I took a chance on buying a broken NEO-GEO CD listed on eBay. Once I realised it was only the drive that had failed I knew this was going to my console to get such a mod. I will be following these instructions. Thanks Tito!
@@MachoNachoProductions yup, definitely! I’ve confirmed with furrtek that the beauty of this particular kit is that you can choose whether to retain your optical drive or not which perfect for my use case.
@@MachoNachoProductions Metal slug is the only game worth mentioning that they’ve ever made and king of fighters recently lol I only took them about 20 something years to finally getting a fighters right lol and it’s still not even close to where should be
@@MachoNachoProductions Of course being able to load a bunch of trash games that you don’t have to pay for doesn’t feel nearly as bad as buying a game that’s trash and regretting it later lol that’s basically what S and K company was from the very beginning
I have never really been bothered by the loading time with my top loader NGCD. I discovered this machine 15 years ago, and I have been in love with it since. I have been living in Japan for the last 19 years, and was lucky enough to be aware of this console at that time. That's when I bought most of my present collection of games. I guess this loader is probably a better move for people who can't really afford to buy all these games now (I noticed you had an extremely expensive game on your SD card, by the way :D) and still want to see what the NGCD has to offer. It looks like a fun kit to install but the issues you told about had me worried. Maybe one day I will try on a console that has a dead CD player. Thanks for the great video, as always.
I'm glad you had the same problem I had with my SD Loader and showed it in the video. My SD Loader refused to sit on my CPU no matter how hard I pressed. After fiddling around for a few hours, I broke the lifted pin off the Bios chip by mistake and then I just gave up. I had to give it to Cruzlink to get it fixed, he shaved a bit off the silicon on top of the Bios chip to expose enough metal to solder a new wire to it, and then replaced the connector on the SD Loader with a new one, and then used hot glue also so make sure it would never come off by mistake. Works perfectly now. Also I would like to just put it out there that the SD loader has some sound issues with some game dumps that are available at the moment. So some games will need to be redumped and/or tweaked for them to work properly with the SD Loader.
Great video as always, I just want to add that there is a version of Neo Geo CD (called CDZ) that has a 2x CD drive (double speed), so in this version, the load times are not that slow (but slower compared to this mod though).
Hey, Tito. I've been watching this channel since the sub count had just hit four digits. I love it to death and I feel like it's so clean, edited/filmed so well, and gives tons of exposure to fantastic mods. So I hope you don't mind criticism from someone who loves your work. I feel like the titles and thumbnails of some of your most recent videos boarder on that of click-bait, the kind used by much lesser channels. I don't know if you're simply playing a bit with the algorithm to see what works, but personally, the straight-forward and sincere feel of this channel is one of its best qualities. I'd hate to see it lose some of that identity. You're doing great work and we all appreciate you.
Awesome, I love to see you doing more home console stuff. Your tutorials are pretty great and I don't personally think there's enough good ones out there for home consoles.
This might be just the thing to get me to drag my Neo CD out of storage. Seems like a really cool mod. Although it might be weird to say this, I'm glad it still has a bit of load time. One of my problems with the Neo CD emulators is that they eliminate the load time so completely that you never get to see the funny and interesting loading screens that SNK put their time into.
I love any additional attention SNK's consoles can get. I have only ever played on the AES, but the existence of an ODE mod might tempt me to track down a CD. Thanks for another great video showcasing another great mod!
Bro.... you have the collection I am aiming for. Though now with a family and kids, the collecting has slowed.... but not stopped. Thank you for all the great informative AND entertaining videos. You give me ideas I never knew were possible. PRESS PLAY
Million dollar quality video production value as usual. I have a guy who does these kinds of projects for me and I don’t even have to print out anything. Just show him your video.
Nacho, since you said you like it when a console can use your original collection + SD ODEs, I would recommend checking out the new Sega Saturn switcher by Will's Console Mods. It lets you put a Fenrir/Phoebe ODE in your Sega Saturn while still using the disc drive.
I followed this video and did this modification a few months ago. It brings the console to life and works extremely well. I have read before that people have broken the pin on the I.C at 6.06 in this video. I understand why as this is very delicate and also around 30 years old. I didn’t lift my pin to a very steep angle but once soldered I put Kapton tape between the two soldered joints as an insulator. There was a gap but I just wanted to be sure there wasn’t a short. Maximum respect to Tito, these videos are really comprehensive and easy to follow. Without his hard work on these videos these mods would be so much harder.
Awesome video! I repaired my original US CD system using a CD drive from a replacement Japanese CD system. And that was after replacing the lens once before. I definitely want to get the donor system running too. Have been looking into the Furtek SD loader.
Thanks for this. I guess I have one of the older ones and it never has worked (and I couldn’t get any tech support.) you gave me a few things to check before giving up.
That is a very well done mod. Attention to detail. The more I do the more I think reversibility should be required you never know when something better might come along or some thing doesn't work it's really annoying to tear something apart and put it back together and find out that much if you put in didn't work.
Top quality video, music on point, clearly instructions. Been following for a while Tito, your videos are clearly at a higher level, im gonna stay here to see all the good things that are gonna happen to your channel!
These kinds of mods are really going to be a live saver if they become available for more consoles as they too start to have cd drive failures down the road. I really love how it also lets you play through the disc drive after installing the mod which is the best choice that other mods need toallow for other systems!
When I was younger, I ended up getting Neo Geo CDZ (not much faster unfortunately) when it came out. I didn't care how slow either, considering how expensive the cartridge system was. Few yrs later. eventually I got the proper system. I remember pre-ordering the limited USA AES conversion of Mark of the Wolves & playing the hack out of it. The memories...
Edu, I'm glad to see you here! I love to watch old consoles been modified to get playable again nowadays! Tito's videos is a glimpse to retrogamers. Abraços do Brasil!...
Would love to see this kit made for the Neo Geo CDZ. That system had double speed disc loader and I also believe it had more system ram. Really cool mod for a great system, best version of Metal Slug 1 is on the CD.
Fantastic video as always. Love this mode makes this into a very useable console. I knew the cdrom was slow but good god didn't realize it was more fun watching paint dry tjen6tje game load.
I'm the guy in the discord that added a ton of hot glue on top of the chip to hold more downward pressure on the mod. This will work if you have a loose connection due to the loose connector.
@@MachoNachoProductions Oh he did, I ended up having to use both lol. I was getting bad chip dumps until I put extreme pressure on the connector. I believe he has since updated the connector to one that fits better.
Great video, I am so happy to see this exists, I picked up a NEO GEO CD in Japan in 2012 and have been waiting for something like this, I have an MVS cab too so usually opt for the instant load times. Is there a way to modify AES roms to work on a NEO GEO CD SD Loader? There are a few good titles that didn't make it to the CD version.
I owned a top loader. I remember it quite fondly. It was playable, but only after it taught you patience. The overall quality of the games made it worth the squeeze. One of a hundred things I should have kept.
Haha, true, I’m sure it was a great teacher of patience. The games are incredible for sure and they quality to me is indistinguishable to MVs and AES. It’s a great console for sure 👍
@@MachoNachoProductions There were a few differences. Some games would lose a few animation frames to help speed up loading. See Mai Shirinui's P-Power super in Real Bout Special for an example. Other games, mostly fighters, would sometimes have an option of only using one stage for all fights in 2P mode, only loading new character sprites. You sometimes had the option to turn off cutscenes or make character select screens a simple list rather than graphical. Older/smaller games loaded very quickly, sometimes even only once. It's mostly stuff you really only noticed if you were hardcore about it. At one point I owned all three systems. (MVS, AES, CD) The NEO•GEO is my all time favourite system.
This mod is fantastic bc it's non-soldering and keeps the CD drive. The irony is if you want to play Neo Geo games from an SD card, for most people it will make more sense to get a MiSTer with Furrtek's Neo Geo core. Unless you already own a Neo Geo CD it won't be more expensive
Thanks Tito for such a great video once again. Finished the NeoSD mod last night and what a night and day difference with the load times. The extra options are also welcome in the menus. For those that tackle this mod, I recommend good magnification like SUNJOYCO glasses for the pin lift on the rom and a fine tip on your iron. Helps to see the lifted pin in 3D. Tito makes it look easy 😆. I also cleaned up the 68k pins real good with IPA before applying the board to the cpu, and I would have the motherboard on a flat surface so it doesn't flex. Mad props to Furrtek and of course Phenom Mod for stocking these.
You forgot to close JP1 for the LED! Hehe. To all viewers: CLOSE jumper JP1 on the SD card PCB. And also if you aren't bothering retaining CD drive functionality, you can skip pads X, Y, and Z, but that's just a minor note. Good timing, with the whole Saudi Arabia SNK news. Seeing the loading times side-by-side really drives home how much of a difference it is. It *felt* fast, but seeing them like this was just mind-blowing. You didn't mention foam when you said what came with the kit. Did we forget foam? :O For the systems that short against the AV shielding: I recommend a double layer of kapton as the last installation I did worked fine with a single layer but as soon as client received it, it failed! A second layer and he was up and running. Be careful calling that yellow wire a ground wire! Might make some folks be careless with it. That wire is not a ground wire and has a pretty high voltage on it! Also, we toyed with the idea of a flex cable or similar. The reality is it would increase the cost of the kit very significantly. Furrtek never released board files, only a Gerber, so it's not easy to tweak his design (which sucks tbh), and we'd have to incorporate a flex or other solution into the Loader as-is essentially. Love your videos as always, brother. Glad you finally got up and running! I'm immortalized in this video now thanks to the Discord screenshot! 🤣
So glad you enjoyed the video! It’s an incredible kit! I can’t believe I forgot the JP1 jumper 🙃 I’ll make a pinned comment! Holy cow, I thought that was a ground wire, actually makes a lot more sense that power runs through it. Yeah I just heard the news about the new ownership of SNK. That’s a crazy coincidence 😅 Totally under the flex cable may not be feasible. Again, thank you for making this kit available! You are doing a tremendous service to the retro community! Cheers!
@@MachoNachoProductions haha the LED is mostly useful when you're first setting up just to see if you're BIOS is getting dumped, verified, and patched successfully. It's not really important other than that! (But I still like it regardless!) And I always enjoy every single one of your videos! Great stuff, always! I just built a GBHD Color recently that I would have never known about if not for your video about Gamebox's kits! I got a DMG kit waiting for me to install too! A flex cable would be super nice. Mena made a quick design of some sort. I also had some ideas based off of something Dan (citrus3000psi) showed off some years ago. The closest we got was trying to make adapters/QSB-type things to be able to use regular FPC ribbons like the one included with the kit, but ultimately there wasn't one with enough connections in it! The socket we found is _much, much_ better I believe and I recommend most folks at least give their 68k a nice scrubbing with a qtip and IPA before even beginning the install. Reflow may or may not be necessary but I'd at least try to get some oxidation off with the qtip. To be completely fair, I also thought that was a ground wire! It wasn't until I was trying to repair a broken NGCD until I learned otherwise. I was tracing out power rails and measuring voltages and trying to see why some of my rails were really low. It wouldn't power on, and it was just working right before! I had to learn a LOT about this console. Apparently the yellow wire has a higher voltage and when you press the power button, it pulls that yellow wire down to ground and that signals the voltage regulators to turn on/send power to the motherboard, from what I gathered. My yellow wire wasn't being pulled all the way down. Then I discovered I had a pin on the ribbon connector for the controller board only sometimes having continuity with the motherboard end. Console would power on when continuity was present. Turned out to ht the ground pin, the way that the controller board was tied into the system's ground! Turns out the pin in the ribbon connector was slightly bent. I bent it back into shape, power switch pulled yellow wire to 0 V, and console booted! I was worried once I learned it had live voltage; I was like "oh crap, what if one of those times I so carelessly left that wire flopping around it shorted something out?!?" lol so I'm glad it was as simple as a bent pin. I guess it didn't know what ground was so it was pulling it down to an arbitrary floating value instead! And the voltage regulator's output is like inversely proportional to the voltage on the yellow wire: the more you pull it closer to ground, the higher the regulator seems to output, with 0v on yellow equalling full/normal power out the regulator, so this is why I had a low, but not 0v output of my regulator! This console and this whole project has certainly been an adventure!!! It is quite an amazing mod overall and while it does have some quirks, Mena has proven he's willing to go above and beyond to help users and provide great customer support and we want to be sure everyone can get up and running! Next on the horizon from Phenom Mod is a batch of Wii HDMI kits and maybe some day some front-loader Neo SD Loader kits! You the man, Tito, and I'm honored to even have a 0.5 second screenshot of my Discord username 🤣. I'm very much looking forward to one of your potential(?) (unsure if it's a definite thing yet) upcoming videos! I don't know if it's a secret, so I don't want to spoil anything, but the one hint I'll leave is that it involves something very tiny ;) Keep up the great work! Hopefully we can get some awesome Nacho Nacho vids for many years to come. It's cool seeing the console stuff on your channel now too and not just the handhelds and other stuff! I really wanna get one of those Save the Hero things you featured to make cartridge battery swapping without losing saves easier! Take it easy, man! Maybe you'll feel like doing a Wii HDMI video :p
there are still tonnes of neo geo titles still in arcade cabinets all over the world. stood the test of time in the big market but but never really cracked the home market.
I was speaking with Mena of Phenom Mon and apparently the file he provided only allows you to build it but not alter the design. It is partially open source from what I understand.
@@MachoNachoProductions Interesting, from what Bob had said on RetroRGB, I had gotten the idea that it was completely out there for anyone to hack at but, if that is not the case, I stand corrected, thanks. :)
@@MachoNachoProductions That's a shame. The mod is pretty good as it is but with so many talented people out there, we might have even seen some better down the line if they were able to make their own changes.
Given that the schematics are GPL v3, where’s Mena’s source files for their changes? They’re derivative work, so either they didn’t make any changes to them, in which case they’re following the license, or they made some changes and aren’t following it.
I've had a NGCD for about 5 years now. Yeah the loading times suck, but the only time I saw load times THAT long was when my CD drive was failing. Still, Furrtek is a legend.
Anyone doing this mod, I suggest using a nylon scratch pen to clean the pins on the CPU before snapping on the SD loader to it, I do this same process when installing bios adapters on the Neogeo MVS MV1B and MV1C PCBs.
A word of warning to others, at 7:43 the part where you connect the CDA cable to the SD loader: I have 3 NGCD consoles and on each on the CDA cable is too short to complete that step. I ended up cutting it and extending it by soldering extra wire onto it. Edit: I noticed in Furrtek's instructions he mentions this issue: "On some models of the console, the CDDA wires may be too short to be plugged directly into the loader. In this case, solder 3 lengths of wire from the CDDA connector pads on the CDA board to the unpopulated CDDA connector on the other end of the loader board. Make sure that the order of the wires matches the order of the original wire bundle !"
I got a top loader when it came out.. trust me, being 17 and having NeoGeo games in your house was a dream come true. The load times weren’t even an issue, I honestly have no recollection being annoyed or moaning about it. The NeoCD was a very clever move by SNK that made NeoGeo titles affordable to a wider audience. Just take the NeoCD for what it is.. a great product of its time that did it’s job :)
Great video as always Tito! Agreed that the mod is reversable, but it's not quite "no-cut", there was a peg cut inside if I remember correctly. Certainly no difference externally though! Also, your Retro Renew intro has been changed for a couple videos. Kinda miss the old one, but also enjoying this one. Really torn! 😅
Hey Maciben! That’s true, I think I forgot about that when drafting the script but dude realize it when I was editing the video. Yeah, I noticed that video retention falls during the intro and I was thinking it could be because it was too long. I’ve done a couple videos with a shorter version to see if there’s a difference. Cheers!
Only on the brown fuzzy shielding version! The metal shielding version requires no cutting. Stay tuned to our Discord for stock updates! Right now parts shortage is unfortunately making this unfeasible.
It's my biggest issue with most of the ODEs, that you have to flat out remove the optical drive to install them. It's especially painful for systems like the Dreamcast where the optical drive/disks were unique so you would need another Dreamcast just to legally dump your game collection in the first place to use in an ODE.
I've wanted one of these since I was a kid and now that I'm a baller adult maybe I'll pick one up. been getting into soldering again with keyboards so this could be fun
Try playing the early low meg games on original CD... they run fine. This mod is fine for the people who haven't got original AES/MVS hardware .. or legit NeoCD discs I guess... just rom sets.
The socket connection is reliable if you use a proper socket with enhanced strenght (Amiga 600 CPU/RAM expansions are made that way). What may help further is something that will lock the PCB on CPU, but i don't know if it is possible here. Good thing you mentioned a solder may crack on CPU, althought it's a rare occurence. Spraying pins with Isopropyl alcohol and plugging socket "on wet" also helps getting good connection.
This mod is genius. Usually mods like this required u to solder directly to the chip and if your like me and don't have much soldering exp this would mean u couldn't do the mod, but using that socket to mount on top off the chip instead means this mod is acceptable to a lot more ppl. I wish there was a mod like this for the n64 and gamecube.
Lol those who would say the original is unplayable are truly jaded. Try going & playing even some modern games on one of the modern consoles without an SSD. Many of them take up to a minute to load the game when first starting. Horizon Forbidden West is one that takes a solid minute to load up upon loading a save. Yeah, it's not unplayable. Just have a bit of patience.
I wouldn't say the loading time are that bad to the point of it being unplayable. Only certain games have frequent and slow load times of the few NGCD game I have the loading times are pretty much the same as PS1's Cool mod though.
It wasnt a failure, i had my Neo Geo CD imported to to the UK in 1994 before the PS1 was even out in Japan. The sound on the Neo CD was amazing, nothing could beat or even match it in its day and yes i had the MVS version before this in 1992 but was way too expensive to run.
Yes it was a failure. From a sales and market-share perspective, it never sold enough to even break 1% of the market. Just because you personally imported and bought one doesn't change that fact. The Neo Geo CD was released in September 94 and couldn't compete against the hype that was already surrounding the Sega Saturn and Sony Playstation which both released in November and December of that same year..
@@MrRobarino Lol i bet you had a Sega megadrive or Supernes didnt you? I skipped both of these and went for a Neo Geo coming from an Amiga 500 which pissed all over those 89 bit consoles. As a Hardcorer gamer it was a success. Go look at Samurai Showdown or Viewpoint on the Ps1 or Saturn and compare to the Neo Geo. Neo trumps them both.
I would like to mention that the Neo Geo CD only has about 90+ titles compared to the cartridge based systems. Still worth it. I have 3 systems with 3 NeoSD Loaders. You also didn't mention anything about the menu system and cheats similar to the UNIbios.
Yeah it's nowhere near as much but there some quality MVS conversions and homebrew. It's definitely not the same as a traditional Neo Geo but it's for sure a much cheaper way to get into it... When parts shortage doesn't ruin everything...
my uncle used to have a neogeo, i remember telling my friends about this large console in my uncle's house with big-ass 6-inch cartridges that has graphics that look way better than the home consoles at the time and nobody believed me
I just wanna point out cus you said it's a no cut mod twice at the end of the video: one of the last steps before buttoning up the console is to cut a boss on the midframe making this technically not no-cut just one cut.
Load times are not the worst part of this console, they vary from game to game with some having a large load time up front and little or no loading afterward, to games like Last Blade 2 where there is a 1-3 minute long load screen between every fight. The real thing that ruins the NGCD is the lack of some banger titles like Andro Dunos, Eight Man, and every single metal slug game except 1 and 2. Really a shame.
Unplayable is a bit harsh, I played a fair bit with it before actually installing this mod. The chief reason for doing it, was for convenience, ODEs beat fumbling around looking for are I put my CDs. This way I can keep the CDs in their cases nice and tiddy.
@@DavideNastri One title in a sea of 90ish. Three if you also count The Last Blade 1 & 2 which, admittedly, does have some bad loading. Everything else is more than manageable, often only requiring one load and the rest is good to go. Most of these games would play no differently if they were on a PS1, 3DO or Saturn. Every CD console has to load, that's just a fact of life.
@@SkyScourgeGod Strongly disagreed. A few titles are more than fine but more "modern" ones are just pain. Imho any kof after 96 is just unplayable. Check art of fighting 3... You have many online charts showing loading times around (and more) than one minute PER ROUND. World hero 2 jet (old) is... 40 seconds per round? Not acceptable. Install neo SD loader and you will see what your neo geo cd is capable of. Perfection, loading times are close to zero, always. Ps1 loading times, compared to a normal ngcd are zero. Ngcd has 1x cd, the slowest of the bunch. Also had 56 mbit window of RAM to load into that just made it worse from loading perspective than any saturn or ps1. More than my opinion this is... The planet's opinion on the topic.
@@DavideNastri I admire your conviction. I agree that those load times were entirely too long, even in the context of the mid-90s. Today? Completely unacceptable. Sounds like this is the product you've been waiting for!
Cool video. Above my skill level, but fun to watch. Just curious about the socket connecting over the 68000 chip. Is it actually interacting with the chip, or just using it to hold the board in place? And are there any heat worries covering the chip like this?
The 68K doesn't really get that hot. No worries about heat! NeoBiosMasta has been around for a long time and has used this same approach. No issues reported over the years.
10:12 "But unfortunately couldn't capture this on camera" - This part is the worst part of the install. Ordered a kit this week and they still do not have a long enough ribbon cable to make this process very easy at all, plus you need to twist the ribbon cable. There has to be a better solution to this! Also there are a couple board revisions that completely change the orientation of how the ODE is directed so it can vary a little bit from this video. The two that I've done so far are not the version in this video and don't have nearly as long of a 3 pin cable to work with either, requires much more finesse.
I've never owned a Neo Geo CD console of any type, but I did use to have an AES a long time ago. I always like the idea that I could still have physical SNK games at a fraction of the AES prices, but I never went for a cd console because of the awful load times. As great as this mod is, I think I'll stick to my current solution which is a modded Neo Geo Arcade Stick Pro. All it requires is a thumb drive and the proper files, now I have the entire Neo Geo library as well as hundreds of other arcade games right on my arcade stick. If I didn't have the modded stick, I'd probably hunt down a cd console to do this mod.
I took a chance on buying a broken NEO-GEO CD listed on eBay. Once I realised it was only the drive that had failed I knew this was going to my console to get such a mod. I will be following these instructions. Thanks Tito!
That’s what I love about this kits. Giving broken consoles new life!
@@MachoNachoProductions yup, definitely! I’ve confirmed with furrtek that the beauty of this particular kit is that you can choose whether to retain your optical drive or not which perfect for my use case.
@@MachoNachoProductions Metal slug is the only game worth mentioning that they’ve ever made and king of fighters recently lol I only took them about 20 something years to finally getting a fighters right lol and it’s still not even close to where should be
@@MachoNachoProductions Of course being able to load a bunch of trash games that you don’t have to pay for doesn’t feel nearly as bad as buying a game that’s trash and regretting it later lol that’s basically what S and K company was from the very beginning
@@MachoNachoProductions Pharaoh
The fact that there are communities that makes mods like these to keep retro gaming current amazes me. This is really awesome.
I have never really been bothered by the loading time with my top loader NGCD. I discovered this machine 15 years ago, and I have been in love with it since. I have been living in Japan for the last 19 years, and was lucky enough to be aware of this console at that time. That's when I bought most of my present collection of games. I guess this loader is probably a better move for people who can't really afford to buy all these games now (I noticed you had an extremely expensive game on your SD card, by the way :D) and still want to see what the NGCD has to offer. It looks like a fun kit to install but the issues you told about had me worried. Maybe one day I will try on a console that has a dead CD player. Thanks for the great video, as always.
despite all the legal claims in these videos I would bet both my you know what's that they are not legit roms.
I'm glad you had the same problem I had with my SD Loader and showed it in the video. My SD Loader refused to sit on my CPU no matter how hard I pressed. After fiddling around for a few hours, I broke the lifted pin off the Bios chip by mistake and then I just gave up. I had to give it to Cruzlink to get it fixed, he shaved a bit off the silicon on top of the Bios chip to expose enough metal to solder a new wire to it, and then replaced the connector on the SD Loader with a new one, and then used hot glue also so make sure it would never come off by mistake. Works perfectly now. Also I would like to just put it out there that the SD loader has some sound issues with some game dumps that are available at the moment. So some games will need to be redumped and/or tweaked for them to work properly with the SD Loader.
Great video as always, I just want to add that there is a version of Neo Geo CD (called CDZ) that has a 2x CD drive (double speed), so in this version, the load times are not that slow (but slower compared to this mod though).
I would love to get the CDZ. Definitely a very sleek looking unit.
Picked a CDZ up a few years back.. way faster loading.. not that I ever had an issue with the speed of the original back in the day :)
@@MachoNachoProductions same here!!
The CDZ has no 2x CD Drive. It has more Drive-Cache and an optimized motor, to load games faster.
I have a CDZ - doesn't make The Last Blade 2 any less painful. 😂
Hey, Tito. I've been watching this channel since the sub count had just hit four digits. I love it to death and I feel like it's so clean, edited/filmed so well, and gives tons of exposure to fantastic mods. So I hope you don't mind criticism from someone who loves your work.
I feel like the titles and thumbnails of some of your most recent videos boarder on that of click-bait, the kind used by much lesser channels. I don't know if you're simply playing a bit with the algorithm to see what works, but personally, the straight-forward and sincere feel of this channel is one of its best qualities. I'd hate to see it lose some of that identity. You're doing great work and we all appreciate you.
Awesome, I love to see you doing more home console stuff. Your tutorials are pretty great and I don't personally think there's enough good ones out there for home consoles.
Thank you 🙏! Plenty more home console videos to come! And also handheld of course 😁
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This might be just the thing to get me to drag my Neo CD out of storage. Seems like a really cool mod.
Although it might be weird to say this, I'm glad it still has a bit of load time. One of my problems with the Neo CD emulators is that they eliminate the load time so completely that you never get to see the funny and interesting loading screens that SNK put their time into.
I love any additional attention SNK's consoles can get. I have only ever played on the AES, but the existence of an ODE mod might tempt me to track down a CD. Thanks for another great video showcasing another great mod!
You’re welcome buddy! I love SNK too!
Yeah now the thing is to find one, its going to be very tough, they never are in stock and rarely evailable when it does
Bro.... you have the collection I am aiming for. Though now with a family and kids, the collecting has slowed.... but not stopped. Thank you for all the great informative AND entertaining videos. You give me ideas I never knew were possible. PRESS PLAY
Thank you dude! So glad you’re finding the videos entertaining and informational! Cheers buddy!!
Million dollar quality video production value as usual. I have a guy who does these kinds of projects for me and I don’t even have to print out anything. Just show him your video.
I own all 3 versions of the NeoGeo CD. I'm really excited to see this.
Duuude I really love the production of your videos!!! That intros are amazing!!!
Thank you so much 🙏☺️
I'll never forget coming across one of these for only $70 at a game store back in 2005! I wanna do this mod asap!
Nacho, since you said you like it when a console can use your original collection + SD ODEs, I would recommend checking out the new Sega Saturn switcher by Will's Console Mods. It lets you put a Fenrir/Phoebe ODE in your Sega Saturn while still using the disc drive.
Yep, I am planning on doing a video for it as soon as I can. It looks really awesome!
Awesome video, glad it hit my recommended list! Good production quality
That bent pin header in the SD card extension PCB is GENIUS!
It’s a pretty genius design!
Lembro do Neo Geo Cd nas locadoras,apesar do seu carregamento demorado era um console fantástico na época. Parabéns ótimo vídeo
I followed this video and did this modification a few months ago.
It brings the console to life and works extremely well.
I have read before that people have broken the pin on the I.C at 6.06 in this video. I understand why as this is very delicate and also around 30 years old. I didn’t lift my pin to a very steep angle but once soldered I put Kapton tape between the two soldered joints as an insulator. There was a gap but I just wanted to be sure there wasn’t a short.
Maximum respect to Tito, these videos are really comprehensive and easy to follow. Without his hard work on these videos these mods would be so much harder.
Awesome video! I repaired my original US CD system using a CD drive from a replacement Japanese CD system. And that was after replacing the lens once before. I definitely want to get the donor system running too. Have been looking into the Furtek SD loader.
I like my Neo CD, I added a region switch to mine to change the language in games. I been waiting for the SD loader for a while.
You’ll love the sd loader
Glad your'e making a video for this. I just purchased one of these and need to get around to installing it so this is a nice bit of motivation.
Nice!
And it's here 😺 I have a decent person to follow now when installing my SD loader I have been saving to install into my Neo Geo Cd thanks brother ❤️
Thanks for this. I guess I have one of the older ones and it never has worked (and I couldn’t get any tech support.) you gave me a few things to check before giving up.
That is a very well done mod. Attention to detail. The more I do the more I think reversibility should be required you never know when something better might come along or some thing doesn't work it's really annoying to tear something apart and put it back together and find out that much if you put in didn't work.
Top quality video, music on point, clearly instructions. Been following for a while Tito, your videos are clearly at a higher level, im gonna stay here to see all the good things that are gonna happen to your channel!
Thank you so much 🙏! I’m so happy you’re enjoying channel buddy! Cheers!
Awesome video Tito! I managed to get one from Furtek last year but not installed it yet. Your guide has been invaluable. Keep up the great work!
Thank you! Hopefully the video will help you for your installation 😁
Please do the install!
It will just transform the way you enjoy neo geo games.
Jewellery.
These kinds of mods are really going to be a live saver if they become available for more consoles as they too start to have cd drive failures down the road. I really love how it also lets you play through the disc drive after installing the mod which is the best choice that other mods need toallow for other systems!
Great video as always! Thank you for the all the content you make!
Thank you for watching 🙏☺️
When I was younger, I ended up getting Neo Geo CDZ (not much faster unfortunately) when it came out. I didn't care how slow either, considering how expensive the cartridge system was. Few yrs later. eventually I got the proper system. I remember pre-ordering the limited USA AES conversion of Mark of the Wolves & playing the hack out of it. The memories...
"This is a no-cut mod", proceeds to chop off an standoff.
I remember the first time I saw one... Also the last one 🤣 amazing work
Edu, I'm glad to see you here! I love to watch old consoles been modified to get playable again nowadays! Tito's videos is a glimpse to retrogamers. Abraços do Brasil!...
Thank you so much 🙏 glad you enjoyed the video!
bilada
I love the fact that the ground cable connects to a pin named land
some of those original PS1 and Saturn games had some pretty hefty load times as well
Always impressed with your production value, keep it up!
Would love to see this kit made for the Neo Geo CDZ. That system had double speed disc loader and I also believe it had more system ram. Really cool mod for a great system, best version of Metal Slug 1 is on the CD.
Also broke a lot faster than the other two
it doesn't have more ram for games only for the cd rom to load faster but it overheats as hell and it's not easy to rapair
Great video Tito. I can finally use my poor man's neogeo to the fullest potential. :))))
Thank you! Yes, this kit makes all the difference 😁
Awesome video Tito. You're my go-to mod guy. You make these mods look easy.🤙
Fantastic video as always. Love this mode makes this into a very useable console. I knew the cdrom was slow but good god didn't realize it was more fun watching paint dry tjen6tje game load.
Thank you kill-9 🙏. Haha true, watching paint dry might be more fun 😂. It’s pretty crazy how long the load times are
I'm the guy in the discord that added a ton of hot glue on top of the chip to hold more downward pressure on the mod. This will work if you have a loose connection due to the loose connector.
I think furrtek utilized a foam pad to put pressure when he sold the kit. I suppose hot glue could work also 😅
@@MachoNachoProductions Oh he did, I ended up having to use both lol. I was getting bad chip dumps until I put extreme pressure on the connector. I believe he has since updated the connector to one that fits better.
Great video, I am so happy to see this exists, I picked up a NEO GEO CD in Japan in 2012 and have been waiting for something like this, I have an MVS cab too so usually opt for the instant load times. Is there a way to modify AES roms to work on a NEO GEO CD SD Loader? There are a few good titles that didn't make it to the CD version.
I owned a top loader.
I remember it quite fondly.
It was playable, but only after it taught you patience.
The overall quality of the games made it worth the squeeze.
One of a hundred things I should have kept.
Haha, true, I’m sure it was a great teacher of patience. The games are incredible for sure and they quality to me is indistinguishable to MVs and AES. It’s a great console for sure 👍
@@MachoNachoProductions There were a few differences.
Some games would lose a few animation frames to help speed up loading. See Mai Shirinui's P-Power super in Real Bout Special for an example.
Other games, mostly fighters, would sometimes have an option of only using one stage for all fights in 2P mode, only loading new character sprites.
You sometimes had the option to turn off cutscenes or make character select screens a simple list rather than graphical.
Older/smaller games loaded very quickly, sometimes even only once.
It's mostly stuff you really only noticed if you were hardcore about it.
At one point I owned all three systems. (MVS, AES, CD)
The NEO•GEO is my all time favourite system.
it teaches you Jedi-like patience... you'll be able to wait for anything after you wait for Real Bout to load on the neo geo cd
@@Shiro128b Sengoku is one.
This mod is fantastic bc it's non-soldering and keeps the CD drive. The irony is if you want to play Neo Geo games from an SD card, for most people it will make more sense to get a MiSTer with Furrtek's Neo Geo core. Unless you already own a Neo Geo CD it won't be more expensive
Thanks Tito for such a great video once again. Finished the NeoSD mod last night and what a night and day difference with the load times. The extra options are also welcome in the menus. For those that tackle this mod, I recommend good magnification like SUNJOYCO glasses for the pin lift on the rom and a fine tip on your iron. Helps to see the lifted pin in 3D. Tito makes it look easy 😆. I also cleaned up the 68k pins real good with IPA before applying the board to the cpu, and I would have the motherboard on a flat surface so it doesn't flex. Mad props to Furrtek and of course Phenom Mod for stocking these.
You forgot to close JP1 for the LED! Hehe. To all viewers: CLOSE jumper JP1 on the SD card PCB. And also if you aren't bothering retaining CD drive functionality, you can skip pads X, Y, and Z, but that's just a minor note.
Good timing, with the whole Saudi Arabia SNK news. Seeing the loading times side-by-side really drives home how much of a difference it is. It *felt* fast, but seeing them like this was just mind-blowing.
You didn't mention foam when you said what came with the kit. Did we forget foam? :O
For the systems that short against the AV shielding: I recommend a double layer of kapton as the last installation I did worked fine with a single layer but as soon as client received it, it failed! A second layer and he was up and running.
Be careful calling that yellow wire a ground wire! Might make some folks be careless with it. That wire is not a ground wire and has a pretty high voltage on it!
Also, we toyed with the idea of a flex cable or similar. The reality is it would increase the cost of the kit very significantly. Furrtek never released board files, only a Gerber, so it's not easy to tweak his design (which sucks tbh), and we'd have to incorporate a flex or other solution into the Loader as-is essentially.
Love your videos as always, brother. Glad you finally got up and running! I'm immortalized in this video now thanks to the Discord screenshot! 🤣
So glad you enjoyed the video! It’s an incredible kit!
I can’t believe I forgot the JP1 jumper 🙃 I’ll make a pinned comment!
Holy cow, I thought that was a ground wire, actually makes a lot more sense that power runs through it.
Yeah I just heard the news about the new ownership of SNK. That’s a crazy coincidence 😅
Totally under the flex cable may not be feasible.
Again, thank you for making this kit available! You are doing a tremendous service to the retro community! Cheers!
@@MachoNachoProductions haha the LED is mostly useful when you're first setting up just to see if you're BIOS is getting dumped, verified, and patched successfully. It's not really important other than that! (But I still like it regardless!)
And I always enjoy every single one of your videos! Great stuff, always! I just built a GBHD Color recently that I would have never known about if not for your video about Gamebox's kits! I got a DMG kit waiting for me to install too!
A flex cable would be super nice. Mena made a quick design of some sort. I also had some ideas based off of something Dan (citrus3000psi) showed off some years ago. The closest we got was trying to make adapters/QSB-type things to be able to use regular FPC ribbons like the one included with the kit, but ultimately there wasn't one with enough connections in it!
The socket we found is _much, much_ better I believe and I recommend most folks at least give their 68k a nice scrubbing with a qtip and IPA before even beginning the install. Reflow may or may not be necessary but I'd at least try to get some oxidation off with the qtip.
To be completely fair, I also thought that was a ground wire! It wasn't until I was trying to repair a broken NGCD until I learned otherwise. I was tracing out power rails and measuring voltages and trying to see why some of my rails were really low. It wouldn't power on, and it was just working right before! I had to learn a LOT about this console. Apparently the yellow wire has a higher voltage and when you press the power button, it pulls that yellow wire down to ground and that signals the voltage regulators to turn on/send power to the motherboard, from what I gathered. My yellow wire wasn't being pulled all the way down. Then I discovered I had a pin on the ribbon connector for the controller board only sometimes having continuity with the motherboard end. Console would power on when continuity was present. Turned out to ht the ground pin, the way that the controller board was tied into the system's ground! Turns out the pin in the ribbon connector was slightly bent. I bent it back into shape, power switch pulled yellow wire to 0 V, and console booted! I was worried once I learned it had live voltage; I was like "oh crap, what if one of those times I so carelessly left that wire flopping around it shorted something out?!?" lol so I'm glad it was as simple as a bent pin. I guess it didn't know what ground was so it was pulling it down to an arbitrary floating value instead! And the voltage regulator's output is like inversely proportional to the voltage on the yellow wire: the more you pull it closer to ground, the higher the regulator seems to output, with 0v on yellow equalling full/normal power out the regulator, so this is why I had a low, but not 0v output of my regulator! This console and this whole project has certainly been an adventure!!!
It is quite an amazing mod overall and while it does have some quirks, Mena has proven he's willing to go above and beyond to help users and provide great customer support and we want to be sure everyone can get up and running! Next on the horizon from Phenom Mod is a batch of Wii HDMI kits and maybe some day some front-loader Neo SD Loader kits!
You the man, Tito, and I'm honored to even have a 0.5 second screenshot of my Discord username 🤣. I'm very much looking forward to one of your potential(?) (unsure if it's a definite thing yet) upcoming videos! I don't know if it's a secret, so I don't want to spoil anything, but the one hint I'll leave is that it involves something very tiny ;)
Keep up the great work! Hopefully we can get some awesome Nacho Nacho vids for many years to come. It's cool seeing the console stuff on your channel now too and not just the handhelds and other stuff! I really wanna get one of those Save the Hero things you featured to make cartridge battery swapping without losing saves easier!
Take it easy, man! Maybe you'll feel like doing a Wii HDMI video :p
there are still tonnes of neo geo titles still in arcade cabinets all over the world. stood the test of time in the big market but but never really cracked the home market.
Great video as always, just a note on the ending, Furrtek did make it open source, which is the reason why Mena was able to pick it up and produce it.
I was speaking with Mena of Phenom Mon and apparently the file he provided only allows you to build it but not alter the design. It is partially open source from what I understand.
@@MachoNachoProductions Interesting, from what Bob had said on RetroRGB, I had gotten the idea that it was completely out there for anyone to hack at but, if that is not the case, I stand corrected, thanks. :)
Yeah I was speaking to Mena who owns Phenom Mod and he said the files that furrtek provides aren’t enough to be fully considered open source.
@@MachoNachoProductions That's a shame. The mod is pretty good as it is but with so many talented people out there, we might have even seen some better down the line if they were able to make their own changes.
Given that the schematics are GPL v3, where’s Mena’s source files for their changes? They’re derivative work, so either they didn’t make any changes to them, in which case they’re following the license, or they made some changes and aren’t following it.
How the hell do you not have way more subscribers!?!?
AT 14:23 except the part where you snipped off a stand off piece. XD
I've had a NGCD for about 5 years now. Yeah the loading times suck, but the only time I saw load times THAT long was when my CD drive was failing. Still, Furrtek is a legend.
Tito just makes everything look so slick in his videos it makes me want to immediately work on a project.
Thank you Red 🙏☺️
THIS!
Anyone doing this mod, I suggest using a nylon scratch pen to clean the pins on the CPU before snapping on the SD loader to it, I do this same process when installing bios adapters on the Neogeo MVS MV1B and MV1C PCBs.
A word of warning to others, at 7:43 the part where you connect the CDA cable to the SD loader: I have 3 NGCD consoles and on each on the CDA cable is too short to complete that step. I ended up cutting it and extending it by soldering extra wire onto it.
Edit: I noticed in Furrtek's instructions he mentions this issue:
"On some models of the console, the CDDA wires may be too short to be plugged directly into the loader.
In this case, solder 3 lengths of wire from the CDDA connector pads on the CDA board to the unpopulated CDDA connector on the other end of the loader board.
Make sure that the order of the wires matches the order of the original wire bundle !"
This guy is the best soldering tech I've ever seen!
By the time that game loaded from the CD, you could cook you up a batch of your own ramen noodles and join that guy on the screen. lol
I got a top loader when it came out.. trust me, being 17 and having NeoGeo games in your house was a dream come true. The load times weren’t even an issue, I honestly have no recollection being annoyed or moaning about it.
The NeoCD was a very clever move by SNK that made NeoGeo titles affordable to a wider audience. Just take the NeoCD for what it is.. a great product of its time that did it’s job :)
Totally agree, for the time, what it did was fantastic
Yep 20 times faster than an 8-bit home computer loading from cassette!
Most complaints about loading times are often exaggerated, there are a few that yeah are super slow, but not everything is that slow
@@MachoNachoProductions I just wish they've put more RAM into it, so it could have more ports from mvs/aes
Great video as always Tito!
Agreed that the mod is reversable, but it's not quite "no-cut", there was a peg cut inside if I remember correctly. Certainly no difference externally though!
Also, your Retro Renew intro has been changed for a couple videos. Kinda miss the old one, but also enjoying this one. Really torn! 😅
Hey Maciben! That’s true, I think I forgot about that when drafting the script but dude realize it when I was editing the video.
Yeah, I noticed that video retention falls during the intro and I was thinking it could be because it was too long. I’ve done a couple videos with a shorter version to see if there’s a difference.
Cheers!
Only on the brown fuzzy shielding version! The metal shielding version requires no cutting. Stay tuned to our Discord for stock updates! Right now parts shortage is unfortunately making this unfeasible.
Love that it keeps the CD drive! We need more sd loader mods that do this.
It's my biggest issue with most of the ODEs, that you have to flat out remove the optical drive to install them. It's especially painful for systems like the Dreamcast where the optical drive/disks were unique so you would need another Dreamcast just to legally dump your game collection in the first place to use in an ODE.
I remember seeing the long load times of the Neo Geo CD while watching Episode 11 of High Score Girl on Netflix.
Excellent video Tito, thank you for sharing!
Thank you watching! So glad you enjoyed it 😁
I've wanted one of these since I was a kid and now that I'm a baller adult maybe I'll pick one up. been getting into soldering again with keyboards so this could be fun
That all sounds pretty amazing. Only one problem though. You can't get these anymore from the official source.....
Loading in a tape on a c64 was even more painful. Keeping my neogeo cd stock though great tips!
I’ve never played on a c64, I can only imaging the load times 😅
Those press fit sockets really look like something magic when they are not faulty ^^
Yeah, it can be a bit fiddly but it definitely makes the mod easier
I hadn't heard of this console until a few months ago. It's 5 years older than me.
Great video man! It inspires me to buy some broken game stuff and try to do some soddering/repair
Furrtek c’est le meilleur !!! ✌️🕹 c’est du beau boulot 🙂
If I had a Neo Geo CD, I'd love this. Seems like the best of all ODE features and no cut. Oh and it's not 200 bucks.
14:22 Except for cutting that knub. 9:55 Lol.🤘😁
The graphics output from this NeoGeo CD is fabulous when connected to a LCD monitor via a OSSC. Even better than a AES or MVS system
Can you tell more about such setup? Is that rgb output?
I like the little dude munching on Ramen on the load screen. You don't see that on other consoles.
Try playing the early low meg games on original CD... they run fine.
This mod is fine for the people who haven't got original AES/MVS hardware .. or legit NeoCD discs I guess... just rom sets.
My compliments, beautiful and instructive video. Got a new subscriber.
Thank you!
The socket connection is reliable if you use a proper socket with enhanced strenght (Amiga 600 CPU/RAM expansions are made that way). What may help further is something that will lock the PCB on CPU, but i don't know if it is possible here. Good thing you mentioned a solder may crack on CPU, althought it's a rare occurence. Spraying pins with Isopropyl alcohol and plugging socket "on wet" also helps getting good connection.
This mod is genius. Usually mods like this required u to solder directly to the chip and if your like me and don't have much soldering exp this would mean u couldn't do the mod, but using that socket to mount on top off the chip instead means this mod is acceptable to a lot more ppl. I wish there was a mod like this for the n64 and gamecube.
este es uno de los mejores canales que conozco sobre mods y consolas
Lol those who would say the original is unplayable are truly jaded. Try going & playing even some modern games on one of the modern consoles without an SSD. Many of them take up to a minute to load the game when first starting. Horizon Forbidden West is one that takes a solid minute to load up upon loading a save. Yeah, it's not unplayable. Just have a bit of patience.
I wouldn't say the loading time are that bad to the point of it being unplayable.
Only certain games have frequent and slow load times of the few NGCD game I have the loading times are pretty much the same as PS1's
Cool mod though.
man those load times holy crap, how did this thing make it to market like that wow.
It’s crazy right?! 😅
It wasnt a failure, i had my Neo Geo CD imported to to the UK in 1994 before the PS1 was even out in Japan. The sound on the Neo CD was amazing, nothing could beat or even match it in its day and yes i had the MVS version before this in 1992 but was way too expensive to run.
Yes it was a failure. From a sales and market-share perspective, it never sold enough to even break 1% of the market. Just because you personally imported and bought one doesn't change that fact. The Neo Geo CD was released in September 94 and couldn't compete against the hype that was already surrounding the Sega Saturn and Sony Playstation which both released in November and December of that same year..
@@MrRobarino Lol i bet you had a Sega megadrive or Supernes didnt you? I skipped both of these and went for a Neo Geo coming from an Amiga 500 which pissed all over those 89 bit consoles. As a Hardcorer gamer it was a success. Go look at Samurai Showdown or Viewpoint on the Ps1 or Saturn and compare to the Neo Geo. Neo trumps them both.
@@v3teran75 i love all those platforms, but perhaps for different games :D
I just got a Neo Geo CD (can't afford the AES). I wouldn't change her for the world. Unplayable is NOT the word I use.
Which controller are you using? curious
Almost forgot I had one of these tucked away somewhere and a bunch of games.
So this is what Furrtek has been working on? Nice
One cool mode along the same lines that could be cool would be just to put a faster cd drive, or load the cds into the SD cards.
You should try watching the videos before you comment to them. Loading the CDs from SD card is exactly what its about, you genius,
Amazing mod. Might hunt one console to do this mod
Totally worth it 👍
Great 👍 work my friend
I would like to mention that the Neo Geo CD only has about 90+ titles compared to the cartridge based systems. Still worth it. I have 3 systems with 3 NeoSD Loaders. You also didn't mention anything about the menu system and cheats similar to the UNIbios.
That’s true, there are some other awesome features I didn’t dive into. It’s such a great kit, and I may have to do a follow up.
Yeah it's nowhere near as much but there some quality MVS conversions and homebrew. It's definitely not the same as a traditional Neo Geo but it's for sure a much cheaper way to get into it... When parts shortage doesn't ruin everything...
@@MachoNachoProductions If you decide to go through with that idea Tito. I say be my guest.
@@RastaJediX
MVS conversions?
Which ones?
Tasty!
Can NeoGeo cart data be converted to a disc image and be played from this ode?
my uncle used to have a neogeo, i remember telling my friends about this large console in my uncle's house with big-ass 6-inch cartridges that has graphics that look way better than the home consoles at the time and nobody believed me
odes are a godsend. While emulation offers a similar experience, the ability to hook up a console, power it on and play make it worth the hassle.
Completely agree, they are a game changer!
I'd call that an ode to an ODE.
I just wanna point out cus you said it's a no cut mod twice at the end of the video: one of the last steps before buttoning up the console is to cut a boss on the midframe making this technically not no-cut just one cut.
Out of curiosity, does the SD Loader also let you play AES games on the NGCD given how identical the base is?
Load times are not the worst part of this console, they vary from game to game with some having a large load time up front and little or no loading afterward, to games like Last Blade 2 where there is a 1-3 minute long load screen between every fight. The real thing that ruins the NGCD is the lack of some banger titles like Andro Dunos, Eight Man, and every single metal slug game except 1 and 2. Really a shame.
Unplayable is a bit harsh, I played a fair bit with it before actually installing this mod. The chief reason for doing it, was for convenience, ODEs beat fumbling around looking for are I put my CDs. This way I can keep the CDs in their cases nice and tiddy.
Unplayable may have been a bit harsh 😅
I agree with unplayable.
Every tried kof99?
@@DavideNastri One title in a sea of 90ish. Three if you also count The Last Blade 1 & 2 which, admittedly, does have some bad loading. Everything else is more than manageable, often only requiring one load and the rest is good to go. Most of these games would play no differently if they were on a PS1, 3DO or Saturn. Every CD console has to load, that's just a fact of life.
@@SkyScourgeGod
Strongly disagreed.
A few titles are more than fine but more "modern" ones are just pain.
Imho any kof after 96 is just unplayable.
Check art of fighting 3...
You have many online charts showing loading times around (and more) than one minute PER ROUND.
World hero 2 jet (old) is...
40 seconds per round?
Not acceptable.
Install neo SD loader and you will see what your neo geo cd is capable of.
Perfection, loading times are close to zero, always.
Ps1 loading times, compared to a normal ngcd are zero.
Ngcd has 1x cd, the slowest of the bunch.
Also had 56 mbit window of RAM to load into that just made it worse from loading perspective than any saturn or ps1.
More than my opinion this is...
The planet's opinion on the topic.
@@DavideNastri I admire your conviction. I agree that those load times were entirely too long, even in the context of the mid-90s. Today? Completely unacceptable.
Sounds like this is the product you've been waiting for!
13:03 why is the loader bar for SD is green while for CD it’s orange?
Cool video. Above my skill level, but fun to watch. Just curious about the socket connecting over the 68000 chip. Is it actually interacting with the chip, or just using it to hold the board in place? And are there any heat worries covering the chip like this?
Thank you! It is actually connecting to the chip. As far as I know there isn’t any issues cause by heat
The 68K doesn't really get that hot. No worries about heat! NeoBiosMasta has been around for a long time and has used this same approach. No issues reported over the years.
"this is a no cut mod"
“cut off this standoff"
Hmm? Lol
10:12 "But unfortunately couldn't capture this on camera" - This part is the worst part of the install. Ordered a kit this week and they still do not have a long enough ribbon cable to make this process very easy at all, plus you need to twist the ribbon cable. There has to be a better solution to this! Also there are a couple board revisions that completely change the orientation of how the ODE is directed so it can vary a little bit from this video. The two that I've done so far are not the version in this video and don't have nearly as long of a 3 pin cable to work with either, requires much more finesse.
I've never owned a Neo Geo CD console of any type, but I did use to have an AES a long time ago. I always like the idea that I could still have physical SNK games at a fraction of the AES prices, but I never went for a cd console because of the awful load times. As great as this mod is, I think I'll stick to my current solution which is a modded Neo Geo Arcade Stick Pro. All it requires is a thumb drive and the proper files, now I have the entire Neo Geo library as well as hundreds of other arcade games right on my arcade stick. If I didn't have the modded stick, I'd probably hunt down a cd console to do this mod.