

    • @bettyplant4793
      @bettyplant4793 Год назад +2

      I second that motion, thank you Katie, for giving us clear understanding of what is going on in the World around us.

    • @camillep9346
      @camillep9346 Год назад +1

      Such hig h risk I hope this means young people cannot in future participate.....

    • @annmcdonald6180
      @annmcdonald6180 Год назад

      ​@@camillep9346exactly

  • @terryt5512
    @terryt5512 Год назад +22

    Great interview! I was very glad to hear that virtually no one else is visiting the Titanic wreck; with Ocean Gate's future prospects all but dead, they're all but certainly forever out of that
    business. All the better. It's long past time to leave the Titanic be.

  • @forcealchemist2603
    @forcealchemist2603 Год назад +30

    I've heard David explain his experiences several times now and watched his piece from November, but I'm shocked that he hasn't become more skeptical of OceanGate's safety claims. OceanGate fired David Lochridge after he raised safety concerns to the CEO in 2018 and then the CEO sued him to try to keep him silent. There were supposedly 7 different failsafes for the Titan, but I'm not convinced the failsafes were even tested considering what came to the surface in the Lochridge lawsuit.

    • @cannibalholocaust3015
      @cannibalholocaust3015 Год назад

      He’s a journalist, literally an idiotic profession filled with bloviating sycophants. People who are engineers or built these things knew immediately composites and tube(FKING TUBE! ) designs are not suitable. Go listen to James Cameron’s take, it’s v sad considering the fantastic safety record.

    • @leonjohansson6542
      @leonjohansson6542 10 месяцев назад +1

      David as a nontechnical person, non-engineer, is just repeating the OceanGate untruths of how safe the carbon-fiber construction was.

  • @tracypattin3746
    @tracypattin3746 Год назад +26

    I'd like there to be a discussion, article, documentary on why people take these enormous risks. Similar to Everest climbers. Is there something missing within ourselves that we need to go to extremes?

  • @leanelouw5455
    @leanelouw5455 Год назад +27

    I hope this will be the line drawn and a clear message to leave the ship at peace.

  • @jabbermocky4520
    @jabbermocky4520 Год назад +45

    How predictable? Predictable enough to make all people onboard sign waivers acknowledging that death is a possible result. Highly possible. The word "death" is mentioned 3 times on one single page of the waiver. If they didn't take it seriously, they made a fatal error. So sad. Eminently predictable.

    • @real_jc
      @real_jc Год назад +4

      Probably, they didn't read the waiver. They just signed it.

    • @WoodysAR
      @WoodysAR Год назад +2

      And after 25 trips down they got complacent!

    • @angelvoid6828
      @angelvoid6828 Год назад

      Where can I read the waiver?

    • @nickpetersoniii3046
      @nickpetersoniii3046 Год назад +1

      ​@@real_jcOh, they DEFINITELY read the waiver. One of them read it on video

  • @konradyearwood5845
    @konradyearwood5845 Год назад +25

    The fact that this submersible does not have an umbilical (for comms and emergency air supply) and emergency ballast release for rapid emergency surfacing indicates they were either negligent with regards to safety or that submersible is highly sophisticated. I think it is the former or they would be on the surface by now.

    • @Curtis69213
      @Curtis69213 Год назад +1

      Umbilical cord connected to what? It was diving 2 miles deep

    • @konradyearwood5845
      @konradyearwood5845 Год назад +2

      @@Curtis69213 two miles might seem like a long piece of wire but consider how we communicated around the globe prior to satellite technology.

    • @Collageartist69
      @Collageartist69 Год назад

      So stupid,

  • @edsmith9846
    @edsmith9846 Год назад +23

    Katie is such a clear thinker and great communicator.

    • @mikeparker3947
      @mikeparker3947 Год назад +4

      But has a poor choice of eyewear

    • @musicacc2255
      @musicacc2255 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@mikeparker3947very poor…

  • @donnabaardsen5372
    @donnabaardsen5372 Год назад +112

    I have no sympathy for anyone who engages in thrill seeking, dangerous pursuits. However, I DO have it for those who are expected to rescue these foolish people. Anyone who seeks their thrills via escapades that serve no purpose whatsoever, must then do so accepting that they may not survive, or be rescued.

    • @mjtjgilbert123
      @mjtjgilbert123 Год назад +6

      They do sign a waiver saying death is a possibility. They all understand the risks.

    • @fartexplosion4480
      @fartexplosion4480 Год назад +11

      But if the waiver didn't state anything about the submarine's shithouse build quality and lack of safety features, then the CEO can't avoid a massive lawsuit if they bring his brain-dead body back up to sea level

    • @markschuette3770
      @markschuette3770 Год назад +2

      and the cost is in the millions! if we had to run on "clean" expensive energy this kind of thing would be dramatically reduced.

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 Год назад +1

      We need to free them! Let's get these boys out!

    • @maxversteeg7309
      @maxversteeg7309 Год назад +4

      Why cant you feel sorry for them? But harsh

  • @adelaferreira4575
    @adelaferreira4575 Год назад +11

    Thank you so much Katie for telling everybody what is really happening about this tragedy !

  • @cherylburkhead1334
    @cherylburkhead1334 Год назад +63

    For those dreaming of a better life or a roof or water, just one of those trips would have provided for many and been a great adventure in humanity.

  • @radhikaschwartz3499
    @radhikaschwartz3499 Год назад +159

    I don’t want my taxes dollars saving fun seekers who are billionaires . The billionaires should leave a rescue fund of their money to save them if necessary

    • @tjfreno69
      @tjfreno69 Год назад +9

      I hear you.

    • @patisulambert5669
      @patisulambert5669 Год назад +11

      Excellent idea

    • @decmadine
      @decmadine Год назад +8

      Although I understand what you mean approx 90% of tax money is from millionaires and billionaires lol

    • @kerry8880
      @kerry8880 Год назад +12

      @@decmadine Patently untrue 🥲 lol???….really?!
      Such Sociopathic reasoning.

    • @skyegypze3982
      @skyegypze3982 Год назад +6

      @@decmadine
      Sadly. In some countries… that’s not true.

  • @alexandrawallner8814
    @alexandrawallner8814 Год назад +13

    Thank you, Katie Couric, for this thoughtful interview and the questions you asked.

  • @christinecamley
    @christinecamley Год назад +20

    The waiver says it all. Death is mentioned 3 times. I am so sad and angry that this is even possible to do without being regulated. James Cameron thinks the people inside this contraption knew something was horrifically wrong and that must have been agonizing. I can't imagine taking someone so young on board. What a tragedy. This wasn't at all safe and I am so sad it could happen at all. Horrific. The rescue cost and time taken to search must be taken into consideration. I have huge concerns about these adrenalin junkies and I worry enormously when humans have to take huge risks to try and provide a rescue if something goes wrong. Thank you for the superb coverage and information Katie and David. It's mind blowing. This was horribly flawed in an ethical sense. You are both amazing!! 🙂

    • @777Revolutionary
      @777Revolutionary Год назад +1

      Skydiving also mentions it numerous times. We need to cancel skydiving too..any extreme hobby.
      That being said, you won’t find me on any of those lol

    • @mikeabel7577
      @mikeabel7577 Год назад

      You guys sure seem to want to keep people from making their own life decisions. What else should we ban? Cosmetic surgery? Air travel? Pet ownership? These things kill far more people than ocean submersibles and skydiving. You people are ridiculous. These people live for these kind of experiences and you want to ban it because bad news on the television makes you feel sad. Pretty selfish thinking.

  • @LoveFlatfootin1
    @LoveFlatfootin1 Год назад +10

    Before doing any potentially life-threatening activity, I always ask myself "If things go wrong, am I OK with dying in this manner?" If the answer is "No, because I don't want to be in terror before I die," then I don't do it. Hopefully the passengers did this same kind of soul searching before participating. This perspective occurred as a result of surviving an complete engine failure in a small military aircraft that had to land in a farmer's field.

  • @kerrimccomb1246
    @kerrimccomb1246 Год назад +35

    I’m my mind the Titanic is basically a burial ground. There is absolutely no need to go down there outside of scientific research, and even then technology is so far advanced people don’t need to go. Maybe this will help people learn to respect final resting places.

    • @firvulag
      @firvulag Год назад +5

      Yeah not sure it's worth sitting cross legged on the floor for 8 hours in a giant thermos. Silly rich people.

    • @elisabethhughes6005
      @elisabethhughes6005 Год назад +3

      Thanks for saying that, I kept scrolling through looking for something like it. It seems incredibly, inhumanly morbid to go to such lengths to look at a place like that *in person*. It’s almost like high-priced rubbernecking. The deep ocean is interesting and mysterious and that’s understandable, but the site of the Titanic wreck is just something I wouldn’t want to screw with. Hard to explain but I’m so glad someone said what you said.

    • @allsorts4041
      @allsorts4041 Год назад +5

      And opt to visit the Titanic Museum in Belfast instead.

  • @dianedallas2993
    @dianedallas2993 Год назад +5

    Thank you Katie - yes, I am obsessed with this story as you are. Also, thank you to your guest for the in-depth explanation, especially for people who are not savvy in this subject, to understand what's happening.

  • @pcavesnana
    @pcavesnana Год назад +27

    I don't know why this tragedy is reminding me of the Challenger disaster. The frozen O Rings. The decision to go ahead. The teacher. Surviving the explosion only to be plummeted deep into the ocean. No rescue. Horrible.

  • @tomnohmy1273
    @tomnohmy1273 Год назад +6

    Katie's the best, not obsessed sad for them and there family. Very good point Katie about the $ amt involved with rescue.

  • @tracypattin3746
    @tracypattin3746 Год назад +13

    LOVE LOVE your show Katie. I'm as obsessed as you are about this story. It is indeed very different from an airplane. Jets always have many backup systems.

  • @kjmav10135
    @kjmav10135 Год назад +18

    When Katie says there’s no price put on a human life, I would add a correction. No price put on a billionaire’s life, especially if it makes good television. This is great television. These are BILLIONAIRES. Their families could buy the whole Coast Guard. They should pay us back.

    • @HeatherRose2023
      @HeatherRose2023 Год назад

      That is why the mainstream media has lost credibility as reliable, relatable and relevant news sources.

  • @PR-kd1sc
    @PR-kd1sc Год назад +20

    Just a thought, there was some really big $ involved here. 23 dives at $1M ea approx. How money can pervert judgement. Also, the Titanic is a graveyard and I think there is something morally wrong with that as well.

    • @marytheresejacksonlutz2533
      @marytheresejacksonlutz2533 Год назад +1

      This has been my thought all along-see my comment above

    • @bestoldschoolmusic4683
      @bestoldschoolmusic4683 Год назад +1

      I could not agree more with you. The Titanic is essentially a graveyard....let the souls rest in peace. Period.

  • @rozzykronfeld-wilbanks8759
    @rozzykronfeld-wilbanks8759 Год назад +3

    Katie, best interview I’ve seen about this. Thank you‼️

  • @Suzanne1999
    @Suzanne1999 Год назад +14

    They were aware of the danger involved. They signed their lives away. If you're going to attempt to travel to the Titantic at the bottom of the ocean, at depths exceeding 13,000 feet(!), you had better have emergency protocols in place.

  • @Sicilia928
    @Sicilia928 Год назад +9

    He's wrong about no one asking the question regarding the cost of this rescue operation. Stephanie Ruhle asked the question 3 hours ago on her show on MSNBC.

  • @robincrowflies
    @robincrowflies Год назад +33

    Yes, taxpayer dollars. Always it seems we are paying for things we don't sanction. Like WAR. Like tax breaks for rich people and corporations.

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 Год назад +1

      I would pay anything to get these rich men out safely! May Jesus Christ save them 🙏

    • @YallaMiami
      @YallaMiami Год назад

      @@michael-4k4000Jesus or Allah?

    • @YallaMiami
      @YallaMiami Год назад

      Yah, let’s go to Iraq then treat our troopers as Heros when they come back 😂

  • @Aljosef6366
    @Aljosef6366 Год назад +9

    Thanks Katie Couric. Love your interviews.

  • @twilfits
    @twilfits Год назад +24

    So much money for stupid things.
    And this is stupid just for bragging rights.
    Brag about things that matter.
    Dig a well for people who walk miles to drink sewage.

    • @dianeleirer9878
      @dianeleirer9878 Год назад +3

      I agree .Be passionate and committed to things that matter and make the world a better place. For the money spent, many wells could be dug to change the health of people ?

  • @RosebudKane41
    @RosebudKane41 Год назад +1

    Always love your interviews Katie 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @NewMessage
    @NewMessage Год назад +6

    You pay for the 'full Titanic experience', you get the full Titanic experience.

  • @philfortner1805
    @philfortner1805 Год назад +8

    Case closed, the sub imploded at the 90 minute mark because that's when the status pinger stopped.

    • @kkraut
      @kkraut Год назад

      Wonder what it was like building up to the catastrophic event if that’s what happened. Sudden and random or was there a foreboding indication that death was slowly encroaching upon them

  • @lucibjlb
    @lucibjlb Год назад +12

    This truly is horrible. No one wishes this to happen. I hope we all learn from it.

  • @kooale
    @kooale Год назад

    Great guest. THANKS!

  • @deeprose8598
    @deeprose8598 Год назад +1

    Thank you for continuing with your beautiful inquiring mind❤

  • @martini3524
    @martini3524 Год назад

    Probing questions and informative replies. Thank you both.

  • @Wyldfae28
    @Wyldfae28 Год назад +46

    I am wondering how the father of the 19 year old is feeling about the choice to put his son in this kind of danger. I am wondering how his wife feels right now. It’s bad enough she may lose her husband but also her son. Yeah he’s 19 and legally an adult, but anyone with a one in front of his age isn’t mature enough to really know what he’s choosing.

    • @misrecuer2
      @misrecuer2 Год назад +3

      I was thinking exactly the same.. If the father wanted to be an adventurer go ahead. To take your son that clearly is not mature enough to make such decisions is a different story. It’s a behavior of people with too much money in their hands thinking that they’re invincible.

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 Год назад

      The father was with him.

    • @Wyldfae28
      @Wyldfae28 Год назад

      @@grahamstrouse1165 Yeah, now we know how quickly this happened the question is irrelevant. At the time, we were all wondering if they were down there in the dark and cold, running out of air. What would any parent feel if they brought their kid into that situation? Fortunately, I suppose, it was never an issue.

    • @cindyk6411
      @cindyk6411 Год назад +1

      Wow, I think it was very selfish for the father to bring his only son on broad for his crazy death risk. The wife and mother of one ....now alone. The son told his Aunt he was terrified obviously not being able to follow his gut due to his over powering father. SO sad. That boy didn't even get to live his life or control his destiny

    • @JoGirl73
      @JoGirl73 Год назад

      I make choices and if they seem a bit risky I make sure my 20 year old is not a part of it. What was this father thinking :(

  • @DETROIT1948
    @DETROIT1948 Год назад +1

    Bless Them All.

  • @dz7a756
    @dz7a756 Год назад +5

    David Pogue said about the interview he conducted with Oceangate, "There's a thought in my head, in my rational brain that says they (Oceangate) wouldn't put us on this thing as journalists with a TV camera if there's a risk that's gonna make them look bad, if the whole thing is going to kill somebody."
    And this is why our brains are often not rational. We place too much trust in mankind although history shows we should never do that.
    The Space Shuttle Challenger blew up on live TV and we know NASA didn't have the intent for the rocket launch to fail in front of millions to see including children. But human error happened and one may argue that was a more calculated risk (testing rigors for the space shuttle).
    Be well and be at peace.

  • @patriciagurwitz509
    @patriciagurwitz509 Год назад +3

    Great informative video👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @karenvigmostad4013
    @karenvigmostad4013 Год назад +7

    All these public costs to try to find and rescue these people in the submersible should be paid by this company. Hope they are rescued but tax payers must be reimbursed. Geez.

  • @StevesSlideandJazz
    @StevesSlideandJazz Год назад

    You reflect our hearts Katie, thank you.

  • @susanfronk6632
    @susanfronk6632 Год назад +1

    Kudos to Dave, Katie, and CBS for providing this thought-provoking commentary.🤔

  • @DuckDodgers69
    @DuckDodgers69 Год назад +7

    Best interview I've heard about this tragic event

  • @cdmc965
    @cdmc965 Год назад

    Yes,I have been obsessed and very sad now that we know the outcome. Prayers to their families

  • @us-Bahn
    @us-Bahn Год назад +6

    There’s an irony in the visit to a submerged tomb that results in the death of the visitors.

    • @marytheresejacksonlutz2533
      @marytheresejacksonlutz2533 Год назад +1

      Exactly

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 Год назад

      Pray for these beautiful men! If these men perish, its because people didn't pray hard enough! As a Scientologist we believe we can save anyone and everyone!

  • @donnabrockway8545
    @donnabrockway8545 Год назад +1

    Hi Dave, THANK YOU😞

  • @Bridge_with_a_T
    @Bridge_with_a_T Год назад +3

    This is such a realistic stance. Very good points made about the logistics and costs, as well as the ethics.

  • @barbarapeller
    @barbarapeller Год назад +10

    The things that fascinate people today are beyond fathoming, the Titanic site is a graveyard of heartaches, who would want to relive this horrible event? You would put your life at risk to see that??? Very strange and unimaginable, what a waste of money, it shows where people's hearts are when this money could have gone to save many lives, the hunger and homelessness in the world, yet you care more about the dead than the living. May God have mercy on their souls, what a horrible way to die, there is still a bit of hope left!

    • @kcampos5619
      @kcampos5619 Год назад +5

      I don’t get caring about the dead from this at all. Seems to me their reasons for going down were about seeking thrill.

  • @jeffchastain2977
    @jeffchastain2977 Год назад +3

    Katie, Boeing denies helping with this sub, and they deny selling Oceangate anything. Rush ran around telling people that he got the carbon fiber from Boeing, and that appears to be untrue. The University of Washington helped Rush design his FIRST submersible, The Cyclops, but that was never designed to dive to the depths that the Titanic lays at, and the UW has not had anything to do with Titan or any other projects for Oceangate. NASA also gave advice to Oceangate for Cyclops, years ago, but Rush keeps referring to "partnerships" with these 3 entities in his marketing and in personal interactions with reporters and potential customers, even though these "partnerships" have long been over and had nothing to do with this vessel. You need to correct this or pull the video.

  • @elenaalexander6138
    @elenaalexander6138 Год назад +3

    I remember walking around New York City, on solid ground, in open air, while the Kursk submarine disaster was unfolding.That was in summer, 2000, and in that instance, 118 crew members died in the course of botched rescue operations. I don't know how many were killed in the initial or subsequent explosions, or if some died slowly, but I remember it troubled my own breathing, each time I thought of what was occurring in real time.
    This is quite different in every way, except for the way in which it is the same: It is a vessel far below the ocean's surface, and unless it imploded or exploded and those inside it died instantly, we are here, imagining horrible circumstances. And, yes, I have thought about how many individuals drown, far outside of submersibles, trying to reach other countries, in order to find another way to live, or live, period.
    limitations when

  • @drguffey
    @drguffey Год назад +3

    This guy, like those on the lost submersible, believed the safety hype of OceanGate.

  • @donnabrockway8545
    @donnabrockway8545 Год назад +8

    THEY WERE WARNED 😢

  • @carmendaniel3734
    @carmendaniel3734 Год назад +13

    I know how this can be avoided. Stop going down to the Titanic and stop making money off her tragedy. It is vile and disrespectful. It is a gravesite. Stop milking the Titanic for everything you can make off her. Let her RIP. No need to keep on disturbing her and the souls that lost their lives. I hope these five people won't be added to the Titanic's death count. Maybe after this it will deter people to want to go down, and she will get the rest she deserves.

    • @pearlsr1880
      @pearlsr1880 Год назад +1

      It's a ship. It doesn't have feelings to feel disrespected😂😂 You sound like a loon

  • @thejackdiamondart
    @thejackdiamondart Год назад +16

    The working stiffs hard earned tax dollars once again subsidies the life style of the rich and famous. or the owners of that submersible have insurance or they are billed for the cost of the search and rescue mission. All for a joy ride! These types of people need to discover the joy of helping others, they have the ability and responsibility to make the world a better place.

    • @sitinowak
      @sitinowak Год назад +2

      My thoughts exactly.

  • @JamesSmith-pc6bh
    @JamesSmith-pc6bh 11 месяцев назад

    Great to see you again, used to watch you all the time back in the day. Hope I'm not making you feel old.

  • @TrendingNewsTVusa
    @TrendingNewsTVusa Год назад +3

    So many lessons to be learned from this.

  • @somerando7233
    @somerando7233 Год назад +1

    I’m obsessed about this crazy story too.

  • @Adrian13rams
    @Adrian13rams Год назад +5

    Ironically titanic was the icon of new invention of travel, was even regulated to the standards of the time, and it resulted in a tragedy...when i heard they were making a replica, bigger titanic, to travel the same route as the original, I was like "uh hell no! Not for me" wouldnt even think of doing something like this 😳

  • @lilys7431
    @lilys7431 Год назад +5

    Not sure how I feel about the danger tourism and if there should be limited $’s on rescue attempts. Should it come to a decision between many or a few I favor rescue the many.

  • @skreekarose3610
    @skreekarose3610 Год назад +3

    What a monumental waste of money to get inside a tin can and plunge two miles into the abyss just to get a glimpse of a rusty old ship that sank over a century ago! WTAF? People are nuts!

  • @csmtcqueen
    @csmtcqueen Год назад +3

    NARRATOR: Stockton Rush was NOT safety conscious. Indeed, he was reckless and arrogant. The window was made of plexiglass. The hull was made of carbon fiber that made the vessel unable to withstand pressure. They avoided regulations, certifications and safety protocols. AND yes David Pogue there is somebody to blame and that is Stockton Rush.

  • @Indarow
    @Indarow Год назад +2

    I wholeheartedly believe that this tragedy was even more predictable than the titanic sinking.
    Titanic was built by the most respected ocean liner engineers of the day.
    By previous standards of the day it was so overbuilt in it’s engineering, no other ship could stay afloat with the amount of bulkheads breached that Titanic was designed with.
    However, that put the captain and the crew into a false sense of security that made them more willing to take risks they otherwise wouldn’t.
    In contrast, Stockton Rush used untested materials and basically gave anyone who raised safety concerns about the subs construction the middle finger.
    Now we know the sub had a catastrophic implosion…
    Stockton Rush was a fool for ignoring the entire submersible community and their clear safety concerns of the sub.

  • @Wizardofgosz
    @Wizardofgosz Год назад +3

    Skeptical story?!?!?!?!?
    He wasn't skeptical at all. He failed miserably as a journalist. He laughed at all of Rush's narcissistic "who needs rules and regulations" jokes, reinforcing his narcissism.
    If Pogue was doing his job he would have asked about the former employee who was let go, and any of the other dozen experts who saw this coming. Then you would have seen Stockton Rush's anger rise, like it does in all narcissists when you call out their BS.
    David Pogue is frankly lucky to be alive. He has no idea how close he came to death.
    As for the security theater that they did when he was there (the 3 strikes thing), how adherent to it do they stick when the cameras aren't on?
    Also, those 3 organizations that Rush claimed helped him design the carbon fiber cylinder came out and said that was bullshit. When he made those claims why didn't you ask for some citations and proof of that?

  • @Richard_K1630
    @Richard_K1630 Год назад +6

    I'm not obsessed but highly amused. Rich folks have too much have time on their hands.

    • @karenjohannessen8987
      @karenjohannessen8987 Год назад

      And _entirely_ too much MONEY - burning holes in their pockets.

    • @robincrowflies
      @robincrowflies Год назад

      Too much money on their hands.

    • @jaygatz4335
      @jaygatz4335 Год назад

      From "outer" space to the depths of the ocean, no bucket list is complete without them.

  • @irisn.garcia5883
    @irisn.garcia5883 Год назад +4

    That whole endeavor seems to have been extremely reckless

  • @palace927
    @palace927 Год назад +4

    The military submarines that the US have only go down 1,500 feet. What made them think they could safely go down to the depth of 12,000 feet?

  • @adriennem5358
    @adriennem5358 Год назад +1

    Let's hope they make it home 😢

  • @denisenilsson1366
    @denisenilsson1366 Год назад +3

    Oceangate is going out of business, especially when they receive the bill from the US Coast Guard, the US Air Force, and the Canadian Armed Forces.

  • @sledge6693
    @sledge6693 Год назад +3

    They can send info to robotic subs that have previously visited the Titanic, but nothing similar to this mission. This is why regulations/oversight are needed.

  • @EricRosenwaldPhotography
    @EricRosenwaldPhotography 11 месяцев назад +1

    Pogue should have done his job as a journalist and call out Rush on the lawsuits and other problems. He was more of an OceanGate PR rep than reporter.

  • @purejoy1985
    @purejoy1985 Год назад +1

    Want them found but realized after thinking more on it, would mean they would have to live through absolute horror in order to be saved. So torn on how to feel. But I do know my heart goes out to dad who not only have his own fears and nightmares but enduring this with his son. And I do feel they are not sitting quietly but tempers might be all over the place, blame game using up more air on top of no space to move. Hoping for a miracle and if found hope it was nothing like the nightmare I am imagining. ❤🙏🏿

  • @smudgey1kenobey
    @smudgey1kenobey Год назад +17

    August Piccard built a deep ocean vessel with a float filled with gasoline and travelled with his son into an ocean trench in the 1950s. This is what explorers are like! They travel to the North Pole in ships that are meant to freeze in the ice pack and drift over the pole. They climb the highest peaks in wool suits and dodge avalanches. They ascend in hot air or helium balloons. They jump out of the balloons and drift back to earth with parachutes. They SCUBA dive in caves. They don’t all survive. If people want to pay money to share in the adventure, they also share the risks. It’s sad that wool suits aren’t warm enough, or avalanches can’t always be dodged, that parachutes fail, that helium leaks, that ice crushes iron. It’s exhilarating when the explorers come back to us. I toast them all, the ill-fated and the fortunate.

  • @kdpunshon3073
    @kdpunshon3073 Год назад +4

    Crazy that we are funding this search for all the reasons discussed. These 5 souls knew the risks.

    • @Jeff.55649
      @Jeff.55649 Год назад

      So if something happens to you or your family everyone should just say fck them?

  • @tristan583
    @tristan583 Год назад +3

    The Universe is still undefeated

  • @danriley5848
    @danriley5848 Год назад +1

    I have a feeling that the sub imploded during the decent. The carbon fiber shell of the sub could have had an unseen crack and I don't think that the material should have ever been used, tragic.

  • @BlueJazzBoyNZ
    @BlueJazzBoyNZ Год назад +4

    What type of parent takes their teenage child along on this Fools Voyage..

    • @BabySpit
      @BabySpit Год назад

      Idk what about those migrants that took their children onto a crowded boat and it sank. Both incredibly dumb and dangerous acts but financial status worlds apart. I love humans ❤

    • @invisiblehands8498
      @invisiblehands8498 Год назад

      ​@@BabySpitnazi

  • @michael-4k4000
    @michael-4k4000 Год назад +1

    We needto get these boys out, no matter what!

  • @adelaferreira4575
    @adelaferreira4575 Год назад +3

    Everything that we know about the oceans deep high pressure has informed us of the dangers to adventure into the bottom of the sea,like the shuttle all subs and planes and rockets have a limited life,this little submersible thing looks very improvised carbon fiber or not you don’t mess with the ocean,we hope they can be found but all the odds are against them and it is a very sad day for discovery adventures and the families of the five persons who are down there God knows where ,really sad !

  • @marytheresejacksonlutz2533
    @marytheresejacksonlutz2533 Год назад +2

    Why aren’t people regarding the remains of the Titanic as sacred. Humans lost their lives amongst this wreckage.

  • @Ashley-Renae1989
    @Ashley-Renae1989 Год назад +3

    Using an old video game controller should've been the first clue to the passengers that this wasn't such a good idea. God, please be with all involved, and guide them safely to You. Whether it's going home to be with their families or going home
    to be with You, please show them strength, love, compassion, mercy and peace during their difficult and unpredictable journey ahead, amen.

  • @jcepri
    @jcepri Год назад

    5:04 What good is the capsule if the thrusters don't work. Were those purchased at Home Depot?

  • @gildedage6020
    @gildedage6020 Год назад +3

    If arrogant, narcissistic men choose to risk their lives on this kind of folly, so be it. But, to endanger a young nineteen year old's (RIP) life due to his father pressuring him into joining him on this doomed voyage is unconscionable, to say the least. Sadly, the only person I feel bad about is the child and his mother.

  • @johnwelch6490
    @johnwelch6490 Год назад +3

    Fatigue with every dive. How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?

  • @esmereldapinchon1422
    @esmereldapinchon1422 Год назад +2

    Boeing and UW have said they had nothing to do w this thing’s design.

  • @JustChillingOnTattoine
    @JustChillingOnTattoine Год назад

    I must be totally ignorant, but I remember seeing a clip here on youtube of Derrick Shore recounting his experience going down to the Titanic in an old MIR submersible some 15-20 years ago. That thing had radio to communicate with the surface and its own sonar to where its going. What am I missing something here??

  • @johnelliott7020
    @johnelliott7020 Год назад +2

    This is predictable - the pressure of going up and down puts stress on the hull.

  • @sugarfreemints
    @sugarfreemints Год назад +1

    We cannot be sure that the implosion of the submarine was on Sunday when communication with the surface was lost, it could have been yesterday, that would explain why noises were heard every half hour, probably the crew members were alive and trying to communicate with the outside by sending that signal help, they knew their time was short. The same damage caused by the collision of the submarine with the bottom of the sea caused the implosion to occur over the hours after the dying crew had suffocated little by little in the complete darkness in the terrors of the depths of the oceans.

  • @dannmarceau
    @dannmarceau Год назад +5

    Not obsessed, but I am kind of saddened; I mean, play stupid games, win stupid prizes; once again, money does not equate to good old common sense.

  • @bettymaugeri7316
    @bettymaugeri7316 Год назад

    Praying for a miracle 🙏

  • @WoodysAR
    @WoodysAR Год назад +1

    Carbon Fiber Capsule? They installed a Port Hole at one end rated tor 1,300 feet and went down to 4,800 feet with it.

  • @barbaraharley3149
    @barbaraharley3149 Год назад +1

    Thnk u katie for speaking true. But i hope they are found and alive. But the chances are so slim.katie aways ask the right questons .

  • @Wonkaforever
    @Wonkaforever Год назад +6

    Rich people’s problems. They should have to pay for their own rescue, if indeed they are even rescued.

  • @sahar8265
    @sahar8265 Год назад +1

    "The indestructible pressure hull was built in collaboration with Boeing and NASA"...
    Watching this a few weeks after the tragedy the most important thing I learned that David Pogue is no investigative reporter. He parroted lines that Stockton fed him without doing fact checking or investigation.