The way I see it, Solidus was more of an anti-villain. Some people might confuse him as an anti-hero, but an anti-hero is usually selfish, like, he might do the right thing, but only for his own personal gain or interest. Like Kratos in the first 3 God Of War games. He does the right thing, but only out of vengeance, and he sacrifices innocent lives along the way without a care. An anti-villain is more like a bad guy with good intentions. His ultimate goal is a noble one, but his methods of achieving it are questionable, like sacrificing innocent lives for the greater good and whatnot. Solidus is by no means selfish, he wants to free everybody from the patriot's control, but his methods are indeed questionable.
Not all anti-heroes are selfish. A link that explains all aspects of an anti-hero to prove my point. ruclips.net/video/ZpABx1NOIX0/видео.html That being said, I do agree that solidus is more anti villain
Alex Wesker Skull Face, the [lalilulelo] and the Winds of Destruction. They're the only true villains in the Metal Gear series (except Volgin) as far as I know.
Liquid's story is too complicated, so I dunno Armstrong wanted to make people free of government so they could "make their own decisions, fight their own wars" or something like that. Who the fuck is Coldhand Skullface thought that he realised The Boss's will. So he wanted to unite the planet in a very fucked up way, but still.... But Volgin was like "XAXAXAXA, I'M EVIL, I WILL BOMB AMERICA!!!!"
I think he meant Hot Coldman. Skullface is 100% a dick obsessed with his childhood trauma and willing to cause a genocide, the Boss's vision was just an excuse and a way to troll Zero.
Not even a mention of John Cygan's death? He did a wonderful job voicing Solidus, and he sure as hell won't be forgotten by fans of the series. His acting brought emotion and deep thought to many people, May he rest in peace
I always hear theories that Solidus was lying about killing Raiden's parents personally, to motivate him to fight harder since he already lost to the Patriots anyway.
@@nicholassulfaro1727 no. The nanomachine or whatever that was mentioned is making a case for AI. In essence, Raidon in this case, needs to figure out who he is and create his own belief system of sorts. Even Snake points this out And not be controlled to simply follow orders. #opinion.
I never thought of any character as good or evil. Simply doing what he or she thought, even if manipulate and controlled An example is of the shadow government or their notion or idea of The Patriots. Essentially the game hints at what is meant by Freedom and who controls such ideologies. Even the characters in the game question at some point, who they are, Raidon for example. Snake was the only one, who had a clear understanding of who he is. Maybe Kojima and Co made it this way.
Killing Raiden's parents sounds villainous. But, it's unclear if they were enemy combatants. He did spare Raiden, after all, which implies he wouldn't kill children. Then there's the killing of Olga. But in that case she was a traitor siding with the Patriots. Yes, I know. She had no choice, because they took her child. But that wasn't really Solidus's problem. I think George was a true patriot and hardened by war and his own traumatic origin. Not a nice guy, but people shaped by war rarely are. Knowing the Patriots were the actual villains, it's hard to think him as a complete villain.
I believe he wouldn't kill children because he wanted to pass his memes on to them, whereas its much harder to do that with an adult since they have already formed their beliefs and morals. If anything, Solidus is just like Armstrong: To fight for your own freedom, no matter what it takes. You can't necessarily blame the antagonists of MGS for the mess throughout the games since, they are being controlled by the patriots.
Why the hell would enemy combatants have there child with them the more then likely case is Solidus just killed two innocent people just so he could see if he fucked up because of his upbrining or beacuse he was naturally that way
The thing is...Raiden is white. Almost all, if not the majority, of Liberian people are African. So his parents were either immigrants or something similar. So, he probably just killed them for a reason we don't know.
Solidus is the embodiment of "In order to achieve your dreams, you sometimes need to get your hands dirty". Him and Armstrong would had been great friends xD
Not for me because Armstrong have a very extreme version of Liberty where the strongest (with raw power, money...) will shape the world and won't be stopped by laws or social convention for their will be created by them. If you want the law to be on your sides be stronger than them (that how i see it) While Solidus was mostly freedom for all (and armstrong system doesn't guarantee freedom if you don't have the strengh or money to secure it). So both probably won't agree. And fight on the top a Metal Gear.
@@desolatortrooper7196 Metal Gear has this great, fantastic ability to make every character (or damn near) have the exact same goal/motivation, but have just a slight difference in perspective of how to acheive said goal or what said goal actually means, that just about as many characters are the same are also so vastly different that they’ll never truly agree with each other on principle It’s really, really good how much thought went into the idealogical beliefs of the different characters in play within the story
No they wouldn't have. Armstrong is a piece of shit social Darwinist while Solidus wants freedom for ALL. Solidus embodies what America could have and should have been: a country of TRUE freedom. Armstrong just wants the strongest to survive while they destroy the innocent "weak".
@@desolatortrooper7196 How about a match between former president Solidus and Senator Armstrong where they each pilot a Metal Gear, happening in a "what if" timeline where Solidus didn't die?
solidus wanted society to stay the same just without the patriots' control, armstrong wanted to burn down society as a whole and create a world where only the strong willed could live. major difference.
Was i supose to sing the la-li-lu-le-lo part in my head or? Cause i did . Old mcdonald had a farm La li lu le lo Snake god cuffed up by a thot La li lu le lo Raidens parents sadly killed, and with hatred his heart filled La li lu le *patriots*
Because Jack is really just Degurechaff after a sex change, and because the song talks about the destruction on the battlefield being something to revel in or something. Or because it looked cool in the intro.
He did not actually lol he wouldn’t follow such a close minded racist bigot. He did however say fuck the patriots and want to change America back to the way it was before they took control
None of the Snakes were ever villains, they were all just antagonists. Solid, working for the Patriots, whether knowingly or not, was simply the antagonist to Venom, Liquid, Big Boss, etc. Even Liquid, the least sympathetic of the lot, was acting in the best interests of the majority, even if it was at the cost of a minority.
@@kittenchopper4646 Kind of? David, a.k.a. Solid Snake, is the main protagonist of half the series, so the first two Metal Gear games, the first Metal Gear Solid game, the opening portion of MGS 2, all of MGS 4, and the 2 hour long prequel to MGS 5. The other half of the series you're playing as someone else.
I love how Metal Gear has that kind of absurde bravado that makes everything so memorable and interesting, wich gives it a place in the hearts of thousands of people.
He was a villain, easily, but he made a lot of good points and his heart was in the right place. If he wasn't so crazy with his child soldier stuff and using others as pawns him and Snake would have probably been on the same side (they basically do what Solidus aimed to do years later anyway).
In a lighter take on this video's obvious criticism, you could just say La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo yourself instead of just using the same voice clip. It would make the joke at least a little less repetitive, and make more sense within the MGS universe since the phrase "La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo" is spoken naturally.
He is an anti villain. A villain with noble ideals or purposes. Sure, he's a piece of shit sometimes, but he puts liberty above everything else. HE is the actual patriot. Team Solidus all the way.
No, anti-villain is a villain who think who is the hero from is perspective, not a villain with noble purpose. An example is Magneto from X-Men, from the her perspective he is the Jesus Christ of Mutant, but is wrong because he is a radical suprematist.
11:31 It's so annoying how they removed the American flag from this game. You can kind of see how Raiden was supposed to cut down the flag and allow it to cover solidus' body as he died.
Honestly that’s what venom snake should have ended up being the third son aka his dad using him which would fit perfectly of how big boss feels about his clones I would have accepted the end of MGS5 TPP so much more with open arms with a blown awesome satisfaction mind if this happened but NOPE we get someone who literally had really no big lore impact of the over all stretched out timeline with really no character because avatar ugh 🤦🏽♂️ yeah no thanks I don’t play games to project myself in it but to be interested and invested into fiction character.
@@thatjrpganimefanplayerjusi8003 Before locations and a lot of other info was revealed during MGSV's build up before release, I was hoping V was actually Solidus in Liberia and maybe some other new events to expand on his backstory.
Jebediah O'malley Then why did he picked up the gun? showing hes more willing to save his broken little ego than to preserve his nation? why did he killed his own men and citizens? why did he let Love Train go on since it was erasing parts and people of his country? Besides there was nothing to show that there was something wrong with the US to begin with, he wanted to fix a problem that didn't existed at all
Why would he let the alternate Diego take the corpse then and go on about how he didn't want the corpse falling into the hands of a non-american. He also built that bunker beneath Trinity church and told Diego to take it there so he obviously wanted it to help America even if he died. The corpse would also cause things of bad fortune to go away from the USA so it would be making america a better place. He wasn't trying to fix a problem, he was just trying to make America greater. He took that gun because he couldn't be sure if Johnny would believe him.
Solidus was probably the best actual hero Metal Gear had. I killed him only one time for the story, after that I never wanted to kill him again. They should have let players join him or spare him.
You missed 2 opportunities at the end to annoy me more. This was a really good video that i learned a few things from so thank you for that but god damn man just call them The Patriots. It was funny the first couple of times but towards the end of the video i almost left.
I KNEW i heard that shi somewhere before lol; comments need to chill on it, it was turned way down. only prob with this vid is how many times he repeats the group name.
Solidus is as much a bad guy as the Boss was, or Big boss, hell even Solid Snake. I think Eli managed to be the closest to an actual bad guy, and we all know that Liquid had his own motivations that cast his actions in a different light.
soldius was a pretty cool character with a very good voice actor. too bad the later games pretty much never mention him or give him any other backstory (although rising does but in a sort of weird way)
oh yeah, im considering playing zone of the enders but i wanna know do i have to play both of the games to get the full story context or is it enough from the second game. i heard the first game was pretty subpar
If you're going to play the port version, I would suggest getting the PS3 HD copy and download the new update for it. The first game is pretty subpar but the game is relatively really short so I recommend you play that first. You don't really have to play the first game but it's very useful to grasp what world ZOE really is and some information that occurred in the first game really build up the moment in the second game. But you don't have to.
I have a soft spot for ZoE but it isn't nearly on the same level as Metal Gear. Kojima is great at what he does and he's my favorite video game man but ZoE's only good if you're into the gameplay - the story is style over substance and I feel like the series died before it really had the chance to blossom like Metal Gear did. (this is coming from a big fan of both games btw)
Wait... I thought Sodomy Snake and Dr. Octogon were collecting South American Queen Bees and knife fishing with Robert Ossalot and Walker Gear Texas Ranger?
Mostly. The main villains are usually given enough backstory to understand and sympathize with why they're doing what they're doing. Sub-villains unfortunately don't always get the same treatment outside of maybe MGS2, and Skullface doesn't stack up to the rest but I'm willing to excuse that on the grounds of the production of MGSV being a fucking mess. But yeah on the whole you're generally right
Yes hes a villian. The man kidnaps and enslaves children and then makes them fights wars. That's pretty much the worst thing you can do. That's a step right beneath holocaust
I agree with most of what you said, hes not a good person, but I do think he's a villain. He worked towards an understandable goal with ruthless methods and no remorse He's a villain imo
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He's Snake, he's Snake, you're Snake, I'm Snake! Are there any other Snakes I should know about?!
*camera centers on Venom Snake*
I'm a Snake too!
Kept you waiting huh?
"It all began with a bunch of old fools. Now they've all passed away, their era of folly is over."
Solidus, Solid, Liquid, Big Boss, Venom, And Liquid Ocelot, man it took me a long time to understand all this shit with clones and nanomachines, son!
The way I see it, Solidus was more of an anti-villain. Some people might confuse him as an anti-hero, but an anti-hero is usually selfish, like, he might do the right thing, but only for his own personal gain or interest. Like Kratos in the first 3 God Of War games. He does the right thing, but only out of vengeance, and he sacrifices innocent lives along the way without a care. An anti-villain is more like a bad guy with good intentions. His ultimate goal is a noble one, but his methods of achieving it are questionable, like sacrificing innocent lives for the greater good and whatnot. Solidus is by no means selfish, he wants to free everybody from the patriot's control, but his methods are indeed questionable.
Not all anti-heroes are selfish. A link that explains all aspects of an anti-hero to prove my point.
ruclips.net/video/ZpABx1NOIX0/видео.html
That being said, I do agree that solidus is more anti villain
@@tylergonzales8946 not always selfish, but usually
Han Solo also started out as an anti-hero. I agree with you that anti-heroes are usually selfish and are usually roped into doing the right thing.
Wolverine is an anti hero, he’s not selfish. I can name many more. Being selfish isn’t an overall thing for anti heroes.
@@Lion-O-Richie2040 that's why I said usually
Raiden has a knack for facing villains with extreme yet understandable beliefs.
Yeahs and somehow there all high
On american spirit
@@Jesus_Offical It wasn't his first time killing a politician, but if he gets his way, it won't certainly be his last.
@@Jesus_Offical and their source is that they made it the f*ck up
He also has a knack for fighting US politicians that can somehow summon hellfire
Sundowner is the most relatable
Ocelot: are you a real villain?
Solidus: technically nah
Btw were there any villains besides Volgin?
Alex Wesker
Skull Face, the [lalilulelo] and the Winds of Destruction. They're the only true villains in the Metal Gear series (except Volgin) as far as I know.
Alex Wesker Well about Liquid, Senatetor Armstrong, Coldhand, and Skullface? They seem pretty straightforward villianous.
Liquid's story is too complicated, so I dunno
Armstrong wanted to make people free of government so they could "make their own decisions, fight their own wars" or something like that.
Who the fuck is Coldhand
Skullface thought that he realised The Boss's will. So he wanted to unite the planet in a very fucked up way, but still....
But Volgin was like "XAXAXAXA, I'M EVIL, I WILL BOMB AMERICA!!!!"
I think he meant Hot Coldman. Skullface is 100% a dick obsessed with his childhood trauma and willing to cause a genocide, the Boss's vision was just an excuse and a way to troll Zero.
the [lalilulelo] aren't villains, their target was to unite the world through world dominance. Well, that's one way to do it
Solidus: Do you know what day it is?
Raiden: Why the fuck does everyone keep asking me that?
LA-LI-LU-LE-LO
Not even a mention of John Cygan's death? He did a wonderful job voicing Solidus, and he sure as hell won't be forgotten by fans of the series. His acting brought emotion and deep thought to many people,
May he rest in peace
Holy shit, I didn't even know he died.
Get off your high horse dude death isnt a piece of trivia
it's about Solidus not Cygan
He also played the Mandalorian warrior and eventual Mandalore in the Knights if the Old Republic games.
R.I.P.
I always hear theories that Solidus was lying about killing Raiden's parents personally, to motivate him to fight harder since he already lost to the Patriots anyway.
So, Solidus doesn't want us to buy Shimoneta: A Boring World Where the Concept of Dirty Jokes Doesn't Exist?
Blame the 「La Li Lu Le Lo」for censoring it
Meti 'Not The Bad Guy' the PARTIOTS were destroyed in MGS4
Something something nano-machines. Something something military industrial complex. Something something don't worry about it.
@@nicholassulfaro1727 no. The nanomachine or whatever that was mentioned is making a case for AI.
In essence, Raidon in this case, needs to figure out who he is and create his own belief system of sorts. Even Snake points this out
And not be controlled to simply follow orders.
#opinion.
Because Freedom
Finally someone shows some love for Solidus Snake
I never thought of any character as good or evil. Simply doing what he or she thought, even if manipulate and controlled
An example is of the shadow government or their notion or idea of The Patriots.
Essentially the game hints at what is meant by Freedom and who controls such ideologies. Even the characters in the game question at some point, who they are, Raidon for example.
Snake was the only one, who had a clear understanding of who he is.
Maybe Kojima and Co made it this way.
@Shiva R Don't forget Skull face, he wanted to kill hundreds of millions just because they spoke english
Killing Raiden's parents sounds villainous. But, it's unclear if they were enemy combatants. He did spare Raiden, after all, which implies he wouldn't kill children. Then there's the killing of Olga. But in that case she was a traitor siding with the Patriots. Yes, I know. She had no choice, because they took her child. But that wasn't really Solidus's problem.
I think George was a true patriot and hardened by war and his own traumatic origin. Not a nice guy, but people shaped by war rarely are. Knowing the Patriots were the actual villains, it's hard to think him as a complete villain.
I believe he wouldn't kill children because he wanted to pass his memes on to them, whereas its much harder to do that with an adult since they have already formed their beliefs and morals. If anything, Solidus is just like Armstrong: To fight for your own freedom, no matter what it takes. You can't necessarily blame the antagonists of MGS for the mess throughout the games since, they are being controlled by the patriots.
Pretty sure he DID kill children, during the Liberian Civil war.
Why the hell would enemy combatants have there child with them the more then likely case is Solidus just killed two innocent people just so he could see if he fucked up because of his upbrining or beacuse he was naturally that way
The thing is...Raiden is white. Almost all, if not the majority, of Liberian people are African. So his parents were either immigrants or something similar. So, he probably just killed them for a reason we don't know.
@@madworldfan123 Maybe they were people who were helping the side Solidus was fighting in the war. Diplomats, missionaries. Something like that.
stop making me want to replay metal gear again
I'm already doing it ;)
lol i've played all of them over and over again and am still learning more
^ that game was fire. Even if it was like 2001
I was just think about playing it
Solidus is the embodiment of "In order to achieve your dreams, you sometimes need to get your hands dirty".
Him and Armstrong would had been great friends xD
Not for me because Armstrong have a very extreme version of Liberty where the strongest (with raw power, money...) will shape the world and won't be stopped by laws or social convention for their will be created by them.
If you want the law to be on your sides be stronger than them (that how i see it)
While Solidus was mostly freedom for all (and armstrong system doesn't guarantee freedom if you don't have the strengh or money to secure it).
So both probably won't agree.
And fight on the top a Metal Gear.
@@desolatortrooper7196 Metal Gear has this great, fantastic ability to make every character (or damn near) have the exact same goal/motivation, but have just a slight difference in perspective of how to acheive said goal or what said goal actually means, that just about as many characters are the same are also so vastly different that they’ll never truly agree with each other on principle
It’s really, really good how much thought went into the idealogical beliefs of the different characters in play within the story
No they wouldn't have. Armstrong is a piece of shit social Darwinist while Solidus wants freedom for ALL. Solidus embodies what America could have and should have been: a country of TRUE freedom.
Armstrong just wants the strongest to survive while they destroy the innocent "weak".
@@desolatortrooper7196 How about a match between former president Solidus and Senator Armstrong where they each pilot a Metal Gear, happening in a "what if" timeline where Solidus didn't die?
solidus wanted society to stay the same just without the patriots' control, armstrong wanted to burn down society as a whole and create a world where only the strong willed could live.
major difference.
Rip his voice actor he will be remember just like he wanted
That moment you realize Kojima was warning us about what we would discover two decades later.
Yeahs and we dont have Super soldiers to stop the la le lu le lo
Solidus Snake is Metal Gear's Funny Valentine.
Except Solidus actually cared for his country and not his ego
+sebastian feijoo Shut up Valentine did nothing wrong
+ CubedPotatoesHD More like he did nothing right
So does that make Raiden the MGS version of Johnny by extenstion? Or is there a better counterpart comparison to use?
Funny Valentine is Jojo's Solidus Snake
Solidus Snake is the perfect anti-hero.
He's a bit more like a well-intentioned extremist.
isn't there something called "anti-villain"
@@duroorud527 Yes, and I’d say Solidus fits that role.
Here's a snake, there's a snake, everywhere's a snake, snake!
Old McDonald has a farm, La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo!
LOL
*Good one Soldier*
LOL
Was i supose to sing the la-li-lu-le-lo part in my head or? Cause i did . Old mcdonald had a farm
La li lu le lo
Snake god cuffed up by a thot
La li lu le lo
Raidens parents sadly killed, and with hatred his heart filled
La li lu le *patriots*
Mcdonell Miller
Thank you for pointing out the genius of Solidus' character. He's still my favorite villain of all time for all these reasons and more.
The music really brings down the video why didn't u use metal gear music
It's probably copyrighted
Because Jack is really just Degurechaff after a sex change, and because the song talks about the destruction on the battlefield being something to revel in or something. Or because it looked cool in the intro.
MGS doesnt really fit well when your talking over it lol i youtube myself & have tried to use MGS music a few times ...... or copyright
It makes it sound like a YMS video.
@-- ow awsome really , i will have to check that out myself for videos
Solidus Snake said, "Make America Great Again", without saying the phrase.
He did not actually lol he wouldn’t follow such a close minded racist bigot. He did however say fuck the patriots and want to change America back to the way it was before they took control
@@ogpimpwildin6897 Yeah he only installed child slavery, but he'd never be a bigot
@@venividi8523 before or after he was done being a patriot puppet though? Lol didn’t see child slaves on the tanker
@@ogpimpwildin6897 please provide at least one example of Trump being a "racist bigot". I'll wait.
@@ogpimpwildin6897 never see.trump being racist or bigot
Solidus just wanted to be remembered, instead he was just half a torso and gut used as a decoy and then burned
None of the Snakes were ever villains, they were all just antagonists. Solid, working for the Patriots, whether knowingly or not, was simply the antagonist to Venom, Liquid, Big Boss, etc. Even Liquid, the least sympathetic of the lot, was acting in the best interests of the majority, even if it was at the cost of a minority.
Ain't solid the main character of the majority of the mgs games?
@@kittenchopper4646 Kind of? David, a.k.a. Solid Snake, is the main protagonist of half the series, so the first two Metal Gear games, the first Metal Gear Solid game, the opening portion of MGS 2, all of MGS 4, and the 2 hour long prequel to MGS 5. The other half of the series you're playing as someone else.
That's what Kojima wanted to portray. Being a controlled by the "bad guys" while being seen as a protagonist.
@@pugfugly1989 in MGS 5 prequel you play as naked snake
@@pearan You only play as Big Boss in Ground Zeroes. You play as Venom Snake in MGS5.
I love how Metal Gear has that kind of absurde bravado that makes everything so memorable and interesting, wich gives it a place in the hearts of thousands of people.
He was a villain, easily, but he made a lot of good points and his heart was in the right place. If he wasn't so crazy with his child soldier stuff and using others as pawns him and Snake would have probably been on the same side (they basically do what Solidus aimed to do years later anyway).
Keep in mind he was no more than teenaged and then early 20s when he was leading child soldiers. It's not like he wasnt brainwashed, too.
First in-depth analysis of Jojo's, and now Metal Gear? This channel just keeps getting better!
Wish we could get a redo of this one without the Patriot Protection Meme being in place the whole time
In a lighter take on this video's obvious criticism, you could just say La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo yourself instead of just using the same voice clip. It would make the joke at least a little less repetitive, and make more sense within the MGS universe since the phrase "La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo" is spoken naturally.
La-li-lu-le-lo
Shut up i'll never get bored of that la li lu le lo
Its soo grim, right?
It was so annoying
@@MorganMoogle That and the weeaboo music on the background. Very well researched essay, tho.
He is an anti villain. A villain with noble ideals or purposes. Sure, he's a piece of shit sometimes, but he puts liberty above everything else. HE is the actual patriot. Team Solidus all the way.
No, anti-villain is a villain who think who is the hero from is perspective, not a villain with noble purpose. An example is Magneto from X-Men, from the her perspective he is the Jesus Christ of Mutant, but is wrong because he is a radical suprematist.
nah i dont like murder of innocents
@@jmgonzales7701 I do!
u crazy @@SweetTeaConnoisseur
11:31
It's so annoying how they removed the American flag from this game. You can kind of see how Raiden was supposed to cut down the flag and allow it to cover solidus' body as he died.
If they ever do another MGS game I would love to play as Solidous Snake
Honestly that’s what venom snake should have ended up being the third son aka his dad using him which would fit perfectly of how big boss feels about his clones
I would have accepted the end of MGS5 TPP so much more with open arms with a blown awesome satisfaction mind if this happened but NOPE we get someone who literally had really no big lore impact of the over all stretched out timeline with really no character because avatar ugh 🤦🏽♂️ yeah no thanks I don’t play games to project myself in it but to be interested and invested into fiction character.
@@thatjrpganimefanplayerjusi8003 Before locations and a lot of other info was revealed during MGSV's build up before release, I was hoping V was actually Solidus in Liberia and maybe some other new events to expand on his backstory.
It was ridiculous to hope for, and I never expected it to be true, but god I have always wanted a game about Solidus.
Unfortunately the original voice actor died it wouldn’t be the same
Jesus christ, Just say Patriots.
This La-li-lu-le-lo bit got old the minute it was introduced.
I was saying 「La Li Lu Le Lo」what did you hear?
Not physically possible.
Salad-in not scientifically possible
Salad-in oof
Bro are you dumb he was saying LA LI LU LE LO like c'mon get ur act together
The opening image is inaccurate. That's Jim Houseman, the secretary of defense. Shinkawa's rendition of George Sears is gray and appears in MGS2.
Thank you! I was hoping I wasn't the only one, looks alot like big boss though, so I can understand the confusion to be fair
If it was up to me, I would say that Solidus Snake is more of an "anti-villain" or "well-intentioned extremist" than a true "bad guy".
That lalelulelo joke got old the first 3 times
"you never did like the french" Big Boss Venom Snake to Ocelot. Omg me and Ocelot have allot in common, this makes me love him even more!
I'm French and I don't like Frenchs either.
@@LuxPostNoctem Yes, not even french like french, I'm not alone is this, lol
Solidus just wanted to make America great again, just like funny valentine
No
Valentine gave zero fucks about his country
It was all to feed his ego and messiah complex
sebastian feijoo That is objectively wrong.
Jebediah O'malley
Then why did he picked up the gun? showing hes more willing to save his broken little ego than to preserve his nation? why did he killed his own men and citizens? why did he let Love Train go on since it was erasing parts and people of his country?
Besides there was nothing to show that there was something wrong with the US to begin with, he wanted to fix a problem that didn't existed at all
Why would he let the alternate Diego take the corpse then and go on about how he didn't want the corpse falling into the hands of a non-american. He also built that bunker beneath Trinity church and told Diego to take it there so he obviously wanted it to help America even if he died. The corpse would also cause things of bad fortune to go away from the USA so it would be making america a better place. He wasn't trying to fix a problem, he was just trying to make America greater. He took that gun because he couldn't be sure if Johnny would believe him.
valentine needed death. Gyro is too good
Reminds me of that weird kid in school who gets some attention telling a joke, then proceeds to repeating it until he looks even worse than before.
Imma be straight up:
I liked Solidus more than the other clones
What if in MGS 6, Solidus was reincarnated as a loli German soldier?
I for one think So'loli'dus Snake -Chan is a great character and has a great story arc.
Also sorry for bringing you back after so long lol.
So'loli'dus calls Solid and liquid "onichan" uwu
yeah you I know what game I’m getting after MGS5 comes out (not V, that already came out a while back)!
Are you fucking serious?
Fucking off yourself you Sick Bastard.
Solidus was probably the best actual hero Metal Gear had. I killed him only one time for the story, after that I never wanted to kill him again. They should have let players join him or spare him.
imagine a stand alone Metal Gear Solidus game
I want a Cobra Unit Prequel.
Oh Solidus is remembered by the world... in the form of the Sears program
You know, I seem to take Solidus's actions as good reasons to fight against all that is corrupt
The plot was a fourth wall breaker. basically, this is a game.
You missed 2 opportunities at the end to annoy me more. This was a really good video that i learned a few things from so thank you for that but god damn man just call them The Patriots. It was funny the first couple of times but towards the end of the video i almost left.
3 years later and you’re still a jerk off for thinking anyone should speak the way you want
watching solidus is hilarious everytime he looks around even slighly he almost cuts out his eye with the collar armor
Killing Olga for no good reason is the moment I stopped pitying Solidus. That move was cold, cruel, and spiteful.
At least she had warm armpits
I mean, she did betray him
Did this man actually put the Tanya the evil theme in the background of a video talking about solidus snake
I KNEW i heard that shi somewhere before lol; comments need to chill on it, it was turned way down. only prob with this vid is how many times he repeats the group name.
This character had a serious impact on my life, and he is very close to me. Thank you for putting content out there that does his character justice.
the LA LI LU LE LO joke gets a little old fast where I didn't even want to continue watching. Take it easy there.
Alvin Inoncillo dude it’s annoying after the first 3 times
I loved it
Solidus is as much a bad guy as the Boss was, or Big boss, hell even Solid Snake.
I think Eli managed to be the closest to an actual bad guy, and we all know that Liquid had his own motivations that cast his actions in a different light.
**Laughs in Volgin, Skullface, Sundowner, and the rest of the Winds of Destruction besides Jetstream Sam**
Every time he says the la li lo le lo it sounds like he's having a stroke
Why not just say The Patriots, I get it's not as cool sounding but...
*la li lu le lo
I don't know what you mean, I said 「La Li Lu Le Lo」 What did you hear?
Nevermind I'm probably hearing things.
*censured by la-li-lu-le-lo
this is honestly a really good video.
good job.
I wonder who would win in an election between George Sears and Stephen Armstrong
Nanomachines, son. That's who wins
Curious question anyone know the name of the song playing in the background starting at 0:26?
my dude you ran that lalilulelo effect to the GROUND, chill out it’s not that funny
Take a shot every time he says "LA LI LU LA LO".
La Li Lu Le Lo
2:43 You forgot 9/11, which canonically happened, presumably in 2001, during Solidus’s presidency.
Your videos are so good Meti, even if i'm not into the Metal Gear Solid I really liked it.
Never played a metal gear game but loved your explanation. I wasn't lost and could follow the story very easily. Thanks!
soldius was a pretty cool character with a very good voice actor.
too bad the later games pretty much never mention him or give him any other backstory
(although rising does but in a sort of weird way)
I guess its to symbolize the victory of patriots over him, he wanted to be remembered, but the patriots took away that chance from him
Asking if an antivillain is really a villain is as ridiculous as asking if an antihero is really a hero
I literally beat this game yesterday and I can already quote most of solidus’s speech
I'm very curious if you ever got into Zone of the Enders since you really adore Kojima's and Araki's mind.
oh yeah, im considering playing zone of the enders but i wanna know do i have to play both of the games to get the full story context or is it enough from the second game. i heard the first game was pretty subpar
If you're going to play the port version, I would suggest getting the PS3 HD copy and download the new update for it. The first game is pretty subpar but the game is relatively really short so I recommend you play that first. You don't really have to play the first game but it's very useful to grasp what world ZOE really is and some information that occurred in the first game really build up the moment in the second game. But you don't have to.
I have a soft spot for ZoE but it isn't nearly on the same level as Metal Gear. Kojima is great at what he does and he's my favorite video game man but ZoE's only good if you're into the gameplay - the story is style over substance and I feel like the series died before it really had the chance to blossom like Metal Gear did. (this is coming from a big fan of both games btw)
Does no one realize that a lot of the "villains" in mgs aren't actually villains.
And the "good" guys aren't good guys neither
@@malik87breaker solid snake is good, raiden is good as well.
@@jmgonzales7701solid sure raiden is questionable but his heart is in the right place
whats questionable about raiden? also most villians in mgs are real villains even liquid and the other snakes are villains @@rajatariq8888
what is the song used in the background of this video?
Wait... I thought Sodomy Snake and Dr. Octogon were collecting South American Queen Bees and knife fishing with Robert Ossalot and Walker Gear Texas Ranger?
Actually no villian in Metal Gear is really a villian
Killtrobal Vamp, Fatman, volgin,
^ skull face
Mostly. The main villains are usually given enough backstory to understand and sympathize with why they're doing what they're doing. Sub-villains unfortunately don't always get the same treatment outside of maybe MGS2, and Skullface doesn't stack up to the rest but I'm willing to excuse that on the grounds of the production of MGSV being a fucking mess. But yeah on the whole you're generally right
Man, Solidus must *_REALLY_* hate Article 13
Solidus got done the worst from the brothers yeah Liquid died and “possessed” Ocelot but Solidis died had his body reused quite saddening
Hey meti, do you think you could do a video on punished venom snake?
I miss the old intro where you open a drink
You should do a video on how ocelot is the main character of the series not the Snakes
What song is the one on the back ground? I feel like i have heard it before
9:36 well damn, just dropped that info on him no warning, no regret or mercy... just a casual BTW 😂 thats really monstrous
Yes hes a villian. The man kidnaps and enslaves children and then makes them fights wars. That's pretty much the worst thing you can do. That's a step right beneath holocaust
just like armstrong! lol
0:00 that's... Jim Houseman, the ex-secretary of defense
needs to quit using that while referencing solidus
This game has everyone asking questions. It was like 2001
Great stuff is timeless
bro whats the anime theme used in this video i just can't remember
The background audio is just so terrible.
Named my absolute favorite cat that I ever had Solidus, he's was a rather sneaky lil $#!+ too, quite the ambush artist. 🤣
What’s the song at the beginning from it sounds familiar
Solidus is the most under-rated character in the franchise. It would have been really cool to get a prequel game with him.
Did you make this video because of John Cygan's death?
It was part of it
must be a work of an enemy stand.
7:13 "It's your anniversary you inconsiderate ass. IDK why that poor girl puts up with you"
dang it! came back to watch this on April 29th! should've waited 1 more day
wow this is a lot of information I just took in I must be halfway done by now.... oh I'm only 4 minutes in....LALELILALO
Solidus was always my hero of the MGS series.
So that's what Solidus means.
That picture in the very beginning is not solidus, it's Jim Houseman. He's the minister of the department of the defense.
BEST ANTAGONIST
Nope, Solid and Raiden we're the bad guys, their plans we're always backed by the patriots, ocelot knew this so he use that information against them
Great video!
Hey great video man please do more
I agree with most of what you said, hes not a good person, but I do think he's a villain. He worked towards an understandable goal with ruthless methods and no remorse
He's a villain imo
The ends justify the means
“The road to hell is paved with good intentions”
#solidussnakedidnothingwrong
I find it odd how they didnt have "vape snake/vapor snake." When i become a Green beret, God willing. Thatll be me.