TurboNanza Improves Video And Audio Output From The TurboGrafx 16!
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- Turbocharging The TurboGrafx 16 With The TurboNanza
The Turbografx 16 (and PC Engine) just got a fantastic video and AUDIO upgrade with the TurboNanza kit from Zaxour! One of the cool things this mod does is fix the Turbo EverDrive PRO mono audio limitation to get STEREO audio with Super CD Games!
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Timestamps
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2:38 TurboNanza Parts
3:48 TurboNanza Install Tutorial
12:49 TurboNanza Features
14:17 Captured Footage Comparison
16:26 Pros and Cons
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It just keep blowing my mind how far retro tech mods have come in the last 3 years.
Agree dude!! It’s insane!
I don't even own any retro consoles but i love watching all the cool stuff the community comes up with!
Gotta keep the tech alive somehow.
We need to thank great engineering and... China.
Imagine being the guy who did the soldering before and seeing your work online 😬🤣🤣
True, but to be fair the assembly quality overall gives off pretty intense sweatshop vibes.
The poor guy is probably watching this at home right now just sobbing his eyes out
He'd really hate that Voultar guy. "What do you MEAN don't use hot glue?!"
It was my dad. He's dead now.
That mounting solution (PCB+upside down connector+PCB-to-flat-ribbon-Cable) is one of the most GENIUS solutions I have ever SEEN!
Tito, I find it very cool that you always opt for installation steps that are more easily reversible whenever possible! Also, this is a great mod, s-video looks so good.
Thank you ViewtifulSam!
S-Video looks *crazy* good with this mod.
It's possibly the best way to view these games.
So glad to see the PCE/TG16 get love! The ED Pro and now an internal video mod, all in a couple weeks of each other?! Awesome! When i have a chance ill be grabbing both if at all possible.
Immediately DMed Zaxour for one of these. S-video is EXACTLY what I want to use with my PC Engine, and I'm going to be picking up a Turbo Everdrive Pro ASAP. Thank you Tito and Zaxour!
Hot glue and cold solder joints is the name of my new album
I love it 🤣
FINALLY! I've been wanting to stream my PC Engine games with my friends for years. Thank you SO much for covering this!
You’re my favorite modder on RUclips, Tito. I really appreciate all of the work you do to provide us fun and interesting content. 🎮
🙏 thank you 7even! That mean a lot!
Well that settles it. A flush mod for my TG-16 that taps into the og S-Video signal, AND enables stereo support for the Turbo EverDrive Pro! I finally have a reason to upgrade from my old Turbo ED version 2.5. Just gotta wait for the Turbo Pro to get back in stock.
I just want to say. You got me into Soldering. Ive done a lot of Practice Kits and modded a gameboy or two.
That’s awesome Lone Star! I want to see those modded game boys 😁
Lone Starr! I see your soldering iron is as big as mine. Now let's see how well you handle it!
I really appreciate your tenacity, man. Your soldering skills have improved so much over the years. You were never shy to attempt console mods on camera and I'm thankful you weren't.
Its got sports games, flying games and adventure games! Used to love seeing the Turbo Graphics commercials back in the day. Its nice to see this console still getting some love!
I’ve gotten back into crts recently and my main set (Sony KV-S42) maxes out at S-Video (which is still awesome looking). Unfortunately I sold my engine block for a spark plug since I always hated the way it fit… but the spark plug doesn’t support s video.
This looks like a great solution, and I love that I’ll be able to put my back cover on.
Thanks for sharing this Tito! I was able to secure one of these badass devices! I can't wait to get it!
OMG! Thank you! I have been looking for something like this. My turbo has been collecting dust because I didn’t have an adequate way to hook it up.
I will always appreciate the ways people keep these systems and games alive, both through hardware by mods like this and software through emulation or softmodding. Glad that the Turbografx has been given more love thanks to it all :)
Now that is a great one, lad. Even with hard to find consoles saves everyone enough trouble, including reliving their classic past game moments.
This is an awesome mod regardless of my fear of having my TG16 modified since so few exist but it looks so good like it should be there from the get go
Perfect excuse to import a PC Engine. I don't see a problem here :)
Such a gawd dang underrated console... Still have mine, might end up doing this mod to upgrade it.
Totally agree!
This channel is so professional! I Love it! Thanks!!!!
Thank you!
It is! Those intros with the spinning game systems is amazing... how does he do that? It's not CGI, because you can see the blemishes on the systems he's using.
Just have to say that's an excellent name. More mods should have pun names
Agree!
Tito great video! Ill have to install one of these on the original pcengine. I don't know how this mod got under my radar. Thanks for showing it off👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks scruffy!!
Wow, that's an awesome kit. Great video!
Very nice video!
I have a busted TurboGrafx-16 here with a super bad AV job, but great paint job. I'll give this TurboNanza install a go after a successful recap! 🔥
Great video as always Tito!! I should have my Turbonanza by Monday!
Thanks Tighe!!
Most excellent Brother Thanks for sharing Your passion and adventures from Toronto Ontario Canada 😀 👍 ❤️ 🌎❤️💯💯💯💯💯
Dude, your soldering work is exceptional! If I tried it, it'd end up looking like this unit when you got it from eBay. 😆
Thank you for your video, it's amazing every time!
Tito sei un mito. Certe mod sono epiche
Thanks Tito. Enjoyed as always
Glad you enjoyed it Travis
Cool video. Nice video production too.
Nice work on that one. I just recently had to re-cap and repair a train wreck of a PC Engine DUO with spaghetti nets of a homebrew region mod on the HuCard slot.
I hope you were able to repair it 🙏
Man! If I opened a vintage console up and found what you did with the resistors just before the 8min mark, I'd close it up and give/sell it to someone who isn't a caveman like me. I wouldn't be able to match that level of meticulousness (to put it lightly) and it would be a real shame to do a hack job on some other part of the board. Beautiful work as always, both with the filming and the modding!
Thank you Penny Wise. My heart sank a little when I opened it. Thankfully I was able to give the console a second lease on life.
I loved my TurboGrafx16. These things were pretty rare. I only knew one other kid who had one. I wonder if my parents have it in a box somewhere.
What a great mod for the PC Engine / TurboGrafx16, it's like the Triple By Pass mod for the Genesis/Megadrive.
It's great to have S-Vidéo implementation on mod, it's a great video output, a Super Composite without the complexity of SCART / RGB. The good balance between Price and Performance IMO.
And the add for the stéréo output for CD game with the Turbo Everdrive Pro, it made a great alternative to the Out of Stock + DRM Super SD System 3 by Terraonion. Not that Terraonion are bad, they're great device but with poor consummer service, and the DRM update for a device for 99% of the use case is to play Rom and Iso DL on the internet is kind of ironic imo.
Thank's Tito for the video 🤟.
Thanks Ace Bunny!!
Love the intro. I’m not sure when you got it but it’s top-notch
Thanks!
Great video as always
Just to note for anyone doing this mod; make sure all the wires from the main pcb to the daughter pcb.. are the SAME length! This is analog video, with sensitive phase between R,-Y, B-Y and those in relation to the "color burst" wire. Wire unequal length wire between then causes a slight delay, which causes a phase shift.. which affects the chroma (the colors you see). In this video here, there is no problem because you can see the 4 wires are all the same length
This seems super easy to install, even for someone with only basic soldering skills. And it's no cut, as well. Also love that it leaves the expansion port open on the off chance you want to use a real CD-ROM attachment. I have to agree with you about the colors; that S-VIdeo looks perfect. Only shame is that this isn't compatible with the SuperGrafx. Well, at least not yet.
I believe it should be, but I can't confirm since I don't have a SuperGrafx to test myself. SuperGrafx uses the same audio/video IC's and has the same expansion port, so...
@@zaxour Yeah, that's what I was thinking, as well. Might not have as convenient a place for mounting the Saturn DIN, but it should work.
this is excellent, i play turbografx games in retroarch and i enjoy the ones i have. i need to do more research to find more great games
🎵Hold me closer, Turbonanza🎵🎶
That re-shelled pc-engine is so damn sexy.
Thank you! The RGR shells are amazing!
Best retro console channel by far. i have modded many gameboys and playstations because of your videos. keep up the great stuff!
That makes me so happy! I’m glad the videos have been helpful!
This looks like a fun mod to do. Now if only I owned a TurboGrafx16
Watching solder work is therapeutic for me
There's the return of the wonderful Kapton tape! The best guest star.
Gotta love kapton tape!
Wow nicely designed mod.
Nice mod would definitely consider this if I was good at soldering
Lovely stuff, I'd love to get into PC Engine.
I've modded a few DUO-R varients but never really delved in the game library
Great video
I Love your mods
Eyy I have this installed on my TG-16.
Well the previous revision without the flex cable.
Great mod though.
Awesome work like always tito..👍.. thanks to this video i know about the turbo everdrive pro.. ive always used a clone ..🤭 (dont judge me) 🤭
Thank you Gus! The PRO is amazing. Adds the ability to play super cd games!
Glad you could get it working. I’m not a big fan of buying peoples failed projects. Got burned twice on some decent size lots. Both times I was told no repairs had been done. I get the items and got to see some of the worst repair jobs I have ever seen. In one lot some of the Gameboys where taken apart prior to being ship to me. Even though on the pictures I could clearly see the ones open where 100% complete in the photos. Lost both cases when trying to get a refund even was called a scammer on one of them.
When I bought it, it wasn’t advertised as modded or fixed. The pictures made the console look like it was in okay condition. Got a good deal on it so thought maybe I could fix it and luckily it worked out
@@MachoNachoProductions that is lucky. The first lot I got the person went through the trouble of putting each Gameboy in really mint condition original shells. Open each one up and the original dmg in that lot the motherboard looked like it sat in water for years and then was pulled out. The board was so corroded and swollen. When I reached out to that seller he told me that he never open them that he only works on sega consoles. Which I found hard to believe as his eBay listing had two modded Gameboys. I was able to get a refund on that lot and did return everything. I did fix one of the Gameboy pockets and did let the seller know that it was working. I just don’t like people being dishonest with listings. Any time I sell anything I go down a list of what I know is wrong with it and mention that I have not touched anything other then to inspect damage.
This would be perfect for my TG-16 that has a broken RF jack
Nice video!
Thank you!
I was under the impression that the RF shield is also a heatsink on a TG16. If the RF pads are removed and the shield is just sitting on top I wonder if it can still absorb the heat.
Only for the voltage regulator (the component that screws into the shielding).
Cool!
nice vid tito
Tito, my man!
gotta love saving a console where the previous owner went full gorilla
Yo man I almost didn't subscribe to your channel because your intros are too long and synthwave is too played out, but I'm glad I stuck with it. Your videos are most informative and clear way to keep up with the modding scene
You have to have good eyes to do that kind of work.
Hi Tito!
Great stuff, as always.
What do you use for the IFU?
Thanks :)
Looks awesome! Does it also work with the Turbo CD add-on?
Just watched the video. This has me interested. I currently use a TerraOnion SDD 3 and use RGB SCART to output. I've been having issues with the add-on even after firmware updates. Namely games freezing. Been thinking about getting the Turbo Everdrive Pro. This mod has me very intrigued. I use RGB SCART in my set up. Even though it's not specifically mentioned in your video, would a Saturn RGB SCART cable work with mod. I don't see why it wouldn't but wanted to hear your thoughts. BTW, great job on these videos... As a novice myself, your directions are clear and understandable. Thanks to your videos, I did the Picoboot mod on my GameCube and I'm just waiting for the HDD to show up... But about to do an 8tb HDD expansion on my PS2. Keep up the great work.
Yep, will work just fine with Saturn SCART / HD Retrovision.
I have to send one guy a private message? 2.6k views on this video in an hour. What kind of volume is Z dealing with right now? I'll wait for a digital storefront.
Ah the Tony Danza board
I would love to see you restore/clean up consoles even if you don't mod them.
I mostly come here for the epic intros
It's a shame it doesn't convert the RGB signal to composite colors, making everything look rather garish. At least the S-Video output looks just as fine through youtube compression, so it could be worse.
Unfortunately, without some kind of expensive/complicated CPLD/FPGA, that's not really feasible to convert the RGB to the correct color. There is a lookup table involved, and as far as I know, it's not linear.
I regret selling my TG16 years ago. Time to get another one.
Oh damn I own a turbographx let's go
Do you know if they balanced audio against any specific cd model?
S-video keeping the original palette sounds great
Good question. I also wonder if there is a way to have the RGB look more like the Svideo output. It looks more like I am used to with my current TG16 expansion card. The RGB here looks far too dark and look off.
@@videogameobsession Well, it's basically impossible due to how the RGB color table is generated by the PCE/TG-16's internal chips, versus the YUV table used by composite video, RF and the TurboNanza's s-video output. The main chips do output a straight-up component signal, which the TN does tap into for its s-video output; it's also the source of composite and RF on a stock console. There's currently no way to use it, and I don't think there are any other mods that let you use it directly atm. I would love to see it in action someday, putting it up against the stock RGB output for a true comparison of quality and color accuracy.
It's always cool when a console gets an upgrade to its video output. Have you ever tried using this thing through a scaler like the OSSC or the RetroTINK 5x? I bet it'd look pretty cool through one of those.
the S-video looks -fantastic- through my RT2X and 5X, for what it's worth!
I haven’t yet! I used it with my retrotink 2x pro. Looks great!
Great review! Does this mod still let you use the original cd rom attachment?
Yes it does, and you can use the AV output of the CD attachment without issue.
There has to be something wrong with the RGB output, that color is just way off.
RGB was not the intended palette. There is a color look up table when converting from RGB to Luma/B-Y/R-Y, thus the difference in color
@@zaxour Ahh ok that makes sense. Thanks for the info!
@@zaxour yeah, if you want correct colors over RGB video the only option AFAIK is the SHDS3 pro with the proper color pallette configured. It reads digital video from the system and converts it to HDMI, then converts the digital signal back to analog for the analog out, and it is pricy (although that price includes it being a flash cart/ODE as well as the HDMI output), but it can do colors right.
I don't have a TurboGrafx 16/PCEngine bur its pretty cool how you can even mod that console. The only consoles I ever modded was my Nintendo Wii, original Xbox, I even jailbroke my PSP and PSVita. I'd say I modded my PS2 but its not necessarily modded as I used a FreeMCBoot memory card. Oh and I jailbroke my Wii U and (New) Nintendo 3DS (XL)
Zaxour is an awesome perosn
The previous owner watching the video > -
Wow, the engine has been refueled!
With how compact the PC-Engine is, I was expecting the Turbo Grafx to be a mostly empty shell.
stuff like this makes me glad I have an analogue pocket, and the adapters+dock coming at some random point
Can you do a Gameboy Macro XL mod tutorial with screen switching mod? Your tutorials are very easy to follow.
Man I remember being so annoyed at the TG16 back in the day because it only had RF. I bought it at Toy r Us on clearance but had a composite monitor. The only way back then was to either get the Turbobooster, CD, or plug into a VCR. Then of course if you wanted multiplayer you needed the Turbo Tap. So I gave it the finger and it sat in the closet until I warmed back up to it.
As someone that grew up with this system, it is awesome to see people finally giving it the respect it should have had. Thanks!
I’m glad too! Let’s hope there’s more to come
The TurboGrafx-16 won't output ANY audio when using the Turbo EverDrive Pro from the RF output, not even when playing HuCard games. Of course you had no way to verify that since your console came pre-tinkered. The results you show make it look like it's using the normal raw RGB colors for its RGB output. Booting up Startling Odyssey 2 and getting into a battle is a good way to check.
QUESTIONS:
1 - What happens if I connect the CD-ROM to the TurboGrafx-16 after this mod? Does the audio go through?
2 - Why do you play your 4:3 games stretched to 16:9? If you're gonna do that I don't see how you'd be interested in better video to begin with.
Forgot to add a :P after question #2. Looks kind of mean-spirited without it which is not what I meant. :P
An IFU or Turbo CD works fine, but I recommend using the CD stereo outputs for audio in that case since the return audio to the PCE/TG is mono.
A lot of turbo
The mod is really cool! This console must be ancient if it came out before AV plugs.
Yep the pc engine is a very old console
It didn't come out before them, they just went with the cheaper RF only option. It hit in 1987 in Japan, '89 I think in the US. It competed with the later era of NES, Sega Genesis, and SNES.
@@brianjl7477 Oh. All of those came out way before I was born.
NES was the first game console I'm aware of to have composite A/V (RCA type) output.
CD-i was the first game system I know of to have an Svideo output port.
With many others having RGB/SCART cables in Japan and UK) Sega Master System being the first that I can recall.
@@videogameobsession The SNES actually has S-Video suppor tthrough its proprietary multi-port, but you have to get a special cable directly from Nintnedo to use it. The later revision mdel doesn't suppor this and it was pretty uncommon.
Be careful if you decide to use an original Saturn cable. With the newer DIN connector, the original cord might not work since the shape is slightly different and the port tends to be very tight to its metal jacket casing. I needed to uncrimp an original Sega Saturn s-video cord to fit in the mod since its shape is slightly off from the newer rounded DIN available these days. The original Saturn port has divots at the bottom-right and bottom-left.
You gotta show this to Joe Redifer from Gamesack, he just review the Turbo Everdrive Pro the other day
Didn't Doujindance already do this years ago? Which makes me wonder if his kit also fixes the audio problem with the Turbo ED Pro...
DD made an RGB mod, but, to my knowledge, this is the first mod that implements reconstructed s-video AND pipes it through a saturn DIN. The video shows that it does address the TED Pro audio :)
@@zaxour No, I was wondering if the Doujindance kit fixes the audio too...
Huh, im pretty sure i ran caps and jumpers when i added RCAs to my TG16, i may need to try out an Everdrive with a CD game to see if i need to add some.
Great video as always, I have a European turbografx but I can't get it to give me an image with the rear port and MD2 RGB or RCA and the Chinese everdrive. I don't know if it's not compatible, I read that some everdrives had a design problem, it's not that it's my favorite machine but I would like to leave it running, I love your fantastic mods. congratulations
I wonder if you could make a RT4K profile for the RGB output that fixes the color but keeps the sharpness.
Looks like the previous own tried doing mod Kentucky Fried Chicken style.
😅
Honestly, I am more than happy with my HDMI adapter and I didn't see one for the TurboNanza which is odd.
Hi Tito, thank you for this very interesting video. Could you please tell me where to find the saturn din connector. I'm trying to buy it for months. 🙏
i would have prefered gen model 2 output personally but hey, it is what it is
I don’t think they’re as readily available unfortunately.
Then s-video isn’t doable, unfortunately. You could always run wires from the 10P breakout board to a 9P breakout board, it just wouldn’t look nice and clean