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@Vitor Hara dude... that pacers team was one of the best... so good in fact, that they pushed brons miami to the limit. Dont disrespect the 12 to 14 pacers, their time in the light was short but damn they were amazing
Joakim Noah did deserve that 1st All NBA selection in 2014 fam. His playmaking and outstanding defence is the only thing that really kept the Bulls alive that year.
"Joakim Noah wasn't that great".... You obviously never watched him play... He dragged a bulls team without another all star to the playoffs pretty much by himself, and was the best defender by far in the NBA over a 2/3 year period... He was an elite athlete and literally an MVP candidate in 2014. His game is outdated now but to question his peak is crazy
There was lack of talent gotta agree there one was injuries and teams were still stuck on old age Basketball I liked these years aswell but it was a weak time in basketball I think this is one of the reasons lebron was able to dominate
I actually disagree with this whole vid actually. 2010-11 lebron going to the heat & the pressure of them winning a championship, Drose MVP season, & also Dirk historic playoff run. 2011-12 it was a lockout season, but we had a fire ASG, playoff battles Heat vs Celtics, Okc vs Spurs, and Lebron playoff game 6, & lebron 1st ring. 2012-13 was overall great, Lebron historic season, Miami Heat 27 game win streak, Okc winning 60 games & also knicks being good, & the finals back & forth with ray allen hitting one of the most important shots in history. 2013-14 Kd Mvp season, Joakim Noah playing like a beast and...... Yeah not going to lie this year was pretty weak. 2014-15 Lebron returning to Cleveland forming another big 3. Warriors being a surprise team. Also the playoffs was competitive 1st round Clippers vs Spurs, Bulls vs Bucks. 2nd round Bulls vs Cavs, Clippers vs Rockets, Warriors vs Grizzlies. The finals where Lebron got 2 wins by himself against the stack warriors team without love or kyrie.
2014 had the best first round ever. On the West Spurs and Mavs go to 7. Thunder and Grizzlies go to 7. Warriors vs Clippers go to 7. Lillard game 6 game winner. Indiana vs Atlanta and Nets vs Raptors are 7 game series. It was the best first round ever.
Joakim Noah was amazing 3rd in mvp voting me because he carried the bulls to 45+ wins without drose a true point center the heart and soul of the bulls and you disrespecting him is sad and shows how awfully quick people forget
Bro I loved those teams. Dirk’s darkhorse Mavs, the Spurs’ beautiful system, the grit of Memphis, Melo and JR going crazy in New York, the Pacers and Bulls pushing Lebron’s Heat while the Celtics somehow managed to stay competitive, Lob City, and of course that Thunder team with all the potential in the world
Defense was still a thing. That's what I miss the most. But now When I go to watch a few games at the bar and see a 92-86 score halfway through the 3rd Qtr. Its embarrassing to watch. Like wtf...they literally just let the opposition score and wait for offense. No one wants to play defense league wide.
This might be the best argument for stats not telling the story. Only someone who didn’t watch those seasons would say something like this. 2010-15 seasons were no where near the worst. If anything, the seasons after that were Bc it was everyone fighting to lose to the Warriors. Watching Kobe trying to carry the injured super Lakers was amazing! Like his game against the raptors where he went crazy in the 4th quarter. The mavs championship run. The grizzlies and their bully ball w/ Marc & ZBo, were always a threat to steal a series and did a couple of times. Young OKC was fun to watch and always a threat. The pacers teams that battled with Miami in the playoffs. MIAMI BIG 3! The Knicks team w Melo & Amare. Could’ve actually beat Miami if Amare didn’t injure himself. I still remember a Knicks vs bulls game where Melo hit a 3 to send it to OT and hit another 3 in the same spot to win the game. Westbrook’s injury was actually good. We got to see KD with his own team and he was going crazy. I still remember the game where he dropped 50 on the warriors and hit that crazy shot over Green. Think KD hit a game winner against Dallas that year too. Was ADs crazy game winning 3 against Dallas in one of those years? Spurs were always good, watching them demolish the heat in the finals rematch was amazing. Idk if it was during that stretch, but I remember one year the West was so close, the 8th seed was like a 45+ win team (think it was the suns). Nuggets were another good team, even when they didn’t have a star. A team of role players still winning games. Didn’t Lob City Clippers start around that time too? Another exciting team to watch and they were deep. Finally thought CP3 would win. D12 and Harden on the Rockets hit the league hard. That matchup in the playoffs against the Blazers was crazy! Dame & LA Blazers were a solid team (no one thought they’d win it all, but solid). Love was balling in Min, putting up 30 and 20 games. Linsanity?! Think the Nets put together that failed super team as well, was interesting to see what they did. Wizards starting winning again, Wall broke out. I remember their battles against Toronto and Paul Pierce hitting game winners. The NBA was much more competitive. Teams were more spread out. Most teams had a superstar + a star, or multiple stars. So almost all primetime games were competitive and worth the watch (which is definitely not the case now, some primetime games are horrible). It wasn’t a lock for any team to make and win the finals. When the heat formed we knew they’d do well, but we still thought Boston (almost did), Knicks, and pacers (once they actually played), could actually beat them. There were so many memorable moments from different teams in those years. The years after that was all Cavs and Warriors. We knew the warriors would win it all every year. All the highlights and memories from those years are all Cavs and warriors finals clips Bc the regular seasons were pointless. Of course I may be remembering some things a little off, but the point is that 10-15 was wayyyy better than the years after it. More moments/memories and more competitive. Even now, there was talks of Tobias Harris making the all star team this year. He wouldn’t even be looked at in 10-15. The numbers are inflated now, so of course the stats looked better. Defense was better in 10-15. You had to actually be a fan of basketball at that time and watched. And not just look at some stats.
BlackMamba314 if you’re gonna say Tobias Harris wouldn’t be an all star in 10-15 then Jokiam Noah definitely wouldn’t. Gobert would blow him outta there
Scary Spongebob might just be me hating. I didn’t watch him with the clips at the beginning of the season. But I know he was scoring a lot. So I just assumed he was a product of the new fast paced scoring nba. Just thought it was crazy that he was in all star talks. I never really watched him on the clips. Knew he was decent w Orlando and pistons. Watched a little of him on Philli now, and he looks like he improved his scoring, but still looks like the same player. I know the all star talks were early in the season when clippers were doing well and I think he had a high scoring average, so maybe the talks were too early, Small sample size, and prisoner of the moment. He doesn’t have the same role in Philli that he did in LA, but I don’t see all star. Maybe I should’ve watched him in LA
Aaries Harris Noah was an energy guy. Kind of like Draymond Green. He hustled and played 110% every play. I think that’s what got his all stars, didn’t he win a DPOY too? I remember when he started getting assist and people started calling him an amazing center. I was so confused, Bc the Bulls were literally running plays for him to get the ball at the top and pass to cutters, so it wasn’t like he was Jokic or Gasol. I do think Noah was hyped. But the hype was deserved. He didn’t have skill, just a high motor and hustle. That’s why he’s back in the league now.
@@jorgeanta2912 you tripping. there was games where the heat and Pacers would only score 72 each... so yea there was still defense . its not like the 2000 where it was 50 to 50
@@Mike-zw9zv no I'm not tripping the rules of that era were virtually the same since 03 so no the defense wasn't when it was still allowed to play. before 03 is when there was more on defense until that year when the nba made so many rules to heavily benefit offensive players
They didn't enforce the actual rule changes until the 2005-2006 season which coincides with damn near every perimeter player except D Wade and T Mac over the past 25 years career scoring high season
Well a lot more people have been watching with anticipation hoping anybody could upset the Warriors, y’all can’t say you didn’t enjoy that Warriors-Rockets series. When it’s all over and done, everybody will be able to appreciate what this team has done, Same thing happened to the bulls.
I mean it does raise the competition though, Makes the league exciting. Look at the amount of moves team made since the 15/16 season, and huge moves at that. It makes it fun and unpredictable. The way the talent is spread out in this era is not great but i mean i dont think it will ever get any better. Winners pair up with winners. Even in the 90's when you had an enormous amount of contending teams, The Bulls were still considered overpowered.
bro u tripping, this was one of funniest stretches in NBA history, a clean mixture of team play, 3pt shooting, defense, good solid teams, your typical powerhouse about a million rivalrys, scoring wasnt too low nor too high and games were competitive, it was exciting watching and wasn't a bunch of threes going up and scoring 50 points meant something and getting a triple double was actually hard, there were actually good games, going based off purely off of stats is ridiculous, if u actually watch those games u would know how fun this stretch was
@@TheNamesDitto THANK YOU BRUH like every part of the court was integrated into everyone's offensef, from the post to highpost, to baseline, the three point line to the wing to the paint, everything was just so balanced not just three after three
It was so much fun to watch, I miss those days, every night felt different and matchups were a thing now its all about how many threes a team can make which is good for offenses analytically but imo it kills the competitivness of the game
LoW you're tripping b. You're coming at a league that was overall more entertaining than now just because there's less inflated stats than today due to rule changes, coaching and stylistic philosophies, etc. From a narrative standpoint there was a lot of really nice storylines that made the league really nice to follow. There were multiple seasons where the champions were not a foregone conclusions, plus we still had teams that didn't all play the same with the excessive 3 point shot jacking and small ball that at times becomes a hollow experience to watch. The thibs bulls could get it done scoring 85 points and playing defense while teams like okc, San antonio and others could light it up. This time period feature the last remnants of consistent defense, and physical play as well. Also I don't see how a 28 ppg scoring champion is unimpressive. There were less possessions in the game then and teams weren't scoring 120 a night. I feel like people who followed the league at this time would agree this was a dope period for the NBA especially due to the storylines
I miss the late 80s-90s game with touch defense. Wasnt anything out of the ordinary to see a 85 to 88 final score. And it was FUN to watch because you were excited about the defensive aspect. Basketball is watered down so much right now
But still the talent like gordon Gilbert Jefferson and Morrison and oden roy were all injured they would have been good players but that 5 year stretch was bad and good
@@jon_gotteiner7169 the storyline of Westbrook going Sicko Mode bc of Durants departure was everything that season. He's saying that even tho they were mediocre, they were still always relevant
You lost me on this one lol Those years were fire🔥Some of the best basketball to watch period, And All Jefferson was a low post god WHAT ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT
You were really losing me but I'm completely lost at the point when you trashed prime Noah. Wasn't he defensive MVP? Wasn't he the best C in the NBA? Don't fall to in love with stats my guy your missing the forest. Even Hibbert was an animal before they changed the rule on going up, hardly makes him shit
I'm not coming back to this video to give it anymore views. D12 was my favourite childhood NBA player, I'll defend this dude forever for the lack of respect he gets so I feel you there but never the less what Noah did was great too. People like this dude in the video act like if you're not shooting 3s spreading the floor you are garbage. The real stat for presence and no one was taking it at Noah but box scores just don't show that I guess. New fans. You dont need to drop 20 points to be elite as an anchor otherwise I guess big Ben was trash too huh
If you watch the games you’ll see that this era was pretty awesome. 1) Dirk became an all-time great after the historic 2011 run 2) LeBron finally won the rings he coveted and in the process, created one of the league’s dynasties 3) KD ascended and bloomed into a great scorer 4) The old Spurs won in 2014, cementing Duncan’s excellence while also putting Kawhi on the stage 5) LeBron returned to Cleveland 6) Steph Curry and the Warriors won the MVP and 67 games respectively, ushering in a new era. 7) The Celtics- Lakers Finals giving Kobe his 5th ring All in all, a pretty awesome stretch of basketball. The blend of the old and the new.Stats aren’t everything
1974 to 1979 was worse five years stretch I've ever experienced! For the worst teams... 1990s expansion years took the cake : Vancouver, Toronto, Minnesota, Dallas, etc. About poor All-Star selections : 2000-2005 were simply bad : Jamaal Magloire (2004), Dale Davis (2000), Antonio Davis (2001), Wally Szczerbiak (2002), Mehmet Okur, Anthony Mason (2001), Vlade Divac (2001), Steve Francis (career lows in 2004), Brad Miller (2003), Grant Hill (4 games).
I'm sorry, but 2015 - present has been unbearable to watch. I mean, if you're a fan of 138-125 score games, then this is your kind of ball, but I remember when I could actually watch the regular season & be entertained instead of a predictable Cavs vs Warriors finals every damn year. Honestly, who the hell actually enjoys the NBA currently when everyone knows in the back of their minds that it will be the Warriors holding up the trophy again? Give me 2008-2010 when you had a legit 8 teams that ALL HAD THE TALENT to win a title. Not this 2 team league bullshit that the NBA has turned into since 2015. The 2019 season is a little better in terms of talent being spread across the league, but 2015-2018 was absolute garbage when everyone knew it was gonna be Warriors & Cavs each year.
@@karnasinghjawanda9596 The 1st half of the season was entertaining, but at some point, it was clear the Warriors were head & shoulders better than everyone else in the West. They were 67-15 for a reason, & had a cupcake ride to the finals. The Spurs were a 6th seed & would've had to have beaten the Clippers, Rockets, & Warriors ALL on the road just to make the finals. Pretty Daunting task if you ask me.
Actually about this year, I'd have to disagree. I'd say there are 7 solid title contenders right now. The emergence of the Bucks, Toronto's upgrade in play with Kawhi, and the Harris trade to the Sixers make them all contenders (Boston's out in my book). Out west, the emergence of the Nuggets, Clippers, and Kings have been the stories of the league so far this season, with DEN being legit title contenders, along with OKC with presumable MVP PG13 has put pressure on the West's top teams, (DEN and GSW) and the Rockets when healthy are the biggest threat to Golden State. The Warriors lacked depth before Cousins was able to heal and with him he's averaging negative net ratings and is unable to finish games due to foul trouble. He hasn't improved at all since he returned and that's worrisome for the Warriors. They also are distracted with KD, Klay and Draymond's contracts this upcoming offseason. The title contenders have been slow out of the gates from the all star break, with the exception of the Raptors, and the team playing its best ball rn is the Kings, with the Lakers looking like they've given up tells me the playoff race in the west could be an all time great one. Nets are a playoff team in the east and the Hornets will have to try their hardest to make the 8th seed.
@@slimypickle19 What are you talking about? In 2015, there were 7 teams in the West that had 50 wins that year. The only reason it wasnt 8 was because Kevin Durant was injured the entire season. Lob City, the reigning Spurs, Portland led by Dame and McCollum, James Harden and the Rockets, the always underrated 2010's Grizzlies who were a pain in any up and coming team's neck. There were a ton of contenders that year. NOBODY expected the Warriors to even make it to the Finals, hell the Conference Finals, forget WINNING HE CHAMPIONSHIP that year. Everyone talks about how an injured Cavs team took them to 6 games but NOBODY mentions getting through the West that year wasnt exactly a piece of cake. And the Cavs beat them the following year when they were depleted (Draymond Suspension, Iguodala and Bogut injury, Curry MCL sprain) but of course nobody mentions that.
2010 to 2016 were actually good seasons, Lakers won the Finals in 2010 in 7 games in Kobe's final appearance in the Finals, the Mavs came outta nowhere in 2011 which was Legendary, 2012 brought us Lebron's first title which is now memorable, 2013 was had a great season and the Finals were Legendary w Ray Allen's game 6 3 pointer and Im a Spurs fan, in 2014 the Spurs were on a Mission and won it all with the Beautiful Game, 2015 was my only exception the Warriors beat an injured Cavs team the playoffs were actually good tho, and 2016 was the Legendary Blown 3-1 Lead by a 73-9 team. 2016 offseason to now are the worst 3 year stretch in NBA history if the Warriors win in 2019 a boring lame overpowered team always wins against no adversity and pure luck because the other teams best player gets injured the day the Warriors get dethroned will be the best moment in NBA history. Edit: This guy is a pure Warriors fan for saying now is the best the NBA is ever been I hate the NBA rn just a Gayrriors fest.
I honestly think the game right now is the worst it's ever been. A bunch of uncontested 3's, wide open lanes and no defense. I've started to watch a lot more college because it seems that at least when a guy drives the lane someone is going to challenge him. I can't even watch the NBA anymore it's like a YMCA pick up game now. Defense makes the game more competitive.
I've never understood this take. It's college where you have guys legit not caring about the games at all more so than the NBA. Usually the defense isn't good, it's just the offenses are complete trash as well. I'd rather watch high school ball than NCAA outside of March Madness cuz that's when guys actually care.
i don't like the lack of defense either it's crazy to me.... seeing teams with 100+ points in the 3rd quarter.... but i still enjoy the game and i like the 3 ball
@@roscoedash6673 college players don't care? Wtf. That's about the opposite. Everyone, and I mean everyone knows college players go hard because they trying to get noticed. Russell Westbrook was drafted because he was a good defender. They had no idea he was going to become a triple double guy. You're backwards as hell on this man
@@KiddsWorldEntertainment the only cool thing is a few of the young players developing. which of course doesnt matter in a race to second place. viewership has declined this year for a reason. east playoffs tho, might be a lil interesting thats bout it. west is predictable
Had KD gone too a different team this year would be fun same with cousins but they ring chased cause people but a lot of emphasis on rings media and fans I think it’s not as important as people make it out too seem and ranking players is dumb I think we should just look at greats by different eras my opinion
Idk I felt like the evolution of basketball in my opinion make the game more boring to watch every team using data and stats and I get teams trying to do what ever it takes to win, but a lot of teams now are either shooting lay ups or chucking 3s. With more teams having higher scoring numbers it makes it less impressive when someone dose a great accomplishment James Hardens streak for example.
@@JoeBro915 Poor coaching didn't help in game 7 for the Rockets. He at least should have had them drive inside after that first stretch of missed threes. They totally could have won that series and won the Finals.
@@JoeBro915 right? Dudes want to chuck 3s and and drive in with no d to get a easy layup, or his friends on the other team let.him get a nice dunk. NBA is bad. Real bad.
Back then you had guys like Tony Allen who ability to lock up your best player was to me just as equally amazing to see as a great offensive performance
Nah, You got this one twisted up... Those years are what brought me back to watching the nba. Most international fans would agree...The whole LeBron drama moving to Miami topped by the Mavs upset, Derrick Rose Bull's team, the return of the fundermental game play by the Spurs thus killing the Kobe iso hero basketball, the potential rise of that young Okc team which eventually had 3 mvp's and ultimately the suprise Warriors who changed the game bringing it into a new era with smallball, ball/player movement and bombing form deep.... 2000-2009 was the worst for me due to Jordan Retiring and the Shaq/Kobe lakers really turned me off.... The league has been in a better this decade as compared to the last one
Stop disrespecting Rudy Gobert by saying that Joakim Noah was him but a better passer. Joakim Noah was good, but maybe he got more credit than he deserved.
Gobert was still a valuable player for the jazz after he got injured those jazz teams were bad but when he came back he was having one of his best seasons and won DPOY but noah was a better passer then him
I loved these years because of the number of teams that were contenders. The heat of course, spurs, pacers, knicks and bulls for a little bit, celtics, grizzlies, thunder, clippers, lakers, mavericks, like dang. There were legit arguments for many many teams to win the title during those years. Yes, talent at an individual perspective was a little skeptical, but at a competitive standpoint, really fun to watch.
@@alfredoizg789 2 for 4 in the finals when the expectations were championship or bust. I would put at least 6 trios above them. Even Shaq and Kobe got more rings as a duo unless you want to include Derrick Fisher as their big 3 😆
Lob City, the 2011 Mavs run, everyone out to get the Heat, PG and the Pacers, Linsanity, the Grit and Grind Grizzlies, The Spurs, a young and beloved OKC team, true rivalries still existing, it was beatiful man. The 2014 playoffs are some the best we’ve ever watched, especially the first round. The stats dont show it because teams still emphasized team play and rugged defense rather than the stat padding one man show today. The only things I would hold against it are all the injuries and how had the East was for these years
nahh all u need to know is 2010-2015 was the period of MVP Rose. That 2010-12 stretch is good enough to carry the 5 year period so your entire video is invalid
@@alfredoizg789 exactly. ive always admired thought legend of winning for having a mind of his own and making bold videos but this was completely off. You cant judge seasons based on stats which he did 70% of the video. It involves story lines.. context... eye tests..
@@decades143 It's really telling he wasnt watching the league at that time. Which is fine, just dont talk about things you dont know otherwise you end up looking like a fool lol.
Watching this time was entertaining though It wasn't about scoring but winning, Id rather see a 25 point point leader than a 35 point scorer on a scrub team that is "rebuilding" You knew the top teams would compete every day they played and that's what mattered I do say I remember thinking there probably won't be another 60 point game, a few days before Lebron did it vs the Bobcats coincidentally, because teams were focused more on strategy than show.....guess things have changed
If you actually watched these seasons you would know how entertaining they were. The playoffs during this five year stretch were also incredibly entertaining. In 2010 we had a Celtics Lakers Finals series with Kobe and the big 3 Celtics. In 2011 Dirk and the underdog Mavericks beat the heavy championship favorites in the Miami Heat. In 2012 we got to watch the incredibly entertaining series’ between the Heat and Pacers and the Heat and Celtics, and then got to watch LeBron win his first ring. In 2013 the East playoffs were entertaining once again, and then we got one of the best Finals series of all time with Ray Allen hitting the big three to force game 7. In 2014 we got another great Finals series between the Heat and Spurs and the Spurs got their revenge and most NBA fans were happy to see the Heat not three-peat. In 2015 we witnessed Steph Curry and the Warriors blossom into one of the best and most entertaining teams the league has ever seen. These seasons are what made me love the NBA.
Those 5 years were the best 5 years in recent memory where competition was high for nearly all teams. Stats isn't everything. People who just focus on stats are the worst kind of people
From 2013-2014 was a fun season for me as a Bulls fan, Joakim carried us to 45+ wins, finished 3rd in MVP voting, won DPOY, All-NBA 1st Team & Defensive Team honors & had one of the most memorable series to date (Nets vs. Bulls Game 4 3 OT thriller) where Nate Robinson went BONKERS on the Nets, definitely was a fun one.
Piripiao Yeah the Heat were just too good. It still amazes me how well those Bulls teams played even with all the injuries they had. They could never stay healthy.
The fact that you're counting the number of 30+pt seasons as well as 20&10 seasons to decide how entertained you are shows that you have a very unique viewpoint on the game. Also, the fact that you're hating on Noah and Gasol because they weren't elite offensive players (even though they were some of the best defenders in the league) but then also hate or harden because he didn't play enough defense doesn't really make sense. The way I see it, these years were some of the most entertaining in league history. Unlike today, each year we had no idea who was going to with the title. Although most people assumed that the Heat would run away with it, they lost to the Mavs in 2011, were down 3-2 to the Celtics in 2012, Were 5 seconds from losing against the Spurs in 2013, and lost in 2014. Back then the league actually had parity. Sure, you can argue that the league today is more entertaining because teams are scoring 140 points consistently and there are a few more guys averaging 20&10, but I would much prefer to watch basketball be played like it was played in that 5 year period than it is today. Back then we would watch teams grind out a 95-92 win while playing scrappy defense, while today we have to watch teams dribble up the court and shoot a contested 28 footer with 20 seconds left on the shot clock, just because analytics says that threes are the better shot. However, I don't blame you if you like the style of play more in today's NBA, offense is very entertaining. But, at least during that 5 year period we didn't have to watch the fucking Warriors sweep their way through the finals year after year.
Honestly the worst season I ever saw was the 2016-17 nba season. You had a WEAK eastern conference and then a golden state warriors team that was unbeatable and the only team that looked like they could possibly take them in a 7 game series was the spurs who lost Kawhi in game 1.
Ah everyone in the comments with the nostalgia bug again... One thing I can't stand about basketball fans is that they whine constantly about how the league currently sucks and then a few years later that same shitty season is all of a sudden "the good old days". I remember in the 90s all the old heads saying the league was trash because the pace was shit and there was no parody.... Sound familiar!? My older brothers said people said the same thing during the 80s and people act like the 80s NBA is untouchable now.
I was so disappointed with the Pacers and Clippers because they were talented enough to make the finals but literally crumbled year after year also the Nets
The 5 year time frame you were talking about was when it was fun to watch GS. It was also and era when legends began to lose to father time and young upandcoming stars were slowly but surely were getting their footing in the pros. Oh yeah and the world was ruled by the heat. Hate or love it.
Can't believe I watched this... just because guys didn't average 30 ppgs?? When they lead the league in scoring. It's called defense... until recently, there is no defense being played because of the time changes
Players like Joakim Noah and Roy Hibbert were not meant to be stat sheet stuffers who were fun to watch. They filled their roles extremely well and helped lead teams to decent playoff runs over that 5 year stretch. Instead of only focusing on specific player stats, I feel like it would have been more telling if you would’ve looked into the team records, playoff situations, rivalries and more over those 5 years. Unlike today’s NBA, which I still really love, teams did not allow one guy to dominate the stats and heavily rely on them to carry the load in that period. The league was largely team based, at least the teams that consistently made the playoffs, and I feel like you are discrediting that short era a bit too much.
yh a list that includes the 2nd best player of all time, the 3rd best sg of all time, one of the best pg's of all time (chris paul), two of the best scorers ever in kd and melo and then a defensive beast who could also put up 20pts (dwight) ISN'T THAT IMPRESSIVE!!! Thats the dumbest thing I have ever heard you say!!!
You just can't base it on stats alone. If you were really were watching from 2010-2015, they were actually more entertaining and less predictable. A 36 year old Tim Duncan was very good, and so was Noah who was the best center in 2014.
I don’t think he means it was boring to watch. I think he just means the talent pool was the worst. Which is kind of true. Looking at all the stars & stats today, & even way back in history. They look better than the 2010-2015 stars. Back then, IMO it was only Lebron, KD, and Derrick Rose before he got hurt. & maybe PG. however now. I can name so many superstars.
This was actually a really cool stretch of years. Yes if you look at stats it was boring, but the big 3 heat, the Spurs, OKC, even teams like Dallas, and LAC were really fun to watch if you watched their games and put the box score down
So because the scoring champs during those five years weren’t averaging eye-popping numbers that makes that five year span the worst in NBA history? Give me a break those 5 Years were Way better than the last five years in the NBA.
I can't even believe I watched this bullshit. I may not be understanding it, but kd, melo, and Russ winning the scoring title was weak? Do you watch basketball or just stat chase? Unsub. I'm questioning your basketball knowledge.
High scoring doesn’t mean the League is better. It’s damn near hard to watch some games today with the lack of defensive intensity and low priority on defense. I’d rather watch 2010’s hoop than the modern 3-pt contest
Uhm, the Spurs-Heat series that goes to 7 because of some Ray Allen's miraculous 3... The Pacers-Heat series went back and forth whenever they meet in the playoffs... 2012 Celtics VS Heat that went to 7 and we witness the angry Lebron game in TD Garden when his team down 3-2... The Finals matchup between the Mavs and Heat... 2014 OKC with MVP Durant going toe to toe with the Grizzlies in 7 games(4 OT games out of 7) and the Spurs molly whooping every team they face in 2014 except for the 8th seeded Mavs who push them to 7... Yeah, lots of storyline in the 2010-2015 era... Oh and don't forget the year the lob city Clippers beat the Spurs in a wild 7 game series, and then lost to Josh Smith and Corey Brewer in game 6 and proceeded to blew a 3-1 series lead... Warriors and Cavs went toe to toe despite Lebron losing Kyrie and Love in the Finals
I honestly don’t think that the NBA was bad during this period, the league was just different, less threes being shot, slower pace and focus was on different things. The reason why the league became different after 2015 was because of the Golden State Warriors, they completely changed the league and upped the pace, thus the inflated number were seeing now
The whole 2010's is weak to me not just that 5 year period the refs are trash and it seems like players care more about stats than actually winning. Only 2 seasons this decade that were great and that's 2013 & 2016.
@@charlescooks9360by you saying there were no players that averaged 20 pt & 10 reb just proved my point. This decade is more about Stats padding and showboating than actual winning.
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Okay this is such a trash video
This is soooooo..... stupid
2012-2013 was a dope season tho
yeah and unironically that was the last time the Knicks were good
2010-2011 was too
@Vitor Hara they were good
Best year for the Clippers too, just a shame Chauncey blew out his Achilles
@Vitor Hara dude... that pacers team was one of the best... so good in fact, that they pushed brons miami to the limit.
Dont disrespect the 12 to 14 pacers, their time in the light was short but damn they were amazing
Joakim Noah did deserve that 1st All NBA selection in 2014 fam. His playmaking and outstanding defence is the only thing that really kept the Bulls alive that year.
@devil dreed your comment just sent me back about 20 years in grammar
devil dreed bro did you joakim play that year??
@devil dreed fucking casual
Pretty sure it was Tom thibadou but ok
3rd E So was it Thibs that go Noah to finish 4th in MVP voting that year? 🤔
"Joakim Noah wasn't that great".... You obviously never watched him play... He dragged a bulls team without another all star to the playoffs pretty much by himself, and was the best defender by far in the NBA over a 2/3 year period... He was an elite athlete and literally an MVP candidate in 2014. His game is outdated now but to question his peak is crazy
The fact that he was an MVP candidate just proves LOW's point right
I don’t think he’s talking about the best budget cards man...
@@joshbarnes3836 LMFAO
Also that he had a triple double without getting big points too
Noah was a dog bro
this 5 year stretch was pretty entertaining tho
2012 - 2013 Pacers was sweet.
Especially the warriors
The heat was ballin
Lob city too🔥🔥🔥
2016 was the worst, KD joining the warriors was messed up
Ur watching stats not the game so I have to disagree, All those were entertaining seasons
OG Jawdinz FACTS
OG Jawdinz exactly. The video was entertaining, but I can’t agree with it at all.
every season is entertaining... they where still weak tho
There was lack of talent gotta agree there one was injuries and teams were still stuck on old age Basketball I liked these years aswell but it was a weak time in basketball I think this is one of the reasons lebron was able to dominate
I enjoyed them. Especially 2011. My Mavs won lol.
I actually disagree with this whole vid actually.
2010-11 lebron going to the heat & the pressure of them winning a championship, Drose MVP season, & also Dirk historic playoff run.
2011-12 it was a lockout season, but we had a fire ASG, playoff battles Heat vs Celtics, Okc vs Spurs, and Lebron playoff game 6, & lebron 1st ring.
2012-13 was overall great, Lebron historic season, Miami Heat 27 game win streak, Okc winning 60 games & also knicks being good, & the finals back & forth with ray allen hitting one of the most important shots in history.
2013-14 Kd Mvp season, Joakim Noah playing like a beast and...... Yeah not going to lie this year was pretty weak.
2014-15 Lebron returning to Cleveland forming another big 3. Warriors being a surprise team. Also the playoffs was competitive 1st round Clippers vs Spurs, Bulls vs Bucks. 2nd round Bulls vs Cavs, Clippers vs Rockets, Warriors vs Grizzlies. The finals where Lebron got 2 wins by himself against the stack warriors team without love or kyrie.
i think he meant overall talent pool and not dope moments
Every year has fire moments, but 2010-2015 was weak in terms of talent
2014 had the best first round ever. On the West Spurs and Mavs go to 7. Thunder and Grizzlies go to 7. Warriors vs Clippers go to 7. Lillard game 6 game winner. Indiana vs Atlanta and Nets vs Raptors are 7 game series. It was the best first round ever.
Don't forgot Grizzlies went to WCF in 2013 even though they got swept by spurs
Bro was bored making this video disrespecting Noah like that
Joakim Noah was amazing 3rd in mvp voting me because he carried the bulls to 45+ wins without drose a true point center the heart and soul of the bulls and you disrespecting him is sad and shows how awfully quick people forget
I agree , Joakim has heart
He was actually 4th, but I see what you're saying.
Low doesn't know what he's talking about half the time
Thank you, the box score didn’t capture what he did or what a lot of those players back then brought to the table
He wasn't the same after that season. Coach thibs played him to the ground till his knees disappeared.
Bro I loved those teams. Dirk’s darkhorse Mavs, the Spurs’ beautiful system, the grit of Memphis, Melo and JR going crazy in New York, the Pacers and Bulls pushing Lebron’s Heat while the Celtics somehow managed to stay competitive, Lob City, and of course that Thunder team with all the potential in the world
Defense was still a thing. That's what I miss the most. But now When I go to watch a few games at the bar and see a 92-86 score halfway through the 3rd Qtr. Its embarrassing to watch. Like wtf...they literally just let the opposition score and wait for offense. No one wants to play defense league wide.
Ryan Ralph Facts! It sucks that there’s no room for a Tony Allen in today’s league anymore
This might be the best argument for stats not telling the story. Only someone who didn’t watch those seasons would say something like this. 2010-15 seasons were no where near the worst. If anything, the seasons after that were Bc it was everyone fighting to lose to the Warriors. Watching Kobe trying to carry the injured super Lakers was amazing! Like his game against the raptors where he went crazy in the 4th quarter. The mavs championship run. The grizzlies and their bully ball w/ Marc & ZBo, were always a threat to steal a series and did a couple of times. Young OKC was fun to watch and always a threat. The pacers teams that battled with Miami in the playoffs. MIAMI BIG 3! The Knicks team w Melo & Amare. Could’ve actually beat Miami if Amare didn’t injure himself. I still remember a Knicks vs bulls game where Melo hit a 3 to send it to OT and hit another 3 in the same spot to win the game. Westbrook’s injury was actually good. We got to see KD with his own team and he was going crazy. I still remember the game where he dropped 50 on the warriors and hit that crazy shot over Green. Think KD hit a game winner against Dallas that year too. Was ADs crazy game winning 3 against Dallas in one of those years? Spurs were always good, watching them demolish the heat in the finals rematch was amazing. Idk if it was during that stretch, but I remember one year the West was so close, the 8th seed was like a 45+ win team (think it was the suns). Nuggets were another good team, even when they didn’t have a star. A team of role players still winning games. Didn’t Lob City Clippers start around that time too? Another exciting team to watch and they were deep. Finally thought CP3 would win. D12 and Harden on the Rockets hit the league hard. That matchup in the playoffs against the Blazers was crazy! Dame & LA Blazers were a solid team (no one thought they’d win it all, but solid). Love was balling in Min, putting up 30 and 20 games. Linsanity?! Think the Nets put together that failed super team as well, was interesting to see what they did. Wizards starting winning again, Wall broke out. I remember their battles against Toronto and Paul Pierce hitting game winners. The NBA was much more competitive. Teams were more spread out. Most teams had a superstar + a star, or multiple stars. So almost all primetime games were competitive and worth the watch (which is definitely not the case now, some primetime games are horrible). It wasn’t a lock for any team to make and win the finals. When the heat formed we knew they’d do well, but we still thought Boston (almost did), Knicks, and pacers (once they actually played), could actually beat them. There were so many memorable moments from different teams in those years. The years after that was all Cavs and Warriors. We knew the warriors would win it all every year. All the highlights and memories from those years are all Cavs and warriors finals clips Bc the regular seasons were pointless.
Of course I may be remembering some things a little off, but the point is that 10-15 was wayyyy better than the years after it. More moments/memories and more competitive. Even now, there was talks of Tobias Harris making the all star team this year. He wouldn’t even be looked at in 10-15. The numbers are inflated now, so of course the stats looked better. Defense was better in 10-15. You had to actually be a fan of basketball at that time and watched. And not just look at some stats.
BlackMamba314 if you’re gonna say Tobias Harris wouldn’t be an all star in 10-15 then Jokiam Noah definitely wouldn’t. Gobert would blow him outta there
BlackMamba314 I agree with everything, confused on the Tobias Harris slander... but besides that this comment is golden
Scary Spongebob might just be me hating. I didn’t watch him with the clips at the beginning of the season. But I know he was scoring a lot. So I just assumed he was a product of the new fast paced scoring nba. Just thought it was crazy that he was in all star talks. I never really watched him on the clips. Knew he was decent w Orlando and pistons. Watched a little of him on Philli now, and he looks like he improved his scoring, but still looks like the same player. I know the all star talks were early in the season when clippers were doing well and I think he had a high scoring average, so maybe the talks were too early, Small sample size, and prisoner of the moment. He doesn’t have the same role in Philli that he did in LA, but I don’t see all star. Maybe I should’ve watched him in LA
Aaries Harris Noah was an energy guy. Kind of like Draymond Green. He hustled and played 110% every play. I think that’s what got his all stars, didn’t he win a DPOY too? I remember when he started getting assist and people started calling him an amazing center. I was so confused, Bc the Bulls were literally running plays for him to get the ball at the top and pass to cutters, so it wasn’t like he was Jokic or Gasol. I do think Noah was hyped. But the hype was deserved. He didn’t have skill, just a high motor and hustle. That’s why he’s back in the league now.
BlackMamba314 best thing I heard all 10 minutes
As a pacers fan, I’m sick of you disrespecting Roy Hibbert 😂😂
As a fellow Pacer Fan, Roy Hibbert was trash😂😂
Stash Ketchum as a Pacer fan who lives in Indy also, Roy Hibbert was shit
@@eastxsidexswagg He was good in his prime (for like 2 years) as a defender but everyone only cares about stats
He gave us 2 good years in Indy
Cameron Johnson as a non pacers fan, he was ass
I honestly thought I was the only person that just looked up random Basketball Reference stats 😂
Nah I literally do this all the time as well 🤣🤣
When I’m bored as hell in class
If you don't are you even an NBA fan?
Sadly some of y’all worship it like a god
Lol
This was an era where defense was still allowed to be played too. You gotta take that into consideration
defense during that era to now isn't that much different compared to the defense of the very early 200s
@@jorgeanta2912 you tripping. there was games where the heat and Pacers would only score 72 each... so yea there was still defense . its not like the 2000 where it was 50 to 50
@@Mike-zw9zv no I'm not tripping the rules of that era were virtually the same since 03 so no the defense wasn't when it was still allowed to play. before 03 is when there was more on defense until that year when the nba made so many rules to heavily benefit offensive players
💯 Yea it's a whole different era now. No defense allowed
They didn't enforce the actual rule changes until the 2005-2006 season which coincides with damn near every perimeter player except D Wade and T Mac over the past 25 years career scoring high season
This 5 year stretch was my favorite stretch of basketball ever the year the warriors won the title the nba has been boring to me
joseph Birmingham exactly, tf dude talking bout
Well a lot more people have been watching with anticipation hoping anybody could upset the Warriors, y’all can’t say you didn’t enjoy that Warriors-Rockets series. When it’s all over and done, everybody will be able to appreciate what this team has done, Same thing happened to the bulls.
I agree i enjoy the competition more back then
Its still competitive smh Rockets just gave the Warriors a run for there money
I mean it does raise the competition though, Makes the league exciting. Look at the amount of moves team made since the 15/16 season, and huge moves at that. It makes it fun and unpredictable. The way the talent is spread out in this era is not great but i mean i dont think it will ever get any better. Winners pair up with winners. Even in the 90's when you had an enormous amount of contending teams, The Bulls were still considered overpowered.
bro u tripping, this was one of funniest stretches in NBA history, a clean mixture of team play, 3pt shooting, defense, good solid teams, your typical powerhouse
about a million rivalrys, scoring wasnt too low nor too high and games were competitive, it was exciting watching and wasn't a bunch of threes going up and scoring 50 points meant something and getting a triple double was actually hard, there were actually good games, going based off purely off of stats is ridiculous, if u actually watch those games u would know how fun this stretch was
Ahh I miss when teams scored just enough and could still shoot midrange shots.
@@TheNamesDitto THANK YOU BRUH like every part of the court was integrated into everyone's offensef, from the post to highpost, to baseline, the three point line to the wing to the paint, everything was just so balanced not just three after three
Facts
It was so much fun to watch, I miss those days, every night felt different and matchups were a thing now its all about how many threes a team can make which is good for offenses analytically but imo it kills the competitivness of the game
Defense? Where lol
LoW you're tripping b. You're coming at a league that was overall more entertaining than now just because there's less inflated stats than today due to rule changes, coaching and stylistic philosophies, etc. From a narrative standpoint there was a lot of really nice storylines that made the league really nice to follow. There were multiple seasons where the champions were not a foregone conclusions, plus we still had teams that didn't all play the same with the excessive 3 point shot jacking and small ball that at times becomes a hollow experience to watch. The thibs bulls could get it done scoring 85 points and playing defense while teams like okc, San antonio and others could light it up. This time period feature the last remnants of consistent defense, and physical play as well. Also I don't see how a 28 ppg scoring champion is unimpressive. There were less possessions in the game then and teams weren't scoring 120 a night. I feel like people who followed the league at this time would agree this was a dope period for the NBA especially due to the storylines
I miss the late 80s-90s game with touch defense. Wasnt anything out of the ordinary to see a 85 to 88 final score. And it was FUN to watch because you were excited about the defensive aspect. Basketball is watered down so much right now
But still the talent like gordon Gilbert Jefferson and Morrison and oden roy were all injured they would have been good players but that 5 year stretch was bad and good
15-16 was arguably the greatest NBA season ever, so I guess that makes up for this 5 year stretch
I think this year will pass it come playoff time
So basically Curry saved the NBA
BANG BAAANGGG WHATA SHOT FROM CURRY!!!!
Yaga James so basically warriors in 4 vs everything
Lockjaw Yeah, in the off-season. That season itself was excellent, KD’s move happened after the season.
The year i hated the most was 2016-2017 it was hortible it was basically warriors cleveland and okc
Also Houston, Spurs, Celtics and Raptors
thatboy dre If Zaza’s bitch ass didn’t injure Kawhi, the Playoffs could have been a lot more exciting though
thatboy dre Okc was definitely not up there in 2017
@@jon_gotteiner7169 the storyline of Westbrook going Sicko Mode bc of Durants departure was everything that season. He's saying that even tho they were mediocre, they were still always relevant
Okc?
You lost me on this one lol
Those years were fire🔥Some of the best basketball to watch period, And All Jefferson was a low post god WHAT ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT
Hes young, he doesnt give a shit about good big men. I hate how the league has went to small ball basically everywhere. No more dominant big guys
The disrespect for Marc gasol at the end has me feelin some type of way
He hates big guys apparently
Ryan Ralph because he doesn’t actually watch basketball.
Hes a stat nerd
You were really losing me but I'm completely lost at the point when you trashed prime Noah. Wasn't he defensive MVP? Wasn't he the best C in the NBA? Don't fall to in love with stats my guy your missing the forest. Even Hibbert was an animal before they changed the rule on going up, hardly makes him shit
The Knicks situation was an excuse for people to forget about Joakim
I'm not coming back to this video to give it anymore views. D12 was my favourite childhood NBA player, I'll defend this dude forever for the lack of respect he gets so I feel you there but never the less what Noah did was great too. People like this dude in the video act like if you're not shooting 3s spreading the floor you are garbage. The real stat for presence and no one was taking it at Noah but box scores just don't show that I guess. New fans. You dont need to drop 20 points to be elite as an anchor otherwise I guess big Ben was trash too huh
Don't compare ben wallace to noah ben a completely different type of animal nigga was lbj height shutting down 7fters
Low never watched ball until the warriors dynasty and it shows to this day
If you watch the games you’ll see that this era was pretty awesome.
1) Dirk became an all-time great after the historic 2011 run
2) LeBron finally won the rings he coveted and in the process, created one of the league’s dynasties
3) KD ascended and bloomed into a great scorer
4) The old Spurs won in 2014, cementing Duncan’s excellence while also putting Kawhi on the stage
5) LeBron returned to Cleveland
6) Steph Curry and the Warriors won the MVP and 67 games respectively, ushering in a new era.
7) The Celtics- Lakers Finals giving Kobe his 5th ring
All in all, a pretty awesome stretch of basketball. The blend of the old and the new.Stats aren’t everything
See but you could name 10 monumental things about ANY 5 year stretch
@@farleyhaskard5270 🎯
@@farleyhaskard5270 do 2003-2008
IDK what point you were trying to in the video. They were fun seasons, stats don't tell the whole story.
I remember there would be only 1 to 3 50 point games a year from 2011-2015 and now someone does it every week.
facts
they still played defense during that stretch. now you can't even look at the player and get foul calls
probably they still play defense
so true
1974 to 1979 was worse five years stretch I've ever experienced!
For the worst teams... 1990s expansion years took the cake : Vancouver, Toronto, Minnesota, Dallas, etc.
About poor All-Star selections : 2000-2005 were simply bad :
Jamaal Magloire (2004), Dale Davis (2000), Antonio Davis (2001), Wally Szczerbiak (2002), Mehmet Okur, Anthony Mason (2001), Vlade Divac (2001), Steve Francis (career lows in 2004), Brad Miller (2003), Grant Hill (4 games).
I agree with all except Francis. Healthy Stevie Franchise was a beast of a PG.
W
Dave Toussaint Divac was pretty solid tbh. Kinda like the 2000s version of al horford
For Okur, 2007 was the year he was an All-Star.
You saying the 90s have the worst teams?
i started watching ball in this five yr stretch. shit was amazing. tf u sayin
I'm sorry, but 2015 - present has been unbearable to watch. I mean, if you're a fan of 138-125 score games, then this is your kind of ball, but I remember when I could actually watch the regular season & be entertained instead of a predictable Cavs vs Warriors finals every damn year. Honestly, who the hell actually enjoys the NBA currently when everyone knows in the back of their minds that it will be the Warriors holding up the trophy again?
Give me 2008-2010 when you had a legit 8 teams that ALL HAD THE TALENT to win a title. Not this 2 team league bullshit that the NBA has turned into since 2015. The 2019 season is a little better in terms of talent being spread across the league, but 2015-2018 was absolute garbage when everyone knew it was gonna be Warriors & Cavs each year.
slimypickle19 nobody knew who was going to be in the in 2015 everybody picked spurs vs cavs to be the finals
@@karnasinghjawanda9596 The 1st half of the season was entertaining, but at some point, it was clear the Warriors were head & shoulders better than everyone else in the West. They were 67-15 for a reason, & had a cupcake ride to the finals. The Spurs were a 6th seed & would've had to have beaten the Clippers, Rockets, & Warriors ALL on the road just to make the finals. Pretty Daunting task if you ask me.
Actually about this year, I'd have to disagree. I'd say there are 7 solid title contenders right now. The emergence of the Bucks, Toronto's upgrade in play with Kawhi, and the Harris trade to the Sixers make them all contenders (Boston's out in my book). Out west, the emergence of the Nuggets, Clippers, and Kings have been the stories of the league so far this season, with DEN being legit title contenders, along with OKC with presumable MVP PG13 has put pressure on the West's top teams, (DEN and GSW) and the Rockets when healthy are the biggest threat to Golden State. The Warriors lacked depth before Cousins was able to heal and with him he's averaging negative net ratings and is unable to finish games due to foul trouble. He hasn't improved at all since he returned and that's worrisome for the Warriors. They also are distracted with KD, Klay and Draymond's contracts this upcoming offseason. The title contenders have been slow out of the gates from the all star break, with the exception of the Raptors, and the team playing its best ball rn is the Kings, with the Lakers looking like they've given up tells me the playoff race in the west could be an all time great one. Nets are a playoff team in the east and the Hornets will have to try their hardest to make the 8th seed.
@@AmericaWest90 cmon now. You are naming teams that have been better this year than they were last year. Doesnt make em on GS level in a 7 game series
@@slimypickle19 What are you talking about? In 2015, there were 7 teams in the West that had 50 wins that year. The only reason it wasnt 8 was because Kevin Durant was injured the entire season. Lob City, the reigning Spurs, Portland led by Dame and McCollum, James Harden and the Rockets, the always underrated 2010's Grizzlies who were a pain in any up and coming team's neck. There were a ton of contenders that year. NOBODY expected the Warriors to even make it to the Finals, hell the Conference Finals, forget WINNING HE CHAMPIONSHIP that year. Everyone talks about how an injured Cavs team took them to 6 games but NOBODY mentions getting through the West that year wasnt exactly a piece of cake. And the Cavs beat them the following year when they were depleted (Draymond Suspension, Iguodala and Bogut injury, Curry MCL sprain) but of course nobody mentions that.
2010 to 2016 were actually good seasons, Lakers won the Finals in 2010 in 7 games in Kobe's final appearance in the Finals, the Mavs came outta nowhere in 2011 which was Legendary, 2012 brought us Lebron's first title which is now memorable, 2013 was had a great season and the Finals were Legendary w Ray Allen's game 6 3 pointer and Im a Spurs fan, in 2014 the Spurs were on a Mission and won it all with the Beautiful Game, 2015 was my only exception the Warriors beat an injured Cavs team the playoffs were actually good tho, and 2016 was the Legendary Blown 3-1 Lead by a 73-9 team. 2016 offseason to now are the worst 3 year stretch in NBA history if the Warriors win in 2019 a boring lame overpowered team always wins against no adversity and pure luck because the other teams best player gets injured the day the Warriors get dethroned will be the best moment in NBA history.
Edit: This guy is a pure Warriors fan for saying now is the best the NBA is ever been I hate the NBA rn just a Gayrriors fest.
I honestly think the game right now is the worst it's ever been. A bunch of uncontested 3's, wide open lanes and no defense. I've started to watch a lot more college because it seems that at least when a guy drives the lane someone is going to challenge him. I can't even watch the NBA anymore it's like a YMCA pick up game now. Defense makes the game more competitive.
I've never understood this take. It's college where you have guys legit not caring about the games at all more so than the NBA. Usually the defense isn't good, it's just the offenses are complete trash as well. I'd rather watch high school ball than NCAA outside of March Madness cuz that's when guys actually care.
John Doe so you haven’t watched an OKC or Raptors game this year I see
Shit, I've seen YMCA games that are way more competitive than the NBA games I've seen this year.
i don't like the lack of defense either it's crazy to me.... seeing teams with 100+ points in the 3rd quarter.... but i still enjoy the game and i like the 3 ball
@@roscoedash6673 college players don't care? Wtf. That's about the opposite. Everyone, and I mean everyone knows college players go hard because they trying to get noticed. Russell Westbrook was drafted because he was a good defender. They had no idea he was going to become a triple double guy. You're backwards as hell on this man
nba is more boring now than that era
yea this season trash
Idk man the East playoffs will be great.
Meek This season has been great compared to the past few years
@@KiddsWorldEntertainment the only cool thing is a few of the young players developing. which of course doesnt matter in a race to second place. viewership has declined this year for a reason. east playoffs tho, might be a lil interesting thats bout it. west is predictable
Had KD gone too a different team this year would be fun same with cousins but they ring chased cause people but a lot of emphasis on rings media and fans I think it’s not as important as people make it out too seem and ranking players is dumb I think we should just look at greats by different eras my opinion
Idk I felt like the evolution of basketball in my opinion make the game more boring to watch every team using data and stats and I get teams trying to do what ever it takes to win, but a lot of teams now are either shooting lay ups or chucking 3s. With more teams having higher scoring numbers it makes it less impressive when someone dose a great accomplishment James Hardens streak for example.
i agree
Fax, I hate that the midrange isn't relevant anymore bc of the statistic bs. That's the real reason the rockets missrd a chance on going to the finals
@@JoeBro915 Poor coaching didn't help in game 7 for the Rockets. He at least should have had them drive inside after that first stretch of missed threes. They totally could have won that series and won the Finals.
@@JoeBro915 right? Dudes want to chuck 3s and and drive in with no d to get a easy layup, or his friends on the other team let.him get a nice dunk. NBA is bad. Real bad.
Then 2015-2016 is arguably the greatest nba season of all time
@Skip Bayless that ain't even 2nd
@Skip Bayless 😂😂😂😂😂 *NO WAY IN HELL*
2015-16 is no.1
2014-2015! Why are you adding 2015-2016???
@Skip Bayless I wasn't even a thought during that season
2010 2011
What about Danny granger being on the list of players who were injured, he was a star and was young
Lowkey 2010-2011 2011-2012 and 2012-2013 were good seasons
Back then you had guys like Tony Allen who ability to lock up your best player was to me just as equally amazing to see as a great offensive performance
Nah, You got this one twisted up... Those years are what brought me back to watching the nba. Most international fans would agree...The whole LeBron drama moving to Miami topped by the Mavs upset, Derrick Rose Bull's team, the return of the fundermental game play by the Spurs thus killing the Kobe iso hero basketball, the potential rise of that young Okc team which eventually had 3 mvp's and ultimately the suprise Warriors who changed the game bringing it into a new era with smallball, ball/player movement and bombing form deep.... 2000-2009 was the worst for me due to Jordan Retiring and the Shaq/Kobe lakers really turned me off.... The league has been in a better this decade as compared to the last one
This video doesn’t make sense, anyone who watched the NBA during that stretch just knows how entertaining the NBA was with how balanced it was
Joakim Noah was basically Rudy Gobert with a far better passing game, shut ya mouth
Rudy was never an MVP runner up let alone he’s never even made the allstar team U shut yours dumb ass
Stop disrespecting Rudy Gobert by saying that Joakim Noah was him but a better passer. Joakim Noah was good, but maybe he got more credit than he deserved.
Kevin1242 hell yea 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Gobert was still a valuable player for the jazz after he got injured those jazz teams were bad but when he came back he was having one of his best seasons and won DPOY but noah was a better passer then him
@@VonJaye Rudy was a top 6 in MVP in 2018 bruh 🤡🤡
honestly this was my favorite years of the nba
The heat? Mavs run? Young Okc? Clippers vs Warriors rivalries? You trippin.
Worst 5 years????? Dude now is the worst era of superteams and boring 3 point games.
Bro the LeBron Miami heat era was my favorite time in all the years of nba.
I loved these years because of the number of teams that were contenders. The heat of course, spurs, pacers, knicks and bulls for a little bit, celtics, grizzlies, thunder, clippers, lakers, mavericks, like dang. There were legit arguments for many many teams to win the title during those years. Yes, talent at an individual perspective was a little skeptical, but at a competitive standpoint, really fun to watch.
In 2010-2015 tho defense was actually allowed
This was a great era in my opinion way more entertaining than the past 5 yrs 🤷🏽♂️
We are now at a point in basketball where the Heatles era is being disrespected by statsheet warriors.
Exactly, like are we forgetting that trio is a top 5 trio all time at worst.
@@alfredoizg789 2 for 4 in the finals when the expectations were championship or bust. I would put at least 6 trios above them. Even Shaq and Kobe got more rings as a duo unless you want to include Derrick Fisher as their big 3 😆
Lob City, the 2011 Mavs run, everyone out to get the Heat, PG and the Pacers, Linsanity, the Grit and Grind Grizzlies, The Spurs, a young and beloved OKC team, true rivalries still existing, it was beatiful man. The 2014 playoffs are some the best we’ve ever watched, especially the first round. The stats dont show it because teams still emphasized team play and rugged defense rather than the stat padding one man show today. The only things I would hold against it are all the injuries and how had the East was for these years
I noticed that in 2k aswell, the ratings for players have been up.
also, it was ridiculous that not a single player averaged 20 and 10 reb in 2013...stats really suffered in that stretch
This foolish man forgets that defense was allowed to be played during those times
nahh all u need to know is 2010-2015 was the period of MVP Rose. That 2010-12 stretch is good enough to carry the 5 year period so your entire video is invalid
As a Pacer fan I can't stand CHI, for obvious reasons. But I swear, when bulls highlights/game came on you wanted to see him play
Bro that dirk playoff run alone is a top 3 playoff run time if not THE best we’ve seen in modern era. This guys is a wanker lol
@@alfredoizg789 exactly. ive always admired thought legend of winning for having a mind of his own and making bold videos but this was completely off. You cant judge seasons based on stats which he did 70% of the video. It involves story lines.. context... eye tests..
@@decades143 It's really telling he wasnt watching the league at that time. Which is fine, just dont talk about things you dont know otherwise you end up looking like a fool lol.
During that stretch there was a lot of playoff teams under 500.
Swagbucks sounds like it was made up by Tom Haverford
Watching this time was entertaining though
It wasn't about scoring but winning, Id rather see a 25 point point leader than a 35 point scorer on a scrub team that is "rebuilding"
You knew the top teams would compete every day they played and that's what mattered
I do say I remember thinking there probably won't be another 60 point game, a few days before Lebron did it vs the Bobcats coincidentally, because teams were focused more on strategy than show.....guess things have changed
Don't disrespect my boy Marc Gasol like that
12-13 were the last time my Knicks and Nets were relevant
Quibol0 I know I’m happy and I hopped on the Nets bandwagon, however, the Knicks are the Knicks and in truly exited for when BOTH aren’t jokes
nets were relevant in 2014
If you actually watched these seasons you would know how entertaining they were. The playoffs during this five year stretch were also incredibly entertaining. In 2010 we had a Celtics Lakers Finals series with Kobe and the big 3 Celtics. In 2011 Dirk and the underdog Mavericks beat the heavy championship favorites in the Miami Heat. In 2012 we got to watch the incredibly entertaining series’ between the Heat and Pacers and the Heat and Celtics, and then got to watch LeBron win his first ring. In 2013 the East playoffs were entertaining once again, and then we got one of the best Finals series of all time with Ray Allen hitting the big three to force game 7. In 2014 we got another great Finals series between the Heat and Spurs and the Spurs got their revenge and most NBA fans were happy to see the Heat not three-peat. In 2015 we witnessed Steph Curry and the Warriors blossom into one of the best and most entertaining teams the league has ever seen. These seasons are what made me love the NBA.
These are literally the years I got into basketball because it was entertaining. You on your Collin Cowherd.
I loved the loved the 12-13 season and playoffs and the 14 playoffs were all time great
That’s when the playoffs were fun to watch
2011-2014 was good ass times, NBA used to be loyal, we didnt have cowards like KD, Demarcus Cousins
Lmaoooooooooooo you got these kids pissed. You aren't really wrong either lol
LOW worst video by far 😕
1999-2004, the TV ratings says it all, along with the offensive production and the Eastern conference being pretty awful in 2000-2004.
I actually stopped watching the NBA from 2010-2015 coincidentally. It was the 2015-2016 season that really got me back in.
And let me guess, you stopped watching when KD joined the warriors
A lot of people would say the 3 years of Durant warriors are the worst ever because the finals are useless
Dude these were some of the best years in the nba what are you talking about???
Those 5 years were the best 5 years in recent memory where competition was high for nearly all teams. Stats isn't everything. People who just focus on stats are the worst kind of people
Back when kd wasn’t a snake
Stop and it's not funny
Not funny 😒😡😡😒☹️😡😒😡
Lol ikr
@@michaelgonzalezgonzalez239
Crappy bandwagon warriors fan
From 2013-2014 was a fun season for me as a Bulls fan, Joakim carried us to 45+ wins, finished 3rd in MVP voting, won DPOY, All-NBA 1st Team & Defensive Team honors & had one of the most memorable series to date (Nets vs. Bulls Game 4 3 OT thriller) where Nate Robinson went BONKERS on the Nets, definitely was a fun one.
I love Nate Robinson to this day after that series, shit was insane. TO THIS DAY! TO THIS DAY!
@@jhupp8707 You and I both bro! That game was awesome
Piripiao when he swatted Lebron in the next series I legit thought the Bulls were gonna upset the Heat he was on a tear lol
@@jhupp8707 Yo that was actually epic lol they even stole Game 1 on the road, i legit thought it was going 6 but LeBron had other plans.
Piripiao Yeah the Heat were just too good. It still amazes me how well those Bulls teams played even with all the injuries they had. They could never stay healthy.
So LeBron supposedly dominated was a bad era 🤷♂️
The fact that you're counting the number of 30+pt seasons as well as 20&10 seasons to decide how entertained you are shows that you have a very unique viewpoint on the game. Also, the fact that you're hating on Noah and Gasol because they weren't elite offensive players (even though they were some of the best defenders in the league) but then also hate or harden because he didn't play enough defense doesn't really make sense.
The way I see it, these years were some of the most entertaining in league history. Unlike today, each year we had no idea who was going to with the title. Although most people assumed that the Heat would run away with it, they lost to the Mavs in 2011, were down 3-2 to the Celtics in 2012, Were 5 seconds from losing against the Spurs in 2013, and lost in 2014. Back then the league actually had parity.
Sure, you can argue that the league today is more entertaining because teams are scoring 140 points consistently and there are a few more guys averaging 20&10, but I would much prefer to watch basketball be played like it was played in that 5 year period than it is today. Back then we would watch teams grind out a 95-92 win while playing scrappy defense, while today we have to watch teams dribble up the court and shoot a contested 28 footer with 20 seconds left on the shot clock, just because analytics says that threes are the better shot.
However, I don't blame you if you like the style of play more in today's NBA, offense is very entertaining. But, at least during that 5 year period we didn't have to watch the fucking Warriors sweep their way through the finals year after year.
Chris Bosh peaked mid late 2000s. He had to take a step back in Miami. Same with Dwayne wade to a lesser degree
Honestly the worst season I ever saw was the 2016-17 nba season. You had a WEAK eastern conference and then a golden state warriors team that was unbeatable and the only team that looked like they could possibly take them in a 7 game series was the spurs who lost Kawhi in game 1.
You mean the Years Lebron was in Mami
Ah everyone in the comments with the nostalgia bug again... One thing I can't stand about basketball fans is that they whine constantly about how the league currently sucks and then a few years later that same shitty season is all of a sudden "the good old days". I remember in the 90s all the old heads saying the league was trash because the pace was shit and there was no parody.... Sound familiar!? My older brothers said people said the same thing during the 80s and people act like the 80s NBA is untouchable now.
I was so disappointed with the Pacers and Clippers because they were talented enough to make the finals but literally crumbled year after year also the Nets
As a Heat fan 🔥 and four consecutive trips to the NBA Finals 🏆 I loved this 5 year stretch 😂
The 5 year time frame you were talking about was when it was fun to watch GS. It was also and era when legends began to lose to father time and young upandcoming stars were slowly but surely were getting their footing in the pros. Oh yeah and the world was ruled by the heat. Hate or love it.
Can't believe I watched this... just because guys didn't average 30 ppgs?? When they lead the league in scoring. It's called defense... until recently, there is no defense being played because of the time changes
I liked the NBA finals from 2012-14.
Players like Joakim Noah and Roy Hibbert were not meant to be stat sheet stuffers who were fun to watch. They filled their roles extremely well and helped lead teams to decent playoff runs over that 5 year stretch. Instead of only focusing on specific player stats, I feel like it would have been more telling if you would’ve looked into the team records, playoff situations, rivalries and more over those 5 years. Unlike today’s NBA, which I still really love, teams did not allow one guy to dominate the stats and heavily rely on them to carry the load in that period. The league was largely team based, at least the teams that consistently made the playoffs, and I feel like you are discrediting that short era a bit too much.
yh a list that includes the 2nd best player of all time, the 3rd best sg of all time, one of the best pg's of all time (chris paul), two of the best scorers ever in kd and melo and then a defensive beast who could also put up 20pts (dwight) ISN'T THAT IMPRESSIVE!!! Thats the dumbest thing I have ever heard you say!!!
And the yo say even if you include the 2nd best sg of all time and the best shooter ever. STFU
dwayne wade peaked 2006-2010
You just can't base it on stats alone. If you were really were watching from 2010-2015, they were actually more entertaining and less predictable. A 36 year old Tim Duncan was very good, and so was Noah who was the best center in 2014.
Andrew Bynum.... Dude I wish he wasn't injured....
This is a perfect example of why you can’t form an opinion solely off of stats.
He’s right though. Players wise, this era was sort of weak.
That was D Rose peak so you’re wrong
I don’t think he means it was boring to watch. I think he just means the talent pool was the worst. Which is kind of true. Looking at all the stars & stats today, & even way back in history. They look better than the 2010-2015 stars. Back then, IMO it was only Lebron, KD, and Derrick Rose before he got hurt. & maybe PG. however now. I can name so many superstars.
And now we’re currently in OBJECTIVELY one of the worst eras in NBA history
This was actually a really cool stretch of years. Yes if you look at stats it was boring, but the big 3 heat, the Spurs, OKC, even teams like Dallas, and LAC were really fun to watch if you watched their games and put the box score down
Joakim Noah was nice, FOH
So because the scoring champs during those five years weren’t averaging eye-popping numbers that makes that five year span the worst in NBA history? Give me a break those 5 Years were Way better than the last five years in the NBA.
I can't even believe I watched this bullshit. I may not be understanding it, but kd, melo, and Russ winning the scoring title was weak? Do you watch basketball or just stat chase? Unsub. I'm questioning your basketball knowledge.
High scoring doesn’t mean the League is better. It’s damn near hard to watch some games today with the lack of defensive intensity and low priority on defense. I’d rather watch 2010’s hoop than the modern 3-pt contest
Ummmm.... The Mavs 2011 Championship??!
Just about the only redeeming thing about that stretch of time in the league.
Love the Peja’s revenge on Lakers, 10 years after they were robbed of NBA finals
Uhm, the Spurs-Heat series that goes to 7 because of some Ray Allen's miraculous 3... The Pacers-Heat series went back and forth whenever they meet in the playoffs... 2012 Celtics VS Heat that went to 7 and we witness the angry Lebron game in TD Garden when his team down 3-2... The Finals matchup between the Mavs and Heat... 2014 OKC with MVP Durant going toe to toe with the Grizzlies in 7 games(4 OT games out of 7) and the Spurs molly whooping every team they face in 2014 except for the 8th seeded Mavs who push them to 7... Yeah, lots of storyline in the 2010-2015 era... Oh and don't forget the year the lob city Clippers beat the Spurs in a wild 7 game series, and then lost to Josh Smith and Corey Brewer in game 6 and proceeded to blew a 3-1 series lead... Warriors and Cavs went toe to toe despite Lebron losing Kyrie and Love in the Finals
@@NEOhioTrainFan Dumb take
It’s funny how you bring this up because I remember watching the NBA and thinking that I could hand with them. Now I don’t stand a chance
So I wasn't the only one thinking this. I remember there was one year where Omer Asik was among the leaders in rebounds with only 11
seeing as how thats objectively false, no you dont
I honestly don’t think that the NBA was bad during this period, the league was just different, less threes being shot, slower pace and focus was on different things. The reason why the league became different after 2015 was because of the Golden State Warriors, they completely changed the league and upped the pace, thus the inflated number were seeing now
Also not as many super teams, only about 2 or 3 maybe, comment let me hear what y’all think
I totally agree - shocked this isn’t talked about more often. 2000-2010 was amazing, especially relative to 2010-2015
2000 is definitely the best decade for me
Skip Bayless Are you talking about the nba or in general
Skip Bayless nah 2000s all the way wwe ruthless aggression Cartoon Network Nickelodeon life everything
Skip Bayless 90s boring
Karna Jawanda 2010s are boring
LOW is the GOAT
The whole 2010's is weak to me not just that 5 year period the refs are trash and it seems like players care more about stats than actually winning. Only 2 seasons this decade that were great and that's 2013 & 2016.
2013 was clearly not great. No 20 and 10 players. Great finals tho
@@charlescooks9360by you saying there were no players that averaged 20 pt & 10 reb just proved my point. This decade is more about Stats padding and showboating than actual winning.
americanfresh17 2011?