Helpful tip: Don't use the 5.56 'Green Tip' for home defense. Those M855 penetrator rounds are designed to go THROUGH things. Including your home's walls and walls of your neighbor's house.
Green tip is hot trash. It's a mild steel core and m193 does even better when it comes to barrier penetration and terminal ballistics. They went to green tip because of the horrific wounds the 55gr was doing out of the m16 in nam.
Not to worry my bedroom door faces my back yard which is a huge hill and 30 rounds of m855 is exactly what they getting. Also ya it helps penetrate but what m855 does that a fmj won't is fragmenting, even if it hits dry wall it will definitely kill someone on the other side but just that 1 wall has broken the bullet into small pieces and they are not going to keep going through multiple walls. So if you're target isn't immediate on the other side of the barrier m193 is better.
@@SoranoGuardias If that's you then go ahead if you like that extra peace of mind. I've only purchased .223 Wylde exclusively for a number of years now (maybe 9-10 rifles) and mostly PSA uppers with both PSA and FN barrels with 1:7 twist. Some have been a little more accurate than others (all 16 or 18 inch) but all have worked very well with both .223 and 5.56 ammo. Anyway, that's what I've experienced, and PSA does offer a lifetime guarantee on what they make.
Excellent point with getting 5.56 AR. 5.56 has a higher chamber pressure threshold making the lower pressure of the 223 easily handled. 223 Wylde chambered AR 15 is designed to fire both 5.56 & 223.
Ya I seriously doubt any of that will matter at the range this would be happening. Also 300 blk would without a doubt be a better choice for home defense and there is plenty of 300 blk that's nearly as spicy as 5.56 if you're actually concerned about the power.
You are incorrect about the pressure rating. The difference is in the the throat design and length. The 5.56 chamber has a longer throat to accommodate special military ammo. The .223 throat is designed for typical hunting bullet profiles. Shorter throats also usually mean the barrel has a higher likelihood of being more accurate. The .223 Wylie is another throat design that works with all the military ammo and offers better accuracy when shooting .223 in it.
@@briangc1972 well you arnt wrong but neither is he, .223 tops out at 55k psi and 5.56 goes up to 62k psi. The pressure is the main difference, the brass they use is identical but chambers are made differently. .223 will be the most accurate, 5.56 will give you the most extended barrel life and wylde is a combination of the 2 however wylde is not as good as .223 with accuracy and cant take the abuse of 5.56, it is the best of both worlds but not as good as either one at the individual thing.
@@whatsmolly5741 There is a video explaining the testing procedure for the pressures. It is assumed that the military uses the same SAAMI test procedure, but they do not. As a result, the military test yields higher pressure readings of the exact same load on the exact same barrel. That is why many people think the 5.56 has a higher pressure curve, though it is the same.
@@briangc1972 ............ the max load data for 5.56x45 m855 using ramshot tac is 26.2 grains. The max .223 load for the m855 using ramshot tac is 25 grains..... it's the single defining feature as all other dimensions are the same.
I just use standard issue M193 for both practice and home defense. It’s cheaper and once it hits flesh it’ll tumble around and do as much damage as a hollow point anyway
If you miss it doesnt matter what round you use it will go through a 2x4 and several layers of drywall. No such thing as magic bullet that will kill somebody but somehow know to slow down when coming into contact with wood. However if you don't miss critical defense is probably the only 223 round that reliably won't continue with enough energy to kill someone on the other side of the wall
I use Hornady .223 critical defense. Watching a ballistic gel test, the bullet practically turned to dust and some fragments only a couple inches into the gel
Local Police Department carry these as there duty round comes highly recommended he even mentioned the Hornady Tap rounds which are like a polymer tip like the VMaxx
@Rick Korralus I live in Central Michigan and The Dunham's store just got loaded up on hunting rounds for 9mm and big calibers like 308 and 30.06 but they are from 35 a box and up. Hopefully the market gets flooded and prices come down. Either that or the ammo manufacturers know something we don't
Additional info: -55 Gr 5.56 FMJ fragments, tumbles and/or yaws when hitting a liquid target (bad guy) starting around 2500 fps. You can achieve this with short barrels like 10.5", but longer barrels get even better velocity. 16" barrels are guaranteed to be devastating. Long barrels turn practice FMJ into home defense rounds. -if you run shorter barrels, look into 77gr BTHP from Black Hills or Frontier. Those fragment at lower velocity, pack a mean punch and are very accurate. They're more costly but are more consistent with energy transfer from shorter barrels. - a 5.56 that fragments is very unlikely to hit someone behind the target with lethal force but can still be a concern. This is the case with any bullet worth it's weight in self defense application. You must always be cognizant of what is beyond your target, no matter the platform.
@@William0zero0 level III is defeated by regular FMJ 55 Gr You unfortunately will have a difficult time punching through a proper level 4 plate with even green tips, they can take a lot of abuse. That being said, the pelvis is highly effective shot placement against plate users In Terraria of course
@@Visual217 55 grain FMJ only defeats level III steel plates, it won't penetrate ceramic or UHMWPE. Green tips will defeat level III UHMWPE, but not steel or ceramic. Level IV? Yeah as you said, just shoot somewhere else.
For me 556 wise im using 62 Gr Green tip or Hornady 75 gr match BTHP white box and the grey superformanse! Shoots beautifuly through my 16 inch 1/8 twist PSA barrel facts
My home defense set up is a custom built AeroPrecision 5.56 AR pistol with a 10.5 barrel, Dead Air suppressor and VMax ammo. Everyone in my house knows how to use it .
Personal preference is the speer gold dot 62g bonded jacket soft point. Those things expand near instantly and don't generally exit the body with any energy left I use the same round on deer and does massive internal damage to heart and lungs. That's why it's the most common fbi round. Get hit go down.
Not sure it’s a common round for any tactical unit but I could be very wrong on that. I do know sp ammo in a semi-auto is very iffy and some guns will not run it well. A single or follow up shot hunting round doesn’t equal a good home defense round. I don’t trust it.
@@brandonjordan2516 research the round, it's Speers version of federal fusions msr hunting round. Nearly identical in every way. And yes it's a self defense and hunting round great for whitetail and smaller animals.
@@JamesSmullins Except for velocity of the load. Any testing I could find on speer's soft points generally show their velocities are comparatively mild from short barrels for some reason. Only the 55grain gold dot and the federal fusion MSR seem to not lose disproportionate amounts of velocity from barrel lengths under 14.5". Finding the .223 MSR loads was like finding hen's teeth for several months. Heavier .223 speer rounds get 2200-2300at the muzzle from shorter barrels.
@@mghegotagun I load my own and for a 16 barrel and load data puts it around 2900 fps. I haven't gotten a chrono yet to verify but based on shooting them it's pretty close.
2:12 ... The polymer tip doesn't aid in expansion. It's to improve the ballistic performance as the round travels through air (a properly formed bullet is better in the air than one with an exposed hollow point). Also, frangible ammunition can have penetration issues, as well as the lighter weight bullet can shift POI from POA. Additionally, the lighter rounds can cause cycling issues in semi-automatic firearms. Most self-defense experts do not really recommend frangible ammunition for self defense. Frangible are for shooting steel targets. Personally, I'd recommend a solid copper expanding bullet from Defiant Munitions (TCX), Gorilla Ammunition (.223 Self Defense), or Corbon (DPX) ... or Speer Gold Dots.
Agreed. I use a .223 55 Grain Speer Gold Dot Soft point in my rifle. At home defense ranges you will get plenty of expansion and pentation into the target with that round. Out of my 11.5" barrel I clock the rounds at around 2600ish FPS.
Designed for short-range defensive situations, a new breed of FTX® bullets are at the forefront of the Critical Defense® Rifle ammunition line. The bullet’s patented Flex Tip® not only helps keep the nose cavity free from clogging as it passes through heavy clothing but also helps the bullet expand at low velocities. Straight from the site.
@@Army12Bravo236 yeah, a site set up to market their bullets. There's a vast difference between a marketing claim (what you quote above) and what happens in the real world. Look at real world tests, and ... well ... physics. The only claim that is true is that the tip keeps something else from getting in the cavity. But, consider in that statement they admit that something getting in the cavity pre-expansion hinders expansion ... yet the tip is in the cavity. There's the inherent problem. They are banking on that tip coming out at impact. Often, though, it gets mashed down into the cavity and hinders expansion. This is why a majority of defensive rounds recommended by experts *do not* have any kind of rubber tip on the end.
The polymer tip DOES aid expansion , it ensures the hollow point does not get filled with clothing or another barrier and still expands., in addition to aiding in accurracy same as HST technology.
I was just at the gun store asking if they had ammo good for someone defending their condo. I don't want my bullets going through the wall. The guy two condos down had to discharge his weapon and one of the rounds went straight into the neighbors condo. A young couple and their two young daughters were in the room when it happened. It got me thinking about this a lot. I have no problem taking the life of a thug in defense of my life, but if I were to ever accidentally hit a family... I couldn't live with my self. Flangeble ammo is exactly what I need. Great videos BTW.
ALL rounds that pass the FBI standard gel test also penetrate 4-5 interior (drywall) walls! The solution is to shoot at safe trajectories/angles. Get some training!
I use my tried and true Gravity Hammer for home defense. I did 4 tours on Reach and can say it gets the job done. Worked great on small game like grunts and big game like Brutes.
I still prefer a pistol for home defense.An AR is very loud when used indoors people! I would also use soft tip ammo if pushed to use it for home defense. A farm or ranch would be an example of when an AR would come in handy in MHO.
Like the intruder would care how loud his weapon of choice would be! Try shooting a large caliber pistol .38, .357mag, .40 cal, .44mag, or .45 cal indoors and compare it to the noise level of an AR .556 round, there's hardly any difference indoors, and who's gonna be concerned about the noise level from a gun when you're confronting a intruder that's broke into your home, that'd never cross most people's mind, in fact most people would be having a adrenaline rush from hell when confronting an intruder, especially at night in the dark or in a secluded area, and when it comes to a possible life and death situation when confronting another person with a gun, the amount of noise that your gun may make will be the least of things going through your mind at the time.
My choice is the 300 blackout in a 10.5 inch barrel using Hornady vmax 110 grain hand loads with a muzzle velocity around 2200fps providing muzzle energy around 1200 foot pounds
@@michaelmckinney5954 i shoot subs also like you said its fun and it is viable option for self defense, the 110 grain offers much more foot lbs. of energy giving much more kinetic damage, do a search on RUclips for Gerand Thumb 300 blackout. he did a great workup on bullet weights vs barrel length and is a reliable source of information. ruclips.net/video/4VNl7QXykUY/видео.html
About 2 month's ago A cougar was trying to kill a new calf of mine so I shot it 23 times with 50 grain 223 hornady ballistic tips. I was not impressed. It ran about 280 yds total before dieing. After hitting it 2 times it turned off the calf and ran straight towards me so I worked its chest over then at about 22 yds away it turned broadside to me and I worked its lungs over then it climbed a fence and I hit it between the front shoulders in the spine and it ran another 50 yards before dieing. The cougar was about 150 lbs. I shot a 25 lb coyote earlier that morning and 1 shot tipped it over. I am now stepping up to 64 grain spire points and will see how that works. 50 to 55 grain ballistic tips have worked well for me on coyotes out to 450 yds. I felt the 50 grain hornady ballistic tips expanded to fast for good penitration on the cougar.
I don't agree with the 55 grain opinion for any ar15 with a barrel less than 20 inches in length. The shorter the barrel the heavier bullet you will want to use. I suggest hollow point 77 grain. They are great for any distance!
If you're gonna use FMJ 5.56, use Winchester M193 5.56. That is real deal, very hot Lake City military ammunition. It gets very good velocities so it will break up more and transfer more energy making it the best option when considering passthrough.
Amazing video! My issue is that I live in a condo, so I'll need to purchase a can. The tax on suppressors is so stupid: I want to be able to defend myself, not at the expense of my hearing!
I thought about getting a 9 mm short ar that's considered a pistol I think so I can practice more because ammo is cheaper. Already have 2,000 rounds for my pistol. Does that make sense?
For home defense, no, not if "over" penetration is a concern for you. 9mm sub guns were got dropped by swat teams BECAUSE they would penetrate more than 556 inside of homes. The lighter and faster 556 rounds dump energy faster.
Jerry Miculek did an experiment about this very thing. Concentrating primarily on the over penetration aspects. The lighter the bullet, the less possibility of over penetration, even out of a longer barrel. I reccomend a 32-38 grain bullet, and a rifle with a 10.3-16 inch barrel. Personally, I use a 300blk, suppressed, with sibs,but that's me.
I have 2 ar pistols by my bed, one is .300 blk, and loaded with subsonics, no suppressor yet, but .300 subsonic is ballistically a twin to .45 acp. smaller hole but more rounds than any .45 pistol. with a suppressor it would be indoor hearing friendly and still able to get the job done. i have hunting rounds loaded in the 5.56 pistol, hit a center mass area and the bullet should dump most if not all its energy in the target helping to cut down on over penetration.
I prefer 77 gr OTM/SMK because they penetrate at least 12 inches. Most of the rounds mentioned in the video do not penetrate 12 inches in ballistic gelatin. The FBI created that standard because not every shot is an open shot to the chest. You might have to shoot through an attackers arms or you maybe on the ground and have to shoot up through the attackers torso. Regardless, the FBI created the 12 inch standard for good reason. The video also goes on about over penetration. I have target stands made of 1/4" plywood. If you just shoot a rifle in my field the bullet will almost go out of sight before it hits the ground. But if you hit the plywood the bullet hits the ground in a very short distance. I am not talking about an AR-15 I am talking about a 308 or even a mighty 300 win mag. We all have seen videos about 5.56x45 penetration usually the bullet goes to pieces in very short order in gelatin. Even if the bullet does pass through there is not going to be much left of it and it is not going to have much energy. Other than police shootings, it is very seldom a stray bullet does any damage in self defense shooting.
If you have a 1 in 7" twist rate in your AR can you effectively fire a 40grain round? Maybe at home defense short distances, it does not matter but always been told not to shoot smaller than 55grain out of my AR. Also, I have been warned to not have any boutique ammo as a prosecutor can make the claim you were out to kill someone because of the ammo you use, vs standard 55 or 62-grain ammo. Should that be a concern when using frangible ammo?
I personally don't think frangible ammo is smart for anything other than steel targets. I run 1:7 barrels exclusively and they'll shoot anything up close. My groups start to get a bit wider with anything lighter than 55g. The 1:7 seems to really, really like the 62g rounds I usually run. Back in the day I heard that faster rifling could spin a light round apart but I don't think it's an issue with today's better ammo. I'm a big fan of the 62-70 grain in the 1:7. It seems to do everything pretty well. With that said, I dump everything through it. A Wylde chambered 1:7 is, in my opinion, the most useful general purpose set up. And as far as the lawyer, unfortunately they're going to make any round you use sound terrible. A FMJ is reckless because it can go through things, a hollow is evil because it does too much damage, etc. As far as lawyers are concerned, I think anything that says "self defense" on the box would probably sound better to a jury. Their lawyer can say all they want, and your lawyer gets to say "he's a responsible gun owner that bought ammo specifically labeled for self defense."
Well that’s when you claim you were only trying to stop him, not kill him. If you’re shooting defense ammunition and not extreme penetration type stuff , just my opinion but you should be ok! I use 62 grain Underwood Controlled Chaos. It just dumps its energy immediately if you hit what you’re aiming at! Best Ammo I’ve found
Personally I'd rather not use an AR inside my home unless suppressed with subsonic ammo. I keep my AR ready as a standoff tool for outside the home. I do have a dedicated AR standard capacity mag charged with 35-45gr. Varmint rounds traveling at 3,500-3,900 fps at the muzzle. and staggered with 42gr. Frangible ammo. I use my PCC loaded with 147gr 9mm +P and 124gr. +P Speer Gold Dot and Federal HST. My experience tells me that the AR is super loud with a blinding muzzle flash inside any structure. My PCC for home defense is a CZ Scorpion with a MagPul 35 round mag loaded as mentioned previously. Know your impacts at the different ranges in your home. Remember sight over bore on 3-10 yard potential engagements. My PCC is load inside my home. Keep your AR for outside purposes loaded with heavy 5.56x45mm in the 69-77gr. OTM or ballistic tip ammo. Hope this helps anyone. Semper Fi and Spiritus Invictus my fellow Americans.
I keep some Winchester silver tip in my bedside AR. It seems to do good. I have a 2 story and all the kids bedrooms are upstairs so over pen isn’t a huge issue for me.
@ James Cole, the Winchester Balistic Silvertip .223 55gr is what I mainly use for deer hunting in my AR-15 and sometimes I use the Hornady 60 gr V-Max. I also have the Winchester Ballistic Silver Tip 150gr .308 cal for my AR-10 that's a deer stopper from hell and it's great for Elk as well. Lol
First go choose 300 blackout for home defense over 5.56. It allows you to have a ton of stopping power with a very short barrel length ideal for CQC. 5.56 is an amazing cartridge, but it is not ideal for home defense in the home. The problem is 5.56 loses most of its amazing features when you chop down the barrel. Unfortunately, in CQC want a short barrel.
The 5.56 will over penetrate less than 300 blackout in almost every instance. Also, if we are talking about fragmentation with standard military loadings, your target will not be far enough for the velocity to matter(can increase distance greatly with 77gr.)The only reason to choose 300 blackout over 5.56 is if you want something with a barrel less than 10 inches and or you want to shoot subsonic.
I mean that genuinely depends on a lot of things. If you have a room to hunker down in barrel length isn’t going to be an issue. If you have little ones on a different floor you have to go get and take to a safer place then I guess barrel length might come into play a bit more. There’s a reason most trainers advise against solo room clearing etc. But at the end of the day it’s all about what works best in your situation.
I used the 40, 55 & 60 grain V-Max, (Ballistic Tip), Hornady, Freedom Munitions, and Fiocchi ammo in my Colt AR-15 M4 rifle for every type of predator and or varmint in my neck of the woods and when you put a round anywhere within the torso area or main part of the body, one round will do the job, regardless of the weight or grain, I've also killed deer at 75 yards using the 60 grain V-Max and dropped them in their tracks using my AR-15, so there's no doubt that the V-Max round would be a good home defense round, with the exception if the intruder is wearing body armor then the V-Max will be useless unless you go for a head shot. A soft hollow point round is also a good defense round as well.
Would you recommend this ammo for a 11.5 in barrel? I’m new to all this but I wasn’t the best I can get in a short package without breaking the bank on 300blk
I keep a Colt M-4 6940 MOE on my side of the bed. I generally use Federal Fusion .223 62 grain. Having something that expands should reduce of risk to my neighbors should I have use it on top of giving a better wound channel.
Trying to find something that won't go through my home's block walls but still have good terminal performance. I have a greater reason to be concerned about overpenetration than some people because a destroyed block will compromise structural integrity and lead to extremely difficult and expensive repairs, if it can be repaired at all. It may even render the house uninhabitable until it is done.
The only thing that concerns me about using an AR for home defense is the noise. It's going to do a number on your eardrums. Maybe the reality is it's not going to be much different than a 9 mm handgun
I lean the other way on this. After years of rifle shooting my first pistol experience was that it was comparatively LOUD. Best example is at the small in of the scale in .22 LR. Got a Marlin bolt rifle that, to me is unusually quiet for a firearm; compared to my Ruger Mk II you'd think it was suppressed. That little pistol is very loud. Same goes for a 7.62 AR-10 vs a .308 Remington XP-100. Just my experience...
I've been searching for such ammo for a long time, and what I found that I thought I would want is the Hornady Urban TAP 55gr. but for some reason, they only let police buy it. Makes no sense. However, I just discovered that they make the Critical Defense in a 55gr .223 round, and since it's what I carry in my P365xl (and the Critical Duty in my P320), I've decided to order 5 boxes for some testing, if I like it, I'll order 5 more boxes and load up a could mags to keep at home. Personally, I'll grab the handgun for a home defense situation, but I believe it's a great idea to have proper ammo for the rifle in case things take that highly unlikely turn that all hell breaks lose.
@@alabamatrout6985 I'm all set up for 55gr, not going to rezero to pup up to a 75. I found that Hornady does make an awesome round in their Critical Defense line up: 223 Remington 55 gr FTX Critical Defense
So I wonder if using Hornady 223.REM TAP 75gr BTHP for self defense would be frowned upon in court if they might argue that since it was 75gr you meant more harm ? Also is that ammo ok thru a 16 inch 1:8 twist barrel? I’ve never actually shot it thru the firearm to try yet.
If the DA makes any argument about your ammunition choice, then he has a weak case! But then, if you find yourself in a court room, you probably have a weak case too. I have not seen a single case, where ammunition choice made a difference. 1:8 twist is perfect for that bullet weight. However, ALWAYS shoot your defensive ammo through YOUR firearm to assure it cycles and groups correctly. I would rather rely on a bonded soft point round, like Speer Gold Dor or Federal Tactical.
Thomas binger went after Kyle Rittenhouse over fmj. Called em " explosive" at one point during court. He also flagged the entire court room and jury with Kyles gun.
@@tonysudano778 Right, the Kenosha County Assistant District Attorney, who saw his entire case fall apart in court and resorted to hiding evidence from the defense, among other things. This whole "explosive ammo" nonsense is also getting repeated a lot in MSM lately. The Zimmerman prosecutor yelled in court about how bad hollow points are, until the prosecution put a police officer in the witness stand stating that this is what they use for duty.
@@rickkorallus1162 My understanding is that twist v. bullet weight is more of a stabilization during flight thing, which would tend to have a greater effect at ranges typically greater than home defense ranges.
Stay away from frangible ammunition. I tried using it for wildlife problems inside a building. Yes they blow to pieces but many times on a raccoon it wasn’t a humane kill. Most times I had to shoot the animal twice because it created surface wounds. I’m speaking from experience. You can take it however you want. For in buildings I use a 50 grain vmax and it will destroy what ever you hit.
I like the 60 grain V-MAX for SD. Plus the undefeated 75 grain Speer GD's. For my 12 gauge 9 pellet 00 Buckshot does wonders. 9mm go to is Liberty Civil Defense 50gr HP, devastating 2000fps round w/ NO recoil
Higher twist rate is more suited towards heavier bullets. The shorter barrels prefer heavier bullets. At close range it won’t matter, shot placement is key.
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Ugh. FMJ is a last resort. It's used because it's the only thing you have. I'm considering Hornady TAP 5.56 53 gr. My usual is 64 gr gold dot for barrier penetration.
The whole 5.56 in .223 is negligible. Unless it says .223 match, there should be no issue using quality ammo. Armorers course I took, NONE of the guns passed the 5.56 chamber gauge except the government Colts that two LEOs had and a personal BCM that was brought in. Even my 5.56 stamped Sig with a couple thousand rounds through it failed.
@@bocefusmurica4340 too short at the throat yes. 5.56 has a longer throat than .223. There are differences between .223 and 5.56 I will not deny that. But I ran at least 3000 rounds of 5.56 through that Sig barrel before I ever gauged it, no problems whatsoever.
I like my frang. but it smells funny when I shoot it. I agree with the standard FMJ too, just don't miss like you said. That's what it was meant to do!
I have a brick home and so do all my neighbors. Will 5.56 green tip go through a brick wall? And would it through 2 brick walls if so? And yeah I know about windows and doors
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I prefer my Browning M2 50 cal for home defense. I'm not worried about over penetration. I own 200 acres, no neighbors for a couple miles.
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Sure you will. Lol
@@Ken_Koonz OR don't use an assult rifle period..
@@dieseldabz7104 A M2 is not an assault rifle, it's a crew served heavy machine gun.
Helpful tip: Don't use the 5.56 'Green Tip' for home defense. Those M855 penetrator rounds are designed to go THROUGH things. Including your home's walls and walls of your neighbor's house.
yep specifically body armor peace
@@ronaldrichardson4451 it's no good for armor besides UHMWPE plates
Green tip is hot trash. It's a mild steel core and m193 does even better when it comes to barrier penetration and terminal ballistics. They went to green tip because of the horrific wounds the 55gr was doing out of the m16 in nam.
Not to worry my bedroom door faces my back yard which is a huge hill and 30 rounds of m855 is exactly what they getting. Also ya it helps penetrate but what m855 does that a fmj won't is fragmenting, even if it hits dry wall it will definitely kill someone on the other side but just that 1 wall has broken the bullet into small pieces and they are not going to keep going through multiple walls. So if you're target isn't immediate on the other side of the barrier m193 is better.
Depending upon if you expect intruders with pates showing up at your house
Don't forget you can use 556 in a 223 barrel that is marked Wylde
Good point....brought a 223 Wylde 18' upper PSA. Heard it was going to be the new standard...not sure if it picked up
that's a wild concept.
I would still have the chamber reamed to be safe.
My wylde chambered rifle absolutely loves everything as long as it's 55g+
@@SoranoGuardias If that's you then go ahead if you like that extra peace of mind. I've only purchased .223 Wylde exclusively for a number of years now (maybe 9-10 rifles) and mostly PSA uppers with both PSA and FN barrels with 1:7 twist. Some have been a little more accurate than others (all 16 or 18 inch) but all have worked very well with both .223 and 5.56 ammo. Anyway, that's what I've experienced, and PSA does offer a lifetime guarantee on what they make.
Excellent point with getting 5.56 AR. 5.56 has a higher chamber pressure threshold making the lower pressure of the 223 easily handled. 223 Wylde chambered AR 15 is designed to fire both 5.56 & 223.
Ya I seriously doubt any of that will matter at the range this would be happening. Also 300 blk would without a doubt be a better choice for home defense and there is plenty of 300 blk that's nearly as spicy as 5.56 if you're actually concerned about the power.
You are incorrect about the pressure rating. The difference is in the the throat design and length. The 5.56 chamber has a longer throat to accommodate special military ammo. The .223 throat is designed for typical hunting bullet profiles. Shorter throats also usually mean the barrel has a higher likelihood of being more accurate. The .223 Wylie is another throat design that works with all the military ammo and offers better accuracy when shooting .223 in it.
@@briangc1972 well you arnt wrong but neither is he, .223 tops out at 55k psi and 5.56 goes up to 62k psi. The pressure is the main difference, the brass they use is identical but chambers are made differently. .223 will be the most accurate, 5.56 will give you the most extended barrel life and wylde is a combination of the 2 however wylde is not as good as .223 with accuracy and cant take the abuse of 5.56, it is the best of both worlds but not as good as either one at the individual thing.
@@whatsmolly5741 There is a video explaining the testing procedure for the pressures. It is assumed that the military uses the same SAAMI test procedure, but they do not. As a result, the military test yields higher pressure readings of the exact same load on the exact same barrel. That is why many people think the 5.56 has a higher pressure curve, though it is the same.
@@briangc1972 ............ the max load data for 5.56x45 m855 using ramshot tac is 26.2 grains.
The max .223 load for the m855 using ramshot tac is 25 grains..... it's the single defining feature as all other dimensions are the same.
I just use standard issue M193 for both practice and home defense. It’s cheaper and once it hits flesh it’ll tumble around and do as much damage as a hollow point anyway
I use Hornaday Critical Defense. Devastating, no over penetration. I also have mags loaded with VMAX.
I think this is first comment here that’s is good sense and good answer
If you miss it doesnt matter what round you use it will go through a 2x4 and several layers of drywall. No such thing as magic bullet that will kill somebody but somehow know to slow down when coming into contact with wood. However if you don't miss critical defense is probably the only 223 round that reliably won't continue with enough energy to kill someone on the other side of the wall
I use Hornady .223 critical defense. Watching a ballistic gel test, the bullet practically turned to dust and some fragments only a couple inches into the gel
Been a while since you commented this. Do you remmeber what grain it was?
@@Vester1one it was 55g
Local Police Department carry these as there duty round comes highly recommended he even mentioned the Hornady Tap rounds which are like a polymer tip like the VMaxx
I choose .300 blackout for CQB. 8.5 inch barrel.
110gr V-Max 🤘🏻
The best ammo lately seems to be whatever ammo you can get
And put it on target! I can’t get my hands on any hunting rounds, it’s sold sold out every time I try! 55gr for plinking. Mags loaded up with 77gr…
@Rick Korralus I live in Central Michigan and The Dunham's store just got loaded up on hunting rounds for 9mm and big calibers like 308 and 30.06 but they are from 35 a box and up. Hopefully the market gets flooded and prices come down. Either that or the ammo manufacturers know something we don't
@@darinjohnson1725 That’s awesome! I will try to get some online! Thank you Sir!! 🙏 Here in ILL-inois we can’t hunt with rifles, so nobody stocks it.
Additional info:
-55 Gr 5.56 FMJ fragments, tumbles and/or yaws when hitting a liquid target (bad guy) starting around 2500 fps. You can achieve this with short barrels like 10.5", but longer barrels get even better velocity. 16" barrels are guaranteed to be devastating. Long barrels turn practice FMJ into home defense rounds.
-if you run shorter barrels, look into 77gr BTHP from Black Hills or Frontier. Those fragment at lower velocity, pack a mean punch and are very accurate. They're more costly but are more consistent with energy transfer from shorter barrels.
- a 5.56 that fragments is very unlikely to hit someone behind the target with lethal force but can still be a concern. This is the case with any bullet worth it's weight in self defense application. You must always be cognizant of what is beyond your target, no matter the platform.
What's the best AR ammunition for Red Coats rocking a Kevlar vest or ceramic body armor? Asking for a friend. 🤔
@@William0zero0 depends alot on the type of armor. Normal old green tip , will disrespect 3a
@@William0zero0 level III is defeated by regular FMJ 55 Gr
You unfortunately will have a difficult time punching through a proper level 4 plate with even green tips, they can take a lot of abuse.
That being said, the pelvis is highly effective shot placement against plate users
In Terraria of course
@@Visual217 55 grain FMJ only defeats level III steel plates, it won't penetrate ceramic or UHMWPE. Green tips will defeat level III UHMWPE, but not steel or ceramic. Level IV? Yeah as you said, just shoot somewhere else.
@@jonahpatton8879 aren't those level III+? I always get so mixed up with the level III variety.
For me 556 wise im using 62 Gr Green tip or Hornady 75 gr match BTHP white box and the grey superformanse! Shoots beautifuly through my 16 inch 1/8 twist PSA barrel facts
My home defense set up is a custom built AeroPrecision 5.56 AR pistol with a 10.5 barrel, Dead Air suppressor and VMax ammo. Everyone in my house knows how to use it .
Sounds like inadequate penetration.
#6 heavy game load in 12 gauge works well, alternated with slugs for body armor, if you catch the drift
Personal preference is the speer gold dot 62g bonded jacket soft point. Those things expand near instantly and don't generally exit the body with any energy left
I use the same round on deer and does massive internal damage to heart and lungs. That's why it's the most common fbi round. Get hit go down.
Not sure it’s a common round for any tactical unit but I could be very wrong on that. I do know sp ammo in a semi-auto is very iffy and some guns will not run it well. A single or follow up shot hunting round doesn’t equal a good home defense round. I don’t trust it.
@@brandonjordan2516 research the round, it's Speers version of federal fusions msr hunting round. Nearly identical in every way. And yes it's a self defense and hunting round great for whitetail and smaller animals.
@@JamesSmullins
Except for velocity of the load. Any testing I could find on speer's soft points generally show their velocities are comparatively mild from short barrels for some reason.
Only the 55grain gold dot and the federal fusion MSR seem to not lose disproportionate amounts of velocity from barrel lengths under 14.5". Finding the .223 MSR loads was like finding hen's teeth for several months. Heavier .223 speer rounds get 2200-2300at the muzzle from shorter barrels.
@@mghegotagun I load my own and for a 16 barrel and load data puts it around 2900 fps. I haven't gotten a chrono yet to verify but based on shooting them it's pretty close.
@@JamesSmullins Well yeah loading your own is an alternative to the mild load speer does for sure.
2:12 ... The polymer tip doesn't aid in expansion. It's to improve the ballistic performance as the round travels through air (a properly formed bullet is better in the air than one with an exposed hollow point).
Also, frangible ammunition can have penetration issues, as well as the lighter weight bullet can shift POI from POA. Additionally, the lighter rounds can cause cycling issues in semi-automatic firearms. Most self-defense experts do not really recommend frangible ammunition for self defense. Frangible are for shooting steel targets.
Personally, I'd recommend a solid copper expanding bullet from Defiant Munitions (TCX), Gorilla Ammunition (.223 Self Defense), or Corbon (DPX) ... or Speer Gold Dots.
Agreed. I use a .223 55 Grain Speer Gold Dot Soft point in my rifle. At home defense ranges you will get plenty of expansion and pentation into the target with that round. Out of my 11.5" barrel I clock the rounds at around 2600ish FPS.
It aids watch Hornady videos.
Designed for short-range defensive situations, a new breed of FTX® bullets are at the forefront of the Critical Defense® Rifle ammunition line. The bullet’s patented Flex Tip® not only helps keep the nose cavity free from clogging as it passes through heavy clothing but also helps the bullet expand at low velocities.
Straight from the site.
@@Army12Bravo236 yeah, a site set up to market their bullets. There's a vast difference between a marketing claim (what you quote above) and what happens in the real world.
Look at real world tests, and ... well ... physics. The only claim that is true is that the tip keeps something else from getting in the cavity. But, consider in that statement they admit that something getting in the cavity pre-expansion hinders expansion ... yet the tip is in the cavity. There's the inherent problem.
They are banking on that tip coming out at impact. Often, though, it gets mashed down into the cavity and hinders expansion. This is why a majority of defensive rounds recommended by experts *do not* have any kind of rubber tip on the end.
The polymer tip DOES aid expansion , it ensures the hollow point does not get filled with clothing or another barrier and still expands., in addition to aiding in accurracy same as HST technology.
I was just at the gun store asking if they had ammo good for someone defending their condo. I don't want my bullets going through the wall. The guy two condos down had to discharge his weapon and one of the rounds went straight into the neighbors condo. A young couple and their two young daughters were in the room when it happened. It got me thinking about this a lot. I have no problem taking the life of a thug in defense of my life, but if I were to ever accidentally hit a family...
I couldn't live with my self. Flangeble ammo is exactly what I need. Great videos BTW.
ALL rounds that pass the FBI standard gel test also penetrate 4-5 interior (drywall) walls! The solution is to shoot at safe trajectories/angles. Get some training!
@@charliefoxtrot5001 all true.
Thanks for this video. I have been totally over thinking “home defense” rounds.
I use my tried and true Gravity Hammer for home defense. I did 4 tours on Reach and can say it gets the job done. Worked great on small game like grunts and big game like Brutes.
Ha reach I did 4 tours in 3 with an energy sword
I use 5.56 Frontier hollowpoint's, which use hornady bullets
I trust the Hornady Critical Defense .223 75gr
I still prefer a pistol for home defense.An AR is very loud when used indoors people! I would also use soft tip ammo if pushed to use it for home defense. A farm or ranch would be an example of when an AR would come in handy in MHO.
Like the intruder would care how loud his weapon of choice would be! Try shooting a large caliber pistol .38, .357mag, .40 cal, .44mag, or .45 cal indoors and compare it to the noise level of an AR .556 round, there's hardly any difference indoors, and who's gonna be concerned about the noise level from a gun when you're confronting a intruder that's broke into your home, that'd never cross most people's mind, in fact most people would be having a adrenaline rush from hell when confronting an intruder, especially at night in the dark or in a secluded area, and when it comes to a possible life and death situation when confronting another person with a gun, the amount of noise that your gun may make will be the least of things going through your mind at the time.
subsonic 300blk 8-10 inch barrel. 225 grain with a blast can. if the 300blk doesnt stop them, the sound of it will.
My choice is the 300 blackout in a 10.5 inch barrel using Hornady vmax 110 grain hand loads with a muzzle velocity around 2200fps providing muzzle energy around 1200 foot pounds
Same.
Do you recommend that over subs? I have more 300 subsonic just because it’s fun to shoot suppressed. Not that I shoot it a lot lol.🤙🏼
@@michaelmckinney5954 i shoot subs also like you said its fun and it is viable option for self defense, the 110 grain offers much more foot lbs. of energy giving much more kinetic damage, do a search on RUclips for Gerand Thumb 300 blackout. he did a great workup on bullet weights vs barrel length and is a reliable source of information. ruclips.net/video/4VNl7QXykUY/видео.html
@@Hobo-Henry Thanks for getting back, Hobo. I love Flannel Daddy and will definitely watch his 300 BO video. 😉 Thanks, sir!
Such an awesome channel
Thanks!
I use Hornaday varmint 55gr ballistic tip. Any 556 hunting type round with soft point or ballistic tip I think would be best.
If you can find any!!!
Standard 223 55gr ball. Think PMC Bronze. Great practice ammo too!
77gr SMKs for me. But honestly, I’d be fine with pretty much any 5.56/.223 ammo. It’s all exponentially more effective than a pistol round.
Good call. 77gr SMK, OTM, or TMK from Black Hills ammo is GTG, especially when using a SBR/AR pistol for HD.
FYI the chamber and rifle twist rate will be written on the barrel.
About 2 month's ago A cougar was trying to kill a new calf of mine so I shot it 23 times with 50 grain 223 hornady ballistic tips. I was not impressed. It ran about 280 yds total before dieing. After hitting it 2 times it turned off the calf and ran straight towards me so I worked its chest over then at about 22 yds away it turned broadside to me and I worked its lungs over then it climbed a fence and I hit it between the front shoulders in the spine and it ran another 50 yards before dieing. The cougar was about 150 lbs. I shot a 25 lb coyote earlier that morning and 1 shot tipped it over. I am now stepping up to 64 grain spire points and will see how that works. 50 to 55 grain ballistic tips have worked well for me on coyotes out to 450 yds. I felt the 50 grain hornady ballistic tips expanded to fast for good penitration on the cougar.
Are those frangible rounds the 'exploding bullets' that Thomas Binger told us about?
I don't agree with the 55 grain opinion for any ar15 with a barrel less than 20 inches in length. The shorter the barrel the heavier bullet you will want to use. I suggest hollow point 77 grain. They are great for any distance!
Heavier bonded soft point ammo that is barrier-blind is best, like Speer Gold Dot or Federal Tactical.
The best 5.56 is...wabababababwbabababababwabbwa. That's what Boe Jiden said.
FJB
FJB
I use my 9 mm pcc and it feeds 124 gtrain speer hollowpints flawlessly and it stops in short wall idstances. It is significantly less loud than a 556.
If you're gonna use FMJ 5.56, use Winchester M193 5.56. That is real deal, very hot Lake City military ammunition. It gets very good velocities so it will break up more and transfer more energy making it the best option when considering passthrough.
That is what I got. Thanks for the info.
My personal choice is 55gr jsp spire point with cannelure
Thank you very much, Kevin.
You answered a few questions that I had within the answer to the question that you presented.
I appreciate your videos.
Thank you for your support, Fred.
Amazing video! My issue is that I live in a condo, so I'll need to purchase a can. The tax on suppressors is so stupid: I want to be able to defend myself, not at the expense of my hearing!
Earpro helps too!
Just move to Texas, New law allows you to own one
I prefer a 45/70 with a 530 gr. bullet for home defence.
expecting an indian attack?
Talking about over kill lol
@@scottrussell6717Bu you only have to hit them once and that saves on ammo cost.
@@barefoofDr 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 never thought of it that way
Anyone recommend a good round for a 10.5/11.5 5.56 round? Currently I have a bunch of 75gr bthp because they print so well and are pretty cheap.
The shorter barrels work best with the heavier bullets.
I thought about getting a 9 mm short ar that's considered a pistol I think so I can practice more because ammo is cheaper. Already have 2,000 rounds for my pistol. Does that make sense?
For home defense, no, not if "over" penetration is a concern for you. 9mm sub guns were got dropped by swat teams BECAUSE they would penetrate more than 556 inside of homes. The lighter and faster 556 rounds dump energy faster.
If I use the frangible ammunition will it go through close or if it hits close it will just explode
I keep a.mag of Winchester 64 Grain power points .
But overall I just stock m193, and they'll do just fine
This is great information to have!!! Thank you for all the amazing videos
You are so welcome!
I use the Hornady v-max bullets
I like the 70 Grain Barnes TSX
300 blackout subsonic is a great choice.
Jerry Miculek did an experiment about this very thing. Concentrating primarily on the over penetration aspects. The lighter the bullet, the less possibility of over penetration, even out of a longer barrel. I reccomend a 32-38 grain bullet, and a rifle with a 10.3-16 inch barrel. Personally, I use a 300blk, suppressed, with sibs,but that's me.
Cool flex. Bad info.
I have 2 ar pistols by my bed, one is .300 blk, and loaded with subsonics, no suppressor yet, but .300 subsonic is ballistically a twin to .45 acp. smaller hole but more rounds than any .45 pistol. with a suppressor it would be indoor hearing friendly and still able to get the job done. i have hunting rounds loaded in the 5.56 pistol, hit a center mass area and the bullet should dump most if not all its energy in the target helping to cut down on over penetration.
Go look at tests with varmint rounds 8 inches of penetration in ballistics gel isn’t getting to vitals in a human bro
@@eddiearchuleta615 not looking to kill, just stop.
@@eddiearchuleta615 a baseball bat won't penetrate to any vitals, but it can stop someone pretty effectively.
53gr Hornady FTX (varmit rd) with 25gr of LT-32. 2300ish fps.
Correct you can’t fire 556 out of something chambered in 223rem but you can in something chambered in 223wylde.
I prefer 77 gr OTM/SMK because they penetrate at least 12 inches. Most of the rounds mentioned in the video do not penetrate 12 inches in ballistic gelatin. The FBI created that standard because not every shot is an open shot to the chest. You might have to shoot through an attackers arms or you maybe on the ground and have to shoot up through the attackers torso. Regardless, the FBI created the 12 inch standard for good reason. The video also goes on about over penetration. I have target stands made of 1/4" plywood. If you just shoot a rifle in my field the bullet will almost go out of sight before it hits the ground. But if you hit the plywood the bullet hits the ground in a very short distance. I am not talking about an AR-15 I am talking about a 308 or even a mighty 300 win mag. We all have seen videos about 5.56x45 penetration usually the bullet goes to pieces in very short order in gelatin. Even if the bullet does pass through there is not going to be much left of it and it is not going to have much energy. Other than police shootings, it is very seldom a stray bullet does any damage in self defense shooting.
I use 55 grain .223 soft points.
For home defense in the AR I use the 50 grain Fiocchi Extrema and Fort Scott 115 grain copper spun tumble on impact in my 300 blk pistol.
If you have a 1 in 7" twist rate in your AR can you effectively fire a 40grain round? Maybe at home defense short distances, it does not matter but always been told not to shoot smaller than 55grain out of my AR. Also, I have been warned to not have any boutique ammo as a prosecutor can make the claim you were out to kill someone because of the ammo you use, vs standard 55 or 62-grain ammo. Should that be a concern when using frangible ammo?
I personally don't think frangible ammo is smart for anything other than steel targets.
I run 1:7 barrels exclusively and they'll shoot anything up close. My groups start to get a bit wider with anything lighter than 55g. The 1:7 seems to really, really like the 62g rounds I usually run.
Back in the day I heard that faster rifling could spin a light round apart but I don't think it's an issue with today's better ammo. I'm a big fan of the 62-70 grain in the 1:7. It seems to do everything pretty well. With that said, I dump everything through it. A Wylde chambered 1:7 is, in my opinion, the most useful general purpose set up.
And as far as the lawyer, unfortunately they're going to make any round you use sound terrible. A FMJ is reckless because it can go through things, a hollow is evil because it does too much damage, etc. As far as lawyers are concerned, I think anything that says "self defense" on the box would probably sound better to a jury. Their lawyer can say all they want, and your lawyer gets to say "he's a responsible gun owner that bought ammo specifically labeled for self defense."
@@abettermind Or how about THROW AWAY THE BOX WHEN YOU BUY IT
You have bigger problems if the prosecutor wants to talk about your ammo. A good defense attorney will keep the discussion on the self defense
Well that’s when you claim you were only trying to stop him, not kill him. If you’re shooting defense ammunition and not extreme penetration type stuff , just my opinion but you should be ok! I use 62 grain Underwood Controlled Chaos. It just dumps its energy immediately if you hit what you’re aiming at! Best Ammo I’ve found
@@tunaking24 thanks I will check out the underwood ammo
Will pass along this video to friends.
Personally I'd rather not use an AR inside my home unless suppressed with subsonic ammo. I keep my AR ready as a standoff tool for outside the home. I do have a dedicated AR standard capacity mag charged with 35-45gr. Varmint rounds traveling at 3,500-3,900 fps at the muzzle. and staggered with 42gr. Frangible ammo. I use my PCC loaded with 147gr 9mm +P and 124gr. +P Speer Gold Dot and Federal HST. My experience tells me that the AR is super loud with a blinding muzzle flash inside any structure. My PCC for home defense is a CZ Scorpion with a MagPul 35 round mag loaded as mentioned previously. Know your impacts at the different ranges in your home. Remember sight over bore on 3-10 yard potential engagements. My PCC is load inside my home. Keep your AR for outside purposes loaded with heavy 5.56x45mm in the 69-77gr. OTM or ballistic tip ammo. Hope this helps anyone. Semper Fi and Spiritus Invictus my fellow Americans.
223 Underwood 55 gr Controlled Chaos FTW
I keep some Winchester silver tip in my bedside AR. It seems to do good. I have a 2 story and all the kids bedrooms are upstairs so over pen isn’t a huge issue for me.
@ James Cole, the Winchester Balistic Silvertip .223 55gr is what I mainly use for deer hunting in my AR-15 and sometimes I use the Hornady 60 gr V-Max. I also have the Winchester Ballistic Silver Tip 150gr .308 cal for my AR-10 that's a deer stopper from hell and it's great for Elk as well. Lol
Anybody bringing up the point about 223 Wylde being able to fire 556 and 223?
First go choose 300 blackout for home defense over 5.56. It allows you to have a ton of stopping power with a very short barrel length ideal for CQC. 5.56 is an amazing cartridge, but it is not ideal for home defense in the home. The problem is 5.56 loses most of its amazing features when you chop down the barrel. Unfortunately, in CQC want a short barrel.
The 5.56 will over penetrate less than 300 blackout in almost every instance. Also, if we are talking about fragmentation with standard military loadings, your target will not be far enough for the velocity to matter(can increase distance greatly with 77gr.)The only reason to choose 300 blackout over 5.56 is if you want something with a barrel less than 10 inches and or you want to shoot subsonic.
@@StewieStew820 or you just want a 30 caliber ar15. that was my reasoning when deciding between the 2 anyhow.
I mean that genuinely depends on a lot of things. If you have a room to hunker down in barrel length isn’t going to be an issue. If you have little ones on a different floor you have to go get and take to a safer place then I guess barrel length might come into play a bit more. There’s a reason most trainers advise against solo room clearing etc. But at the end of the day it’s all about what works best in your situation.
Just run 55 grain soft point .223 cost a bit more but will pentrate much less as far as walls etc.
Our Deputies now use 53 grain varmint rounds from Hornady (Red Tip Poly) in all field 30 round mags.
That’s really not great. Cops have issues all the time of bullets not penetrating after hitting a shoulder first etc
I used the 40, 55 & 60 grain V-Max, (Ballistic Tip), Hornady, Freedom Munitions, and Fiocchi ammo in my Colt AR-15 M4 rifle for every type of predator and or varmint in my neck of the woods and when you put a round anywhere within the torso area or main part of the body, one round will do the job, regardless of the weight or grain, I've also killed deer at 75 yards using the 60 grain V-Max and dropped them in their tracks using my AR-15, so there's no doubt that the V-Max round would be a good home defense round, with the exception if the intruder is wearing body armor then the V-Max will be useless unless you go for a head shot. A soft hollow point round is also a good defense round as well.
Would you recommend this ammo for a 11.5 in barrel? I’m new to all this but I wasn’t the best I can get in a short package without breaking the bank on 300blk
I keep a Colt M-4 6940 MOE on my side of the bed. I generally use Federal Fusion .223 62 grain. Having something that expands should reduce of risk to my neighbors should I have use it on top of giving a better wound channel.
Trying to find something that won't go through my home's block walls but still have good terminal performance. I have a greater reason to be concerned about overpenetration than some people because a destroyed block will compromise structural integrity and lead to extremely difficult and expensive repairs, if it can be repaired at all. It may even render the house uninhabitable until it is done.
Thanks for the Short Answers🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Ballistic tips is a must for home defense AR
Agreed I have had good result with fiocchi 40gr vmax from a psa ar15 16" 1/7 barrel
Perfect explanation. Exactly what I was looking for - thanks!
Not to complicate things but you can fire 5.56 out of a .223 as long as its a .223 wylde. Just picked up a f1 firearms in .223 wylde its awesome
Great info brother. Always look forward to the videos u put out.
.223 wylde! Will chamber both 5.56 and .223
The only thing that concerns me about using an AR for home defense is the noise. It's going to do a number on your eardrums. Maybe the reality is it's not going to be much different than a 9 mm handgun
Keep your muffs next to your rifle.
I lean the other way on this. After years of rifle shooting my first pistol experience was that it was comparatively LOUD. Best example is at the small in of the scale in .22 LR. Got a Marlin bolt rifle that, to me is unusually quiet for a firearm; compared to my Ruger Mk II you'd think it was suppressed. That little pistol is very loud. Same goes for a 7.62 AR-10 vs a .308 Remington XP-100. Just my experience...
I wasn’t thinking about that when I picked up the surefire procomp brake the other day 😬🤦♂️
9mm is actually louder than 5.56 by 4 through 10 decibels.
Thanks for the info. I like the .223 Wylde receiver and barrel. I may consider an AR for home defense now.
I've been searching for such ammo for a long time, and what I found that I thought I would want is the Hornady Urban TAP 55gr. but for some reason, they only let police buy it. Makes no sense. However, I just discovered that they make the Critical Defense in a 55gr .223 round, and since it's what I carry in my P365xl (and the Critical Duty in my P320), I've decided to order 5 boxes for some testing, if I like it, I'll order 5 more boxes and load up a could mags to keep at home.
Personally, I'll grab the handgun for a home defense situation, but I believe it's a great idea to have proper ammo for the rifle in case things take that highly unlikely turn that all hell breaks lose.
Well said friend AMEN.
Hornady black sbr 75 grain is the civilian tap round. Check out Erin’s videos on sage dynamics. Great channel!
@@alabamatrout6985 I'm all set up for 55gr, not going to rezero to pup up to a 75. I found that Hornady does make an awesome round in their Critical Defense line up: 223 Remington 55 gr FTX Critical Defense
300AAC 10.5” inch barrel
USCCA!!!! Great info, god awful actual insurance!!! Haha
So I wonder if using Hornady 223.REM TAP 75gr BTHP for self defense would be frowned upon in court if they might argue that since it was 75gr you meant more harm ? Also is that ammo ok thru a 16 inch 1:8 twist barrel? I’ve never actually shot it thru the firearm to try yet.
If the DA makes any argument about your ammunition choice, then he has a weak case! But then, if you find yourself in a court room, you probably have a weak case too. I have not seen a single case, where ammunition choice made a difference.
1:8 twist is perfect for that bullet weight. However, ALWAYS shoot your defensive ammo through YOUR firearm to assure it cycles and groups correctly. I would rather rely on a bonded soft point round, like Speer Gold Dor or Federal Tactical.
Thomas binger went after Kyle Rittenhouse over fmj. Called em " explosive" at one point during court. He also flagged the entire court room and jury with Kyles gun.
@@tonysudano778 Right, the Kenosha County Assistant District Attorney, who saw his entire case fall apart in court and resorted to hiding evidence from the defense, among other things. This whole "explosive ammo" nonsense is also getting repeated a lot in MSM lately.
The Zimmerman prosecutor yelled in court about how bad hollow points are, until the prosecution put a police officer in the witness stand stating that this is what they use for duty.
Higher twists prefer heavier bullets.
@@rickkorallus1162 My understanding is that twist v. bullet weight is more of a stabilization during flight thing, which would tend to have a greater effect at ranges typically greater than home defense ranges.
Great info
Thanks for the support!
Stay away from frangible ammunition. I tried using it for wildlife problems inside a building. Yes they blow to pieces but many times on a raccoon it wasn’t a humane kill. Most times I had to shoot the animal twice because it created surface wounds. I’m speaking from experience. You can take it however you want. For in buildings I use a 50 grain vmax and it will destroy what ever you hit.
Yes, I feel suggesting frangible ammunition for self defense is poor advice.
Thanks for this. I had been considering it.
I like the 60 grain V-MAX for SD. Plus the undefeated 75 grain Speer GD's. For my 12 gauge 9 pellet 00 Buckshot does wonders. 9mm go to is Liberty Civil Defense 50gr HP, devastating 2000fps round w/ NO recoil
Isn’t that a varmit round?
How much effect does the twist rate of the rifling have on ammo choice for home defense, or does that only matter at longer distances?
At home defense distance it’s not gonna make a difference ie 77 smk from a 1/9 10.5 inch barrel will work
Higher twist rate is more suited towards heavier bullets. The shorter barrels prefer heavier bullets. At close range it won’t matter, shot placement is key.
22 sub-sonic nolser WMRevolutionary
I try to explain the one-way compatibility with .223/5.56 but people just say tHeY'rE tHe sAmE iF iT cHaMbErS iT'LL FiRe iT
You can also get a dual barrel that's designed to shoot both 223 and 556
Frangibles will only break apart if you hit something that is harder than the bullet. Dry wall is not harder than said bullet.
223 wylde? Fmj not penetrating?
So does it matter if I have a .223 Wylde barrel and a 5.56 upper?
Nope, shoot it all!!!
I do not understand how to enter the give away(s). It only give me an option to become a member but I am already a member....
I don't see a way to sign in, what am I missing?
Thanks for being in the USCCA family, Ty! As a member, you are able to enter our daily Gun Giveaway by going to the "Perks & Discounts" section of your USCCA Member Dashboard here: my.usconcealedcarry.com/benefits/perks
It depends on your location of your house and if you have children or not. Green tip is good where pass through is less of a concern.
1. Whatever's available
2. Whatevers cheap
Ugh. FMJ is a last resort. It's used because it's the only thing you have. I'm considering Hornady TAP 5.56 53 gr. My usual is 64 gr gold dot for barrier penetration.
Hornady Black 5.56 62gr FMJ! ✌🏻
The whole 5.56 in .223 is negligible. Unless it says .223 match, there should be no issue using quality ammo.
Armorers course I took, NONE of the guns passed the 5.56 chamber gauge except the government Colts that two LEOs had and a personal BCM that was brought in. Even my 5.56 stamped Sig with a couple thousand rounds through it failed.
The 556 chambers were too small?
@@bocefusmurica4340 too short at the throat yes. 5.56 has a longer throat than .223.
There are differences between .223 and 5.56 I will not deny that. But I ran at least 3000 rounds of 5.56 through that Sig barrel before I ever gauged it, no problems whatsoever.
I have mixed feelings on frangible ammunition from a couple tests I've seen
I have a 10½in 556 with 55gr and 10in 300blk with 110gr in the same safe. I guess whichever one grab first will be the one going bang.
I keep mags full of Hornady 55gr sp... I keep my panzer ar12 with 00 buck by my bed with extra 10 rd mags
What recommendations would you make for a left hand user who can only find right hand parts or arms?
The same as for a right hand user, who is forced to shoot left handed, train and practice.
I'd recommend more practice.
stag arms, Springfield hellion just too name a few who can provide left hand ejection.
I’m a lefty and shoot my 5.56 left handed and have no problem what so ever with ejection or anything else
If you have a .223 Wylde you can shoot the higher pressure 5.56
I like my frang. but it smells funny when I shoot it. I agree with the standard FMJ too, just don't miss like you said. That's what it was meant to do!
Thank you again
I have a brick home and so do all my neighbors. Will 5.56 green tip go through a brick wall? And would it through 2 brick walls if so? And yeah I know about windows and doors