Timecodes: 00:00 - Intro 01:19 - Nostalgia Critic’s “The Wall” 10:39 - Ad Astra 14:07 - Ad Astra (SPOILERS) 27:48 - Salo (SPOILERS) 1:03:40 - Q&A Ralph's Recommendation for Next Episode is The King of Comedy.
@@Alma24177 I'm excited. I like hearing other people's opinions. I've already made my own for this film so I'm interested in what they all have to say about it
Sincere question, why do you think everyone hates Nostalgia Critic's The Wall so so much? I watched it, and yes it is somewhat stupid and juvenile, but no more than many many other Nostalgia Critic videos. Is it because people love the movie The Wall? I thought the consensus re that movie is that it's an interesting and creative, but also self indulgent and flawed. The people who really love it seem to be in the minority. Plus, Nostalgia Critic never came off to me like he hated The Wall, just that he was bored by it and found it pretentious. Which, frankly, I can understand. Is it because the internet's just sick of the nostalgia critic? Is this just belated backlash to the channel awesome scandals? Honestly, if anyone has answers, let me know. I saw Folding Ideas and Anthony Fantano's reviews, and there just seems to be so much anger toward this video. I get that the video's stupid, I just can't imagine getting angry about it. At this point the internet's put 10000% more energy into being mad about NC's The Wall than NC put into making The Wall. (If anyone's interested, here's my take on Pink Floyd's The Wall from when I saw it a few years ago: there's a couple very affecting scenes with disturbing imagery, primarily the "Goodbye Blue Sky" scene, and some genuinely powerful anti-war commentary. However there's also a lot of parts of the film that feel dark nihilistic for the sake of being dark and nihilistic, and much of the political commentary didn't really cohere for me (rock audiences are fascist for some reason?). It's a good look into the head of a very depressed person, but since the whole movie is set inside the main character's head, the movie ends up immersing the audience in really dark themes/imagery without ever providing enough context for the audience to truly understand that darkness.)
@@lucyw4195 my experience with the review was that I heard the Nostalgia Critic singing and immediately turned it off, maybe it's the level of cringe and people were finally fed up, like the straw that broke the camels back
---QUESTION TIMESTAMPS--- 1:03:54 - If you were to make a religious movie, what would you do to make it actually good? 1:07:47 - What sound effects are you sick of hearing in movies/games that drive you insane? 1:13:22 - What is the worst scene in any movie? 1:17:46 - What is for you the best movie of 1999? 1:23:42 - Are there any films that do you genuinely think are social irresponsible and if so why? 1:32:04 - Has there ever been an actor or actress or scene in a movie where you had to pause the movie, whip your dick out and jerk off? 1:34:30 - Actors/Actresses you can't stand? 1:41:43 - What are you takes on the Aardman movies?
@@gnalkhere they should make a sequel called Ad Astra, Salò, or the 120 Days of Sodom, in which a group of alien fascists bring 12 young boys and girls onto a spaceship for 120 days as they are subjected to the most grotesque alien fetishes imaginable.
“The guy who died in To Boldly Flee, what was he from?” Ralph: “Fantastic Planet.” “IF HE WAS IN IT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A VERY DIFFERENT MOVIE GIVE HIM TEN POINTS.”
Vincent Gallo is highly unpleasant as an individual but I love how his unpleasantness permeates the essence of that film. Like every character except the blonde girl is just awful haha
Salò is one of my favorite films of all time. It’s meant to leave you emotionally and physically numb. It’s a statement on the commercialization, exploitation, and hatred of the human body, sexuality, and human freedom. It’s brilliant how Pasolini manipulates the expectations of the subjects. The shots on human nakedness or sexual activities are static or shot from a distance, with long takes, completely de-humanizing the act or mere idea of showing sex-in essence, making sex unsexy. That’s just one of many aspects in the film that deserves interpretation. It’s a masterpiece!
Why do we censor how we talk about rich people? They are the most insulated from our comments compared to anyone. They should be thoroughly ridiculed for their excess and continual destructive influence on anything that's for the rest of us, that they touch. I guess it's up to "Salo" to bring the anger home. Wouldn't want to offend the dandies I suppose .
Marquis de Sade, the nobleman author of 120 days of Sodom, was a known rapist and pedophile who escaped punishment multiple times via intervention from his family or by escaping prison. Just keep that in mind when you praise this movie for "ridiculing the rich", because the original text was a celebration of these acts, not a damnation. Edit: forgot to clarify that he was a nobleman.
@@bondfall0072 bruh I've yet to understand why smut written by a sadistic serial sex offender transforms into a masterpiece because "the bad guys did it, now it's a commentary". It's basically "establish the villain" scene that would take up a small portion of a movie that actually has a point, but it's the entire movie. I guess people talk like Sade himself was a cool guy anyway. Okay...
@@aliveslice like, I'm more okay with the movie because it has the added element of Italian facism. It distances itself from the original text and makes it more relevant. But I'm not going to lie, it disturbs me that people perceive Sade as a brilliant satirist when he was actually a pretentious pervert at best and a malicious sadist at worst.
@@bondfall0072 You can adapt a story and spin it for the purpose of ridiculing the original author and the story's themes. I think it's obvious that the film was doing that.
As much as I love the guys, they tend to know very few things outside of films themselves. They rarely know some things that seem to be common knowledge, I mean Pasolini is one of the most important film makers ever.
I stopped watching the Nostalgia Critic a while ago, but I saw his review on The Wall and it's as bad as everyone else says it is. At one point, he called one of the songs Oscar-bait. I've never seen The Wall in its entirety, but even I know the album was created first a few years before the movie.
After 44 episodes, I think Ralph is the most likely to be a serial killer of the three. Alex is obviously not and Adam would be too obvious. Ralph has that element of being able to blend into society while being able to hide dark secrets. He'll never be caught.
Before seeing the movie, I read a review that described the movie as a cross between 2001: a space odyssey and Apocalypse now and I can definitely see elements of both movies in Ad astra. Especially the narration which reminded me of Martin sheen’s voiceover for Apocalypse now.
This would be a fantastic suggestion BUT I do love when the boys talk about a film that none of them have seen prior. Maybe a lesser seen Tarkovsky film like The Sacrifice or Nostalghia would be better imo.
I think there has been a mistake for the release of this on Spotify: you guys re released the Midsommer episode. I don't know If this is one of many comments addressing this but I'd like to be able to take this episode on the go. Good content though!
Took me like 15 minutes to realize it because i missed the Midsommer episode. Eventually I looked at the time stamps and thought "shouldn't they be making fun of the Nostalgia Critic by now?"
I literally just walked out of the theater, and I loved it. I typically actually like Narration, and it never occurred to me to be bothered that ai was being spoon-fed. Some of it was definitely necessary, but some of it wasn't, for sure, not everything had to be spelled out.
"I have to check the name of the director, it's some Italian guy". SOME ITALIAN GUY? You're talking about Pier Paolo Pasolini, one of the greatest directors of all time!
Store Things just because they didn’t remember the name of a director foreign to them doesn’t remove anything from the review of the movie itself lmao. The movie imo is pretty repetitive and sometimes, as Adum stated, it does feel like some scene did feel pornographic and didn’t particularly need to be added to an already quite dilated movie. OFC this is all subjective and doesn’t mean to take anything out of your own experience of the movie, I just felt it was unjust to criticise them on something as trivial as the director’s name. Italian names can be hard af UwU
Just a heads up my dudes, on Spotify you guys uploaded episode 41 again but it’s labeled as 44. Not the end of the world I can always listen to it here, just figured I’d let you guys know on the off chance you read this comment section
that's a double edged sword situation on one hand some marvel movies are just generic and boring but some are really good with lots of work and artistry and passion going on . but film snobs who like the smell of their own farts will agree with Scorsese well others will call him dumb and old but I'm just in the middle
@@trollface865 Out of the three, Ralph at least tends to appreciate the better titles like Avengers or Winter Soldier more. He definitely has a soft spot for the MCU since it tends to be a better built cinematic universe. But of course he doesn't excuse the mediocre to bad ones.
Love Marvel films,and i guess Scorsese is right in a certain point: They don't have that much problem to be distributed. They are automatic box office hits and don't have that much ambition with cinematography,editing and other elements that are a pain on the ass for filmmakers. I mean,i heard The irishman took like 10 years to plan. How much do Marvel films? 6 months?
Well Scorsese's more or less right. If you're 18 or up it's okay to enjoy an infantile movie every now and then, if for every one of those type of movies you watch at least a couple of movies for grown ups.
--QUESTION TIMESTAMPS-- 1:03:54 - If you were to make a religious movie, what would you do to make it actually good? 1:07:47 - What sound effects are you sick of hearing in movies/games that drive you insane? 1:13:22 - What is the worst scene in any movie? 1:17:46 - What is for you the best movie of 1999? 1:23:42 - Are there any films that do you genuinely think are social irresponsible and if so why? 1:32:04 - Has there ever been an actor or actress or scene in a movie where you had to pause the movie, whip your dick out and jerk off? 1:34:30 - Actors/Actresses you can't stand? 1:41:43 - What are you takes on the Aardman movies?
There's been more than a few times when I've brought a girl home and she casually browses through my movie collection, picking out my blu-ray copy of Salo, reading the back, and saying "wow, this sounds scary we should watch it!". and I'm always like, 'uhhhh, maybe something a little less intense... how bout Blue Velvet?" Perhaps I should hide it for the booty call's sake....
Piero Passolini is a fantastic filmmaker. His first film Accattone is wonderful. I think awkward acting and iffy special effects are a lot of the charm and add to the quality in interesting ways with Italian films. I think this is also true for a lot of films from this era regardless of region and it does feel like a shame to me that y’all aren’t as open to them. Not everything needs to be clinically made, “mistakes” can sometimes be positives in their own ways. The problems you guys have with the original Suspiria really highlights this for me.
I think it's a little myopic to suggest that Salo is "one note" in its criticism of fascism. The core of the movie isn't "fascism bad" but rather a slow, painful, but meditative deconstruction of the facets of fascism's modus operandi. There are many things that the film comments on, but one that's overlooked but seemingly inexorable from the movie's intent is its deconstruction and satire of fascism's gaudy spectacle and theatricality. The whole exercise of the fascists in charge is essentially a theatrical production, a play that only they are in on and filled to the brim with spectacle and amusement. Think of the wedding with the ornate costumes, the "rules" of the house, the various "roles" that are played by both the captors and the victims. It's not unlike the theatrical ventures of the fascistic spectacle of rallies and speeches. Yet what Salo does is to combine the degradation and torture of human will and spirit which fascism inevitably ends in with this gaudy, flamboyant spectacle. It is a meeting in the middle of the concentration camp and the youth summer camps, the Wehrmacht with the paraders, the bullet with the torch, etc. To Salo, these aspects of fascism, since they serve the same purpose ideology, are one in the same, thus a synthesis is a natural outcome at the end of fascism (keep in mind, the film is set at the tail end of the fascist regime in Italy, set in the Salo republic, the last bastion of fascist Italy after the invasion and side-flipping on the allied southern provinces). Additionally, the sexual violence is also combined with the subtextual sexuality of the fascistic ethos with its rigid gender roles, its placement of high value on fertility and procreation, the sexual adoration of the dear leader and the high ranking officials of the fascistic machine. To Salo, death and sex are two sides of the same ideological coin and serve the same bitter end: to justify and perpetuate a poisonous ideology which places weak above strong, pure above impure, and "us" above "them". This is of course just one aspect of the movie. The film explores many aspects of the fascistic ethos very in depth. Yet the film never hammers you over the head with these critiques. There's a subtly to it. The shit eating scenes, for example, have been seen by many critics as representative of the mass production of factory food under high-modernism, with fascism being the ideology which takes high-modernism to its logical, most extreme and absurd end. Thus under the absurdity of high modernism and its rigid factorial systems of production and growth for production and growth's sake, the difference between nourishment and shit becomes negligible. Consumption and regurgitation become again two sides of the same ideological coin. It's a much smarter film than a lot of people let on, and its reputation as shocking and exploitative have ruined it to a certain extent, at least in the eyes of its reputation with the general filmic public. But regardless of the historical and current cultural context surrounding the film, the film as *pure text* is rich in detail, subversion and meaning and lends itself well to many fascinating readings. JK IT'S ACTUALLY JUST JUST POOPY DOODY FUNNY SHITTIES. HAHAHA YOU THOUGHT THERE WAS A DEEPER MEANING IN THE POO-POO FEAST?!
@Store Things Yeah, you gotta point. That's just how I write when I'm doing analysis though. My degrees in history and literary criticism has made me forever sound like a snooty boi :((
To be fair they all three seem utterly clueless. And Adam should be the one to bring in knowledge since its esteblished he is the most special interest guy here... isnt it?
Very disappointed you seem to have done no research, i mean none on Pasolini or the meaning of the film? The movie is not just “one note” saying “Fascism is bad” it is a criticism of consumerism and comes from Pasolini being disappointed that his movies were falling into commercialism. I mean Pasolini was a communist intellectual after all. He even said of Salo “My film shows the sinister connection between consumerism and Nazism.” Edit: Thank you Ralph
It's kind of sad seeing people like Ralph, who has proven many times he loves cinema, not have familiarity with this director. He is not ''some italian guy'', but Pier Paolo Pasolini, a heavyweight of cinema and bloody legend if you will. It just shows how problematic the exposure to almost exclusively english language cinema is in america.
Alex, the reason why some background characters weren't as good as acting it's because they weren't actors, the director picked up people off the street and told them to be in his movie. Fun fact: He got murdered shortly after the movie, they ran him over with a car several times and crushed his genitals. Til this day, the case is unsolved
I noticed the creaking gate sound is even in Bennie and Joon. You hear a portion of it at the start when Benny opens their mailbox. I bought & rewatched the film a few years ago for my personal collection. 🥰💖 Benny and Joon has stood the test of time for me. Lots of wonderful actors are in it.
I would definitely recommend looking more into the source material for salò. The literature was written by marquis de sade in 1785 while held in prison. From the information available it could easily be said this was less a criticism and more a sexual fantasy for the guy. Puts a big spin on what you can get out of the subject matter. Very interesting rabbit hole to dive down and it'd be interesting to hear your thoughts with that in mind.
I loved the schlocky dumb scenes in Ad Astra! I thought the juxtaposition of those scenes with the overall serious, emotional underlying theme of the movie was great. If it was all super serious or all schlocky action, I dont think I would have liked it as much.
The narration was also my biggest problem with Ad Astra. There’s literally a scene where he’s in a rocket on his way to Neptune and his narration says “I’m on my way to Neptune” ...LIKE, DUDE, WE KNOW Other than that I really liked it. The set-pieces were pretty fantastic, and I really liked the subtle world-building. I almost want to edit the narration out of the movie just to see how things would play out without it.
I know this is asking a lot from you guys, but I would LOVE to hear you guys talk about Jacques Tati’s “PlayTime” HAVING SEEN at least 1 or 2 of Tati’s films previously. I say that because I think you get a lot more out of playtime after you’ve seen at least Mon Oncle, and I’d really love to hear them talk about it
Epic show guys. Thank You. Also the about the “socially irresponsible media” question. We had something happen like that in 1993 here in the UK when two ten year old boys abducted and murdered a two year old boy. They blamed the film Chucky that made the ten year olds to do it.
I'm so glad you guys are talking about The King of Comedy next. It's definitely one of the best Martin Scorsese and movie in general. Also one of the funniest movie I've seen.
I had to read the entire 120 day of sodom book for a class a few years back. glad i read it, but lost all sex drive for a few weeks cause i couldn't get it out of my head.
Have you guys followed #ChangetheChannel at all? That will make you hate Doug Walker, or at least seriously question his morality, priorities, and perspective.
As someone who’s read the book, I don’t think Alex would get any more out of it. The book is incredibly repetitive and most of it is just about eating shit and farting in each other’s faces. Literally. The really ‘disturbing’ ending was actually never finished and is just in note form. Gotta say though, I’m surprised Adam didn’t know about the book. As gross as it is, it is/was a very important book, and we actually get the term ‘sadism’ from its author - the Marquis de Sade. Edit: Funnily enough, I didn’t know there was a film of The Painted Bird! I’ve read the book and it’s very well written and disturbing (more than Salo imo).
My #1 most hated sound effect is that goddamn wolf snarl. Every single time a wolf is on screen in a tv show, movie, or game, they play the barking growl. Even if it makes no sense. I just heard it in Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal and was immediately taken out. It's just overused enough to be redundant and not enough to be ironic. The bear growl is used a lot too but obviously not as much
Love you guys, but you really should research more of the background for movies like Saló. Understanding the fascist symbols in the movie, the background of the director, his death following the movie and Marquis de Sade's book are crucial points to touch and would make this review better and a lot deeper.
Saló has been one of my favourite films since I’ve watched it. It’s a bit scary tho when Sardonicast recommends something and I’ve actually watched it for once, and it just happens to be the film about the literal Nazi rape mansion!!
I heard about Salo through Jonathan Davis of Korn when he did a “what’s in my bag” video and this was one of the movies he picked and I became curious and Wikipedia the movie.
The sound effect that bothers me the most is the generic children laughing one, because it always reminds me of the Diddy Kong Racing intro, and some movies use it in serious emotional reunion scenes
The book is NOT better by the way. If anything it's purely pornographic. Not worth reading, the film kind of subverts the book in a strange way by using it to criticise the exact kind of people it's author was.
Adam comments about how its like fanfiction. The literature its based off of was just that. However going into te history of who wrote it questions whether some came from personal experience due to some parts being explicit and grapically detailed. Just an abominable piece of literature altogether
You guys need to talk about "The Joker" I really would like to hear your guy's view on the 2019 take of DC's good movie. And it has been a very long time DC put out a really good movie this year.
Yeah, you'd think these assholes could take an hour to do some research before making their podcasts. They didn't even know it was based on a book by the Marquis de Sade!
Indeed! Not only that, but you can transcript what they are saying, so that it can be used for parodies, jokes, or other entertainment-related content!
Guys do Moon (2009). It's an EXCELLENT film on the psychological effects of being in space for a long time. And Rockwell's acting is AMAZING! Critically underrated film. Unfortunately Duncan Jones took his career down the shitter after that...
Timecodes:
00:00 - Intro
01:19 - Nostalgia Critic’s “The Wall”
10:39 - Ad Astra
14:07 - Ad Astra (SPOILERS)
27:48 - Salo (SPOILERS)
1:03:40 - Q&A
Ralph's Recommendation for Next Episode is The King of Comedy.
Something tells me Joker is going to be talked about too
@@Lovicide in the end of the Q&A section, take in to acount that this was recorded before the movie was released.
@@Alma24177 I'm excited. I like hearing other people's opinions. I've already made my own for this film so I'm interested in what they all have to say about it
@@afterschoolimages3714 1:26:47 vage joker non spoiler commentary
1:32:03 THE JERK OFF QUESTION
Adam-thuh moovie
Ralph-duh mofie
Alex-the meuvie
Kerouac LeBain this comment is underrated i’m cracking up
This will never not make me laugh
I'm laughing at this in Alex's laugh
Alex-durr plant
A Canadian, an American and a Brit walk into a bar...
Adam trying to mitigate the awkwardness of his intros by immediately talking before its even over
Tostitos199 It’s a good tactic
@@mikelawrence1556 “meh”
*Insert bait-and-switch joke about Nostalgia Critic's The Wall being a more unpleasant experience than Salo here*
You sure it's a joke?
Sardo, or the 120 Days of Jenkem
haha poopy
Haha stinky poopy
Fun Fact: The term sadist is derived from one Marquis de Sade, the author of the book Salò is based on. Look him up, crazy stuff!
Fun fact: The director of this movie was a very highly regarded intellectual and a very high IQ is required to enjoy this movie.
Yup and Bloody Pit of Horror (super hilarious cheese ball movie)
Shrek Fanboy his murder is so bizarre, for whatever reason they smashed his testicles. Abel Ferrara apparently knows who killed him
@@shrekfanboy5446 Fun fact: You have a Shrek avatar and your name is Shrek Fanboy
Juliette gang rise up!
In this episode, the boys talk about a horrible abomination that should never have been seen.
....they also talk about Salo and Ad Astra.
Got em
you mean Ralph's Jersey lips?
And the abomination is Saló
Sincere question, why do you think everyone hates Nostalgia Critic's The Wall so so much?
I watched it, and yes it is somewhat stupid and juvenile, but no more than many many other Nostalgia Critic videos.
Is it because people love the movie The Wall? I thought the consensus re that movie is that it's an interesting and creative, but also self indulgent and flawed. The people who really love it seem to be in the minority.
Plus, Nostalgia Critic never came off to me like he hated The Wall, just that he was bored by it and found it pretentious. Which, frankly, I can understand.
Is it because the internet's just sick of the nostalgia critic? Is this just belated backlash to the channel awesome scandals?
Honestly, if anyone has answers, let me know. I saw Folding Ideas and Anthony Fantano's reviews, and there just seems to be so much anger toward this video. I get that the video's stupid, I just can't imagine getting angry about it. At this point the internet's put 10000% more energy into being mad about NC's The Wall than NC put into making The Wall.
(If anyone's interested, here's my take on Pink Floyd's The Wall from when I saw it a few years ago: there's a couple very affecting scenes with disturbing imagery, primarily the "Goodbye Blue Sky" scene, and some genuinely powerful anti-war commentary. However there's also a lot of parts of the film that feel dark nihilistic for the sake of being dark and nihilistic, and much of the political commentary didn't really cohere for me (rock audiences are fascist for some reason?). It's a good look into the head of a very depressed person, but since the whole movie is set inside the main character's head, the movie ends up immersing the audience in really dark themes/imagery without ever providing enough context for the audience to truly understand that darkness.)
@@lucyw4195 my experience with the review was that I heard the Nostalgia Critic singing and immediately turned it off, maybe it's the level of cringe and people were finally fed up, like the straw that broke the camels back
Ralph: There are still some images in my head.
Adam: Nice
That made me giggle
---QUESTION TIMESTAMPS---
1:03:54 - If you were to make a religious movie, what would you do to make it actually good?
1:07:47 - What sound effects are you sick of hearing in movies/games that drive you insane?
1:13:22 - What is the worst scene in any movie?
1:17:46 - What is for you the best movie of 1999?
1:23:42 - Are there any films that do you genuinely think are social irresponsible and if so why?
1:32:04 - Has there ever been an actor or actress or scene in a movie where you had to pause the movie, whip your dick out and jerk off?
1:34:30 - Actors/Actresses you can't stand?
1:41:43 - What are you takes on the Aardman movies?
Sketch Screen Thx
God damn that one about jerking off 😂
Thank u.
@Owen B. please tell me it's the jerk off question
If they don't mention The Sixth Sense, I will- Holy crap as I typed this they mentioned it on the list lol
Ralph, my man, I thought you had started to slip, but luckily you remembered who you are.
Ralph's Sardonicast Cartoon looks like Donald Trump impersonating a RalphTheMovieMaker
"I make the best movies."
The most disturbing thing about Salo is that one dude looks like Palpatine.
Balls Tanuki you know he’s never really gone
Dew it
The title of this episode is pretty funny. It feels like someone remade Ad Astra to be more extreme
Like are they three different movies or three different titles for the same movie?
@@bryanchu5379 Salò, or the 120 Days of Sodom is a singular film
@@gnalkhere they should make a sequel called Ad Astra, Salò, or the 120 Days of Sodom, in which a group of alien fascists bring 12 young boys and girls onto a spaceship for 120 days as they are subjected to the most grotesque alien fetishes imaginable.
A semi-colon would have helped.
“The guy who died in To Boldly Flee, what was he from?”
Ralph: “Fantastic Planet.”
“IF HE WAS IN IT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A VERY DIFFERENT MOVIE GIVE HIM TEN POINTS.”
Oh thank god Ralph's audio is back to normal. You had me worried for a hot minute
*idk if any of the boys will see this, but...*
Potential fan recommendation: Buffalo ‘66 (1998) directed by Vincent Gallo. A hidden indie classic
Hugsbunny311 backed hard
Yeah great movie.
The part where "Moonchild" by King Crimson played made me fall in love with it.
Want to see that film now
Vincent Gallo is highly unpleasant as an individual but I love how his unpleasantness permeates the essence of that film. Like every character except the blonde girl is just awful haha
Let's talk about how Alex gave It Chapter Two a 7/10 and Adum gave it like a 2/10
Judging By that Alex gave joker a 11/10
Adum gave it a 3
@@jimmybambles to be fair, that doesn't really change what I said
Sorry but both Alex and Ralph are pretty basic bitches when it comes to film
Idiosyn or that Adum has really high expectations for movies
Salò is one of my favorite films of all time. It’s meant to leave you emotionally and physically numb. It’s a statement on the commercialization, exploitation, and hatred of the human body, sexuality, and human freedom. It’s brilliant how Pasolini manipulates the expectations of the subjects. The shots on human nakedness or sexual activities are static or shot from a distance, with long takes, completely de-humanizing the act or mere idea of showing sex-in essence, making sex unsexy.
That’s just one of many aspects in the film that deserves interpretation. It’s a masterpiece!
I love how when Ralph said America swoops in to save the day there was awkward silence and nervous laughter.
When I get a new Sardonicast notification: *PPT UH OH STINKY*
Another successful podcast of Ralph being free from that air vent - well done guys
Why do we censor how we talk about rich people? They are the most insulated from our comments compared to anyone. They should be thoroughly ridiculed for their excess and continual destructive influence on anything that's for the rest of us, that they touch. I guess it's up to "Salo" to bring the anger home. Wouldn't want to offend the dandies I suppose .
Marquis de Sade, the nobleman author of 120 days of Sodom, was a known rapist and pedophile who escaped punishment multiple times via intervention from his family or by escaping prison. Just keep that in mind when you praise this movie for "ridiculing the rich", because the original text was a celebration of these acts, not a damnation.
Edit: forgot to clarify that he was a nobleman.
@@bondfall0072 bruh I've yet to understand why smut written by a sadistic serial sex offender transforms into a masterpiece because "the bad guys did it, now it's a commentary". It's basically "establish the villain" scene that would take up a small portion of a movie that actually has a point, but it's the entire movie.
I guess people talk like Sade himself was a cool guy anyway.
Okay...
@@aliveslice like, I'm more okay with the movie because it has the added element of Italian facism. It distances itself from the original text and makes it more relevant. But I'm not going to lie, it disturbs me that people perceive Sade as a brilliant satirist when he was actually a pretentious pervert at best and a malicious sadist at worst.
@@bondfall0072 You can adapt a story and spin it for the purpose of ridiculing the original author and the story's themes. I think it's obvious that the film was doing that.
I love you guys and the podcast, but
>Paolo Pasolini
>"some italian guy"
They do really shitty research. The story behind his death is so interesting
“It was based on a book??”
“Yeah, I think.”
Yea I mean, don't they know the Marquis De Sade? Like thr other one said, maybe they should've done research before releasing this one...
As much as I love the guys, they tend to know very few things outside of films themselves. They rarely know some things that seem to be common knowledge, I mean Pasolini is one of the most important film makers ever.
@@fbritannia and he was also one of the most non-fiction writer in
Italy.
I stopped watching the Nostalgia Critic a while ago, but I saw his review on The Wall and it's as bad as everyone else says it is. At one point, he called one of the songs Oscar-bait. I've never seen The Wall in its entirety, but even I know the album was created first a few years before the movie.
I stopped watching Sardonicast once Alex and Ralph referred to Paul Verhoeven as French and thought he directed The Fly, but this was pretty good
@@lukess.s Are you serious?
After 44 episodes, I think Ralph is the most likely to be a serial killer of the three. Alex is obviously not and Adam would be too obvious. Ralph has that element of being able to blend into society while being able to hide dark secrets. He'll never be caught.
Yes! I watched taxi driver for the first time yesterday and I was already planning on watching king of comedy after. Thank you Ralph
It was somehow dissapointing to me that Adum didnt know that ot was based on a actual book.
was under the impression that the book was waaay more famous than the movie
So nobody's going to talk about how one of the fascists in Salò looked exactly like Internet Comment Etiquette?
Dudeeee, I can’t unsee it now
why would you bring that to light
The stocky guy looks exactly like Sargon of Akkad and I was dying
I watched Ad Astra last Sunday and Apocalypse Now today, and I realized they were very similar movies.
Before seeing the movie, I read a review that described the movie as a cross between 2001: a space odyssey and Apocalypse now and I can definitely see elements of both movies in Ad astra. Especially the narration which reminded me of Martin sheen’s voiceover for Apocalypse now.
They were both based on Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad
Jake Ranney - add Kong: Skull Island to that and you have a nice triple bill.
Yup
Ad Astra is much more boringer though
They should watch Stalker, I really want to hear them discuss it
Also its an example of a good religious movie so it answers the first question
This would be a fantastic suggestion BUT I do love when the boys talk about a film that none of them have seen prior. Maybe a lesser seen Tarkovsky film like The Sacrifice or Nostalghia would be better imo.
gutter baby I love all of Tarkovksy’s films but I feel like those 2 would be hard to get into without seeing any other Tarkovsky
I love Stalker. The book it's loosely based on is great also.
They usually don't appreciate older foreign masterpieces, so I think that would be frustrating.
I think there has been a mistake for the release of this on Spotify: you guys re released the Midsommer episode. I don't know If this is one of many comments addressing this but I'd like to be able to take this episode on the go. Good content though!
Yeah, thanks for mentioning it! Confused the hell out of me.
Took me like 15 minutes to realize it because i missed the Midsommer episode. Eventually I looked at the time stamps and thought "shouldn't they be making fun of the Nostalgia Critic by now?"
RUclips Red NIGGGA
I literally just walked out of the theater, and I loved it. I typically actually like Narration, and it never occurred to me to be bothered that ai was being spoon-fed.
Some of it was definitely necessary, but some of it wasn't, for sure, not everything had to be spelled out.
I love this podcast, never stop
"I have to check the name of the director, it's some Italian guy". SOME ITALIAN GUY? You're talking about Pier Paolo Pasolini, one of the greatest directors of all time!
Store Things and even then Italian exploitation b movies are great and deserve respect. Lucio Fulci is one of my favorite directors.
ffsf739 thats heavily subjective tho...
Store Things just because they didn’t remember the name of a director foreign to them doesn’t remove anything from the review of the movie itself lmao. The movie imo is pretty repetitive and sometimes, as Adum stated, it does feel like some scene did feel pornographic and didn’t particularly need to be added to an already quite dilated movie. OFC this is all subjective and doesn’t mean to take anything out of your own experience of the movie, I just felt it was unjust to criticise them on something as trivial as the director’s name. Italian names can be hard af UwU
Store Things they probs knew it but forgot it, or was probs just a joke to go SOME ITALIAN GUY
Groucho78 not a joke they’re just ignorant
I literally just rewatched The King of Comedy.
I read the Wikipedia article on Salò and... yeah, I found it far more disturbing than the movie itself lol
The story behind director's death is interesting too
the dude yeah I read about that too, fascinating stuff
YES THEY DID MY INTRO SUGGESTION
Uh oh!
Captain Biscuit Stinky!
I suggested it first😤😤
So we have you to blame
Hahahaha
Just a heads up my dudes, on Spotify you guys uploaded episode 41 again but it’s labeled as 44.
Not the end of the world I can always listen to it here, just figured I’d let you guys know on the off chance you read this comment section
oh man I was literally a single minute behind you on commenting this
This is gonna be a rough one, oh god...
Hopefully they talk about Martin Scorsese’s comment on marvel movies next episode. I can see Adum agreeing but I’m not to sure about Ralph and Alex.
Robert Lockhead I can see Ralph agreeing, since he ids Scorsese fan and isn’t the greatest fan of the MCU
that's a double edged sword situation on one hand some marvel movies are just generic and boring but some are really good with lots of work and artistry and passion going on . but film snobs who like the smell of their own farts will agree with Scorsese well others will call him dumb and old but I'm just in the middle
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Out of the three, Ralph at least tends to appreciate the better titles like Avengers or Winter Soldier more. He definitely has a soft spot for the MCU since it tends to be a better built cinematic universe. But of course he doesn't excuse the mediocre to bad ones.
Love Marvel films,and i guess Scorsese is right in a certain point: They don't have that much problem to be distributed. They are automatic box office hits and don't have that much ambition with cinematography,editing and other elements that are a pain on the ass for filmmakers. I mean,i heard The irishman took like 10 years to plan. How much do Marvel films? 6 months?
Well Scorsese's more or less right. If you're 18 or up it's okay to enjoy an infantile movie every now and then, if for every one of those type of movies you watch at least a couple of movies for grown ups.
--QUESTION TIMESTAMPS--
1:03:54 - If you were to make a religious movie, what would you do to make it actually good?
1:07:47 - What sound effects are you sick of hearing in movies/games that drive you insane?
1:13:22 - What is the worst scene in any movie?
1:17:46 - What is for you the best movie of 1999?
1:23:42 - Are there any films that do you genuinely think are social irresponsible and if so why?
1:32:04 - Has there ever been an actor or actress or scene in a movie where you had to pause the movie, whip your dick out and jerk off?
1:34:30 - Actors/Actresses you can't stand?
1:41:43 - What are you takes on the Aardman movies?
There's been more than a few times when I've brought a girl home and she casually browses through my movie collection, picking out my blu-ray copy of Salo, reading the back, and saying "wow, this sounds scary we should watch it!". and I'm always like, 'uhhhh, maybe something a little less intense... how bout Blue Velvet?" Perhaps I should hide it for the booty call's sake....
Piero Passolini is a fantastic filmmaker. His first film Accattone is wonderful. I think awkward acting and iffy special effects are a lot of the charm and add to the quality in interesting ways with Italian films. I think this is also true for a lot of films from this era regardless of region and it does feel like a shame to me that y’all aren’t as open to them. Not everything needs to be clinically made, “mistakes” can sometimes be positives in their own ways. The problems you guys have with the original Suspiria really highlights this for me.
You misspelled Pasolini
@P Murphy eh, only one thing is fully duscusting, one can be used poorly and the last one is no big deal
Sálo is a fun film for the whole family to enjoy
"Has Brad Pitt ever played a villain?"
Kalifornia
Jesse james
Could you get Alex from JAR media on the podcast?
Yeah that Britbong is pretty cool.
Tony Stonks imagine the chaos if all the JAR boys invaded Sardonicast.
I think it's a little myopic to suggest that Salo is "one note" in its criticism of fascism. The core of the movie isn't "fascism bad" but rather a slow, painful, but meditative deconstruction of the facets of fascism's modus operandi. There are many things that the film comments on, but one that's overlooked but seemingly inexorable from the movie's intent is its deconstruction and satire of fascism's gaudy spectacle and theatricality. The whole exercise of the fascists in charge is essentially a theatrical production, a play that only they are in on and filled to the brim with spectacle and amusement. Think of the wedding with the ornate costumes, the "rules" of the house, the various "roles" that are played by both the captors and the victims. It's not unlike the theatrical ventures of the fascistic spectacle of rallies and speeches. Yet what Salo does is to combine the degradation and torture of human will and spirit which fascism inevitably ends in with this gaudy, flamboyant spectacle. It is a meeting in the middle of the concentration camp and the youth summer camps, the Wehrmacht with the paraders, the bullet with the torch, etc. To Salo, these aspects of fascism, since they serve the same purpose ideology, are one in the same, thus a synthesis is a natural outcome at the end of fascism (keep in mind, the film is set at the tail end of the fascist regime in Italy, set in the Salo republic, the last bastion of fascist Italy after the invasion and side-flipping on the allied southern provinces). Additionally, the sexual violence is also combined with the subtextual sexuality of the fascistic ethos with its rigid gender roles, its placement of high value on fertility and procreation, the sexual adoration of the dear leader and the high ranking officials of the fascistic machine. To Salo, death and sex are two sides of the same ideological coin and serve the same bitter end: to justify and perpetuate a poisonous ideology which places weak above strong, pure above impure, and "us" above "them".
This is of course just one aspect of the movie. The film explores many aspects of the fascistic ethos very in depth. Yet the film never hammers you over the head with these critiques. There's a subtly to it. The shit eating scenes, for example, have been seen by many critics as representative of the mass production of factory food under high-modernism, with fascism being the ideology which takes high-modernism to its logical, most extreme and absurd end. Thus under the absurdity of high modernism and its rigid factorial systems of production and growth for production and growth's sake, the difference between nourishment and shit becomes negligible. Consumption and regurgitation become again two sides of the same ideological coin. It's a much smarter film than a lot of people let on, and its reputation as shocking and exploitative have ruined it to a certain extent, at least in the eyes of its reputation with the general filmic public. But regardless of the historical and current cultural context surrounding the film, the film as *pure text* is rich in detail, subversion and meaning and lends itself well to many fascinating readings.
JK IT'S ACTUALLY JUST JUST POOPY DOODY FUNNY SHITTIES. HAHAHA YOU THOUGHT THERE WAS A DEEPER MEANING IN THE POO-POO FEAST?!
@Store Things than why is it pretentious?
@Store Things Yeah, you gotta point. That's just how I write when I'm doing analysis though. My degrees in history and literary criticism has made me forever sound like a snooty boi :((
Remember alex and adum collabed with Doug walker before
ruclips.net/video/zVqFAMOtwaI/видео.html
Sardo, or the 120 thousand subscribers
How can one refer to himself as a movie director, film enthusiast and refer to Pasolini as a "some Italian guy" ? Ralph should feel ashamed.
To be fair they all three seem utterly clueless. And Adam should be the one to bring in knowledge since its esteblished he is the most special interest guy here... isnt it?
Dodo Mann yeah agreed
You know how many directors are there? You can't know everything.
Nostalgia Critic’s The Wall album got taken off Bandcamp by Rob Scallon himself. Still on Spotify
Very disappointed you seem to have done no research, i mean none on Pasolini or the meaning of the film? The movie is not just “one note” saying “Fascism is bad” it is a criticism of consumerism and comes from Pasolini being disappointed that his movies were falling into commercialism. I mean Pasolini was a communist intellectual after all. He even said of Salo “My film shows the sinister connection between consumerism and Nazism.”
Edit: Thank you Ralph
lol movie sucks your gay idiot
@@mothdustmusic that is not Adum
Don't worry. I'm writing a video responding to it. Hopefully it'll be out real soon here.
It's kind of sad seeing people like Ralph, who has proven many times he loves cinema, not have familiarity with this director. He is not ''some italian guy'', but Pier Paolo Pasolini, a heavyweight of cinema and bloody legend if you will. It just shows how problematic the exposure to almost exclusively english language cinema is in america.
44 on Spotify is the Midsommar episode. Uploaded the wrong file mates.
Alex, the reason why some background characters weren't as good as acting it's because they weren't actors, the director picked up people off the street and told them to be in his movie.
Fun fact: He got murdered shortly after the movie, they ran him over with a car several times and crushed his genitals. Til this day, the case is unsolved
Which movie?
who got murdered? the director?
As soon as the worst scene question came up, I knew Adam would bring up nymphomaniacs
The only thing which would make Salò more disturbing, is the soundtrack being overdubbed with Nostalgia Critic’s “The Wall” album.
Woah
I noticed the creaking gate sound is even in Bennie and Joon. You hear a portion of it at the start when Benny opens their mailbox. I bought & rewatched the film a few years ago for my personal collection. 🥰💖 Benny and Joon has stood the test of time for me. Lots of wonderful actors are in it.
1:05:00 Another good director who made a good religious movie: Pasolini, the Salo director, who also made The Gospel According to St. Matthew.
You've talked about Southland tales and Showgirls...can you talk about Ishtar?
These
Pawns!
You guys should watch the 1970 film “The Conformist” directed by Bernardo Bertolucci, it follows a man who works for a fascist government.
I would definitely recommend looking more into the source material for salò. The literature was written by marquis de sade in 1785 while held in prison. From the information available it could easily be said this was less a criticism and more a sexual fantasy for the guy. Puts a big spin on what you can get out of the subject matter. Very interesting rabbit hole to dive down and it'd be interesting to hear your thoughts with that in mind.
I loved the schlocky dumb scenes in Ad Astra! I thought the juxtaposition of those scenes with the overall serious, emotional underlying theme of the movie was great. If it was all super serious or all schlocky action, I dont think I would have liked it as much.
For the spotify of this episode you accidentally uploaded the midsommar episode with this episodes name.
Uh-oh, they reused fanart for the intro!
The narration was also my biggest problem with Ad Astra. There’s literally a scene where he’s in a rocket on his way to Neptune and his narration says “I’m on my way to Neptune”
...LIKE, DUDE, WE KNOW
Other than that I really liked it. The set-pieces were pretty fantastic, and I really liked the subtle world-building. I almost want to edit the narration out of the movie just to see how things would play out without it.
I know this is asking a lot from you guys, but I would LOVE to hear you guys talk about Jacques Tati’s “PlayTime” HAVING SEEN at least 1 or 2 of Tati’s films previously. I say that because I think you get a lot more out of playtime after you’ve seen at least Mon Oncle, and I’d really love to hear them talk about it
Epic show guys. Thank You.
Also the about the “socially irresponsible media” question. We had something happen like that in 1993 here in the UK when two ten year old boys abducted and murdered a two year old boy. They blamed the film Chucky that made the ten year olds to do it.
I'm so glad you guys are talking about The King of Comedy next. It's definitely one of the best Martin Scorsese and movie in general. Also one of the funniest movie I've seen.
Please do price of Egypt one day. I’m honestly embarrassed you’re up to episode 44 and we’ve only had one serious dreamworks discussion
Or more animated movies in general, besides memes like the Madagascar series. I'd like to see them discuss "A Scanner Darkly".
I had to read the entire 120 day of sodom book for a class a few years back. glad i read it, but lost all sex drive for a few weeks cause i couldn't get it out of my head.
Have you guys followed #ChangetheChannel at all? That will make you hate Doug Walker, or at least seriously question his morality, priorities, and perspective.
dude the howie scream is the funniest sound in the world, it always makes me laugh every single time
1:07:48 There I am, Gary! There I am! Thanks, dudes!
The fan art is pretty dang good today.
As someone who’s read the book, I don’t think Alex would get any more out of it. The book is incredibly repetitive and most of it is just about eating shit and farting in each other’s faces. Literally.
The really ‘disturbing’ ending was actually never finished and is just in note form.
Gotta say though, I’m surprised Adam didn’t know about the book. As gross as it is, it is/was a very important book, and we actually get the term ‘sadism’ from its author - the Marquis de Sade.
Edit: Funnily enough, I didn’t know there was a film of The Painted Bird! I’ve read the book and it’s very well written and disturbing (more than Salo imo).
I heavily associate the 'door creak' with Morrowind, so that's all I think about whenever i hear it.
The album is still on Spotify
Luckily, it got taken off Bandcamp
My #1 most hated sound effect is that goddamn wolf snarl. Every single time a wolf is on screen in a tv show, movie, or game, they play the barking growl. Even if it makes no sense. I just heard it in Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal and was immediately taken out. It's just overused enough to be redundant and not enough to be ironic.
The bear growl is used a lot too but obviously not as much
Love you guys, but you really should research more of the background for movies like Saló. Understanding the fascist symbols in the movie, the background of the director, his death following the movie and Marquis de Sade's book are crucial points to touch and would make this review better and a lot deeper.
Saló has been one of my favourite films since I’ve watched it. It’s a bit scary tho when Sardonicast recommends something and I’ve actually watched it for once, and it just happens to be the film about the literal Nazi rape mansion!!
I heard about Salo through Jonathan Davis of Korn when he did a “what’s in my bag” video and this was one of the movies he picked and I became curious and Wikipedia the movie.
Nice !
lmao adam didn't even know Salò was based on a book. like how
2010 and 2014 are pretty great years for cinema as well. This decade was great, you could throw in 2017, too.
I hadn't actually watched any nostalgia critic videos until now.
I will never forgive you for what you've done to me.
Can't wait for the Joker review from you guys: from what I can tell from the recommendation, you guys might be doing it
Yeah Alex’s thoughts on Salò are spot on to mine.
The sound effect that bothers me the most is the generic children laughing one, because it always reminds me of the Diddy Kong Racing intro, and some movies use it in serious emotional reunion scenes
So many weird out of context quotes can be extracted from this.
The book is NOT better by the way. If anything it's purely pornographic. Not worth reading, the film kind of subverts the book in a strange way by using it to criticise the exact kind of people it's author was.
Adam comments about how its like fanfiction. The literature its based off of was just that. However going into te history of who wrote it questions whether some came from personal experience due to some parts being explicit and grapically detailed.
Just an abominable piece of literature altogether
You guys need to talk about "The Joker" I really would like to hear your guy's view on the 2019 take of DC's good movie. And it has been a very long time DC put out a really good movie this year.
"I've gotta look up the director, some Italian guy," in reference to one of the most celebrated of 20th century artists and intelligentsia.
Yeah, you'd think these assholes could take an hour to do some research before making their podcasts. They didn't even know it was based on a book by the Marquis de Sade!
Good job adding subtitles!
Damm. They finally did it. I have problem in hearing and now it's helpful.
Indeed! Not only that, but you can transcript what they are saying, so that it can be used for parodies, jokes, or other entertainment-related content!
@@markparkinson6947 ohh. Damm. Didn't think of that.
Dude, I think we just gave each other some powerful ideas, didn’t we? 😈😈
@@markparkinson6947 yes we did. Cheers.
I agree with Ralph that if Ad Astra was re-edited to take out a lot of voice-over and some scenes it could potentially be a good movie.
“Uh Oh! Sardoni! Cast!!!”
You three are my favorite couple on youtube
Guys do Moon (2009). It's an EXCELLENT film on the psychological effects of being in space for a long time. And Rockwell's acting is AMAZING! Critically underrated film. Unfortunately Duncan Jones took his career down the shitter after that...
Wait! Ralph isn’t a real Scientologist!
oh god you brave bois saw Salò.