As I research Diode Lasers, CO2s and CNCs. I find myself coming back to your page. xTool seem to be on top and they are proud of their product. so I am thinking I can bit the bullet. Save up and jump into this space well equipped. Then I stumble on another video you posted on The Beast, the Atezr V35. Which you later extended the work area and build a large an impressive enclosure. That gives me an affordable option to xTool. The statement you made , "I test the machine in a business environment," is one of the main reason I keep coming back to your page. Now I am thinking of the type of projects I want to take on. Like slate coasters, signs, tumblers, and engrave photos in glass. Letting projects guide my purchasing decision.
Yes, make sure the work area is compatible with what you plan to do with the machine. There are lots of good options out there but each has its strong points and negatives. I use my machines on projects and jobs every week and not every machines is built for every job.
Efficient process! you are definitely ready when retirement is knocking on the door! I loved seeing all the signage you have made for your "shack". Like the command center, the boxes labeled, shack keys etc. Good inspiration for beginners like me. Just using mine for Christmas gifts and fun, but i still learn from all these videos . thanks for taking the time to film and share. Glad the surg. recovery is going well.
Love your videos. It's been helpful in developing skills with my laser. Quick question - could you have batched out these beehive panels on the S1 faster with the automatic conveyor feeder accessory? Seems possible. The conveyor allows for a media length of 118" (at a width of 19.6"), so maybe beehive panels taped end-to-end on a long sled? Could fit maybe 5 of the larger beehive panels and 10 of the smaller ones (two rows of five). Just curious if it is feasible. I hope they send you the conveyor too. Keep up the great content.
You have to take into consideration setup time, having to align them would take longer than simply setting it on the workspace. Also, adding the conveyor requires additional space that I do not want to dedicate to something that I would only need occasionally (assuming that it did help). Also, I am not sure I trust the rollers not to slip or cause shift in the dusty world of woodworking. In an office environment, the rubber rollers would probably stay sticky but in my shop, even rotary rollers struggle after a few weeks in the dust. Everyone's situation and perspective is different, that is just mine.
@@TheClackShack Thanks for the quick response. Having a conveyor taking up valuable space in the shop would certainly be a pain. As you mentioned, I'm very curious about roller traction and power of the motors feeding the material. Keep on burnin'!
Got my first laser yesterday, went with the S1. Love it so far, but was super disappointed to find out the latest firmware removed the feature in this video of just hitting the go button for rerun. I looked everywhere in software before heading to google. Hopefully they bring it back...
Another great video! I’m 2 months in to the laser venture, and your channel has been instrumental in my progress, especially your jig systems which I’ve purchased and LOVE!! Quick question: can you recommend a supplier for the laser safety panels? I’m ready to build my own enclosure and at the moment, that’s the missing element. Cheers!
JTech photonics is where I order mine. I have ordered several sheets from them. The shipping is a little high so order as much as you need on the first order. jtechphotonics.com/?product=445nm-laser-shielding-24-x-12
Just curious, why not use 3- 60w, or 80w, or 100w machines with bigger work beds or is there some other advantage to your system now, great vids, can you do a video about this topic thanks, continued success to you also.
mostly cost and size requirements. These guys are far cheaper, more versatile and compact than any larger CO2 on the market. Other than that, there isn't the need for the overhead expense and maintenance of the bigger machine. Keep in mind, I have built my customer base around what machines and capabilities I have. I didn't buy machines then try to find customers for them.
Grab the bar at the top with the mouse and drag it to one side or the other of either monitor. Windows will automatically throw it in the side of the screen.
Hi new to your channel thanks for all the info. I just got my S1 and am learning the machine. are you saying with the jig you made you took the honey comb out and doubled sided tape stuck to the bottom of the unit securing the jig?...Thanks again Chris
I'm a greenhorn, a bought a atezr p20, using it in my garage// shop. I live in Texas on the gulf coast and next to a canal with saltwater, should i build a encloser or add a dehumidifier inside the shop. if i build or don't build the encloser what setup to use for removing smoke out of the room besides opening the doors.
cheap marketing, start a facebook page and market to your local area, word of mouth works good in some areas. Its a hussle and takes a while to get known.
Curious how the air assist causes sone scorching? Definitely a newbie question, but I ordered my S1 and waiting on it to arrive. Trying to learn as much as possible. Great video and thanks so much.
With this being a customer who provided the graphic that was already usable and required no editing and the fact that I was doing 120 pieces, I didn't change any setup fee. Also, the items were provided by the customer with no cost to me. All I charge for is the burn. Using my jigs, I have very little setup for each burn. I them determine how long each burn will take, (Using the slowest machine being used) On this job, each burn only took around 7 minutes on the 20 watt. If I operate efficiently, that means that my slowest machine can turn out about 8 units per hour. I try to get $40-50 per hour per machine for burns. That means that at $5 per burn, I make $40 per hour on my slowest machine. I ran 3 machines on this job, a 20 watt Algolaser, an Atezr V35 and the xTool S1. The faster 35 and 40 watt machines actually get me a little better turn around time to make up for my miscalculations. Running this job, my hourly income was around $120 hour (STANDARD PRICING) but I do give Jason the friends and family discount and didn't charge him that much. I feel that $120 per hour or $600 before lunch is a pretty good check had this been a regularly priced job. My rule of thumb has became, if its an easy setup and low risk burn that I can cover the burn with my hand $5-10 per burn. tumblers or engraves that are slightly larger than one hand 15 to 20 each burn. Anything bigger than that, use time it will take plus expenses and base it on what you wanna make per hour. Bulk jobs are best because jiggin them makes it fast.
What glass are you using on your enclosures ? I have an enclosure I just had built by a friend that builds cabinets. It has three 12’x12’ openings for the glass.
This setup is actually on two different circuits but typically with diode setups, you can run 3 on a 15 amp circuit. The lasers really don't pull much more power than the PC.
I’m brand new to lasers and looking to buy a cheap, functional diode on a Black Friday sale. Is there a brand I should look at that’s pretty good for newbies and inexpensive?
No, offset fill would be about 45 seconds longer and the burn lines would not stay cross grain like I want for the dark burn. Flood fill would add 1 minute and again, the burn lines would not stay cross grain. Contrary to what a lot of people claim, depending on the design, flood or offset isn't always a time saver. I intentionally set this design up to 90 degree angle burn to avoid running with the grain on the burn.
Just remember every .10 of a minute that machine is not burning wood it costing you time to run another job. In conclusion I would place a blank piece next to every machine after you have sanded one. The machine makes you money when it burns. “If it ain’t burning your losing.”
“Never let the laser wait on you.” Great advice on productivity! Thank you for sharing your process!
You are so welcome!
It was so great seeing you at Craft-a-cropolis today! Praying for your continued recovery!
Thanks, hope yall had fun... Good to see all of yall
GREAT to see you moving around!!!!!!!!
Great to be moving around, thanks
As I research Diode Lasers, CO2s and CNCs. I find myself coming back to your page. xTool seem to be on top and they are proud of their product. so I am thinking I can bit the bullet. Save up and jump into this space well equipped. Then I stumble on another video you posted on The Beast, the Atezr V35. Which you later extended the work area and build a large an impressive enclosure. That gives me an affordable option to xTool.
The statement you made , "I test the machine in a business environment," is one of the main reason I keep coming back to your page.
Now I am thinking of the type of projects I want to take on. Like slate coasters, signs, tumblers, and engrave photos in glass. Letting projects guide my purchasing decision.
Yes, make sure the work area is compatible with what you plan to do with the machine. There are lots of good options out there but each has its strong points and negatives. I use my machines on projects and jobs every week and not every machines is built for every job.
Efficient process! you are definitely ready when retirement is knocking on the door! I loved seeing all the signage you have made for your "shack". Like the command center, the boxes labeled, shack keys etc. Good inspiration for beginners like me. Just using mine for Christmas gifts and fun, but i still learn from all these videos . thanks for taking the time to film and share. Glad the surg. recovery is going well.
Thanks.. Yea, you can get carried away with custom signage... lol
Great video! Good to see you moving around better, young man.
Thanks, great to be able to move better,,
Glad to see you getting around better! Another great Video.
Yes, thank you
Good video Clack, glad you're feeling better. Love the tip about having 2 monitors.
See you tomorrow night on the Live stream.
Kenny - Tampa
Sounds good!
Thanks for the video! Glad you are back mobile!
Me too...
Love your videos. It's been helpful in developing skills with my laser. Quick question - could you have batched out these beehive panels on the S1 faster with the automatic conveyor feeder accessory? Seems possible. The conveyor allows for a media length of 118" (at a width of 19.6"), so maybe beehive panels taped end-to-end on a long sled? Could fit maybe 5 of the larger beehive panels and 10 of the smaller ones (two rows of five). Just curious if it is feasible. I hope they send you the conveyor too. Keep up the great content.
You have to take into consideration setup time, having to align them would take longer than simply setting it on the workspace. Also, adding the conveyor requires additional space that I do not want to dedicate to something that I would only need occasionally (assuming that it did help). Also, I am not sure I trust the rollers not to slip or cause shift in the dusty world of woodworking. In an office environment, the rubber rollers would probably stay sticky but in my shop, even rotary rollers struggle after a few weeks in the dust. Everyone's situation and perspective is different, that is just mine.
@@TheClackShack Thanks for the quick response. Having a conveyor taking up valuable space in the shop would certainly be a pain. As you mentioned, I'm very curious about roller traction and power of the motors feeding the material. Keep on burnin'!
Got my first laser yesterday, went with the S1. Love it so far, but was super disappointed to find out the latest firmware removed the feature in this video of just hitting the go button for rerun. I looked everywhere in software before heading to google. Hopefully they bring it back...
Maybe so, I hadn't noticed it was gone.
Another great video! I’m 2 months in to the laser venture, and your channel has been instrumental in my progress, especially your jig systems which I’ve purchased and LOVE!! Quick question: can you recommend a supplier for the laser safety panels? I’m ready to build my own enclosure and at the moment, that’s the missing element. Cheers!
JTech photonics is where I order mine. I have ordered several sheets from them. The shipping is a little high so order as much as you need on the first order. jtechphotonics.com/?product=445nm-laser-shielding-24-x-12
@@TheClackShack perfect. Thank you again!
Just curious, why not use 3- 60w, or 80w, or 100w machines with bigger work beds or is there some other advantage to your system now, great vids, can you do a video about this topic thanks, continued success to you also.
mostly cost and size requirements. These guys are far cheaper, more versatile and compact than any larger CO2 on the market. Other than that, there isn't the need for the overhead expense and maintenance of the bigger machine. Keep in mind, I have built my customer base around what machines and capabilities I have. I didn't buy machines then try to find customers for them.
Hey Clack, how about a video to show us how to split the screen on the big monitor!
Grab the bar at the top with the mouse and drag it to one side or the other of either monitor. Windows will automatically throw it in the side of the screen.
Hi new to your channel thanks for all the info. I just got my S1 and am learning the machine. are you saying with the jig you made you took the honey comb out and doubled sided tape stuck to the bottom of the unit securing the jig?...Thanks again Chris
yes, I used carpenters tape. It is easily removable after use but holds well.
What brand and model of laser engraver is in the enclosure Zilla? The bigger enclosure. What size is its work area? Thanks I appreciate your videos!
I had both the P20 and V35 in there for a while. 430x850
They look great.
Thanks
I'm a greenhorn, a bought a atezr p20, using it in my garage// shop. I live in Texas on the gulf coast and next to a canal with saltwater, should i build a encloser or add a dehumidifier inside the shop. if i build or don't build the encloser what setup to use for removing smoke out of the room besides opening the doors.
For your materials sake, a dehumidifier will help. I haven't had any machine issues with humidity so far.
Love your shop, question ❓ how would I go about getting customers for starting up my own business?
Thanks Pete
cheap marketing, start a facebook page and market to your local area, word of mouth works good in some areas. Its a hussle and takes a while to get known.
Do you have step by step instructions on how to build those enclosures?
I have a couple of videos but not step by step.
Great tips! Thank you! What grit sandpaper do you use?
usually 120
Curious how the air assist causes sone scorching?
Definitely a newbie question, but I ordered my S1 and waiting on it to arrive. Trying to learn as much as possible.
Great video and thanks so much.
Not enough air can cause scorching, you need just enough to keep it from scorching
Understanding you are giving the “Family Discount” how did you price out this job?
im curious how you would price this too
With this being a customer who provided the graphic that was already usable and required no editing and the fact that I was doing 120 pieces, I didn't change any setup fee. Also, the items were provided by the customer with no cost to me. All I charge for is the burn. Using my jigs, I have very little setup for each burn. I them determine how long each burn will take, (Using the slowest machine being used) On this job, each burn only took around 7 minutes on the 20 watt. If I operate efficiently, that means that my slowest machine can turn out about 8 units per hour. I try to get $40-50 per hour per machine for burns. That means that at $5 per burn, I make $40 per hour on my slowest machine. I ran 3 machines on this job, a 20 watt Algolaser, an Atezr V35 and the xTool S1. The faster 35 and 40 watt machines actually get me a little better turn around time to make up for my miscalculations. Running this job, my hourly income was around $120 hour (STANDARD PRICING) but I do give Jason the friends and family discount and didn't charge him that much. I feel that $120 per hour or $600 before lunch is a pretty good check had this been a regularly priced job.
My rule of thumb has became, if its an easy setup and low risk burn that I can cover the burn with my hand $5-10 per burn. tumblers or engraves that are slightly larger than one hand 15 to 20 each burn. Anything bigger than that, use time it will take plus expenses and base it on what you wanna make per hour. Bulk jobs are best because jiggin them makes it fast.
You have been a great help God Bless
Glad to hear it
What glass are you using on your enclosures ? I have an enclosure I just had built by a friend that builds cabinets. It has three 12’x12’ openings for the glass.
Laser safe acrylic from JTech photonics
@@TheClackShack Thank you for the info !
good job, thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Curious what is your electric setup so you can use 3 machines at one time? Are they on one 15amp switch or more?
This setup is actually on two different circuits but typically with diode setups, you can run 3 on a 15 amp circuit. The lasers really don't pull much more power than the PC.
I’m brand new to lasers and looking to buy a cheap, functional diode on a Black Friday sale. Is there a brand I should look at that’s pretty good for newbies and inexpensive?
There are several companies having sales this time of year. Atezr, Atomstack and Two Trees are some of the most affordable currently.
If your machine cycle time is say 3 minutes then 10 .10’s is 1/3 of another panel. It all adds up.
Not sure I follow but ... ok
How fast is that s1 on that size engraving? Thanks!
Engrave at around 300mms
Would an "Offset Fill" be faster?
No, offset fill would be about 45 seconds longer and the burn lines would not stay cross grain like I want for the dark burn. Flood fill would add 1 minute and again, the burn lines would not stay cross grain. Contrary to what a lot of people claim, depending on the design, flood or offset isn't always a time saver. I intentionally set this design up to 90 degree angle burn to avoid running with the grain on the burn.
Just remember every .10 of a minute that machine is not burning wood it costing you time to run another job.
In conclusion I would place a blank piece next to every machine after you have sanded one. The machine makes you money when it burns. “If it ain’t burning your losing.”
I have minimal idle time when I am not videoing... lol
Can you “dig” it…oh yea, you surenuff can.
Absolutely