AIR RB EC wont come, the average War Thunder player is too bad to turn off his afterburner or dodge simple missiles. Gaijin would loose Players if they put in big maps/gamemodes, less players = less $$$. The way War Thunder is right now is almost the perfect cashcow.
Bruh, we really need to start doing some noise about this. AirRB (which I refuse to call it "realistic" at this point, airRB actually turned into what arcade battles used to be) is absolutely unplayable for someone who really wanna enjoy a true realistic air combat experience (and don't wanna really join the hard simulator community). We really need to make some pressure for them to leave this current braindead "AirRB" (aka grinding simulator) and develop and new, dynamic and REALISTIC game mode for those who wanna enjoy this kind of experience
@@Will_Is_Awesome tbf the F-15A in game is a late ANG model, and considering gaijin's known for sort of combining features from a bunch of different models I'd expect it to have HMD
5:22 9L/I is not a pseudo 9M, it was developed because the 9M turned out to be kinda trash having effectively the same flare resistance as a 9L (it's way overperforming in game when the seeker comes back on it shouldn't be able to tell the difference between flares and the plane) but with the advantage of the smokeless motor. The 9L/I was then developed with a different form of IRCCM which I believe is spectrum analysis, effectively detecting the wavelength of light coming from the target heat signature and filtering out others. (It's closer to how the unflarable sam missiles work)
lowkey terrified for how thrust vectoring is gonna work in this game. we’re creeping ever closer to the Sukhoi jets with serious modifications, including the ones with the add-on thrust vectoring nozzles, and Lord knows that Gaijin is gonna add them eventually…
the worst part is that warthunder maps actively play to the strengths of russian TV jets. I sincerely hope that gaijin is gonna so something so that air RB doesn't turn into thrust vectoring sukhois turning gravity off and slinging R73s off like no tomorrow
@@t95superheavytank52How do the maps play to their strengths tho?Theyre just maps or are you surprised that when american aircraft aren't pitted against outdated aircraft they can actually get shot down. How about you play wargame red dragon or warno or any cold war to present simulator so you can see how dominant russia is in combat simulators. No game dev is willing to model data link and integrated systems which is LITERALLY EVERYTHING that make NATO what they are now. When solo running you tend to get overrun by russian tech( Remember this game doesn't really model flaws about aircraft that are rumours (subjective) but ones that have actual data backing them(hence objective)
@@t95superheavytank52but i thought thats exactly what thrust vectoring is for 🤔. "Turning off gravity" momentarily in exchange for energy or am i wrong
Yeahhhhhh Funny how it really doesn't have to be that way, and earlier versions could be added to the us tree BEFORE exports with better things come with more updated versions in the us tt, but alas, we wait And planes come doa lol xd
The mig 29smt an fire way better cruise missiles such as the kh-59mk2 and the SM can carry the r-77-1 but they dont have them. I think its something called balancing
@@kunaukedi4850 SMT can get the upgraded R-77-1 yes, which is russia equivalent of the AIM-120C-5, and I don't think they need better air to ground missiles, they already have the best ones in game in terms of range alone, either way, I'm just saying the block 50 can get better AIM-120's in the future which also means its BR will also get higher over time.
@Will_Is_Awesome the one we got in game? The 2000's version? Well danm, I'm not sure that variant will be needed, not unless gaijin has nothing better to add in much later major updates I guess. That's cool tho
@@WOLFER. Yes it’s the latest block the US uses. They have upgraded block 50s with an AESA radar but that’s it. There’s a ton of stuff it can use, and 5th gens and other stuff will come so I expect the 120D to come eventually
Because 10 Aim-120 can totally be balanced. Look at how well the Su-27 did in bringing balance with 6 R-27ER. All I ever see is people complaining about the ER and how unfun it is to play against. Now imagine 10 missiles that don't need to be guided coming at you, from one person. Just 6-8 per person is going to be incredibly obnoxious. 16v16 means at MINIMUM 60 ARH missiles could be in the air at one time from one team. War Thunder wasn't even ready for 4th gen, it definitely isn't ready for ARH. They should have fixed a lot of issues before doing all that. Reducing team size, decompressing BR, increasing map sizes for higher tiers, fixing or just removing the instructor.
@@RedTail1-1you would be so slow in the f18 that by the time you are at altitude to shoot them off u are already gonna have a bunch of missiles fired at you, it really isn’t as big of a problem as many people see it is, 10 amraam loadout won’t be optimal, 6 AMRAAMs with 2 fuels tanks on the wings and 2 9ms on the tips is gonna be a good loadout which will put it on par with an f15
@@Arrozconpanne that's exactly my point, i'm not asking for a SPAMRAAM F-18, I'm simply saying that a plane which came out of the same program the F-16 did should be in game by now, especially considering its air force brother has been in game for going on two years
Kinda looks like Gaijin might skip straight to the Super Hornet and neglect the legacy hornets :( And yeah the Harrier II would be nice gaijin. Or hell the A-10C
Considering they added the F-15 so late at the last December update when it could’ve come earlier it makes me think the F-18 and Naval Su-27K (Su-33) will come this December update. Both are relatively new models that Gaijin has to model in which takes a lot of time so it makes sense that Gaijin would add these at the end of the year update where previous F-16, and F-15 American jets were added with their respective Russian counterpart. Also the F-18 is arguably better in capability as a multi role than the F-16 so it could become an amazing multi role Air RB and Ground RB jet for years to come like the F-16C is now.
@@seductive_fishstick8961 aint gonna lie i was hoping for my canard flanker this patch, fking hell i just got my flanker expert crewed also and just to unlock another sukoi without canards just makes my blood boil hahaha
Disappointing part is we wouldn’t get the weaponry that makes it so deadly such as cbu_87 cluster munitions and jdams, jdams are legit the easiest thing to add in game like all of the requirements to put them in ga,e is there but they won’t gib
it's good to know that there is gonna be new planes and i wonder if the amraams will be able to track again after it misses like some of the missle and i wonder when usa is gonna get the AIM-9X or maybe the F-15ex one of the 2 but thanks for the update and we almost at 1.5k keep up the good work will and have an amazing day man!
Now I am really starting to question gaijin's decision with USSR top jets, I already didn't want the su27s as a ussr main because I knew it could carry 10 missiles and would be good no matter how bad the airframe was, but for them to add the SU27SM?! EIGHT R77s with the possibility of 2-4 R73s? I am outta here
@@spray916 I know. But it was more of an interim between the earlier APG63’s and the more advanced AESA’s that they have nowadays. The F-15E was the one that mainly used the APG-70
@@sonwig5186 super cool, a jet thats should be added with gripen, f-16 etc cuz its LIGHT fighter with max 6-8 missiles, and they gonna add it when its gonna be useless, hell bro, even now its too late, J-11 would be better propably at everything so lel
@@SuiSideexyeah the F-18a and early versions are also useless now. Gaijin makes so much money from premium money and has a good player count but they love to still copy and paste the most anticipated airframes. And do things like add R27ER with no competition from any country for over a year.
@@ursensitiveinagayway4016they’ll probably have to skip straight to the Super Hornet at this point. Before that they’ll probably throw in the last F14 being the D model.
Doesn't really matter as long as they are keeping it 16v16. Ain't no way I'm coming back just to have 60-80 ARH missiles flying at me. If they add some specific 4th gen that could be over 100 missiles, since they can carry 10 ARH...
Honestly just surprised the Canadian Leopard isn’t going to the British, would make the most sense to me. The T90S definitely should’ve gone to USSR though India has stronger ties to modern Russia and the tank is Russian. Whereas Canada is still very strongly tied to the Brits historically and today so them getting the leopard would make sense. They already have a few Canadian vehicles including the Canadian ADATS(M113)
Another update where another country “cough cough Russia” gets an aircraft 2 decades ahead of everyone else because anything they had at the same time couldn’t compete 🙄
Even tho the F-16C in game couldnt carry the aim120A like the aim7 series in game it probably will. (Its important to note the F-16C is a 2005 variant)
Day 1 of asking gaijin to add Air rb EC for fox 3s
The GOAT
Sim
AIR RB EC wont come, the average War Thunder player is too bad to turn off his afterburner or dodge simple missiles. Gaijin would loose Players if they put in big maps/gamemodes, less players = less $$$. The way War Thunder is right now is almost the perfect cashcow.
@@theeradicator110 IIRC the Baz can’t use Fox-3s. The Israeli F-15s that do use the AIM-120
Bruh, we really need to start doing some noise about this. AirRB (which I refuse to call it "realistic" at this point, airRB actually turned into what arcade battles used to be) is absolutely unplayable for someone who really wanna enjoy a true realistic air combat experience (and don't wanna really join the hard simulator community).
We really need to make some pressure for them to leave this current braindead "AirRB" (aka grinding simulator) and develop and new, dynamic and REALISTIC game mode for those who wanna enjoy this kind of experience
Most important thing on the F-15C for US and JP is that it gets HMD, it will make it an actual usable jet now.
It could get HMD but the F-15C wasn’t given HMD right away, it took awhile. There’s a few different F-15Cs than can be added down the line
@@Will_Is_Awesome They will give it to the 15C, because the JP had it 100%. Otherwise Reddit would be set on fire :D
@@Will_Is_Awesome tbf the F-15A in game is a late ANG model, and considering gaijin's known for sort of combining features from a bunch of different models I'd expect it to have HMD
The cope is strong with this one.
Skill issue. Don’t need hmd to be “usable”
5:22 9L/I is not a pseudo 9M, it was developed because the 9M turned out to be kinda trash having effectively the same flare resistance as a 9L (it's way overperforming in game when the seeker comes back on it shouldn't be able to tell the difference between flares and the plane) but with the advantage of the smokeless motor. The 9L/I was then developed with a different form of IRCCM which I believe is spectrum analysis, effectively detecting the wavelength of light coming from the target heat signature and filtering out others. (It's closer to how the unflarable sam missiles work)
What unflarable Sam?
@@FXIIBeaverstrela is very unflarable
@@FXIIBeaverThe Japanese 11.0 one probably
@@saplingseedsaccrew3143 yeah because it is probably in contrast mode. Which means you either break Line of sight or blend in.
lowkey terrified for how thrust vectoring is gonna work in this game. we’re creeping ever closer to the Sukhoi jets with serious modifications, including the ones with the add-on thrust vectoring nozzles, and Lord knows that Gaijin is gonna add them eventually…
the worst part is that warthunder maps actively play to the strengths of russian TV jets. I sincerely hope that gaijin is gonna so something so that air RB doesn't turn into thrust vectoring sukhois turning gravity off and slinging R73s off like no tomorrow
@@t95superheavytank52How do the maps play to their strengths tho?Theyre just maps or are you surprised that when american aircraft aren't pitted against outdated aircraft they can actually get shot down. How about you play wargame red dragon or warno or any cold war to present simulator so you can see how dominant russia is in combat simulators. No game dev is willing to model data link and integrated systems which is LITERALLY EVERYTHING that make NATO what they are now. When solo running you tend to get overrun by russian tech( Remember this game doesn't really model flaws about aircraft that are rumours (subjective) but ones that have actual data backing them(hence objective)
@@t95superheavytank52but i thought thats exactly what thrust vectoring is for 🤔. "Turning off gravity" momentarily in exchange for energy or am i wrong
@@kunaukedi4850 I guess size?
all its going to do is make the SU-27 bleed even more speed than it does lol
Early R77 has worse range than the R-27ER
Since Russia has a Slovenia T-72, and UK will be getting Indian MiG-21, Gaijin can use their bs logic and give Russia a former USSR-bloc nation's F16
Another update another day where foreign countries get the same stuff but better than American 😢
I’m still waiting on the AV-8B+ for the US
Yeahhhhhh
Funny how it really doesn't have to be that way, and earlier versions could be added to the us tree BEFORE exports with better things come with more updated versions in the us tt, but alas, we wait
And planes come doa lol xd
@@Will_Is_Awesome I just want the A4-m
maybe the us will have an on par f-18 when other countries get their f-18s
@@Will_Is_Awesomeseriously where is it? Gaijin said America would get it not very long after
F-16C Block 50, can also recieve Much better AIM-120 variants as late as the AIM-120C-7
The mig 29smt an fire way better cruise missiles such as the kh-59mk2 and the SM can carry the r-77-1 but they dont have them. I think its something called balancing
@@kunaukedi4850 SMT can get the upgraded R-77-1 yes, which is russia equivalent of the AIM-120C-5, and I don't think they need better air to ground missiles, they already have the best ones in game in terms of range alone, either way, I'm just saying the block 50 can get better AIM-120's in the future which also means its BR will also get higher over time.
It can even carry the 120D
@Will_Is_Awesome the one we got in game? The 2000's version? Well danm, I'm not sure that variant will be needed, not unless gaijin has nothing better to add in much later major updates I guess. That's cool tho
@@WOLFER. Yes it’s the latest block the US uses. They have upgraded block 50s with an AESA radar but that’s it. There’s a ton of stuff it can use, and 5th gens and other stuff will come so I expect the 120D to come eventually
gaijin continues to edge us for the F-18, fucking amazing
Because 10 Aim-120 can totally be balanced. Look at how well the Su-27 did in bringing balance with 6 R-27ER. All I ever see is people complaining about the ER and how unfun it is to play against. Now imagine 10 missiles that don't need to be guided coming at you, from one person. Just 6-8 per person is going to be incredibly obnoxious. 16v16 means at MINIMUM 60 ARH missiles could be in the air at one time from one team. War Thunder wasn't even ready for 4th gen, it definitely isn't ready for ARH. They should have fixed a lot of issues before doing all that. Reducing team size, decompressing BR, increasing map sizes for higher tiers, fixing or just removing the instructor.
@@RedTail1-1You do know that only the F/A-18C got the 10 AMRAAMs right? They should have added an early F-18A forever ago.
@@Arrozconpannef-18A didnt carry the aim120. Regardless the su27sm can carry 8 r77s
@@RedTail1-1you would be so slow in the f18 that by the time you are at altitude to shoot them off u are already gonna have a bunch of missiles fired at you, it really isn’t as big of a problem as many people see it is, 10 amraam loadout won’t be optimal, 6 AMRAAMs with 2 fuels tanks on the wings and 2 9ms on the tips is gonna be a good loadout which will put it on par with an f15
@@Arrozconpanne that's exactly my point, i'm not asking for a SPAMRAAM F-18, I'm simply saying that a plane which came out of the same program the F-16 did should be in game by now, especially considering its air force brother has been in game for going on two years
AV8B, AV8B+, F18A/B and F18C/D all from before amraams
Gib? 😂
Oh, and 1970s F15A+C with 9Js and Ls gib? XD
Kinda looks like Gaijin might skip straight to the Super Hornet and neglect the legacy hornets :(
And yeah the Harrier II would be nice gaijin. Or hell the A-10C
@@ICECAPPEDSKYwhat br would the a/10c be in air rb plz provide input on that 12.0 or... 🤔
Considering they added the F-15 so late at the last December update when it could’ve come earlier it makes me think the F-18 and Naval Su-27K (Su-33) will come this December update. Both are relatively new models that Gaijin has to model in which takes a lot of time so it makes sense that Gaijin would add these at the end of the year update where previous F-16, and F-15 American jets were added with their respective Russian counterpart. Also the F-18 is arguably better in capability as a multi role than the F-16 so it could become an amazing multi role Air RB and Ground RB jet for years to come like the F-16C is now.
9:03 this actually made me laugh out loud. Good video yet again
Where the fuck is my sukoi with canards goddamnit!!
We will almost most certainly get the Su-33 at the same time as the F-18. My bet is we will get both of them late to end of this year.
We will almost most certainly get the Su-33 at the same time as the F-18. My bet is we will get both of them late to end of this year.
@@seductive_fishstick8961 aint gonna lie i was hoping for my canard flanker this patch, fking hell i just got my flanker expert crewed also and just to unlock another sukoi without canards just makes my blood boil hahaha
@@teo3746 I with ya there. I knew it probably wasn't coming but i had a little hope
The problem is that the Su-33 can't carry R-77.
I hate cas more than anything, but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t excited for the eventual F-15E we’ll be getting eventually
Disappointing part is we wouldn’t get the weaponry that makes it so deadly such as cbu_87 cluster munitions and jdams, jdams are legit the easiest thing to add in game like all of the requirements to put them in ga,e is there but they won’t gib
something about the F-15J J-MSIP is that it gets MAWS, which could potentially be quite helpful if true
w vid man cant wait for the f-15c and the su-27sm love both planes 🐌
I grinded most of the french tree and now I really want to finish it just to get both the mirage2k5f and the f16 if they come
it's good to know that there is gonna be new planes and i wonder if the amraams will be able to track again after it misses like some of the missle and i wonder when usa is gonna get the AIM-9X or maybe the F-15ex one of the 2 but thanks for the update and we almost at 1.5k keep up the good work will and have an amazing day man!
Now I am really starting to question gaijin's decision with USSR top jets, I already didn't want the su27s as a ussr main because I knew it could carry 10 missiles and would be good no matter how bad the airframe was, but for them to add the SU27SM?! EIGHT R77s with the possibility of 2-4 R73s? I am outta here
Still the radar will be near the same and worse fm compared to the ingame su27.
Surely they give us the F-15C with AN/APG-70.
(I am coping)
Nah, that radar is for the F-15E coming in the US bomber tree in a future patch.
(You didn’t hear this from me)
@@christopherchartier3017 ????
About 40 or so F-15Cs received the AN/APG-70 in US service.
@@spray916 I know. But it was more of an interim between the earlier APG63’s and the more advanced AESA’s that they have nowadays. The F-15E was the one that mainly used the APG-70
@@christopherchartier3017 Why would this matter?
@@spray916 Is rather have F-15C’s with AN/APG-63v3’s than a multirole focused APG-70, that would be more useful on the F-15E platform.
still not J-10, sigh... AND VT-5 ...
I think they'll add the J-10 when they add the Su-33 and the F-18.
@@sonwig5186 super cool, a jet thats should be added with gripen, f-16 etc cuz its LIGHT fighter with max 6-8 missiles, and they gonna add it when its gonna be useless, hell bro, even now its too late, J-11 would be better propably at everything so lel
@@SuiSideexyeah the F-18a and early versions are also useless now. Gaijin makes so much money from premium money and has a good player count but they love to still copy and paste the most anticipated airframes. And do things like add R27ER with no competition from any country for over a year.
@@ursensitiveinagayway4016they’ll probably have to skip straight to the Super Hornet at this point. Before that they’ll probably throw in the last F14 being the D model.
Doesn't really matter as long as they are keeping it 16v16. Ain't no way I'm coming back just to have 60-80 ARH missiles flying at me. If they add some specific 4th gen that could be over 100 missiles, since they can carry 10 ARH...
Yeah they definitely need to reduce player count. It’s already bad enough and is about to get way worse.
Fucking France getting Leopard 2 is really nice ffs.
People will probably still complain. Despite the 2A4 and 2A6 addition. Same thing happened with Sweden until they recognized what they actually got.
They'd rather add German overrated boxes than buff the Leclerc and make it even slightly accurate in any way
Bruh please stop giving every nation Leo 2s like god damn
Soon Russia will also get one 💀
Honestly just surprised the Canadian Leopard isn’t going to the British, would make the most sense to me.
The T90S definitely should’ve gone to USSR though India has stronger ties to modern Russia and the tank is Russian.
Whereas Canada is still very strongly tied to the Brits historically and today so them getting the leopard would make sense. They already have a few Canadian vehicles including the Canadian ADATS(M113)
@@ICECAPPEDSKY I mean the Germans also have a Canadian tank as well
Top tier Sherman lol
@@ScottishSquirrel_ legitimately, and just like a lot of instances with the Sherman there’s no need for that many
Idk why you only have 1k subs cause you make so great videos keep going ❤🎉
bro the eurofighter is from 2004 and the su27 from 2002 where is this way too advanced
correct me if i´m wrong
The year the plane was introduced has nothing to do with when it will be added or what it will face. It’s all about balance
Ah yes big f15 but still keeps the f4 phantom at 11.0 which means you can go f4pahantom Vs 15aj
Nice vid like the gameplay
Where my Hornets :(
Another update where another country “cough cough Russia” gets an aircraft 2 decades ahead of everyone else because anything they had at the same time couldn’t compete 🙄
Where the fuck is the damn fencer 😭
I JUST WANT F18
Dose the su27sm have trust vectoring ?
It doesnt
хороший бой на су-27 (думаю су27 так и останется лучшим самолётом в тундре) надо бы мне начинать качать Русскую лётку)
No F18😭
the snide at Russian jets advancedness was great and gave me a chuckle
will the f-16c get the amraam?
It will get at least the AIM-120A
@@Will_Is_Awesome Thanks will that's good to know, Great vid!!
Even tho the F-16C in game couldnt carry the aim120A like the aim7 series in game it probably will. (Its important to note the F-16C is a 2005 variant)
is the us gonna get a f16 with aim120?
It should
The block 50 can and will carry them
Yeah they will probably just update the F16C block 50’s loadout
Israel doesnt get f15c?
They could, the list doesn’t cover everything
@@Will_Is_Awesome i hope so
ty
So damn sick of copy paste
I love how the Radar text is small but I dont know how to get it, can you help me?
What do you mean?
It may be something to do with your UI size in settings
Will is *YES!*
Not a sonic video, unsubbed.
:(
@@Will_Is_Awesomeill replace that unsub with a sub
@@Will_Is_Awesomeme too
Hype
First, Great video tho