Bro I didn’t realise you were a Nerdcore artist, I’ve mainly watched your reactions to Sonic OSTs but as a fellow Nerdcore artist, I respect you adding your opinion into this, you basically said what I woulda said lol
Ok, so after watching this video, i can openly say that Nerdcore, in all its entirety, is not a cause of depression, actually quite the opposite as i used a lot of it to break through my depression, and was introduced to artist that i had never even heard of. Rustage, FABVL, heck, even you Solo. And that music has and is still helping me through the darkest time of my life. Songs like DAGames Brace For The Freight Train shows that even small game creators can make something, making me wish i went with that as a job career, JT Music with songs like Night Flyer and Honk If Youre Hungry taking jabs at the stupidity of modern polotics, and even covers of songs with a new coat of paint like Caleb Hyles and Jonathan Young were inspirational on what it allowed. Nerdcore isnt just music, its a comunity, an inspiration to those in low places, heck it was Jonathan Young who inspired me to write my own song for my youtube intro video. It was DA Games that gave me the theme i should go for, and it wad you breaking down details of music that helped me understand what i needed to do to make it alive. This man is a fool, and worse, a confident fool.
This may sound silly but nerdcore may be what saved me from killing myself. Idk 100% for sure (I was kinda in a bad mental place at the time) but those silly little songs about games I liked helped me connect with others who also liked those games
Also I'm happy you are mentioning that he singles out hip-hop here because, while a massive chunk/entire subsection (or even majority) of nerdcore IS hip-hop (so maybe he's specifically referring to that side when referring to nerdcore), hip-hop already as a genre gets crapped on for "not being real music", and when it does get to be seen as music, it's seen as low-brow or not high art, the same way he sees modern nerdcore. It is so common for people to chalk hip-hop down to sex/drugs/money when 1. A lot of non-hiphop songs are also about those things, and 2. Hip hop is just as capable as being deep and meaningful as any other genre. Even if a hip-hop song isn't trying to be deep, there's nothing wrong with having songs about surface level things, whether it be partying, exercising your status, or pokemon. Party Rock Anthem is just about partying a bunch, yet it still managed to make so many people happy. Why can't hip-hop and nerdcore be seen the same way?
People like him are the reason why we got The Meta Era of Sonic for a while with both the writing and social media presence: “it’s a series about a talking blue hedgehog. Don’t take it seriously.” That’s how we almost got Egoraptor of all people as the Sonic Brand ambassador. Thankfully, with the new Fast Friends Forever direction we’re getting now, we seem to be pivoting back to a healthy mix of taking itself seriously with the occasional self aware joke
And speaking of Sonic and Nerdcore, how about the fact that Nathan Sharp is currently doing songs for stuff like Dragon Ball and Sonic despite having “serious Nerdcore songs” as well as self aware ones. Heck, most of them like Nightmare I can argue could be played on the radio and nobody would think it was a FNAF Nerdcore song at all.
his clear and blatant misrepresentation of psychology is absolutely distasteful, obvious terrible take aside. as someone who has struggled with mental health I can say that is absolutely just not how it works. i was done with him the moment he said "if you're depressed, just stop being sad" in the original video. rage bait or not, this dude needs to shape up.
As someone who listens to quite a lot of nerdcore music, especially back in the day, this artist saying nerdcore is dangerous is just flatout hysterical
As someone who recently started making semi-nerdcore songs about Rain Code and the Amazing Digital Circus, it's really telling how this guy looks down on nerds like he's some highschool bully who shoves nerds into lockers. A nerd can only be one of the cool kids if they accept that they're a loser and a total dweeby dorkazoid. However, if the nerd is too geniune about their love for a certain media, then they're "entitled" to their art mattering (hence the "cognitive dissonance" that nerdcore artists think their songs have value, YET their songs are about nerdy dorky things like pokemon or anime. A contradiction!) Whats great about nerdcore is that it is part of a greater whole. Most songs are either standalone or connect to the rest of a concept album, but with fan songs, you have the context of an entire series. KittenSneeze made a really cool song exploring another side of a character that wasn't seen in the source material, for instance, and Stupendium made a fun what-if scenario with Tom Nook. With the power of songs, these ideas get to expand into emotional experiences that can be shared. Also, because nerdcore stuff isn't afraid to be "cringey", it allows the listener to lower their guard and be vulnerable. Accepting that a pokemon rap or a my little pony ballad can be art allows you to set aside societal insecurities and just accept the art on a vulnerable and geniune state, and it makes whatever emotions become all the more impactful as you have loosened up and have become a more innocent version of yourself before the status quo beat the dorkiness out of you. One of my favorite musicians is Vylet pony and she almost exclusively makes songs related to my little pony. One of her albums, Cutiemarks, is kind of like a retrospective of the show itself. It contains fun what-if scenarios, but also critiques about some of the show's implications, how the show shaped her as a person, and how it was able to save her life. If nerdy stuff is all just trivial loser stuff, then how could it do something as meaningful as that?
100% true. We Skeem seems to only see Nerdcore as music that can't possibly have any meaning because it's connected to something nerdy and popular, when Nerdcore absolutely can contain meaning and convey messages. Another great example of this is Natewantstobattle's FNAF 4 song "Home", a song about someone feeling broken and depressed behind repair. The song uses FNAF 4's story as a base, borrowing the theme of feeling trapped within your own home, but it has it's own meaning and subject matter that the game doesn't have (that subject matter being depression).
Ngl, despite disagreeing with the message that nerdcore is somehow dangerous I went into the video with an open mind wanting to see it from an unbiased view, this dude's got some of the goofiest takes I've seen in a while lol Can't believe someone would make pokemon sound cool in a rap song, the fate of music and the world as we know it ain't looking good 😔
As someone who regularly listens to nerdcore this is one if the worst takes in it bro i have an entire playlist with just among us and little nightmare songs cuz i thought they were so good and thats not mentioning another playlist i have that has a ton of nerdcore music i love seeing people be inspired by all kinds of different media like games, movies ect... And seeing all the directions people can take it serious or not it is not "dangerous" its people having fun making songs and people listening and finding a community and ive listened to nerdcore songs and been blow away by how good it is
Maybe it’s just me, but this guys rant feels kinda gross. He talks about how needcore fans are “weird kids,” “losers,” and a “minority,” which rubs me the wrong way because I know most nerdcore fans are autistic and neurodivergent people. And again, I don’t wanna just throw stuff like that around, but it feels weird. A lot of us are just people listening to/making songs about songs about our special interests and hyperfixations to cope, but this guy is up in arms about it and how we’re weirdos and that it’s bad for us. And the way he tries to establish that he has experience In psychology before saying that too is strange to me. But again, maybe that’s just how it came across to me. I’m not saying I think he’s ableist or something, I just think it’s kinda weird, but maybe I’m just sensitive.
He is neurodivergent himself. Finds himself somewhere on the autism spectrum. He has mentioned this a few times. He is also the father of at least one neurodivergent kid.
Can we just notice the fact that nerd stuff is like...the biggest IPs and money makers in entertainment today. For a genre about this kind of thing you can't be simultaneously unpopular for the thing you like that also happens to be the most popular thing in the world.
Before i heard about you i didn't even know what Nerdcore was. I used to tell my friends "I listen to video game music" because I didn't know much about music genres, but now i can say "I listen to Nerdcore music".
Hot damn, this is some good old fashioned 1990’s schoolyard bully nonsense. Dude actually woke up one day and thought “Hey, these nerds are starting to think they’re cool-I need to take active time and effort to remind them they’re all losers.” 😂
Two things we can get from this Dean's react 1st - Dean is manacing as things like cigarretes and cancer by doing not goofy little video game music 2nd - If you listen to nerdcore, you are a little weird kid who never go outside touch the grass or something Dont stop listen to nerdcore, lets defense it!
I know this video is somewhat old but thank you for making this video. As someone who used to passively watch his videos, he pretty much labeled himself as a bully and well of exaggerations and misinformation for things he doesn't like or understand. I wouldn't be surprised if he made the video out of jealousy of nerdcore artists who are on a roll right now, seeing how not even a fraction of his own audience watched his video on nerdcore. Thank you for pointing out nonsense like this.
I think the worst thing is that people agree with this guy in the comments. I kinda get why nerdcore isn't on radio but come on. This is still just fun music it shouldn't be seen as bad just because it's not about s*x and drugs. There are actually many nerdcore songs with a deeper meaning about loneliness and love and there are songs like.. Well.. No Exit or Naked and Nasty (Rust Rap). It's a little sad that people see nerdcore music as something bad just because it's different
Yeah, reminds me of recent comments on DA Games’ Build Our Machine saying the song was cringe just because some kid on TikTok danced to it and kinda went on a similar “nerdcore was never good” rant too despite the fact that it’s the main reason Bendy took off the way it did and was itself intended to be a “filler” song while he worked on Turn the Final Page. Also ironic one person brought up TLT’s FNAF songs as good Nerdcore when they were about the same as that song in terms of how they talked about the source material I think Will himself has a good mix of self aware and serious Nerdcore as well as his original Iris songs so idk if this guy would have a problem with him.
Rockit music made some rainbow friends songs for each individual color that you could say has deeper meaning like their blue song you could say is about depression and loneliness for some it's easy to dismiss because they are like rainbow friends cringe but that doesn't mean there isn't more to it
@@redstreak9430 Yeah, those comment threads can be wild rides. Personally, I hate it when I see people say a song is "ruined" because it was on Tiktok or something small like that. Like come on, I get that it may have been cringe to that person, but that doesn't make the song itself lose quality lol.
This guy is completely wrong on everything, even on the rap side of things. JT music, Rockit music, Stupendium, and Dan Bull are amazing nerdcore rappers.
It's funny that he leaves them out too, because JT Music, The Stupendium, and Dan Bull (I don't really listen to Rockit Gaming, so sorry if they also apply to this list as well, I wouldn't know) can make self-aware and goofy songs while still taking their music seriously.
As someone who's main inspiration for trying to start making music (still trying ATM) was nerdcore, his video was just disheartening and unencouraging A music genre doesn't have to strictly be one thing, saying that it does is like saying that a food topping doesn't belong on a food in particular. I get that it's his opinion but he could've at least not make it sound like he was forcing it down people's throats
I tried listening to one of his songs, but the theme is just so all over the place. It's trying to be gangsta rap one minute, then emo rap the next, sticking to an auto tune singing rather than actually rapping. A lot of his bars just don't make sense. He's ok, but, at best sub par. A personal issue for me is that I just don't like how he pans his tracks, but that's just me. He should've NEVER taken shots at Daddyphatsnaps for his gangsta rap angle, because DPS actually went through that kinda shit in his childhood, while this mf is just doing it because it's what is trendy (what was that about cognitive dissonance, We Skeem?). It's ironic with how serious he takes himself and his music despite it's mediocrity and corniness, but then immediately takes shots at others because they aren't doing what he wants. (Also about how nerdcore isn't "mainstream," artists like Eminem indulged in what many people would classify as nerdcore, like with his Venom song, The Living Tombstone has produced for video games and literally has one of their songs in a movie, Joey Nato, someone who has been signed to a few record labels, has made some nerdcore songs and has also featured on a few nerdcore songs, the voice actor for Vocaloid's DAINA and the person who designed Celtic Vocaloid's AVANNA has made a few nerdcore songs, ranging from D&D to Undertale, Boyinaband [we don't talk about him anymore] has made nerdcore songs, JT Music is signed to Rooster Teeth, I mean, nerdcore has always existed in some form in the mainstream). Also that last line of "go make goofy music while making very carefully sure you don't take yourself too seriously, I'll be over here with the cool kids having fun" was a hard and badass line ngl.
Also his tendency to tell artists not to take themselves seriously is not just for nerdcore, it's for basically any artist. But I can't argue with him saying that Tom Macdonald and Adam Calhoun take themselves too seriously because the shit they say is pretty outta pocket and I don't think anyone should take those words seriously.
As someone that listens to nerdcore daily I feel like it doesn't make me depressed, not at all. Actually, it cheers me up from being depressed. I feel like wanting to not be in this world anymore, but until I listen to one nerdcore song I feel like staying here a bit longer. It helped me going through my life as a teenager and with school. My family doesn't take these songs seriously and I can tell, I can take it seriously sometimes but mainly because the songs really speak to me. Like Home by NateWantsToBattle, probably my favorite song from him next to Let Me In. So really, I believe listening to nerdcore can be taken seriously by most of the time not to the point where we compare to other popular songs that the general public listen to.
His take is almost as cringe as someone claiming that someone is not a “real gamer”. I haven’t seen gatekeeping like this since my days on 4chan. Maybe he doesn’t like music that sounds like it was made by the kind of people who probably bullied him for liking nerdy stuff.
This is kinda sad actually, like he thinks nerds should be ashamed of the things they like or something. There’s an insinuation that nerdy things aren’t true art, so by extension, anything related to nerdy things is not true art. I feel like he’s experiencing the cognitive dissonance here, why would you enjoy something and insist it doesn’t count as art? That’s like if an animation fan thought cartoons were only for kids, or a gamer thought video games shouldn’t try to have a story. Also yeah no mention of FNAF? At all? This whole thing is very weird.
I just want to say, on behalf of the entire nerdcore community, the LGBTQ+, the Kroger Rewards Program, the Communist Party, the furry fandom, and the State of Indiana: I'm sorry for being cooler than WeSkeem.
If anything can be a song, why can’t nerdcore be just music? Why can’t someone make a song about anything they want to? Seems quite limiting to have this mindset.
TL:DR Nerds are cringe and the only way to properly enjoy music about nerdy things is to do so through a lens of irony and self deprication as a way to justify liking it without seeming cringe
Yoooo... This is the equivalent of a diss track rap battle but for nerdcore. Both involved just dropping researching, information and knowledge against each other. kinda kewr...
I know nothing about skeemz aside this video... But all I see is a guy saying "Modern Nerdcore causes depression so if you don't want to be depressed stay in the loser side and think that what you like is lame and trash it's healthier" ????
"No pleass guys, don't take it too seriously, we have to hide behind 50 layers of irony so they can't cringe at us noooo" Meanwhile based Nerdcore artists making the muppets sounds badass.
My personal opinion, even though I’m perfectly aware my opinion doesn’t matter much but I’ve always thought of nerdcore as having an inherent sense of positivity to it. It doesn’t have to be childish or corny but I find I prefer it to at least have a sense of positivity to it.
I used to watch a few of his reaction before I even got into anime or nerdcore etc and I always felt like he would just shit on things he didn’t understand without ever giving them a chance I’m glad literally nothing has changed smh
Oh my god, I didn't think I'd ever see someone actually talking about We Skeem and calling him out for his bull crap. He really gives off the vibe in this video like he got burned by the nerdcore scene for so long that he decided to lash out and say "They're the problem, not me!" Not too far off considering the few controversies I know he's been involved with in the past from Cam Steady calling out a video We Skeem had released on Mother's Day discussing some very regressive ideas whilst he hid behind the excuse that his wife said it was ok to put that video out, to his subsequent halt to reacting to Freshy Kanal content just because Dustin took Cam's side and cut Skeem from an upcoming project (to which he responded by trying to portray the situation like Dustin was pressured by his "woke leftist" audience to cut ties with him), to his reaction video for ERB's Mansa Musa vs Jeff Bezos where he had such a gripe with Scru Face Jean that not only did he deliberately cover his face on the thumbnail, apparently (Full disclosure: I have not watched the actual reaction, I'm going off of heresay, please correct me if I'm wrong bere) he basically did not react to any of Mansa's lines, instead dunking on Scru, saying he wasn't being that clever and playing the "ERB writes all the verses, you aren't that talented" card, while turning around and praising the hell out of Jeff's verses (which side note, I think both subjectively and objectively Mansa blew Jeff out of the water in that battle). That last point makes me laugh a bit considering I was there during the one ERB livestream where he got to talk to them and essentially got soft rejected after he tried to promote himself for if they ever needed a masked character for a battle (this was when he was still using his taped mask for branding), so him being mad that another reactor he didn't like got on the show before he did seems on point. I'm definitely a bit biased against him, since I got roped into thinking We Skeem was somehow one of the more credible and thoughtful content creators, but I eventually realized the "I'm better and smarter than you" brand he pushed wasn't just a character he was putting on. I kinda wish more people would start talking about We Skeem so he doesn't keep flying under the radar, especially if he's going to continue promoting bad takes like this under the guise of being a high-level artist and intellect when he just clearly isn't. P.S. I know this didn't have that much to do with what We Skeem was actually talking about in this video, I just have a lot of pent up feelings and thoughts about him despite unsubbing from him years ago.
I attended Nerdcore Party Convention 2024 (where MC Frontalot and Mega Ran performed, along with a whole host of other artists), and I don't think that any of the artists who performed there would agree with this guy. The fans who were in attendance would also disagree with this guy. I have been a fan of Nerdcore for the past 20 years and have never felt that the genre was dangerous or bad for the health of the fans. Nerdcore is a place for all types of people, not everyone is a "weird kid", some are jocks, cosplayers, nerds, Gen-Xer's, metal heads, hip hop enthusiasts etc. etc. I have a sneaking suspicion that this guy is just jealous that his songs and videos are not getting the attention that Nerdcore artists are.
I write songs mostly about databases and other data related themes.... I have written at least 4 songs for Microsoft and other IT companies.... am I nerdcore? #KillaDBA
The fact that people forget that TeamHeadKick's Deadpool song got into the movie not during the credits but during actual screen time is baffling to me. Those two are how I found nerdcore. Throw in NLJ and you have the three that turned my head and got me started down this road I am on today. I can respect this dude has an opinion... I just don't have to give a damn about it.
I've seen this guy's reactions to Daniel Thrasher and found the thought of anything beyond that appalling. This type of take doesn't even slightly surprise me.
Some people are just inane. "You are getting too good, please be less serious on what you do and what you create. You're forgetting it's not art." Excuse me? What in the actual fudge.
The moment he brought up Cognitive Dissonance, I started laughing. This has to be the worst take on a subgenre I've ever seen. Did Lord and Miller not teach us anything these past few years? Subject matter is not defining of the tone of a piece; The Lego Movie and the Spiderverse saga are visible proof of this.
Great video, great take! I don't get what that guys problem is. Genre's evolve and split off, perhaps nerdcore now wants to be taking more seriously, what's wrong with that? As the culture shifts to people having grown up with nerdy stuff they'll start taking it more seriously. I seriously hate irony and nihilism and cynicism. I'm proud to say that I've always taken what I like seriously without irony. As a quick example off the top of my head; I couldn't even like The Room movie with tommy waseu because I don't like it, it's not enjoyable, its not fun, its bad and boring TO ME(to be clear). I didn't ironically like it I thought it was terrible. I don't get on anyone for liking it but it's not for me. I don't want to be in on the joke. There are plenty of things to sincerely enjoy. Society has been inundated with irony and a lack of sincerity for years now. Leave irony, embrace sincerity.
Just so you know, I blame you for the fact that I went to the video, watched it, and spent twenty minutes writing a comment longer than any essay I’ve ever written (no it was not comprised of hate just genuine criticisms/opinions) and am now going to bed at the late, late hour of four o’clock in the morning /J, I did this to myself XD Loved your video though, you made good points/counterpoints
True. Honestly, whenever i listen to Overthrone makes me want to wear the skin of a religious figure and knock on peoples bedroom door. Edattion(?) Nerdcore isn't just limited to a single genre or single idea, that's not what music is. In a way, the way the original video is describing Nerdcore makes it sound like- Nerdcore isn't music. Sure, it's not friggin Beethoven, but neither are 21Pilots, or AJR. You have two real 'requirements' for Nerdcore. Have the song be about a topic thats seen in media. Again, like a TV show or something. Like the topic of something that isn't 'original' to your song or music in general. (Ex. FNaF, The Mandela Catalogue, Super Mario). Doesnt even need to be 'nerdy'. Number two, have it be music. End of discussion.
He's clearly never been in a music class in his life. There's things considered music that just sound like metal pots banging together and chalk on a chalkboard
@khasminthedesertstorm7422 Yeah, he's a stereotypical centrist (not really name-calling. That's really what he considers himself to be). Always thinking they're in a room full of idiots, when in reality, they're the only idiot in the room...
How dare people want to make music that they put time and effort to out of love for a franchise or community...clearly this is what's causing depression. What a joke. The guy who made the original video clearly and obviously just has different tastes in nerdcore, and is trying to justify his own personal preferences using fancy buzzwords and fake credentials to try and get other people to agree with him. Like, jesus dude, just say "I like nerdcore more when it doesn't take itself seriously". Boom. Easy as. You sound like a rational and mature adult who has opinions and is capable of recognising that it's all this is. Hell, at least if you're upfront about it, you might be able to find other people who agree with you on what is, at its core, not an unreasonable thing to say. But my god. "I listened to an anime nerdcore rap and it didn't make me as happy as the goofier ones, clearly this is why everyone has depression". What a joke.
What's wrong wit making fire music about video game stuff or anime? It can be great just like most generes. Nerdcore is pretty big thanks to living tombstone and people like dagames.
We Skeem very clearly has a bias against hip hop, something that originates from black culture, therefore, he is racist. I am able to use this logic because of the logic he used to say that nerdcore is dangerous.
Last I checked Nerdcore hip-hop isn't promoting drug use, gang violence, murders (other than fiction) or gun violence, which is actually dangerous and continues to result in violence and death. Plus it doesn't flex cash, cars, or chains Tbh, I think it's the best thing to happen to hiphop since conscious rap
Nerdcore is a perfectly valid art form, and to say modern Nerdcore artist don’t make “real music” is stupid. My favorite Nerdcore artist rustage made a video with another nerd core artist, shwabadi, that talked about Nerdcore, and how it’s real music, and perfectly fine if you like it. Another thing is many of the Nerdcore songs are about shows that be considered nerdy, but actually deal with serious topics.
Honestly nerdcore has been some of my favorite stuff I've listened to in the mid 2010s- early 2020s. I especially love the ones with lyrics applicable in other places like Will Ryan's Are You Proud of Me Now and all of Living Tombstone's originals. Plus a benefit of Nerdcore is that it creates a deeper respect for an artist's original creations. Will Ryan's Flashdrive helped me get through 2020 mostly due to how encouraging and beautiful it is.
I think it’s just the edgy kind of songs or “I’m 14 and this is deep” kind of nerdcore that I cringe at. But I’m not gonna judge someone for liking it.
You know a guy is full of shit when even he can't explain why the thing he's saying is bad is bad And also the points he makes are eerily similar to things people have said to me especially "not everyone will like this/you so therefore stop being genuine. That's fucked up man
just to say here: don't confuse nerdcore with Nintendocore. they're two completely different terms (nerdcore mostly--but not always--being hip hop, while Nintendocore is sometimes metalcore with chiptune).
Bro I didn’t realise you were a Nerdcore artist, I’ve mainly watched your reactions to Sonic OSTs but as a fellow Nerdcore artist, I respect you adding your opinion into this, you basically said what I woulda said lol
Idk what you mean, Dean, You're Mine is the deepest, most edgy, serious song I've ever heard in my life
OH DEAR GOODNESS
"welcome to my hooker palace"
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"Please don't leave, I have no friends" spoke to me on a personal level.
I will never be able to unhear it ever again.
My music MIGHT be chainsmoking i cant lie
Blackbeard and only the strongest survive are really awesome
That original video made my skin crawl, thank you for dissecting it properly!
Ok, so after watching this video, i can openly say that Nerdcore, in all its entirety, is not a cause of depression, actually quite the opposite as i used a lot of it to break through my depression, and was introduced to artist that i had never even heard of. Rustage, FABVL, heck, even you Solo. And that music has and is still helping me through the darkest time of my life. Songs like DAGames Brace For The Freight Train shows that even small game creators can make something, making me wish i went with that as a job career, JT Music with songs like Night Flyer and Honk If Youre Hungry taking jabs at the stupidity of modern polotics, and even covers of songs with a new coat of paint like Caleb Hyles and Jonathan Young were inspirational on what it allowed. Nerdcore isnt just music, its a comunity, an inspiration to those in low places, heck it was Jonathan Young who inspired me to write my own song for my youtube intro video. It was DA Games that gave me the theme i should go for, and it wad you breaking down details of music that helped me understand what i needed to do to make it alive. This man is a fool, and worse, a confident fool.
This may sound silly but nerdcore may be what saved me from killing myself. Idk 100% for sure (I was kinda in a bad mental place at the time) but those silly little songs about games I liked helped me connect with others who also liked those games
@@GuitarOfTime0116 well i am happy your still here man keep on fighting💪🏾
Also I'm happy you are mentioning that he singles out hip-hop here because, while a massive chunk/entire subsection (or even majority) of nerdcore IS hip-hop (so maybe he's specifically referring to that side when referring to nerdcore), hip-hop already as a genre gets crapped on for "not being real music", and when it does get to be seen as music, it's seen as low-brow or not high art, the same way he sees modern nerdcore. It is so common for people to chalk hip-hop down to sex/drugs/money when 1. A lot of non-hiphop songs are also about those things, and 2. Hip hop is just as capable as being deep and meaningful as any other genre. Even if a hip-hop song isn't trying to be deep, there's nothing wrong with having songs about surface level things, whether it be partying, exercising your status, or pokemon. Party Rock Anthem is just about partying a bunch, yet it still managed to make so many people happy. Why can't hip-hop and nerdcore be seen the same way?
People like him are the reason why we got The Meta Era of Sonic for a while with both the writing and social media presence: “it’s a series about a talking blue hedgehog. Don’t take it seriously.” That’s how we almost got Egoraptor of all people as the Sonic Brand ambassador. Thankfully, with the new Fast Friends Forever direction we’re getting now, we seem to be pivoting back to a healthy mix of taking itself seriously with the occasional self aware joke
And speaking of Sonic and Nerdcore, how about the fact that Nathan Sharp is currently doing songs for stuff like Dragon Ball and Sonic despite having “serious Nerdcore songs” as well as self aware ones. Heck, most of them like Nightmare I can argue could be played on the radio and nobody would think it was a FNAF Nerdcore song at all.
I'd rather not remember the time when Egoraptor was brand ambassador... Mania, Generations, and Colors were pretty good though.
his clear and blatant misrepresentation of psychology is absolutely distasteful, obvious terrible take aside. as someone who has struggled with mental health I can say that is absolutely just not how it works. i was done with him the moment he said "if you're depressed, just stop being sad" in the original video. rage bait or not, this dude needs to shape up.
This was very well put. Thanks for putting this out there
As someone who listens to quite a lot of nerdcore music, especially back in the day, this artist saying nerdcore is dangerous is just flatout hysterical
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As someone who recently started making semi-nerdcore songs about Rain Code and the Amazing Digital Circus, it's really telling how this guy looks down on nerds like he's some highschool bully who shoves nerds into lockers. A nerd can only be one of the cool kids if they accept that they're a loser and a total dweeby dorkazoid. However, if the nerd is too geniune about their love for a certain media, then they're "entitled" to their art mattering (hence the "cognitive dissonance" that nerdcore artists think their songs have value, YET their songs are about nerdy dorky things like pokemon or anime. A contradiction!)
Whats great about nerdcore is that it is part of a greater whole. Most songs are either standalone or connect to the rest of a concept album, but with fan songs, you have the context of an entire series. KittenSneeze made a really cool song exploring another side of a character that wasn't seen in the source material, for instance, and Stupendium made a fun what-if scenario with Tom Nook. With the power of songs, these ideas get to expand into emotional experiences that can be shared.
Also, because nerdcore stuff isn't afraid to be "cringey", it allows the listener to lower their guard and be vulnerable. Accepting that a pokemon rap or a my little pony ballad can be art allows you to set aside societal insecurities and just accept the art on a vulnerable and geniune state, and it makes whatever emotions become all the more impactful as you have loosened up and have become a more innocent version of yourself before the status quo beat the dorkiness out of you.
One of my favorite musicians is Vylet pony and she almost exclusively makes songs related to my little pony. One of her albums, Cutiemarks, is kind of like a retrospective of the show itself. It contains fun what-if scenarios, but also critiques about some of the show's implications, how the show shaped her as a person, and how it was able to save her life. If nerdy stuff is all just trivial loser stuff, then how could it do something as meaningful as that?
100% true. We Skeem seems to only see Nerdcore as music that can't possibly have any meaning because it's connected to something nerdy and popular, when Nerdcore absolutely can contain meaning and convey messages.
Another great example of this is Natewantstobattle's FNAF 4 song "Home", a song about someone feeling broken and depressed behind repair. The song uses FNAF 4's story as a base, borrowing the theme of feeling trapped within your own home, but it has it's own meaning and subject matter that the game doesn't have (that subject matter being depression).
Ngl, despite disagreeing with the message that nerdcore is somehow dangerous I went into the video with an open mind wanting to see it from an unbiased view, this dude's got some of the goofiest takes I've seen in a while lol
Can't believe someone would make pokemon sound cool in a rap song, the fate of music and the world as we know it ain't looking good 😔
Idk man. Open The Chest from DAGames is a certified bop in my opinion.
I love how you used "You're Mine" as the main counter-argument of the "nerdcore takes itself too seriously raaaaaaaaa!!!!!!" point
If Nerdcore is dangerous then Dean is the Music Equivalent of WWII
"if you have to equate taking your music a little more seriously with, dying of lung cancer you might be reaching a little." - best LSE quote
If nerdcore is dangerous, dean is a minefield.
True lmao
and the living tombstone is hell
And DAGames is a whole bomb factory.
the highest of praise 🙏
And dizzyeight is a super Nova
As someone who regularly listens to nerdcore this is one if the worst takes in it bro i have an entire playlist with just among us and little nightmare songs cuz i thought they were so good and thats not mentioning another playlist i have that has a ton of nerdcore music i love seeing people be inspired by all kinds of different media like games, movies ect... And seeing all the directions people can take it serious or not it is not "dangerous" its people having fun making songs and people listening and finding a community and ive listened to nerdcore songs and been blow away by how good it is
Hoo boy. If you thought this was bad, I hope you haven't seen "Why is Modern Music so Awful?" by Thoughty2 😭
Tantacrul’s takedown of that video was the main inspiration for this video.
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Maybe it’s just me, but this guys rant feels kinda gross. He talks about how needcore fans are “weird kids,” “losers,” and a “minority,” which rubs me the wrong way because I know most nerdcore fans are autistic and neurodivergent people. And again, I don’t wanna just throw stuff like that around, but it feels weird. A lot of us are just people listening to/making songs about songs about our special interests and hyperfixations to cope, but this guy is up in arms about it and how we’re weirdos and that it’s bad for us. And the way he tries to establish that he has experience In psychology before saying that too is strange to me. But again, maybe that’s just how it came across to me. I’m not saying I think he’s ableist or something, I just think it’s kinda weird, but maybe I’m just sensitive.
He is neurodivergent himself. Finds himself somewhere on the autism spectrum. He has mentioned this a few times. He is also the father of at least one neurodivergent kid.
One by one, we are converting Dean to a FNaF fan.
Can we just notice the fact that nerd stuff is like...the biggest IPs and money makers in entertainment today. For a genre about this kind of thing you can't be simultaneously unpopular for the thing you like that also happens to be the most popular thing in the world.
You are a treasure in the modern internet age. Thank goodness for your sensible counterpoint to this drivel.
That dude's video reeks of that "Quit having fun" comic
Before i heard about you i didn't even know what Nerdcore was. I used to tell my friends "I listen to video game music" because I didn't know much about music genres, but now i can say "I listen to Nerdcore music".
Ou você pode dizer que escuta música geek
Or you can say you listen to geek music
Hot damn, this is some good old fashioned 1990’s schoolyard bully nonsense.
Dude actually woke up one day and thought “Hey, these nerds are starting to think they’re cool-I need to take active time and effort to remind them they’re all losers.”
😂
Two things we can get from this Dean's react
1st - Dean is manacing as things like cigarretes and cancer by doing not goofy little video game music
2nd - If you listen to nerdcore, you are a little weird kid who never go outside touch the grass or something
Dont stop listen to nerdcore, lets defense it!
"this is some hipster shit" now that's bars 🔥🔥
TL:DR Dude is ashamed of being a nerd himself and could not accept other nerds just enjoying themselves and having a good time.
Damn this was a good watch between my nerdcore listening while I chain smoke
Damn nerds, they ruined nerdcore
the first time ive seen MC Lars ever mentioned holy hell
I know this video is somewhat old but thank you for making this video. As someone who used to passively watch his videos, he pretty much labeled himself as a bully and well of exaggerations and misinformation for things he doesn't like or understand. I wouldn't be surprised if he made the video out of jealousy of nerdcore artists who are on a roll right now, seeing how not even a fraction of his own audience watched his video on nerdcore. Thank you for pointing out nonsense like this.
I think the worst thing is that people agree with this guy in the comments. I kinda get why nerdcore isn't on radio but come on. This is still just fun music it shouldn't be seen as bad just because it's not about s*x and drugs. There are actually many nerdcore songs with a deeper meaning about loneliness and love and there are songs like.. Well.. No Exit or Naked and Nasty (Rust Rap). It's a little sad that people see nerdcore music as something bad just because it's different
Yeah, reminds me of recent comments on DA Games’ Build Our Machine saying the song was cringe just because some kid on TikTok danced to it and kinda went on a similar “nerdcore was never good” rant too despite the fact that it’s the main reason Bendy took off the way it did and was itself intended to be a “filler” song while he worked on Turn the Final Page. Also ironic one person brought up TLT’s FNAF songs as good Nerdcore when they were about the same as that song in terms of how they talked about the source material I think Will himself has a good mix of self aware and serious Nerdcore as well as his original Iris songs so idk if this guy would have a problem with him.
Rockit music made some rainbow friends songs for each individual color that you could say has deeper meaning like their blue song you could say is about depression and loneliness for some it's easy to dismiss because they are like rainbow friends cringe but that doesn't mean there isn't more to it
@@redstreak9430 Yeah, those comment threads can be wild rides. Personally, I hate it when I see people say a song is "ruined" because it was on Tiktok or something small like that. Like come on, I get that it may have been cringe to that person, but that doesn't make the song itself lose quality lol.
Why did he take it so seriously, its just music about my favourite games and interests, how is it that serious to him???
This guy is completely wrong on everything, even on the rap side of things. JT music, Rockit music, Stupendium, and Dan Bull are amazing nerdcore rappers.
It's funny that he leaves them out too, because JT Music, The Stupendium, and Dan Bull (I don't really listen to Rockit Gaming, so sorry if they also apply to this list as well, I wouldn't know) can make self-aware and goofy songs while still taking their music seriously.
The ticking time bomb hairy potter thing🤔forgot that existed
Hey! I will have you know that pictures of spiderman by stupedium is a very edgy, serious song!
As someone who's main inspiration for trying to start making music (still trying ATM) was nerdcore, his video was just disheartening and unencouraging
A music genre doesn't have to strictly be one thing, saying that it does is like saying that a food topping doesn't belong on a food in particular.
I get that it's his opinion but he could've at least not make it sound like he was forcing it down people's throats
I tried listening to one of his songs, but the theme is just so all over the place. It's trying to be gangsta rap one minute, then emo rap the next, sticking to an auto tune singing rather than actually rapping. A lot of his bars just don't make sense. He's ok, but, at best sub par. A personal issue for me is that I just don't like how he pans his tracks, but that's just me.
He should've NEVER taken shots at Daddyphatsnaps for his gangsta rap angle, because DPS actually went through that kinda shit in his childhood, while this mf is just doing it because it's what is trendy (what was that about cognitive dissonance, We Skeem?). It's ironic with how serious he takes himself and his music despite it's mediocrity and corniness, but then immediately takes shots at others because they aren't doing what he wants.
(Also about how nerdcore isn't "mainstream," artists like Eminem indulged in what many people would classify as nerdcore, like with his Venom song, The Living Tombstone has produced for video games and literally has one of their songs in a movie, Joey Nato, someone who has been signed to a few record labels, has made some nerdcore songs and has also featured on a few nerdcore songs, the voice actor for Vocaloid's DAINA and the person who designed Celtic Vocaloid's AVANNA has made a few nerdcore songs, ranging from D&D to Undertale, Boyinaband [we don't talk about him anymore] has made nerdcore songs, JT Music is signed to Rooster Teeth, I mean, nerdcore has always existed in some form in the mainstream).
Also that last line of "go make goofy music while making very carefully sure you don't take yourself too seriously, I'll be over here with the cool kids having fun" was a hard and badass line ngl.
Also his tendency to tell artists not to take themselves seriously is not just for nerdcore, it's for basically any artist. But I can't argue with him saying that Tom Macdonald and Adam Calhoun take themselves too seriously because the shit they say is pretty outta pocket and I don't think anyone should take those words seriously.
As someone that listens to nerdcore daily I feel like it doesn't make me depressed, not at all. Actually, it cheers me up from being depressed. I feel like wanting to not be in this world anymore, but until I listen to one nerdcore song I feel like staying here a bit longer. It helped me going through my life as a teenager and with school. My family doesn't take these songs seriously and I can tell, I can take it seriously sometimes but mainly because the songs really speak to me. Like Home by NateWantsToBattle, probably my favorite song from him next to Let Me In. So really, I believe listening to nerdcore can be taken seriously by most of the time not to the point where we compare to other popular songs that the general public listen to.
His take is almost as cringe as someone claiming that someone is not a “real gamer”. I haven’t seen gatekeeping like this since my days on 4chan. Maybe he doesn’t like music that sounds like it was made by the kind of people who probably bullied him for liking nerdy stuff.
This is kinda sad actually, like he thinks nerds should be ashamed of the things they like or something. There’s an insinuation that nerdy things aren’t true art, so by extension, anything related to nerdy things is not true art. I feel like he’s experiencing the cognitive dissonance here, why would you enjoy something and insist it doesn’t count as art? That’s like if an animation fan thought cartoons were only for kids, or a gamer thought video games shouldn’t try to have a story. Also yeah no mention of FNAF? At all? This whole thing is very weird.
I just want to say, on behalf of the entire nerdcore community, the LGBTQ+, the Kroger Rewards Program, the Communist Party, the furry fandom, and the State of Indiana: I'm sorry for being cooler than WeSkeem.
If anything can be a song, why can’t nerdcore be just music? Why can’t someone make a song about anything they want to? Seems quite limiting to have this mindset.
Sometimes you can't stand by and say nothing, especially when the take is so bad. Nerdcore forever! 🤘
TL:DR Nerds are cringe and the only way to properly enjoy music about nerdy things is to do so through a lens of irony and self deprication as a way to justify liking it without seeming cringe
Yoooo...
This is the equivalent of a diss track rap battle but for nerdcore.
Both involved just dropping researching, information and knowledge against each other.
kinda kewr...
in my opinion, modern nerdcore has become like a musical for nerdy things, because they sing in character
I know nothing about skeemz aside this video... But all I see is a guy saying "Modern Nerdcore causes depression so if you don't want to be depressed stay in the loser side and think that what you like is lame and trash it's healthier" ????
If nerdcore is dangerous, then I really am a demon lmao
"No pleass guys, don't take it too seriously, we have to hide behind 50 layers of irony so they can't cringe at us noooo"
Meanwhile based Nerdcore artists making the muppets sounds badass.
Oh gosh… I’ve seen this person’s Daniel Thrasher reactions back when he did those but yikes, what’s with these opinions?
🔥🔥🔥 all of this
My personal opinion, even though I’m perfectly aware my opinion doesn’t matter much but I’ve always thought of nerdcore as having an inherent sense of positivity to it. It doesn’t have to be childish or corny but I find I prefer it to at least have a sense of positivity to it.
I used to watch a few of his reaction before I even got into anime or nerdcore etc and I always felt like he would just shit on things he didn’t understand without ever giving them a chance I’m glad literally nothing has changed smh
This the best commentary on the subject I’ve seen
Oh my god, I didn't think I'd ever see someone actually talking about We Skeem and calling him out for his bull crap. He really gives off the vibe in this video like he got burned by the nerdcore scene for so long that he decided to lash out and say "They're the problem, not me!" Not too far off considering the few controversies I know he's been involved with in the past from Cam Steady calling out a video We Skeem had released on Mother's Day discussing some very regressive ideas whilst he hid behind the excuse that his wife said it was ok to put that video out, to his subsequent halt to reacting to Freshy Kanal content just because Dustin took Cam's side and cut Skeem from an upcoming project (to which he responded by trying to portray the situation like Dustin was pressured by his "woke leftist" audience to cut ties with him), to his reaction video for ERB's Mansa Musa vs Jeff Bezos where he had such a gripe with Scru Face Jean that not only did he deliberately cover his face on the thumbnail, apparently (Full disclosure: I have not watched the actual reaction, I'm going off of heresay, please correct me if I'm wrong bere) he basically did not react to any of Mansa's lines, instead dunking on Scru, saying he wasn't being that clever and playing the "ERB writes all the verses, you aren't that talented" card, while turning around and praising the hell out of Jeff's verses (which side note, I think both subjectively and objectively Mansa blew Jeff out of the water in that battle). That last point makes me laugh a bit considering I was there during the one ERB livestream where he got to talk to them and essentially got soft rejected after he tried to promote himself for if they ever needed a masked character for a battle (this was when he was still using his taped mask for branding), so him being mad that another reactor he didn't like got on the show before he did seems on point.
I'm definitely a bit biased against him, since I got roped into thinking We Skeem was somehow one of the more credible and thoughtful content creators, but I eventually realized the "I'm better and smarter than you" brand he pushed wasn't just a character he was putting on. I kinda wish more people would start talking about We Skeem so he doesn't keep flying under the radar, especially if he's going to continue promoting bad takes like this under the guise of being a high-level artist and intellect when he just clearly isn't.
P.S. I know this didn't have that much to do with what We Skeem was actually talking about in this video, I just have a lot of pent up feelings and thoughts about him despite unsubbing from him years ago.
So his main point basically is "Nerdcore shouldn't be like how it is today because it's my personal preference, and I'm gonna bullshit up some proof"
Nerdcore is not that dangerous, and you proved him wrong for that! :D
I attended Nerdcore Party Convention 2024 (where MC Frontalot and Mega Ran performed, along with a whole host of other artists), and I don't think that any of the artists who performed there would agree with this guy. The fans who were in attendance would also disagree with this guy.
I have been a fan of Nerdcore for the past 20 years and have never felt that the genre was dangerous or bad for the health of the fans.
Nerdcore is a place for all types of people, not everyone is a "weird kid", some are jocks, cosplayers, nerds, Gen-Xer's, metal heads, hip hop enthusiasts etc. etc.
I have a sneaking suspicion that this guy is just jealous that his songs and videos are not getting the attention that Nerdcore artists are.
I write songs mostly about databases and other data related themes.... I have written at least 4 songs for Microsoft and other IT companies.... am I nerdcore? #KillaDBA
I have a deep liking of JT Music and TeamHeadKick’s original and current music
The fact that people forget that TeamHeadKick's Deadpool song got into the movie not during the credits but during actual screen time is baffling to me. Those two are how I found nerdcore. Throw in NLJ and you have the three that turned my head and got me started down this road I am on today. I can respect this dude has an opinion... I just don't have to give a damn about it.
@@khaos298 exactly, JT music and TeamHeadKick are how I found nerdcore too. TeamHeadKick is coming with a new album soon too
I've seen this guy's reactions to Daniel Thrasher and found the thought of anything beyond that appalling. This type of take doesn't even slightly surprise me.
Some people are just inane.
"You are getting too good, please be less serious on what you do and what you create. You're forgetting it's not art."
Excuse me? What in the actual fudge.
He also used your favorite martian as if they have never created song. That was supposed to be taken seriously.
The moment he brought up Cognitive Dissonance, I started laughing. This has to be the worst take on a subgenre I've ever seen. Did Lord and Miller not teach us anything these past few years? Subject matter is not defining of the tone of a piece; The Lego Movie and the Spiderverse saga are visible proof of this.
Bro, I have huge depression and one of the only things that helps is nerdcore. What is this bro yallkng about 😭
How was
THIS NEEDS TO BE A NEICH THING AND NOT POPULAR
To him a serious argument
That dude really treating Nerdcore like the Black Plague. 💀
Great video, great take! I don't get what that guys problem is. Genre's evolve and split off, perhaps nerdcore now wants to be taking more seriously, what's wrong with that? As the culture shifts to people having grown up with nerdy stuff they'll start taking it more seriously. I seriously hate irony and nihilism and cynicism. I'm proud to say that I've always taken what I like seriously without irony. As a quick example off the top of my head; I couldn't even like The Room movie with tommy waseu because I don't like it, it's not enjoyable, its not fun, its bad and boring TO ME(to be clear). I didn't ironically like it I thought it was terrible. I don't get on anyone for liking it but it's not for me. I don't want to be in on the joke. There are plenty of things to sincerely enjoy. Society has been inundated with irony and a lack of sincerity for years now. Leave irony, embrace sincerity.
7:19 damn what the snake do to you my guy 😆
Just so you know, I blame you for the fact that I went to the video, watched it, and spent twenty minutes writing a comment longer than any essay I’ve ever written (no it was not comprised of hate just genuine criticisms/opinions) and am now going to bed at the late, late hour of four o’clock in the morning
/J, I did this to myself XD Loved your video though, you made good points/counterpoints
True. Honestly, whenever i listen to Overthrone makes me want to wear the skin of a religious figure and knock on peoples bedroom door.
Edattion(?)
Nerdcore isn't just limited to a single genre or single idea, that's not what music is. In a way, the way the original video is describing Nerdcore makes it sound like- Nerdcore isn't music. Sure, it's not friggin Beethoven, but neither are 21Pilots, or AJR. You have two real 'requirements' for Nerdcore.
Have the song be about a topic thats seen in media. Again, like a TV show or something. Like the topic of something that isn't 'original' to your song or music in general. (Ex. FNaF, The Mandela Catalogue, Super Mario). Doesnt even need to be 'nerdy'.
Number two, have it be music. End of discussion.
As a matter of fact, Skeem himself has actually said that he doesn't consider nerdcore to be "real music."
Do with that what you will :)
He's clearly never been in a music class in his life.
There's things considered music that just sound like metal pots banging together and chalk on a chalkboard
@khasminthedesertstorm7422 Yeah, he's a stereotypical centrist (not really name-calling. That's really what he considers himself to be). Always thinking they're in a room full of idiots, when in reality, they're the only idiot in the room...
The “nerdcore is dangerous” argument is so dumb, it’s probably gonna make me dumber than the guy who made the argument.
How dare people want to make music that they put time and effort to out of love for a franchise or community...clearly this is what's causing depression. What a joke. The guy who made the original video clearly and obviously just has different tastes in nerdcore, and is trying to justify his own personal preferences using fancy buzzwords and fake credentials to try and get other people to agree with him. Like, jesus dude, just say "I like nerdcore more when it doesn't take itself seriously". Boom. Easy as. You sound like a rational and mature adult who has opinions and is capable of recognising that it's all this is. Hell, at least if you're upfront about it, you might be able to find other people who agree with you on what is, at its core, not an unreasonable thing to say. But my god. "I listened to an anime nerdcore rap and it didn't make me as happy as the goofier ones, clearly this is why everyone has depression". What a joke.
Very good points on this
This guyis if 'Source:I made it the fuck up was a person'
HAHAHAHAHA
I LOVE "YOU'RE MINE" SONG SO BAD🔥
like... "welcome to my hooker palace" got me🔥
What's wrong wit making fire music about video game stuff or anime? It can be great just like most generes. Nerdcore is pretty big thanks to living tombstone and people like dagames.
We Skeem very clearly has a bias against hip hop, something that originates from black culture, therefore, he is racist.
I am able to use this logic because of the logic he used to say that nerdcore is dangerous.
Last I checked Nerdcore hip-hop isn't promoting drug use, gang violence, murders (other than fiction) or gun violence, which is actually dangerous and continues to result in violence and death. Plus it doesn't flex cash, cars, or chains
Tbh, I think it's the best thing to happen to hiphop since conscious rap
"Nerdcore is bad mu-"
Stfu im listening to Open the Door
Its just some boomer complaining that x was better back in my day with no actual evidence
Don't forget the MLP fan-songs, would be nothing without Glaze (WoodenToaster) and The Living Tombstone
Nerdcore is a perfectly valid art form, and to say modern Nerdcore artist don’t make “real music” is stupid. My favorite Nerdcore artist rustage made a video with another nerd core artist, shwabadi, that talked about Nerdcore, and how it’s real music, and perfectly fine if you like it. Another thing is many of the Nerdcore songs are about shows that be considered nerdy, but actually deal with serious topics.
Honestly nerdcore has been some of my favorite stuff I've listened to in the mid 2010s- early 2020s. I especially love the ones with lyrics applicable in other places like Will Ryan's Are You Proud of Me Now and all of Living Tombstone's originals. Plus a benefit of Nerdcore is that it creates a deeper respect for an artist's original creations. Will Ryan's Flashdrive helped me get through 2020 mostly due to how encouraging and beautiful it is.
I made a video on the same topic as well. Most of his video feels like an insane level of selection bias when talking about nerdcore.
I think it’s just the edgy kind of songs or “I’m 14 and this is deep” kind of nerdcore that I cringe at. But I’m not gonna judge someone for liking it.
Well said
Dean, as always u r the light at the end of the tunnel
Yall need to listen to dizzyeight his nerdcore music is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Oh also pureojuice is heat.
I dissagree with nearly everything that guy said
Bro should listen to venom by DPS and tell me how its ANY different from Venom by Eminem
Jesus Christ, never thought i hear this lmao
yo i just want to point out that you forgot to put the link to his video in the description which some people might take in the wrong way
I think he didn't do that because he doesn't want a bunch of his subs taking it to the extreme by going to his comments and or channel to harass him.
@@OrangeJuiceAddictCantGeometry that makes sense
I mean, he also said the comment saying "so nerdcore gives people anxiety" was, while a bit of an oversimplification of his point, "basically true"
You know a guy is full of shit when even he can't explain why the thing he's saying is bad is bad
And also the points he makes are eerily similar to things people have said to me especially "not everyone will like this/you so therefore stop being genuine.
That's fucked up man
...wow. I'm just impressed, honestly.
just to say here: don't confuse nerdcore with Nintendocore. they're two completely different terms (nerdcore mostly--but not always--being hip hop, while Nintendocore is sometimes metalcore with chiptune).
I do wanna say. Are all fan songs nerdcore? If not, how would you classify non-nerdcore fan songs?
you are the best longestsoloever2
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