Many viewers keep getting the wrong idea about this video. I'm not saying the first location you build your altar at is not good. Just that you might not want to consider it as your "forever or main base" therefore look around first especially early on before committing upgrades. Yes you can map around easily and even gain upgrade materials easily later on, but this first area also already has a free altar here to map back to at any time so feel free to explore and build that base where you like. :)
Can't you remove your first altar? I guess I haven't tried but does it reset your altar level? I built a bare minimum house a the first location and have been hunting for a perfect pre-built house location since.
@@shadyrebob5999 you can remove them by "extinguishing flame" takes like 30 seconds. You will ose the altar level, but not the flame level ups, those are saved.
You can upgrade the altar as you want, they are super cheap even in early game and only cost easy to get materials. The expensive upgrades wich are the Flame Levels are global and shared between all altars. Those are more like "Server Upgades". Also usually you should never place your base near a Jumping Tower since those already act as fast travel points by themselves.
Given you can fast travel, surely just a shack in your 2nd location would work just as well? As long as your can fast travel to it, spot 1 could still be your main base, upgraded as you can fast travel there too.
I think the one thing you get out of spending a little time on the first base and building a little is learning the basic building techniques and being able to let it go when you realize it really isnt good and you would rather spend time building up a beautiful location. We built up Woodgard. Its gorgeous. The church is our crafting hall and we have rebuilt it mostly. Its epic and the tudor style house is our house. The farm land is there to farm. The well is right there in harvest homestead. Then when you are able too you can put in wells for easy access. Its an amazing game. Im loving it. Also looking forward to unlocking all the materials to be able to rebuild it. Its a very fun thing and you feel like you are restoring Woodguard to its former glory. We had to expand the flame shrine as much as possible to include most of the church. Id recommend putting your flame shrine about 20' closer to the church than right next to the existing flame spot to encompass all the church when your flame shrine is fully expanded.
The first base quest tip says that you dont have to build where it indicates. It actually lets you place it anywhere. I built my first base in longkeep and am still renovating the abandoned location to its former glory
The best second Base location is further north West. There is a tavern called the green goblet or something. Drop an alter in it, and it's instant comfort level 26 without placing anything else. Plenty of room for everything across multiple floors etc 👌
Just started the game an hour ago or so, and the last point you made, about not wanting to upgrade your first alter (because why would anyone even want to live there?) is exactly why I clicked this video and confirmed what I thought. I don't understand why you're getting ratio'd. I'll sub for ya.
While I can understand why you'd want to do this to some degree - I prefer having the wide open space of the plains to start with. From there, I slowly build up my base and place down altars further afield in each direction to build smaller outposts that still have the main tools I'll need. This lets me travel to each cardinal direction far more quickly and still allows me to have my main (And beautified) base in the plains.
I made a base on the mountain, you know the mountain just to the left of the "story of rot" obelisk... I climbed up to the top and popped down a alter. It being at the top of a mountain there aren't many resources, but (it being on top of a mountain) I can quickly paraglide to any area that has resources quickly. It also being so high up has one of the best views in the game. I'm still like early game.
@@xdarthpool6463 I haven't done a mountain top base yet, but it's on my to-do list. Just found a spot to try an inner-mountain area in the nomad area so we'll see how that goes. Thanks for commenting.
I mean, when you can fast travel so easily, first base location seems a little less relevant. Keep a couple stone on you and just make/dismantle travel points when you need them.
Can only second this. Choose the location of you "Main" Base simply on where you like it to be. As long as you are not in Enshrouded, you are just a fast travel away, wherever you are on the map.
@@rparavicini fast travel is great but as the map opens up you do start to feel the size creep in a little, even with so many flame altars you can place. I like to keep 2 open at all times as I'm advancing to a new area I can place one down if I feel like I'm entering a dangerous area and then another one further in or near some good resources.
@@CasaBLACKpretty much from the beginning on, you can have 4 active altars. 1 is spent for your Main Base whereever and then you have 3+ (as you get more further down the road, up to 15 what I read) to spend on spots you want to travel to. I cannot see than I ever will run out of altar slots, as I can just jump to one I dont need anymore and exinguish it, to have at least one unspent at all times. I don't want to dis your video or anything, I even like the heads up to new players not to spend precious resources on a base you dont want wo keep. But the location where your "main" base is, is simply put irrelevant, as long as you like it there, as "losing" 1 of at least 4 spots is no big deal
came here to say the same thing. the place for the base is even more pointless because you can literally just fast travel and fly there. I dont need a base somewhere I can fly to off a fast travel - thats a waste
Cheers I was looking for a video like this. Seems like a lot of people don't get that the first base you make in a survival game is never where you want to stay long term.
I like building bases near Boss enemies to be able to farm them quickly. Also after the quest of building the first base I get rid of the first base because you already have a teleport point to the location you spawned in the game.
I use that first base location for a farm, Basically terraformed the entire area to be farm soil and grow all the crops i can with the house having some crafters, the farmer npc, cooking station and grow kits
Wherever you make your "main" base make sure there is a well near by or you can craft one to make farming easy. You need lots of water for farming and in the later game you need those buffs, flax, and so on that farming gives you. You can choose to have your farm at a separate location, just keep all if this in mind as you plan.
Gonna follow your advice on the base in Springlands. Is that location near the Fort, btw? Only problem is...I kinda wanted a large porch where I can put the Altar, crafting table and the blacksmith stuff.
It's not super flat, but can be with terraforming. I have built two different bases there now along that hill. It has a slope and is right behing (jujst north of) that very first ancient spire you open up.
@@CasaBLACK I think I made a mistake using the large foundation squares to build and remove to make it even. Area looks like a mining company have been there. I mean, the rake doesn't always flatten the ground even when holding the button down. Yes, I checked the angle.
I found a tower abandoned NE from Revelwood spire that I turned into base. Bramblespine boneyard, flame sanctum next to it, go straight north towards Abandoned hunter camp. The tower is so tall that the chest on top isn't in the building range, so i farm it all the time. The boneyard and camp have also chests, and to the east is shroud area where I farm those shroud sacks. Also Ancient spire nearby with lots of mobs and a boss and the area is rich in clay, copper, and plant stuff. The tower itself needs work though... It has 3 floors that are semi-accessible but can be better built I still love it tho as I can also glide around to spots
no, the tower I speak of is open. Not the one at the scavenger camp. Whenever I found these are sealed and protected. You can only jump through a window@@CasaBLACK
And why is that? It's great for getting you started but after you've done that many other places are far better for aesthetics, views, and easy access to later resources.
@@zenwilds2911 Many mobs drop water skins, and you can quickly fast travel to the start area to grab extra water. I based at Fort Kelvin which has no well, but I got farming started without it and all the other amenities and resources far outweighed the inconvenience. Now that I've built a well I have water plus all the other stuff. If a well is a must-have for you, you can make a base at Harvest Homestead right after unlocking the first spire. Farmhouse with good comfort level, extra buildings for workers, a well, farm plots, shroud resources, and respawning loot chests are all very close by. Play any way you like but I think it beats the start location in just about every respect.
@@scotte4765 Outside of easy well access as someone mentioned, it's actually a large location (and mostly flat area), and builders can even build up Longkeep. I'm personally still making a huge base at location 1 just for that reason. There are Flame Altars enough, so there are time and resources enough to build multiple bases (for the sake and fun of it). Also if you get the Spires and drop down some well placed Altars in the world, you can fast-travel to a lot of locations anyway.
@@rakuloe Looks like RUclips swallowed my second reply, so I'll try it again. Harvest Homestead can be reached in one glider flight after you unlock the first spire, and it has all of the above plus more: multiple buildings with comfort furniture, a well, plots with farm soil, plenty of buildable space, access to shroud resources, and respawning loot chests in nearby structures. Everyone should play how they like, and you're right about multiple bases, but on a one-to-one comparison Harvest Homestead beats the start location in almost every respect.
Not sinking a lot of time and resources into the starter base is great advice overall, but you make it sound like shroud cores (for altar size upgrades) and other early resources are hard to come by, when they are not, even at early levels. A good argument can be made for staying at the starter location until level 8-10 or so, because then you will be able to safely scout out and take over locations even farther out than the hilltop you suggested, such as Fort Kelvin, the Goblet Tavern, or other forest locations close to clay, copper, and other tier 2 resources. Anyway, good video in general. Just don't imply that building a lot at the first location is some colossal mistake, because the game is very forgiving with both travel and resources.
why even build the first base at all - build the altar to finish the quest destroy it and run somewhere better - sewarcher 1h for nice spot easy ended up there with full inventory too so you could instantly start building
First base has a permanent water source in the well right by it. Easy farming. Fast travel makes it so your first base can be a town basically with small outpost throughout the world in high points on the map to glide. I respectfully disagree with your perspective here.
I did not say that my spot was better, I merely stated that for those who think they have to follow the game's instructions when placing that first altar HAS to be their base longterm, might not want to spend resources early on upgrading it like it's going to be their forever home.
@@CasaBLACK Lookup fellow RUclipsr Panjno- he is the god of driver tweaks, windows settings, and all-around GPU performance. No overclocking, he just tells you what changes to make in the driver settings and you'll be amazed.
Base location makes basically no difference in this game at present. You can drop a flame altar just for a fast travel point and since there are zero penalties to fast traveling, at least at this stage of development, there’s no need to have a base in a particular spot. Usually games like this will have encumbrance penalties linked to fast travel So having spots close to resources or loot areas is useful. Since you don’t have that worry here all you need is a fast travel spot to get you near key areas of the map, where your base is doesn’t matter.
It doesnt matter, but at the same time for those players who are used to setting up a first base as soon as they start it's almost a waste of time to set up one so close to the beginning which also has a free shrine right there in the starter cave. The point being this game is different and you dont have to nuts with that first altar.
Why even use that first location to eat up a flame alter slot to begin with? You can just use the start area for a fast travel if you REALLY need to go back to that area for some reason. After you have the glider you don't even need to run through the cave anymore, just jump off right at the start and you're at the plains. I'd suggest people just extinguish the flame on that first alter and use it at a location you really need a fast travel node at.
Doesn’t make sense kind of a pointless tip travel in this game is easy and upgrading alters is easy once you unlock the alchemist you can basically craft shroud cores easy
@@regalgiant1597 nah it does make sense. Absolutely pointless tip because you can really use tutorial area as main base. It's nice and flat. There is no need to make your base in any particular spot because of fast travel.
Many viewers keep getting the wrong idea about this video. I'm not saying the first location you build your altar at is not good. Just that you might not want to consider it as your "forever or main base" therefore look around first especially early on before committing upgrades. Yes you can map around easily and even gain upgrade materials easily later on, but this first area also already has a free altar here to map back to at any time so feel free to explore and build that base where you like. :)
Can't you remove your first altar? I guess I haven't tried but does it reset your altar level?
I built a bare minimum house a the first location and have been hunting for a perfect pre-built house location since.
@@shadyrebob5999 you can remove them by "extinguishing flame" takes like 30 seconds. You will ose the altar level, but not the flame level ups, those are saved.
You can upgrade the altar as you want, they are super cheap even in early game and only cost easy to get materials. The expensive upgrades wich are the Flame Levels are global and shared between all altars. Those are more like "Server Upgades". Also usually you should never place your base near a Jumping Tower since those already act as fast travel points by themselves.
Like your content but the music is too loud.
Given you can fast travel, surely just a shack in your 2nd location would work just as well? As long as your can fast travel to it, spot 1 could still be your main base, upgraded as you can fast travel there too.
I think the one thing you get out of spending a little time on the first base and building a little is learning the basic building techniques and being able to let it go when you realize it really isnt good and you would rather spend time building up a beautiful location. We built up Woodgard. Its gorgeous. The church is our crafting hall and we have rebuilt it mostly. Its epic and the tudor style house is our house. The farm land is there to farm. The well is right there in harvest homestead. Then when you are able too you can put in wells for easy access. Its an amazing game. Im loving it. Also looking forward to unlocking all the materials to be able to rebuild it. Its a very fun thing and you feel like you are restoring Woodguard to its former glory. We had to expand the flame shrine as much as possible to include most of the church. Id recommend putting your flame shrine about 20' closer to the church than right next to the existing flame spot to encompass all the church when your flame shrine is fully expanded.
The first base quest tip says that you dont have to build where it indicates. It actually lets you place it anywhere. I built my first base in longkeep and am still renovating the abandoned location to its former glory
The best second Base location is further north West. There is a tavern called the green goblet or something. Drop an alter in it, and it's instant comfort level 26 without placing anything else. Plenty of room for everything across multiple floors etc 👌
Yeah that place is a nice spot with lots of clay and copper close by too.
I can't remember doesn't it also have a well making it easy to farm?
Just started the game an hour ago or so, and the last point you made, about not wanting to upgrade your first alter (because why would anyone even want to live there?) is exactly why I clicked this video and confirmed what I thought. I don't understand why you're getting ratio'd. I'll sub for ya.
Wow, thanks for the tips! I had no idea that if you sink upgrades into altars that you don't get them back when you dismantle them! Thank you! 🕊
While I can understand why you'd want to do this to some degree - I prefer having the wide open space of the plains to start with. From there, I slowly build up my base and place down altars further afield in each direction to build smaller outposts that still have the main tools I'll need. This lets me travel to each cardinal direction far more quickly and still allows me to have my main (And beautified) base in the plains.
to each their own. I like a nice grassy plains area myself, I just found an area I like even more than that initial starter area.
I made a base on the mountain, you know the mountain just to the left of the "story of rot" obelisk... I climbed up to the top and popped down a alter. It being at the top of a mountain there aren't many resources, but (it being on top of a mountain) I can quickly paraglide to any area that has resources quickly. It also being so high up has one of the best views in the game. I'm still like early game.
@@xdarthpool6463 I haven't done a mountain top base yet, but it's on my to-do list. Just found a spot to try an inner-mountain area in the nomad area so we'll see how that goes. Thanks for commenting.
I mean, when you can fast travel so easily, first base location seems a little less relevant. Keep a couple stone on you and just make/dismantle travel points when you need them.
Can only second this. Choose the location of you "Main" Base simply on where you like it to be. As long as you are not in Enshrouded, you are just a fast travel away, wherever you are on the map.
@@rparavicini fast travel is great but as the map opens up you do start to feel the size creep in a little, even with so many flame altars you can place. I like to keep 2 open at all times as I'm advancing to a new area I can place one down if I feel like I'm entering a dangerous area and then another one further in or near some good resources.
@@CasaBLACKpretty much from the beginning on, you can have 4 active altars. 1 is spent for your Main Base whereever and then you have 3+ (as you get more further down the road, up to 15 what I read) to spend on spots you want to travel to. I cannot see than I ever will run out of altar slots, as I can just jump to one I dont need anymore and exinguish it, to have at least one unspent at all times.
I don't want to dis your video or anything, I even like the heads up to new players not to spend precious resources on a base you dont want wo keep. But the location where your "main" base is, is simply put irrelevant, as long as you like it there, as "losing" 1 of at least 4 spots is no big deal
came here to say the same thing. the place for the base is even more pointless because you can literally just fast travel and fly there. I dont need a base somewhere I can fly to off a fast travel - thats a waste
exactly. You need your bases as far away from built in fast travel points as possible to maximize travel efficiency@@JoshuaDay0550
Cheers I was looking for a video like this. Seems like a lot of people don't get that the first base you make in a survival game is never where you want to stay long term.
Exactly, you get it! Thanks!
game progression? building multiple bases?
can you put crafters in all your bases or only one and move them if you want ?like more then one blacksmith or you only get one a game?
only one for now but its one of the most requested features to have multiple.
I like building bases near Boss enemies to be able to farm them quickly. Also after the quest of building the first base I get rid of the first base because you already have a teleport point to the location you spawned in the game.
Smart idea! Always needing cores.
I use that first base location for a farm, Basically terraformed the entire area to be farm soil and grow all the crops i can with the house having some crafters, the farmer npc, cooking station and grow kits
It is a great flat area for farms no doubt.
Wherever you make your "main" base make sure there is a well near by or you can craft one to make farming easy. You need lots of water for farming and in the later game you need those buffs, flax, and so on that farming gives you. You can choose to have your farm at a separate location, just keep all if this in mind as you plan.
100%, water for farming is no joke.
Where can I find the background music?
Gonna follow your advice on the base in Springlands. Is that location near the Fort, btw?
Only problem is...I kinda wanted a large porch where I can put the Altar, crafting table and the blacksmith stuff.
It's not super flat, but can be with terraforming. I have built two different bases there now along that hill. It has a slope and is right behing (jujst north of) that very first ancient spire you open up.
@@CasaBLACK I think I made a mistake using the large foundation squares to build and remove to make it even. Area looks like a mining company have been there.
I mean, the rake doesn't always flatten the ground even when holding the button down. Yes, I checked the angle.
I found a tower abandoned NE from Revelwood spire that I turned into base. Bramblespine boneyard, flame sanctum next to it, go straight north towards Abandoned hunter camp. The tower is so tall that the chest on top isn't in the building range, so i farm it all the time. The boneyard and camp have also chests, and to the east is shroud area where I farm those shroud sacks. Also Ancient spire nearby with lots of mobs and a boss and the area is rich in clay, copper, and plant stuff.
The tower itself needs work though... It has 3 floors that are semi-accessible but can be better built
I still love it tho as I can also glide around to spots
I like that spot and that shroud area is a great place for some combat. I was wondering if the tower had anything inside since the doors do not open.
no, the tower I speak of is open. Not the one at the scavenger camp. Whenever I found these are sealed and protected. You can only jump through a window@@CasaBLACK
Thanks for this good idea and all the other good ideas in the comments :)
Is it easy or possible to mve my Crafstmen to the 2nd base ?? already have blacksmith and waant to start my 2nd base
Yes it is. You just need the summoning staff
I'd argue that the first location is one of the better spots to have a main base.
And why is that? It's great for getting you started but after you've done that many other places are far better for aesthetics, views, and easy access to later resources.
Easy well access.
Farming is unlocked before we can craft wells.
@@zenwilds2911 Many mobs drop water skins, and you can quickly fast travel to the start area to grab extra water. I based at Fort Kelvin which has no well, but I got farming started without it and all the other amenities and resources far outweighed the inconvenience. Now that I've built a well I have water plus all the other stuff.
If a well is a must-have for you, you can make a base at Harvest Homestead right after unlocking the first spire. Farmhouse with good comfort level, extra buildings for workers, a well, farm plots, shroud resources, and respawning loot chests are all very close by. Play any way you like but I think it beats the start location in just about every respect.
@@scotte4765 Outside of easy well access as someone mentioned, it's actually a large location (and mostly flat area), and builders can even build up Longkeep. I'm personally still making a huge base at location 1 just for that reason. There are Flame Altars enough, so there are time and resources enough to build multiple bases (for the sake and fun of it). Also if you get the Spires and drop down some well placed Altars in the world, you can fast-travel to a lot of locations anyway.
@@rakuloe Looks like RUclips swallowed my second reply, so I'll try it again.
Harvest Homestead can be reached in one glider flight after you unlock the first spire, and it has all of the above plus more: multiple buildings with comfort furniture, a well, plots with farm soil, plenty of buildable space, access to shroud resources, and respawning loot chests in nearby structures. Everyone should play how they like, and you're right about multiple bases, but on a one-to-one comparison Harvest Homestead beats the start location in almost every respect.
Not sinking a lot of time and resources into the starter base is great advice overall, but you make it sound like shroud cores (for altar size upgrades) and other early resources are hard to come by, when they are not, even at early levels.
A good argument can be made for staying at the starter location until level 8-10 or so, because then you will be able to safely scout out and take over locations even farther out than the hilltop you suggested, such as Fort Kelvin, the Goblet Tavern, or other forest locations close to clay, copper, and other tier 2 resources.
Anyway, good video in general. Just don't imply that building a lot at the first location is some colossal mistake, because the game is very forgiving with both travel and resources.
Yeah I get it and its a fair point. Thanks.
Alchemist lets you make cores with the glow drops from shroud mobs and shroud liquid
Yes they do. :)
I didn't know that, I thought you had chop down shroud roots, thanks, you've just made my life easier Zen
If you take down your first altar you lose all its upgrades? It dies not het placed as a whole in your inventory?!
You lose only the building area size upgrade, nothing else. And that is very easy to get again.
why even build the first base at all - build the altar to finish the quest destroy it and run somewhere better - sewarcher 1h for nice spot easy ended up there with full inventory too so you could instantly start building
First base has a permanent water source in the well right by it. Easy farming. Fast travel makes it so your first base can be a town basically with small outpost throughout the world in high points on the map to glide. I respectfully disagree with your perspective here.
I did not say that my spot was better, I merely stated that for those who think they have to follow the game's instructions when placing that first altar HAS to be their base longterm, might not want to spend resources early on upgrading it like it's going to be their forever home.
bro the background music is fire would love a link to it as I cant find cassablack on spotify or apple music
I create it myself, but have never put it on anywhere to stream and need to make more.
I currently have 6 altars (bases) going all level 3, pretty easy to grind for them.
Yeah definitely!
Was that a 17 second "stutter" starting at 3:45? Time to ditch the Pentium II.
lol no that was not a stutter, but when you are in a menu it freezes your character like that. I am sporting a 4090 with an I9.
@@CasaBLACK Lookup fellow RUclipsr Panjno- he is the god of driver tweaks, windows settings, and all-around GPU performance. No overclocking, he just tells you what changes to make in the driver settings and you'll be amazed.
Great tip... a perfectionist like myself would have wasted fifty hours on first base.
Same.. :D
brother are u lost just place a second flame altar where you want to play for resources/exp/enemies
Base location makes basically no difference in this game at present. You can drop a flame altar just for a fast travel point and since there are zero penalties to fast traveling, at least at this stage of development, there’s no need to have a base in a particular spot. Usually games like this will have encumbrance penalties linked to fast travel So having spots close to resources or loot areas is useful. Since you don’t have that worry here all you need is a fast travel spot to get you near key areas of the map, where your base is doesn’t matter.
It doesnt matter, but at the same time for those players who are used to setting up a first base as soon as they start it's almost a waste of time to set up one so close to the beginning which also has a free shrine right there in the starter cave. The point being this game is different and you dont have to nuts with that first altar.
Don’t alters maintain their upgrades?
They do not
Why even use that first location to eat up a flame alter slot to begin with? You can just use the start area for a fast travel if you REALLY need to go back to that area for some reason. After you have the glider you don't even need to run through the cave anymore, just jump off right at the start and you're at the plains. I'd suggest people just extinguish the flame on that first alter and use it at a location you really need a fast travel node at.
Yes absolutely.
tks
Thanks for the vid mate - interested in this game but $40 bucks is a little steep for early access - so Ill keep following its progress for now )
It’s 25
@@angelsanchez2929 lol Not in Australia its not.. $40 bucks here.
Australia is scamming you bro lmao@@MethosReborn5930
40? Wtf @@MethosReborn5930
@@MethosReborn5930 Omg they are exploiting the gamers in Australia! Joke aside, I have now 25h playtime and even for 60$ I would instant buy it!
ahh damn.... i messed up 😥 lol
Doesn’t make sense kind of a pointless tip travel in this game is easy and upgrading alters is easy once you unlock the alchemist you can basically craft shroud cores easy
This comment makes no sense.
@@regalgiant1597 nah it does make sense. Absolutely pointless tip because you can really use tutorial area as main base. It's nice and flat. There is no need to make your base in any particular spot because of fast travel.
@@regalgiant1597 Clowngiant1597 ladies and gentlemen.