Today: END of the Pac-12 Conference
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- Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2023
- On June 30, 2022, amid the broader early-2020s NCAA conference realignment, UCLA and USC announced plans to leave the Pac-12 for the Big Ten Conference starting in 2024. On July 27, 2023, Colorado announced it would be leaving the conference to re-join the Big 12 starting in 2024. On August 4, 2023, Oregon and Washington announced plans to also join the Big Ten in 2024. On the same day, Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah announced plans to follow Colorado to the Big 12, which would have left the Pac-12 with just four member schools. On September 1, 2023, the Atlantic Coast Conference voted to add Stanford and Cal in 2024, dropping conference membership to just Oregon State and Washington State for the 2024-25 season. On September 8, 2023, Oregon State and Washington State filed a lawsuit against the Pac-12 and Commissioner George Kliavkoff in Washington State Superior Court for control of the conference and its assets. As the legal battle plays out, Yahoo! Sports reported that the Pac-12 is "expected to operate as a two-member conference at least for [2024]" and would be recognized under a two-year grace period, until 2026, to meet conference requirements in the NCAA bylaws.
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as a Minnesotan, the Big 10 going coast to coast is gonna cost us dearly within about 5 years. i think everybody agrees that conferences should be geographically aligned.
Westcoast colleges will suffer most than Eastcoast colleges.
As a Bruin, I agree. This is not just unsustainable for the student athletes, but for families and support staff as well. How is our respective fan bases supposed to travel? The PAC 12 was already spread far. I know I don’t necessarily have the time or funds to fly and watch a Golden Gopher v Bruin game in Minnesota and fly out a couple weeks later to Pennsylvania. No way. Nor should you have to trek all the way to LA or the Pacific Northwest. So ridiculous
@@rich_b_groovin1790: Yes agreed, but I cannot wait for ex PAC colleges to play f/b outdoors against BIG colleges during Nov snow freeze season.
Unless the big 2 breaks away from the ncaa and sets up its own league/division, which seems to be the trajectory
@@cjhan9816 Some of us have been to Pullman, Boulder, and Salt Lake City. Cold is one thing, altitude is another.
Makes zero sense. I’m still upset over this.
All about $$$$$$$
@@bobbyhamblen2338 Unfortunately.
Money over TV deals
As a Utah fan it was a incredible day when they announced that we would be joining the pac 12 conference from being a small school and getting a chance to join the big dogs was incredible I’m truly so sad that the conference is ending and I know the people at Utah did not want to leave either. I feel the most bad for Oregon state and Washington state they are truly getting left behind
As a Bruin, I was also happy Utah and Colorado came on board. It was a perfect fit. Plus, with 12 teams, we were able to finally have conference tournaments. This whole thing is a shame.
Yeah that was a great day, made even better by byu going independent because they felt left out 😂
Just remember something - the only reason UU got in was because Larry Scott couldn't get OU, OSU, UT, A&M, or TTU to join his dream "Pac-16", and since they had brought in Colorado, they needed a 12th team. Also bear in mind that a lot of Big 12 fans would rather have WSU or OSU instead of UU because of the snide remarks UU leadership made about the Big 12 and the way Kyle Whittingham continues to be an ass about the move, hoping to be in the same conference with UCLA again in five years. I wish Brett Yormark had left UU and ASU out in the cold and taken WSU and OSU instead.
maybe its just me but i loved pac 12 after dark games
It wasn’t much more than you. That was part of the problem.
The comic part was where big 12 fans thought taking over that timeslot would benefit them. And that conference isn’t really taking over that time slot.
I'm a Bay Area USC alum and I'm gutted at the loss of the PAC. The "weekender" tradition as we called it is gone. I still can't believe we won't be playing Cal and Stanford every year anymore.
Larry Scott destroyed this conference years ago.
We will see what happens in 10-15 years. There will be numerous schools on the outside with these super conferences. There maybe another huge realignment again in a few years.
No mention of Wazzu & Oregon State getting left behind?
They got really screwed
Stanford and Cal going to the ACC makes about as much sense as the Nashville Sounds being in the Pacific Coast League. 🤔🙄
PAC-12 was offered $31M per team from ESPN after USC & UCLA said they were leaving. PAC-12 got greedy and turned down the offer. Then ESPN offered the same deal to the B12 who accepted. Now 4 PAC-12 schools are joining the B12. B1G loved Cal & Stanford academic but their revenue sports are poor so they didn’t want them. B12 wasn’t a cultural and academic fit in the B12 so all that was really left was flying cross country to play in the ACC.
Brody Oregon and Washington are both moving to the Big Ten. However, I do find this sad and stupid still.
But scheduling from season to season may eliminate their head-to-head matchups - no annual guarantee maybe?
It's not stupid from a business perspective. Ask yourself... What would you do? Stay in one place you've been at for over 100 years and make $20 million annually? Or so across the coast and make $100 million annually? I dunno bout you but $100 million is a lot more than $20 million. USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington did exactly what anybody with any ounce of common sense would've done. So I understand the move completely.
Respectfully, the money is doubtful as you present it and the student-athlete experience pales.
@@danielharrington1891 theyre guarantee match ups like Mich/ tOSU
Destroying a 108 yr old conference and leaving WSU/OSU behind for what? Tossing tradition, geographic rivalries, and history out of the window is just beyond sad. Totally unavoidable and why college athletics is entering a dark era. NIL/Transfer portal is the wild west and hugely favors the big, rich schools. Disgusted...
The hubris of Larry Scott had a lot to do with the rupture of the Pac-12, especially with the bone-headed decision to not partner up with a bigger network & headquarter it in San Franciso so Scott wouldn't have to leave his home area too often. In case one is curious as to where most of the other sports (not football or basketball) are going, check out the MPSF.
MPSF?
Mountain Pacific Sports Federation
Thank you to our host. Totally agree. Colossal blunder to break up this geographical conference. Team travel is one thing cross country, but what about family members.
Blame the Supreme Court and our dumb antitrust laws. There should have been at least an exemption for the NCAA. But conferences get to have their own TV contracts now. Those that don't get good enough deals end up like the Pac 12.
@@vincesmith2499 The NCAA can't have anti-trust because they are deliberately and empathically violating the sherman act even as they rake in billions of dollars in revenue. They could have their anti-trust in a matter of months if they would only stop exploiting their athletes.
The fact that they refused to define "amature" in their pathetic lawsuit when asked because they might have had to pay them $1,500 per year shows just how much contempt they have for the players.
also, SMU is joining the ACC next season just like cal and Stanford
This should be a day of mourning along the Left Coast. The NCAA left you for dead, and you should be rightly pissed off. Yes, I'm from Pittsburgh root for Eastern schools, but I have always enjoyed the Rose Bowl for the Big 10/Pac 10 matchup. Now that's gone, and it's a damn shame.
The Rose Bowl was going to end that tradition anyway. College football had to progress towards a legitimate national championship tournament.
To be fair i don't think the PAC 12 is gone forever. We'll see how this works thru 2028. But if it doesn't work don't be surprised to see the PAC 12 making a return down the road. We all know Cal and Stanford in the ACC isn't going to work very well. Never say never.
Hi Brodie, I'm an American expat living in Liverpool, England (I lived in SF for 5 years in the late 90s). I really enjoy your channel. I feel bad about whats been happening lately regarding the PAC 12 and the A's(and the East bay for that matter) and got to say you have been nailing it on those issues. All the best from the UK, P 👍
It's disgusting. I only follow baseball now. The conference re alignments and changes the last 30 years make me sick....all $$$$.....
hah... apparently you haven't followed oakland baseball
@@brodiebrazil I've been A's fan since birth, first game 1980 attended. Fisher makes Finley look very reasonable.
I think a lot of this will come full-circle years down the road when many of these schools realize what a mistake they made agreeing to be in conferences nowhere close to them geographically and playing opponents in soulless games with no shared history. I believe if Wazzu & Oregon State find a way to backfill and keep the Pac alive, some of these schools will come back to the Pac later on. Especially if there is more future consolidation of the "power" conferences which will inevitably leave more schools on the outside looking in.
All done in service to football....I feel.sorry for the students in other sports with a more gruelling schedule. How can you expect a kid playing baseball to keep up with their studies when they spend all their time travelling across the continent for half the week, especially in the spring months leading up to exams
I feel upset about both Oregon State and Washington State, they didn’t get the chance to join another conference or having other teams coming in to join the pac 10/12
cal and standford were absolutly left behind, it was either try to rebuild the conference with oregon state and washington state by picking up a bunch of mountain west schools or straight up move to the mountain west. both of those would probably lose them their power conferance status. their only option was to move and the big 10 rejected them and the big 12 probably wouldve too. i know cal and standford are a "rivalry" but they should both be really thankful for each other because i dont know if the acc takes them in individually. and geographically at least they have each other near by
Stanford can now build a rivalry with Duke. Duke is like the Stanford of the Southeast.
Stanford has the deep pockets that they could have gone Independent. Cal wouldn't have had that option, so it's absolutely beneficial for Cal for them to have stuck together.
I think once the ACC loses Clemson, Florida State, Miami, and North Carolina, they'll look to expand further and will probably pick up other schools out west. I'd fully expect them to eventually pick up Oregon State and Washington State, then try to grab San Diego State, Boise, and UTSA.
I STILL can't believe the Pac-12 is dying. But it all started with that shitty deal to create a network and NOT EVEN BOTHER to tether it to ESPN or Fox or even CBS. And it's all due to football.
Brodie,not only are Oregon and Washington going to play each other in the Big 10,but Cal is not playing Rutgers in the ACC,since Rutgers is in the Big 10
my mistake! the price of speaking spontaneously.
We get the point, Brodie. Cal just might be playing Clemson next Thanksgiving Saturday. Yikes.@@brodiebrazil
The Civil War is the big rivalry, between Oregon State and the University of Oregon. Goes back longer than any game played between Washington and Oregon.
As an Oregon State Beaver, it is sad to watch the conference collapse. Especially when the football program was revived. 🙁
I do hope, however, that we can find a way to restore the pac2 as a power conference with some help.
Let's try to make the best out of this situation.
Cal and Stanford wtf yall 😂 ACC is so far. I’m still shocked the Pac 12 couldn’t figure this shit out between the big 12 and the mountain west. Even having teams in the big tennis ridiculous because that makes the conference coast to coast. Ugh can’t believe how awful the PAC-12 leadership was.
Realignment has ruined the college game for athletes, fans, & regional rivals! Sad!
So will there be a Pac-2 Championship Game next year? I predict that it will be between Washington State and Oregon State.
I'm making my bets lol
0:50 "This is something we could see coming, this never got maintaned, never got the proper attention and now we're here at the end of the line". Can almost be said verbatim for Oakland and the Coliseum.
… or could also be said for the US as an entirety.
Technically for the PAC-12 Football Conference ends on Dec. 1st after the championship game it will be offcially be gine after the Bowl season and playoff.
I feel for the players of the non-revenue sports... unless they get equal considerations as to travel and the like, they are screwed.
The sentiment is right on but you clearly aren’t up to date on which school is going to which conference and what the make up is of the conferences anymore. Rutgers is B1G now not ACC, and Oregon and Washington are still in-conference rivals as both are headed to the B1G.
This hurts a lot. All those years of history and my friends getting to see each other are now gone.
If UCLA doesn’t improve then this was all for nothing.
That’s right! How are we going to compete with the BIG 10 in everything with all that travel. I also have friends that graduated from fellow PAC 12 schools and I love the friendly rivalry. It’s all gone. We are not simply defined by our rivalry with USC.
@@rich_b_groovin1790 yeah I want to transfer to UCLA and I hoped to see my old friends again who are also in state but that’s been ran over and I don’t have many friends at USC.
The majority of student athletes are screwed with this since so few go pro or get NIL $ and must rely on getting an education. The added travel will stress the kids academically and competitively.
The Oregon softball team was already complaining about this. While major programs in the schools get a huge slice of the pie everyone else has to suffer w/ that stress that you mentioned. Its really a shame greed and along with incompetent leadership ruined a once great conference.
can be summed up as the result of hubris and incompetence and greed..... sad
The WAC lost half its membership 25 years ago because it spanned across several time zones. So, 25 years later, multiple conferences will stretch from coast to coast, across several time zones. The WAC eventually lost all its members to the MWC and dropped its sponsorship of football. It scrambled to get new member schools which were essentially leftovers. At this point, the Pac-2 is basically the new WAC. It will be interesting to see how long these new conference alignments last.
Maybe cal and Stanford fly to the east coast and stay there for two or thre weeks when schedule has several consecutive games before coming home.
I think it's time to make football only conferences. Much easier for them since it's 1 game a week. All the other sports will be tough. I want to see how sports like baseball and softball will work.
college football is basically the NFL D-league now. the committee runs it all and the ncaa needs to get the hell out of the way. been that way for years. same with college hoop...basically the NBA D-league since about half of the players will either end up in the NBA, G-league, NBA D-league, eutope, or asia. baseball...everyone will go pro since all players have already been drafted by a team, but passed in order to go to school. so the fraud of "for the fun of it" is just that... FRAUD.
also, football is king. it pays the bills for everyone else. outside of hoop and the tourneys that go with it, no one cares about any of the other sports, let alone know that they even exist. seriously...who is gonna stay up to watch the track team, floor hockey, or girls bodybuilding (aka gymnastics)? answer...damm near no one. the way a sport becomes legit now days is if the casinos can put action on it and get a good market.
Rutgers is not in the ACC
Whats also worrying is the pac 12 network. alot of media workers in trouble. Why they did that instead of doling things out to local antenna affilates is odd. they woulda made more money that way.
Teams within the same conference still plays other 'regional' teams -- for example, USC and UCLA can still play each other as a B1G conference game/match.
Supposedly Cal surveyed their athletes in all sports and allegedly most said they preferred to remain in the strongest competition possible even if it meant travel across the country. But don't know.
great show and a good recap of what happen to the PAC
Excellent commentary
In your series on becoming a sportscaster can you talk about doing material on a sports you dont really have a interest.
Next Friday will be the last ever game in the pac 12.
DANG WE GON HAVE A WASHINGTON VS MICHIGAN MATCHUP!!!
Mountain West should merge with the Pac-12. Definitely makes sense.
I think that will ultimately happen in 2026 or something like that. There are legal issues involved with the Pac-12 branding.
The Apple Cup got extended for at least 3 years
What's sad is that the fans wanted the pac 12 to stay together but the school presidents wanted to go their separate way! I used to have a lot of pride being a pac12 fan, now screw the pac12!
I'll be watching less college football next season. Something about Cal/UCLA, who played the last Pac-12 football game last night, playing on Thanksgiving weekend schools 3000 miles away (Rutgers/Wake Forest, for instance) turns me off. In fact, I would even suggest a boycott next year.
So, now college sports is just a business. Maybe you'll root for your alma mater, but fly across country to watch? Not many of us can. Parents/Family see most of their kids games in person? Nah. So, it's not about the school spirit, that's kinda dead. Why do we want to make our colleges bear the cost of being the farm teams for the NFL? If this is all about the business, then let's make it real. Why require athletes to be students? All this does is give professional football trained athletes to choose from.
We're Duck fans first, then Beavs, then Dawgs and Cougs. Used to the tradition of rooting for Oklahoma. We'll stay with the Beavs and the Cougs, just can't get excited about super leagues artificially created so we can have an expensive college super bowl. I like vanilla, but I don't want everything I eat to taste like it.
Its always been a business, The only reason they required athletes to be students is so they didn't have employment rights. There are over 1,00,000 sporting competitions in the US who are described as "amateur" yet only the NCAA needs billions of dollars in revenue to operate competitions for "amateurs".
Likewise "school spirit" is nothing more then marketing and keeping morons supporting schools exploiting the kids that make them that money.
@@louiscypher4186 you're correct about how it is, but not how it was before the major media hijacked it. Didn't happen by accident, didn't happen overnight. If athletes receive an education, that could be compensation, and it depends on the student what use they put it to. But yeah, there once was a less cynical greedy aproach.
@@KatelynLord it's a bit rich to say it's compensation when you lose your scholarship if you get injured or cut. Once you do that, it's not compensation, it's just a condition of employment.
If it was compensation the whole degree would be funded unconditionally.
As a CAL alum (2011-2015) one of the factors going to CAL was the fact that I had access to Power 5 football. Sure, we were dog water under the fading embers of Tedford and Sonny Dykes, etc. but I loved knowing I was part of a tradition in some way that was way bigger than me. It’s a sad day to see this conference fail and I will miss playing UCLA, watching the Apple Cup and the Civil War. I hope that in my lifetime we will see the rise of another powerhouse league on the west coast because we deserve better. The fans and the student athletes miss out the most. RIP Pac 12 (1915-2023).
Nothing lasts forever just like a franchise staying in a certain area because of tradition, its economic
My pipe dream is that the conference comes back and swallows up mountain west teams like SJSU.
To be completely honest, no one East of Mountain Time really cares about West Coast football outside of USC and Oregon. Cal and Stanford were two schools that no one wanted, not even the Big 12 wanted them. Cal, Stanford, and SMU all had political figures begging the ACC to accept them and the ACC was happy to oblige because they're about to lose several members and needed to keep the conference at the same level of schools or they'd be forced to renegotiate their ESPN deal.
The deal for Cal and Stanford to be members of the ACC isn't ideal for anyone, but it keeps both schools in the Power 5 for the time being and doesn't relegate them to G5 status.
The people in charge of UCLA and usc are the main ones to blame. They took the deals and were the first to leave. Good thing cal sued ucla and got 30 million out of them, absolutely disgraceful and a huge blow to all these schools.
Didn't Oregon State (which almost beat Washington this year) recently renovate its football stadium on the prospect that they would be playing USC, Oregon etc. to find this stadium will now host teams like, who knows, Idaho State? whose stadiums tend to just be glorified bleachers.
Rutgers is a big ten team btw
Yeah that was my bad
It’s all about money and TV ratings. It has destroyed college sports. Wsu and Osu have been left behind. No clear path. Both teams are already loosing players to the transfer portal. I don’t blame them, they need to find their footing to.
I'm a USC Alumnus. Seeing the Pac12 to end its history of traditions for 108 years. Sad to see this. All due to poor executive management.
Hey Brodie, the State University of New Jersey better known as Rutgers, is not in the ACC. They are in the Big Ten. Guess you don’t follow East Coast College sports. Still not happy with the A’s moving though
Can’t wait for that legendary matchup Cal at Rutgers
I watched Cal at the Rose Bowl vs. UCLA last night. Will not be watching Cal playing teams a continent away, who they have no relationship to, next year.
@@telephilia exactly snd the time zones, too. One thing if it is the professional NFL, but these student-athletes do not need to be traveling cross country
They need to have the NCAA do the conferences. This is dumb.
Cal and Stanford were left behind because they didn't understand the business of college sports in that football and basketball pay the bills for your athletic department not the olympic sports.
Between paying off terrible and scumbag coaches, then NIL, and now the disintegration of traditional conference rivalries, college sports has gone down the tube for me... Buhbye tradition. Not sure I'll be watching much college sports anymore. Zk
The TV money talks these days...
For baseball this is a disaster. Take UCLA for example. Almost every other week is going to look like this for most students: Monday-Thursday classes, Thursday late afternoon flight of 3.5 hours average, Friday night game, Saturday night game, Sunday afternoon game followed by a 3.5 average flight home and then have classes the next day. Something has to give right? Maybe they do Saturday doubleheaders instead of playing Sunday.
you missed a few things, rutgers is a big 10 school not acc. and oregon and washington both going to big 10 so that rivalry will stay.
What rivalry do Oregon and Washington have?
@@vincesmith2499uh.....🙄 We hate each other! It's a huge rivalry.
@@curtismartin2866 All schools hate each other, but Washington and Washington State are archrivals, not Washington and Oregon.
@@vincesmith2499 you either moved away 20 years ago, or you're ignorant. Oregon has been Washington's chief rival since Kenny Wheaton.
When the PAC 12 expanded, I was excited. Colorado and Utah seem to be a good fit academically, philosophically, financially and athletically. That led to finally hosting conference tournaments which should have generated more revenue. If traditional be damned, then we might as well dismantle the whole system, get rid of individual autonomous conferences and form one super league, broken down by region. The NCAA will also need to be dismantled since it’s so antiquated anyway. The short sighted money grab will eventually lead to the implosion of collegiate athletics if decision makers don’t get together and figure this out. This is niether sustainable nor entertaining. As a UCLA alum, we are not simply defined by our rivalry with USC. We have a decades long relationship with the other schools. I would always cheer for a fellow PAC 12 school if they are playing against another conference. I enjoyed seeing multiple PAC 12 schools in the top 25 simultaneously for their respective sports. Even if UCLA wasn’t doing well. As you mentioned, I hope the increased travel will not adversely affect the mind, body and spirit of many collegiate athletes. You’re right, the kids did not sign up for this.
It is absurd. The solution is to be rid of the NCAA and legislation to pry education away from business. If the NFL wants a minor league, let them pay for it.
Oh so you went from breaking the hearts of A's fans to us that was hoping to keep the PAC-12 together 😢
As for the geographic rivalries, those will continue between Washington and Washington State, of course Washington and Oregon, but all the Cal schools I'm not sure. Also not sure about Oregon and Oregon State.
Washington vs. Washington State and Oregon vs. Oregon State for football but not for other sports. Those are the only archival schools getting split by realignment.
Wash vs. OSU and Ore. vs. WSU may not have been ARCH rivals, but certainly spirited rivals. Same with Cal and Stanford v. USC and UCLA. @@vincesmith2499
Tv money rule the day mr b
😂 cry some more its just funny that the PAC-12 championship is happening on 11/23 in a no name arena. UCLA, USC, Washington, and Oregon made the right decision by coming to the Big 10.
Bait and switch for the general student body members, too… so lame. Leaving the gates at Stanford tonight I just had to say, “I’m about to leave the Pac-12!”… tried to make a fun moment but it was just like a portal away from all college football, at least rooting for any program disloyal to their conference colleagues. Maybe I watch a San Jose State game in person each year in honor of B-Brazil!!
Great points made here. Screw the money hunting exploiters!
I didn’t even think about basketball NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Welcome to WVUs hell since 2012. Maybe we should’ve never allowed conferences to poach teams all the way back in 2003 with the Big East and had a CFB commissioner with equal revenue for the power conferences now nobody wins.
Very sad. The collapse started when the Rose Bowl stopped featuring the top teams from the Pac-X and Big-10. I'd watched the Rose Bowl every year up until that point, but never watched it again. I stopped watching college football altogether, about 5 years ago, but ended up watching Husky games again this season just because it's the final season of the Pac-X. Great season for Husky fans. But - after this year, I'll never again watch a college football game. It's a fully professional sport without much of any tie to the universities - and I don't watch or care about professional sports. No longer interesting to me, and I would prefer that universities concentrate on education rather than hosting professional-sports teams.
BS! Utah is not as upset as Washington State Oregon State Cal or Stanford but I think that out of the 12 schools Utah is the fifth most upset followed by ASU. Long story short you had 6 schools trying to hold it together and 6 schools ready to bail. That is what happened. It should not be reported any other way.
Rutgers is in the B1G
The pac 12 top guy ego got out hand
That guy was a CEO of a casino in Vegas before he became the head of the PAC 12 which was stupid he blew up the PAC 12 if it wasn't for him teams would of stayed
4 hr plane rides only if you play football or basketball. The rest ride buses to their games.
5:21 No, the student signed up to play for the school….no matter what conference that school went to. Not like conference changes never happened and PAC-12 never accepted new schools before. If the student doesn’t want to do that they are free to get the hell out. Just a lot of whining and whinging over rose tinted nostalgia. Realignments have happened before and they will happen again.
So now its the Pac Zero
This will prepare them for the NFL
The two that should have been left out are Cal and Stanford. They absolutely SUCK!
Did you even realize that SMU is forgoing 9 years of media payouts to get into the ACC. Bunch of rich oil alumni are covering the lost revenue. Crazy.
Just a picky point, but Rutgers is in the Big 10, so Cal and Stanford wouldn’t be playing them. They will be playing Syracuse, Boston College, and Pitt in the Northeast.
As a Utah (and Syracuse) grad, I was so hyped to be in the Pac 12. The conference had an academic linking between most of the schools along with being in the West. I loved watching Pac 12 games. Now that’s gone. I couldn’t care less about the Big 12. It’s a flyover conference with no big names. I have no interest in any teams we will be playing except for BYU-Provo, and even I couldn’t care less about that FCS school. This is all sad.
The California schools are all pissed off because none of them are in the top 5. Now, they want to play in an easier league. LOL
Money is the root, forget the decades of the lives of the west coast fans. Fans who made friends from Oregon to Washington, ucla to Arizona the business at the shops and restaurants at Stanford to Utah. Good times over the years. And the conference with the most NCAA championships. This move is a total disaster. I don't care to watch east coast teams , why? East coast bias. Don't want to see 3 yards and a cloud of dust football.
Will see calfurd return back west coast both school terrible football & basketball both school can’t sell stadium
ACC will be the next to die. Best acc schoolls to the sec. Next tier to big10. Then a few big 12 schools will go to sec and big10. The big 12 will invite the left out acc schools and the beavs and cougs and a bunch of the best g5 schools to try to keep a power 3 status. MWC and AAC will merged. cusa and sun belt will merge. Some Missouri valley and big sky schools will join the MAC. But it won’t be the p3 and g3. It will be the top 2, the next 1, the almost 3rd, and the Mac as a 4th tier conf within the FBS. I give it 2-5 years to happen.
Brodie I love you, but it's obvious CFB isn't your strong suit. Lot's of errors throughout. Oregon and Washington will both be in the Big 10 together. Rutgers is in the Big 10 (not the ACC). And Colorado was the FIRST Pac-12 team to jump to the Big 12 (not one of the last in). SMU is just joining the ACC and therefore couldn't be considered the western -most ACC school. It is interesting that the Pac 12, at one time, tried to poach Texas, A&M, Oklahoma, and OKST from the Big 12 and everyone thought it was a crazy idea
The day the Pac-12 fell was the college sports equivalent of the fall of the Berlin Wall, the Eastern Bloc, and the USSR. And as a fan of both Kansas and Iowa, I relish in the Pac-12's demise. The Pac-12 was run by people who thought they were smarter than everyone else, looked down their nose at the rest of everyone else, and denigrated other schools and conferences. And now they have been relegated, along with the Soviet Empire, to the dust bin of history.
As god willing the ussa empire will be
You have an alternate reality you live in. 😂
@brycelandon
Fine, despice the people that ran the Pac12, but don't hold your ignorant comments against the teams and the players.
Chances are, in the
future your favorite team and conference will be in the same situation.
Colleges that are filthy rich will become farm teams for the pro's and 100's of other colleges will be left out also.
If your team doesn't make money for the networks they'll be on the cutting room floor also.
W/C = 👎
The pac will be back
PAC 12 = 👎
The PAC has sucked since the 90s
Except this year right
I will say on the football side good fucking riddance. We talk about how in amercia no matter how big you are if your a bad business you should fail. The pac 12 was a horrible business. College football will be much better off no doubt. Plus if you thinj these teams wont keep playing each other your crazy.
Ugh, by the looks of your writing skills, you must've attended a Pac-12 school.
😢😢
7:58 Besides USC and UCLA, it always has been Colorado that expressed the most desire to get out of the PAC-12. The remaining "four corner" schools (Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah) really wanted the PAC to stay together, but it was ultimately both the ~$25M Apple TV+ proposal and Washington and Oregon leaving for the Big 10 that made those 3 schools run towards the Big 12.
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