The Girls Who Fled To Syria: Groomed By The Islamic State
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2015
- In February 2015, three teenage schoolgirls left the comfort of their homes in East London and traveled to Syria to join the self-styled Islamic State (IS). Around 60 women and girls are thought to have made the same journey from Britain.
The story of their disappearance dominated the UK press for weeks and the blame game inevitably began to hunt out whose fault it was. When the families of Amira Abase, Shamima Begum, and Kadiza Sultana found out that the police had been interviewing the trio about another girl from their school who had already joined IS, the case was picked up for investigation by the government. But soon certain sections of the press would turn on the families themselves.
VICE News gained intimate access to the father of one girl, Amira, and joined him as he dealt with the press and parliament to find out what it's like for those left behind by the tragic choices of their loved ones.
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VICE News gained intimate access to the father of one girl, Amira, and joined him as he dealt with the press and parliament to find out what it's like for those left behind by the tragic choices of their loved ones.
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VICE News so he’s the father of 2 of the girls
lukeBbrum well on this vice piece he’s the father of the other girl then on the news he’s the farther to that Shamima Begum
@@Johndoe14812 He is the father of Amira not Shamima. Shamima is South Asian, Amira is Ethiopian.
hibz then whys he on the news pretending to be her dad 🧐
John Doe It’s my understanding that he is the spokesperson for all three of the Bethnal Green families. I have heard this on at three media outlets, while others claim him as her father.
When I was 15 I didn't know I could board a plane on my own
@@aroosaabid3427 on your own?
Matina Jazmine yes tbh,I was shitting it nervous asf and confused
@@aroosaabid3427 woow and did you book your tickets by yourself too???must have been nerve wrecking
Matina Jazmine no not the tickets my aunty came with me or they Won’t let you aboard the plane ,I was underage so god knows how these hero’s booked and left alone then in mid of the night went to the most dangerous state ever,Why was their acts not questioned or why are 3 teens awake at that time while it’s school season and not holidays either not to mention without parental guidance we fucked up on some parts too. They should imprisonment the twats who gave them the option over their safety and well being to board the plane and commit terror acts.
@@aroosaabid3427 exactly
proof having good marks doesnt make you smart
loren lolita true a lot of people don’t realise being smart is far different from being intelligent. You can be book smart but be intellectually dumb.
Lol true
loren lolita
School in fact makes you dumber. It teaches you to study, not to learn new stuff. It keeps us ignorant and teaches us to be ignorant...
You got a point ,but being young and inexperienced mean more vulnerable to influence .i feel for all those who had been brainwashed and mislead like this girls and so many others around the world ,the truth is that all of them having being used and deceived for this propaganda .
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It's sad how their parents came out to Europe to escape war, to escape poverty, to live with a better life quality, and the kids are just deciding to believe in other radicals rather then the parents. How heartbreaking these parents would be.
I know 😢😭
Heartbroken because ISIS lost in Syria!
@@ImaHaddad not really. Unless they agree with ISIS ideologies and that’s called being an extremist which is dangerous. Normal Muslims are not part of this bullshit
@@siri8240 Ideologies is rather a long word for average bigot
Because the truth is the culture and race mixing is hard for the children, they feel alienated.
the mother says herself how much she likes to control her teenage daughter. u should never treat a teenager like that because u do not know what they are facing in life. her daughter would never tell her parents anything if her mother is watching over her and with her all the time. and her father said when he talks about her he talks about himself. that is the main mistake, he thinks his daughter is just like he wants her to be. not like an other human being
Yeah, it was easy to see that she wouldn't be comfortable with both of them. But the isn't why she left.
@@scheimaa172 yeah she got brainwashed, radicalised and probably peer pressured
"Fled" to Syria? That must be the dumbest choice of words I've read.
What should of it been?
Yes it suggests that the situation she was in was dangerous and needed to flee. Fleeing to Syria for a better life is like going to a dealer to get clean. Lots of Syrians want to go to another country
Lexine Bate love your name. I named my dog Lexi because it means 'protector of the people'
3 London school girls with a straight-A who live in normal school fled to Syria for ret”ded reason
While me as a below-F who live in special ed and stayed in house playing video games or watching something or anything for good reason
Left for, Headed to, Travelled to. So many choices but yet they chose this
"....fled to Syria" is the wrong term. They travelled to Syria would be correct. One only flees when one is in danger of whatever.
But they were basically fleeing to syria, they didn't tell their parents they were going there right?
she was fleeing from the west corrupting her mind
@London Work i got a lot of robux so i have right
@@cucumber623 don't tell me you're one of them
@@cucumber623 true , freedom really corrupts people right? lmao
I never understand people moving to a country with freedom of speech and then demanding that people aren’t allowed criticize their god in anyway.
Father is legit sus.
There's a difference between freedom orlf expression and out right disrespect. You are untitled to your opinions but y go out of your way to disturb, annoy and make someone uncomfortable. You wouldn't let some talk badly about your parents infront of you for no reason on regardless of how they fell about your parents at the end of the day those r people you love and GOD 8s in much much hight status
@@vanessaantoine6808 I’m sorry, but your text as so many mistakes, that I’m legit struggling to understand what you’re saying. All I’m saying is, the father is a hypocrite, claims to be for freedom of speech yet, protests against freedom speech when it’s something that he doesn’t like. That hypocrisy. It’s easy to be tolerant of things that you like, not not with things that you don’t agree with.
it's this kind of "your fault" attitude that causes people to fall victim to radicalisation in the first place. hope you're aware of that.
@@vanessaantoine6808 - ok but i’m a part of a couple groups people _love_ to speak negatively about online (whole websites are dedicated to it), and you won’t see me protesting (or doing something worse) every time someone says disrespectful things about _fundamental aspects of who i am_ online 😳
instead, i just don’t visit those corners of the internet/social media…
@Maxum Day if you're talking about Islam ppl there's last I checked 1.7 billion of Muslims and they are everywhere . If they all reacted violence as you claim they do thi gs would be very different right now
his wife said,”he doesn’t know anything, he just followed them.” this speaks volumes
Yeah she was pissed they were getting heat because of his dumb ass mistake a few years earlier. He explained why he was there for what he was protesting etc and other used it as a chance for something else
Well, that’s exactly what the daughter did: She followed those other girls into the abyss. The blind leading the blind. I’m sure she feels sorry she ever brought this on herself….
naturally she was lying. she wants to make it seem like he wasnt to blame, like he was just out on a casual walk and had nothing to do with the others. like he was just there by chance
I don't wanna sound like a typical gen z but when she said that, I was like "massive 🧢".
@@pinkmarie8396 its just bad parenting
Afraid of dark but isn't afraid of ISIS
@Jerome Syed that's not light bro, it's evil
@@firephoenixop5579 it’s sad Islam isn’t at all like that people and media get to mix Islam with Muslims
@Himanshu Shaw The entire media is liberal media. Liberal means the free media right wing and left wing media are literally the same things with different rehetoric.
She doesn't understand exactly what she is getting into she isn't old enough to full see what she was doing I'm sure they convinced them something different!
@@mustafashanab5801 bro i understand . love everyone ❤ 💜 ♥
Who is here after shamima begum
Mee
Me
@Luna Hussey she's can be trailed in syria under Syrian law where the death penalty
@Luna Hussey I think the decision is easy
wait .. so shamima left .. but also encouraged her friends to go be Isis brides?
They clearly know more than they’re letting on, the story just doesn’t add up.
they simply following their parents views, of course their parents are hypocrites who probably whine about the west at least their daughters had the balls to practice what they preach
@Khader Alrifaee yeah like the Christian's in muslim countries they cant sleep peacefully thankfully I live in a non-islamic western country with security I can sleep peacefully even if you're living here
@@rathandevlish2787 wouldn't that be a contradiction on their part? Hating the western world while living and basing your entire life there paying taxes etc. You theory doesn't add up, probably routed in deep hatred of Muslims and Islam from what the narrative of Muslims are nowadays. It's funny because this "islamic radicalism" issue was never present in the past post 9/11. Shows that there are hidden agendas
@@rathandevlish2787 As a hindu, I agree to you.
@@darkzi1431 ain't a theory when you can simply search on RUclips protests saying sharia for Belgium france uk etc also I'm not saying all muslims I was talking about her parents in which her dad was part of the pro sharia protests plus I dont hate muslims I just point out hypocrisy
Ive got a big feeling her parents are lying and not being truthful at all about this.
Yes .ofc
True... They dont look genuine either.. I am sure that thought process started from the family.
I think they been involved in all these.its just a sacrifice of a kid on the name of Islam
They moved to UK with the hope of getting better quality of life and far away from these atrocities. Why would they want their own children to go into the same thing they ran away from?
@@chaudhary-wt4qi you could be right maybe they just are not affectionate In any way the dad is most likely from Iran his parents will of been busy constantly with no time of him...clearly his wife is of different origin.
4 years later, one of them comes back begging
just one?
lol...a herd of them.
KateLicker nah is just shamimimimimimimimimimima beguuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmm
@@prettyprincess4228 Its much more than her. She and the American ones were highlighted but there are much, much more. They ran away from a free society to go live as a wife of thugs in a war torn country, let them stay there.
Shamima... Begum to come back
na..is not. she is just the high profile one atm.
when i was 15 I thought about why spongebob Had better teeth than me.
😂😂😂😂😂
Does he though?
Are you British?
@@shawnryan2197 hahahahaha
Lucky you, I had an anime free phase because they made my life hell for watching it (it's haram), so i switched to religion and could have easily been persuaded to do the same thing the girls did, luckily there was no recruitment going on near me at the time, I just made other not as grave stupid life choices.
I still dont understand how a 15 year old can fly internationally without their parents permission.
Dad goes to extremist protest and is then suprised his daughter joins an extremist group. 🙄
When the 1st girl left, they should have informed all parents. Everyone made a mistake here. Why did the police sent letters just to the girls? Why not to parents as well?
Exactly dear.
For real
All parents in the school,all parents of the district,all parents of London?
Yeah, really stupid to give the teens they suspected the letters. Of course they wouldn't tell you the truth or hand in the letters if they are planning to leave.
exactly what i thought
Lol the father is “grateful” for how the country gives him freedom to “express” himself, yet himself protests against the same freedom afforded to others.
Not saying that this is the case but it is possible to protest against what somebody said whilst still believing they have the right to say it
Keeyan strictly speaking, what you say not an an absolute impossibility. However, the point is how can this man claim to support freedom of speech while participating in activities which suppress the very exercise of this same right by others.
At the very core of his being this man is a hypocrite. “Please protect my freedom to do/say whatever I like, but I don’t want other to be allowed to do the same”
@@teatime5536 sir, you are being biased because this man is a muslim. if jesus christ was drawn on walls , ridiculed and insulted by MUSLIMS, the whole country would demand an execution and so many protests against muslims would occur. YOU ARE BEING BIASED.
Salma Amer you are ignorance if the fact that jesus was one of important holy personin islam as well? funny exampleyou wrote.
and no, i am neither christian nor muslim.
Salma Amer I think the vast majority of Christians wouldn’t care. People in the US and UK have done exactly what you describe and nothing has happened. Maybe far-right Christians in the Southern US would care, but I don’t know why you’d want to sink to their level.
The father definitely has a big role in his daughter getting radicalized. He is portrayed to be innocent when he is not.
Just like the Indian h!ndus have a big role in selecting a genocidal leader .
Devoted to faith.
Not radical by their standards.
@@nedson6503 devoted to extremism and radical views*
@@nedson6503 True their religion and it's verses are epitome of radicalism.
That’s not true. Ethiopian Muslims are not radicals. I, as a Christian, would protest against someone who portrays my religion in a negative light. This has nothing to do with him attending a protest once. His daughter was lured by her friend. I feel for this family and hope they get reunited
It didn't occur to them that she was missing until they saw it in the news yet she shared a room with her mother? I gave my kids a good bit of freedom but I was freaking out if they didn't come home or call by midnight; I'd be texting and calling by that point, and I'm pretty lenient. I really think some of these parents knew quite well where their daughters were going.
Exactly. It’s disgusting
well they said they didn’t know she was in Syria, I’m sure they already knew she was missing they just didn’t know where she was (?) at least that’s what i understood. but yea, first red flag, they definitely know something. i find it hard to believe that they don’t
Yeah, me and my mom too shared a same bedroom, And if I am missing for 15minutes my mom will immediately start to find me
@@nipasaha2232 they knew she was missing they didn’t know where ,she was they found that on the news
@@aaliyahjackson8146 bruh If I have extra classes in school then my mom would wait outside the school for me even though we have school bus, in tution centers my mom would wait for me even when there are no extra classes
I haven't really read much into this story, but a question for my UK friends. How does a minor leave the country without her parents permission?
You have to remember that although these are 'minors' and, I really fucking hate the fact that they called them this, 'children' they are old enough to smoke tobacco, ride motorbikes, have sex etc so are really just young adults, not fucking children... they knew damn well what they were getting themselves in to and shouldn't be let off free... But parents permission? They aren't 10. All they had to do was put a few clothes in a backpack, get a cab to the airport and catch the flight.. I want to know how the hell they, and many others, get from Turkey to IS held territory when all roads/passages should be completely shut off..
ThaGamer dude. My 17 year old cousin needed a parental permission from her dad to travel with her mom from Switzerland to Canada. Same with my sister who traveled from Canada to the US with a friend. Unless the UK lets anyone over 5 feet tall with a passport leave the country I don't really get how they could have simply taken a flight to a foreign country. Unless they had all the required paperwork.
But i kinda agree. The girls knew what they were doing.
Dude she had her passport by herself and not her mom keeping it
Ryan Maynard But they flew from Gatwick airport, not by bus.
ThaGamer I agree with you, except that I hold their parents largely responsible for how they were raised as well.
I'm muslim and Arab. And, if my sister or brother younger or older found enough appeal in their madness to decide and join ISIS, I'll never want them or accept them back.
Clearly you should take some time to read about what grooming is and how it works. Whether it’s Isis or the alt-right or sex trafficking or whatever type of cults...it rarely is about the religion or the values of the group they claim to stand for. People join these organisations because they are insecure, they want to belong somewhere and feel valued. The recruiters of these groups are good at finding vulnerable people and making them feel special and like the group needs them. Teenagers are often the perfect demographic to find gullible and easily manipulated people. I would be shocked and disappointed if someone I know joined a group like Isis, but yeah, if they are as young as those girls, I’d blame the recruiters first.
@@ykMMD I meant those who join ISIS with the knowledge and support for their goals and methods.
Thanks for sharing. Your view point is helpful here
@@fuahlee5663 even so what you said was really ignorant and doesn’t acknowledge the power of grooming and indoctrination.
Well, finally someone who speaks in their full senses
How did he get asylum in Germany, only to return to the country that he fears so much, to get married and bring a family to England? Surely he couldn’t be fearing for his life so much ... and therefore his asylum case needs to be revisited. And sent back. So the whole family can be together
Looks like the parents played a big part into moulding them into being that extreme.
Her father looks like he knows something he shouldn’t...
Agreed I’m not to sure about that household
Kindly watch this video Islam condemns terrorism -ruclips.net/video/sgjHhtcj8pI/видео.html
13 Dr bruh we know. Show this video to ISIS
100%
He is an extremist.
This is what happens when you constantly criticize your adopted society in an effort to strengthen their faith. You create an unbridgeable chasm and they end up hating their adopted society.
Or when the adopted society routinely spews ignorant hatred at them due to xenophobic ideas that cause them to feel like outcasts.
@@Zarastro54 I believe it's both to blame, it bothers me how many Muslims in the UK are not assimilating and are building their own societies with their own radical traditions that has no place in the west or even in Islam itself. I also find them picking things from the religion that no longer has place in this world instead of trying to adapt and see a way to it. And I blame this on the Islamic scholars today that are not relooking at Islam and interpreting the religion and having it coside the morals/ethics of today's world
@Pingu Thing Yeah, whataboutisms is probably the dumbest fallacy you could bring up in this type of argument. The existence of worse conditions in a completely different area does not negate the present injustices of the subject. And you do realize that Muslims are both the largest number of victims of and main combatants against extremists right?
yes...you get it.
nailed it..and him.
The real culprit here is the father ... just by looking his face anyone can tell that he let her daughter go to the war zone . Ke knows everything. 😡😡
Judging too much? Seems that you have superpowers to know the father is guilty. I couldn’t be so sure.
Teenagers are so vulnerable to scams and lies. Even grown people can get scammed and make mistakes. Think of the easily impressionable teenagers. It's so important that people educate the young with what's happening in the world
do you want to become a terrorist and help kill and oppress others, live without electricity and without medicine, rarely having contact with your loved ones or do you want to watch tv, have money for what ever you need and live in a nice home.
seems like an easy choice. a choice even a stupid/impressionable teenager can make
@@thisguyrighthere3 that's what the average person would think, but having a barely twenty year old little sister, who is not only extremely impressionable and gullible but have been scammed out of thousands before, I can safely say that she would rather choose to leave the comforts of her home to starve, pinch pennies, live with strangers, all to hang with her "friends" (and also study her art course but she's on the verge of giving up) she also spends way more than she needs to because she sponsors her broke friend, and she's making more and more bad choices like deciding to live out of the hostel which would cost twice more and all so that she can live with her friend, and it's not even for her bf who is overseas. We came from a bankrupted family and she could have studied her course at home but doesn't want to, I understand of wanting to be independent but it's not very independent when you expect your parent to pay thousands for your charity.
She's always been on the dim side but I've only recently found out how much money my mom's been giving her and I'm about to give the biggest lecture in my life on money. Anyway, mind you this is all for friends, can you imagine if it was her bf that was enticing her to travel to where he was and with their religion to boot his brainwashing? She'd probably be gone right now. My parents have never hit us, never been strict about grades with us, and only ask us to help out with housework occasionally, and that's already making my sister feel depressed and suffocating here. Can you just imagine kids from strict families and how willing they would just throw away every comfort they have because of their desire to get away or pursue love? I'm able to sympathize with them. And being able to sympathize with kids is one of the first step to getting them to change their mind of being adamant about leaving for stupid reasons. To them, leaving is the easy choice after "suffering" for almost two decades. They just need to know it's the wrong choice and there are other options.
It starts at home though. Parents don’t raise ignorant children. Seriously you never talked to your kids about life? If those women were really patriotic they would never have left to a country that is at war. Get a grip. Oh have no sympathy no one kidnapped those women they are just women that do not think about the consequences absolutely no critical thinking going on in their brain. It’s not like they lived in a third world country and they don’t look at the news. Parents take some accountability too.
Amira's father was a Anjem Choudary cohort. He is seen on film and in pictures protesting against Britain in that hate filled group. These kids are radicalized in their home. And he is a liar. He probably paid her fare and organized her paperwork. Notice how quick he is to dismiss her and say she is gone.
Evil bastards they are
Probably yes and what would you expect grom a Muslim community here in Londen.
Yes he s dangerous
Makes sense
thats actually very disrespectful for you to assume that just becuase hes protesting against a movie mocking the prophwt that she actually hates her daughter and i believe that its only because hes muslim your making such claims the way you just jumped straight to a conclusion just becuase hes been at a protest says a lot
How did 15 yr olds get a plane ticket?
She definitely had parental permission.....I am sure
it's actually not that hard online or to get the 17 year old to buy it for you etc.
Exactly I wondered that too
I’m guessing that they were in contact with people that were in Isis and sent them tickets.
She might have been saving her school money or money that her parents gave, as she is a smart girl most likely they trusted her not knowing what she was planning
For anyone new watching this:
Abase is missing as of 2022.
Sultana was killed by a Russian airstrike in 2016.
Begum is currently living in a Syrian refugee camp near her (now detained) husband as of 2022. The status of the child she was pregnant with in 2019 is unknown.
The status of her baby is dead.
Another really sad, fucked up thing. It's all so fuckin sad.
Wll don't really feel sorry for them. They had everything going for them in thier home countries. But chasing after boys to join a terrorist cell wasn't the right move. This shows you kids with Straight A's aren't always the brightest.
All the of her three children have passed away, as with her most recent pregnancy too. This is such an Incredible sad situation, Shamema's being used politically for sure.
@@NoName-mi8bm The key word in your response was "kid". They were children, 15, not of age & so should be dealt with as such. We all make mistakes as teens, bc our brains aren't fully developed. It's interesting that you have no empathy, logic or compassion here for these young women.
The funniest part is that he's protesting in the name of freedom against freedom of art😂😂
The director of that movie was murdered. People, who participated in that movie, had to go under 24 hour security because of death threats.
That’s not funny, that’s sad.
Exactly, he is now acting like dumb innocent, anyone can't be brainwashed overnight, obviously girl must have been exposed to enough extremism in her household itself.
@@dhanrajshetty5161 exactly. These people don't respect the values of democracy.
So true...
Anyone who goes off to join a terrorist organisation should have thier citizenship stripped away.
I feel no empathy or sympathy towards them.
Craig Burris
Not just you. It’s common sense. At least the shithole organisation is done for now
Well.. a lot of them are kids.. 14/15/16.. you're such an idiot in that age. You don't realize..
True anyone who wants to join isis should stay there they chose that life so live with it.
Agreed
True. They made a terrible decision and they have to pay for it, whether anyone feels sorry for them or not. . They knew what a terrorist organisation ISIS were.
They live in a small flat and they didn't know she was missing till they saw the news on TV. Dose not make sense,
According to them They didnt know where she was. They got to know from tv. But They knew she was missing...
I know right. Didn't they report her missing to authorities after 24 hours of her not coming home? They wait until she's seen on TV in Syria to learn she flew to Syria to join IS. Smh.
Salma Amer extremist fathers kill their daughters regularly for honor.... what do you mean a father wouldn't do that ?
@@salmaamer9778 Children are born innocent until they are taught at home to see others from a different faith as NIJIS (Filthy to the core in Arabic), hence worthy of rejection. This alone speaks volumes about the faith & burdens a child's emotional stability when it come to interacting with others with love, sincerity and acceptance. It is a burden because as the child grows up, he/she will be in a daily battle between their God given conscience & their duty to what their religion expects from them. I am sure you know what I am talking about and may have experienced it yourself. The jihadists have their conscience totally switched off as with these girls as a duty to their god.
With respect, young teenage girls are out of their homes a lot at school, coffee houses, their friends homes?
The dad is guilty. Very sure he helped set up the whole thing or at the very least supported and still supports his daughter. After all, he did say talking about her was like talking about himself. Plus his body language and that little smirk he has a hard time hiding makes it SO obvious he's proud of his little girl.
my dad is Ethiopian and smirks whenever he is mad so i think he did it out of anger
Yeh sad pops
He seems just so defeated to me
He is just oncomfortable and lost
After the seeing the father at a protest and the wife saying "nahh he don't know anything". HELLA SUS
Firstly they teach the child how beautiful Islam is and how strange England is and then they are surprised that she wanted to go to Syria "where the love of Religion is just amazing" . the father was protesting some years ago and now he plays an angel . OMG
The love of Islam is amazing, Syria was NEVER extreme...The fighting now is because terrorist groups came to take Syria and change the ways...Islam is a peaceful religion ISIS is not Islam, the other extreme groups(ISIS isn't the only sect) are not Islam. Most traveled foreign TO SYRIA, why do you think the war is happening? Syrian people are fighting to prevent their peaceful ways from being radicalized, Muslims do NOT agree with ISIS or terror groups it goes against Islam. I think the west needs better educated, search, research don't just watch TV.
I agree with every word you said , but not with “OMG”.
Funny, islam is love? Have you ever heard of a radical christian? All religion is stupid, and simple minded people only believe in religion because they are scared to die and can't accept the finality of death. However if there is a god, I hope it's not Allah. I'd rather live with satan than live in his kingdom.
Mintistic how about you leave Islam alone and worry about your priests molesting and raping little boys.
Truth hurts sweety. Make sure you got that veil on!
I have zero sympathy for these girls !!
same it’s their problem
You are being totally insensitive and stupid. What did you know about the world or humans when you was 15 or 16? This one question alone proves your insensitivity and stupidity.
@@lailahernandez1659 : Did you know about the world or humans when you was only 15 or 16?
The - T yes I did I wasn’t dumb they are just stupid
The - T T At 16, being stupid means skipping school and going for a movie! Not join a murderous cult of psychopaths and breed with them! Are you crazy ?!
That man knows more! The poor lady is genuinely upset . But the man is pretend upset. His eyes say it. Lol
he even said, children are a piece of you
hes not pretend upset, men in most cased react to sad and traumatizing things differently. They deal with it in silence, and just want to push it away and “let it go” instead of confronting and expressing their emotions through sadness and tears. Its obvious this father truly loves and misses his daughter by the way he pushes it away so hard. Daughters are the jewels of a father’s life. This family is obviously grieving and deeply heartbroken, to judge and continuously throw accusations ( with no such evidence ) at them is inhumane. Pos twats.
He’s prob hoping to get a teen wife anyway 😂 you know he’s “religious”
Alright, as stupid as their actions were, imagine being 15 and having your mother next to you 24/7, even being forced to sleep with her. Thats is why she 'fled'.Following some warped and empty promise of 'freedom'. I'm sure all of those parents love their kids lots, but suppressing teenagers backfires eventually.
A very true but grave reality.
Most people in the Eastern part of the world aren't rich enough to afford separate rooms for each child so the family or extended family sleep in the same room or in the open part or their house and sometimes even share the bed.
it's normal in South Asian culture
17:30 - Amira's father on living in England, freely protesting anti-West semantics He says:
"I was amazed at the country I live in, so I can express myself."
"I was happy to have that freedom."
Like him, people WANT this freedom of expression, yet it's people like him who criticize this same freedom of expression of those that shared their views of the prophet muhammed, drew a doodle of him. IRONY. This is what freedom of expression in countries like England provide - the ability to freely express onself on ideas, whether you agree or not. But they go in uproar and behave violently in response. So it's the extremist muslims who are showing the world they are not peaceful, and then quoting from the quran.
Yes but his wife said, he just followed. He didn't know what the rally was about.🙄
The same kind of freedom you are going to get in India as well😂
period
How can you assume he agrees with violent reactions to such things…
you are delusional
Like father, like daughter
the father is a radical at heart and calm on top. if he was younger and more energetic he probably would have left together with their daughter. he pushed religion onto the girl, and probably the girl studied more about her religion and thought this was a worthy cause. thegirl should be prevented from any western country and the father could serve a few years in prison. the mother should probably also be liberated from wearing the cloth around.
I feel for the mother. She has/had such hopes for her I’m sure, such a great student. Her future was bright. How painful for a mother to be separated from her daughter.
The father, seems like he’s hiding something.
Agreed. I feel like he sent her off without the mother’s knowledge
That man literally escaped a war, why would he send his daughter off to a war zone. This is how fathers act when their ashamed or feel they have failed their kids.
He knows he's wrong for asking his daughter be let back to UK. He's not hiding anything he's trying to save his daughter. I don't blame him for that but its not.going to happen she went willingly and participated in illegal terrorist activities.
@@nicobasima9370 he a lil shady but i cant see him as a father put his daughter in that danger, especially since he wanted her back.
Mother was acting more suspicious than the father, the father fought the war while the woman was no where to be seen.. why would he send his daughter there then go meet a specialist to try and get her back, went through court to get her back
When I was 15, I was writing fan fiction of zayn malik and I on wattpad.
🤣 And I was reading them.
Her family puts on a good show. Her father had a major hand in her radicalization. There are clear cut proofs of her father being associated with known terrorists.
Yes.. otherwise how can the father get in n out of the country n seek asylum twice... bullshit
"Dont save her, she don't wana be saved"
Really😂😂lhh
It's not her that don't want to be saved and it's not her that choosed to join the ISIS, it's her demon
May Jesus christ free her
But if J. Cole to lighten the mood hahahaha
seven kings 😂😂😂
seven kings she does wanna leave but if we consider where she is you think she is going to outright say f the Islamic state which she is currently in
Honestly , When the father attended those protests ,may later express it proudly at home that had an impact on his daugther..by the i am Muslim and i am from Afghanistan
Everything is built in house.
I hope you're doing ok with the recent events. My heart is with you and your people ❤️🇨🇦
father seem too calm about this... bet he is involved
Maybe because he's traumatised and doesn't know what to do?
Being calm doesn't mean guilty
Bruh how prejudicing...
@@MalikaMae
maybe or maybe not. We dont know that.
a lot possibilities
They made their beds.. let them lie there.
ελευθερη μεταφραση του "οπως εστρωσες θα κοιμηθεις"
Joining a terrorist organization should be punishable by death sentence due to the fact that they're aiding these terrorists that are killing U.S. soldiers.
Proud American here thanks to those who fight for our freedom.
Slit their throats and chew their clits off their murderous vaggies. Sounds good? I remember making choices at 15 that i regret and would never do today. They are very young and inexperienced to world views. So we should judge them for their choices as young teenagers? You folks are scarier than those teens.
Manuel R - She’s from England, not the US. And I completely disagree. The treatment of these girls should be the exact same treatment that the Allied forces and Nuremberg gave women back in the mid-1940’s who were married to 3rd Reich military men.
Yes, I realize they left their country but they weren’t leaving their country to become terrorists. They weren’t leaving their country because they hated the UK. They were told that they could come check out this amazing place, “an Islamic Disneyland” that was the closest thing to paradise here on earth. They were told if they liked it, they could stay and become a bride of heroic, chivalrous patriot. And they were told they would please God and become so close to him - that this was a test of their commitment and love for him.
These girls were recruited in the same way cults recruit people. But it was also so romanticized. They were groomed in the same way a coach or teacher grooms a 15 year old student.
And, yes, the rhetoric of ISIS is bonkers, but so is the rhetoric of white nationalists. But rhetoric isn’t illegal. Marrying isn’t illegal. If they committed a crime, then they must answer for it. But if they didn’t, they should be de-programmed and brought home.
Some Random Guy yet if it was a white child...
THE PARENTS AREN'T INNOCENT!!!
With respect, the parents are innocent-they're griefstricken but express themselves in accordance with their culture!
I agree. The seed of radical Islamic terrorism is definitely sown by her near and dear ones.
dad was a jihadist
deport her family aswell
Your right they worship Allah meaning they are the reason the girls turned jihadi
I used to take language classes with this family from Irak and one of the young girls told me she have a fiancé since she was 8. Her parents choose the right man from family friend. I was like okay. But then inside me I was like omg imagine not falling in love with the person you want but instead with some random guy you parents chosen for you. Also I was like if I was you I would live like a western since you live in Norway and in here the laws will protect you.
Its true even their prophet had sex with 6 year old child bride.
She died. Out of the four girls, only Begum survived.
As Christine man I have nothing against Muslim but after watching him protesting it shows he is a radical and that's what his daughter become it's the way he raised her
Josief Sisay ISIS brain washed her imagine a straight A student suddenly goes with a group which kills people. Christian is spelled like this. I am Muslim and killing is an unforgivable sin and a person who kills someone for any reason other then for self defense would be killed.
I agree, I'm also a Muslim too. And, in muslim households, these things are very common.
He was just being a good muslim .
@@moforachuwajiesq2348 Was a that a Sarcasm ????
Kuchi Kopi you are full of hate! HOW CAN YOU MAKE SUCH A RIDICULOUS STATEMENT! We do NOT hate non-Muslims. You have had some bad experience with some horrible Muslims. We Muslims do not believe in that that’s why we have very close friends as non-Muslims.
My dad saved a non-Muslim guy’s life, and my neighbour was a white woman, after she died her son came to visit my parents to say thank you for looking after our mother, she told us you helped her out a lot. 95% of us Muslims just want to live our lives and do everything we can to be successful. We as Muslims value every human life.
These ISIS nutters are created from the ruins of your ILLEGAL WAR on Iraq and Libya. If West didn’t bombard those countries night after night and leave it in ruins, these ISIS leaders wouldn’t have rooted from the prisons of Iraq. ISIS would not have existed under Sadam Hussein or Gadaffi. These war torn countries would not have so many deluded, mental ISIS leaders.
By the way check the stats on how many have died from gun shooting and other hooligans attacks recently. West just likes to avoid calling them “terrorists”, apparently they have mental problems so they can be ignored.
The father is the real culprit. He is playing the game perfectly.
Agreed
One thing for sure that he is a good actor.
What makes you think that ?
@@ericluk68
I don’t think the father is an actor. I think he is fully ignorant and does not realize that he is the primary reason why this has happened ... he is the enabler.
@@nt8894 Lachlan Grace The father is cunning and dodgy, seeing him how he ingeniously played on the words fantasy and fanatic at 18:00 to fend off the journalist’s implying him as a radical for joining the extremist religious rally. He is not an ignorant refugee from Africa as some people think.
BTW, the whole west is too unsuspecting in dealing with the religious extremists' terrorism war of the past and the ongoing indefinite war inflicted by the communist China on them.
I remember those golden lines from a Military Gernal...
"WAR IS VERY FASCINATING FOR THOSE, WHOSE NEVER EXPERIENCED IT'S CRUALITY IN REAL LIFE"
not groomed , THEY CHOSE
If her father had to claim asylum in Germany, then why was he able to return to Ethiopia? These are economic migrants, not asylum candidates
Monsieur P. And they disguise it as asylum, taking full advantage of a broken system and laughing in our faces as they do it.
Don’t be so sure about what you think is happening in African countries. A lot of people will tell you my country is safe yet a lot of people including my own are either murdered or arrested for just giving their opinions about the government.
This will keep happening till the muslims support or not questions their own community...for their wrong doing...
Islam condemns terrorism -ruclips.net/video/sgjHhtcj8pI/видео.html
@@13dr9 It does. But those who call themselves muslims are sending the wrong message.
That dad seems pleased she went! I recon he knows a lot more!
Exactly!! He should have to leave too!! It seems they are practicing what they call "taqiyya" an Islam act which permits the Muslims to lie to non-Muslims to further their Islamic agenda.
He probably paid for her ticket, how else would she afford it.
With respect, one must take care not to project one's own feelings onto the father in the circumstances.!
Rosanna Miller omg you’re so stupid. Taqiyya is practised by SHIA Muslims everyday and is seen as an obligation not SUNNI Muslims.
Howzer The man isis could have sent her money u never know
I think her parents are also responsible for this situation...
These girls weren’t kidnapped. They made a bad choice. Unfortunately for them choices have consequences. By traveling to Syria to support ISIS in any form, is traveling to support the enemy of the nation your from. They probably thought ISIS was going to win. Unfortunately for them they bet on the wrong horse. Now they have to live with that choice. I have no sympathy
Exactly!
I think that father knows more then what he is saying ....
Gerald Williams you banged it straight on the dart
Not at all! Trust me I’m African too and this is exactly how my dad would act in a crisis. Africans experience so much hardships in their life that they have an extreme amount of patience and faith.
M J I just did and found nothing of the sort. The only thing I found was that he went to so called “extremist/radical” rallies which after digging turned out to be held against the treatment of Ethiopians in Saudi Arabia after the had human rights violation. I don’t see how that is radical or extremist. Also I did not find any article saying he was arrested or suspected of anything. All the articles are just stating that he went to extremist and radical rallies.
Yeah, I’ve said it from the start. Especially after seeing his protests.
At 15 my parents still hold my passport until I am 21.
The extremists got her new fake passport but Shamima stole her 19 years old sister's passport and used it to flee the UK they looked alike and the migration officers at the airport didn't notice that she's 15 not 19...
Regarding passports my prisoner (my father) kept my passport hidden until I was 24 when God mighty send prostate cancer to end his life and I got my freedom from his prison
Kindly watch this video Islam condemns terrorism -ruclips.net/video/sgjHhtcj8pI/видео.html
I don't have one lol
I dont even have it
@@abubakralbaghdadi6649 high five
I have a feeling her parents were way to strict and the only way for her to feel free was the person she was talking
18:22 If you're following people doing a demonstration, you're part of that demonstration. If you are against it, you go against it. If you don't have anything to do with it, you're not there. It's not that hard.
14:45 Dad attends extremist rallies, daughter takes it to heart. Who knows what kind of conversations took place at home? He was probably the one who "radicalized" her.
@@iveyxvr49 typical white racist
@@kitkato12qaj15 yet the girl joined isis
Take a Bible from a Christian and throw it on the floor. He will be mad that you are messing up hip property that he bought with hard-earned money. But he won't ever say you are insulting his religion or prophet. A Muslim though will take such acts as an insult to the religion and the prophet. He may be willing to even kill you for it if it comes to it. That's what's wrong with Islam.
This father took part in a protest against a supposed insult against his religion. All Muslims do that, both moderate and fanatic. I have Muslim friends and I been friends with them since childhood. I know how they feel about their book and religious symbols
Yes. Considering Islamic culture and Dad is a moderate Muslim they would have honored Islamic traditions and the father would have to agree to the marriage. That is part of the religion .
Kitkato12q AJ No he’s not. He’s just being honest. And it’s the truth. If you want to be a good Muslim just stay in your country or move to Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦. Why come to England and try change their culture to the same one you ran away from.
Bro, the thumbnail makes it look like the girl's MOM ran away to Syria.
Yeah, but she didn't even try to run for her daughter. No real caring, loving mother would leave her daughter alone with the terrorists - except, obviously, when the mother is actually PROUD of such "heroic" deed of martyrdom. And that's why the mom didn't go as you thought.
😂🤣😂true
England isn't English anymore, Alfred the Great would be so disappointed to see all his hard work gone to waste
@@ronlionheart1646 lol maybe England shouldn’t have robbed every country in the world of its riches then dickhead
@@battyboifided6629 uh I am from a former colony of UK and I will tell you something stop playing victim card.... colonialism is not a modern thing every country which had power has colonised another country... so stop crying about the past
For sure dad unwittingly encouraged his daughter to fight for Islam. No sympathy here!
Why is the dad smiling..... If I had a kid and they did this I would be balling my eyes out
People deal with stress differently. Some lay dormant, some do drugs, some ( as you mention ) cry or some can't take it then proceed to do the deed of ceasing to exist. We can not expect everyone to deal with stress in the same way .
I'm sure they are out of tears.
Don't tell kids anything about religion till they are 18 and see how many believe then.
ok then let also dont tell your kid how to take care of themselve and do not give hem education let see if they can survive in this world. wait lets just dumb them
You are 100% right. But unfortunately I haven't seen one single country enforcing a law like this
Well then you deprive religion of its greatest indoctrinating tool
Same here
how about not at all?
he fled etiopia and got asylum in germany, but could go back to get married??? excuse me, why does he need asylum then?
@@ogolow570 there isn't civil war at the time when he fled, high IQ
@@teddfact how do you know when he fled ?
😜 just what i was thinking...got there to marry a promised girl. great example for a daughter
@@teddfact The Ethiopian Civil war lasted from 1975 to 1991 so clearly there was a civil war going when he fled dumbass.
Yes, that is my question as well. The story just doesn't add up. You flee a dictatorial regime fearing for your life at 16: How do you even meet her as you are in Germany? How do you go back and get her out of the country when you risk danger for your life?
I had to read the title 3 times as I couldn't believe that someone can actually flee TO Syria. Most people want to flee FROM that hell. So sad that they were so brainwashed. Now when they realized what they put themselves into is too late :(
One of them was killed in an airstrike, she would've never expected this in her wildest dreams. Just feel bad for their parents all their efforts and hardwork they put into her since her childhood and this is what she repays them with, straight A grades with such a dumb choice.
The one on the right is now in the news again... pregnant and want to come home
That’s why I’m here watching this video 😂
She had a boy
@@FA-or5ey oh yea... I saw that today.
Links?
The Kamal Kartik what links
the girl revises all day and sleeps with her mother, no privacy. im really not surprised they ran away, they probably saw themselves as being free if they left
Yes, I agree. They ran away for what they perceived as freedom and to be apart of something bigger. Kids always seek out what is missing in their current lives.
Exactly what I was thinking
With respect, the romance, the licit marital sex, the comfort of being loved and adored in a war zone?
With respect, the lack of personal freedom, the restrictions of their religion, the role playing expected and the longing for romance and marriage with a young freedom fighter and the danger lures them into the web in Syria!
Diana Mincher yes exactly that.
A child below 18 are not allowed to leave country alone.. What kind if security check was their on airport 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Probably flawlessly convincing fake documents plus they may have enough organised networks & resources in other modes of transport as well
9:18, Wait a goddamn minute. So you sent letters warning the parents about the girls' connections with Shameena, through the girls themselves? WHY? Why did you think that was the right thing to do? They are 15, not 5 ffs. They can read. WTH man.
The father here is to blame he has been filmed at Islamist rallies in London along with Choudary and his mob chanting death to those who Insult Islam and the Prophet. And now he cries wolf.
Destroyed by their own destroyer !never saw that happening ! Decieved by a liar. No way!
What goes around comes around.
if he really went on a rally with choudary then i get what u saying and agree at least somewhat, unless he too was a victim of brainwashing!
@gelila out of britain.
Some one received money and sent them there
This girl's father goes in a rally where extremists we're spitting hate and he's surprised his daughter is radicalised.
He was there protesting a movie he said himself why he was there and what the rally was originally about. This is as stupid as blaming a parent for a school shooting because they owned a gun that their kids stole without their knowledge
This comments section is saddeningly apathetic.
When you are that young, your mind has not fully developed yet. Your views, personality, character are volatile. You are easily influenced. I know because I was their age 3 years ago. You know too, if you haven't forgotten.
This would've been compounded by what looks like a more secluded lifestyle than normal, reducing diversity of influences. The parents may have given her Islamic "ideals" but why do you think anyone living in London would wish their daughter to move to what was the most oppressive place on Earth? I don't think a Muslim would move away from a culture and region similar to the one they wanted to send their daughter to. Despite the backwardness of the religion in its traditional forms, I am very skeptical that these parents wanted anything but the return of their daughter and the return to a normal life.
So he just followed who were protesting, maybe I could follow someone jumping from a bridge and also claim I didn't know what I was doing
whts protesting ???
There is zero hope for any of them...
The father should be deported to Syria also to go live with his traitorous child.
It doesn't make a difference, the age, or personality... As soon as you stand against my country and/or threaten my way of life - IN ANY WAY... I am against you, and I know the rest of the UK feel this way also.
Anyone who is British and thinks differently has to have serious questions about their sense of well-being and self respect both as an individual and as a nation.
The child died in an airstrike
These parents are too calm. I’m 30 and if had done what the girls did my parents would have lost it, they definitely be crying and weeping daily.
Some parents are strong, not everyone expresses sadness by crying
They are actually proud of their childrens fighting, what they showing here are just drama
Pingu Thing ...crying because your child joined isis isn’t being soft.
Allen Reynolds Do you have kids?
yep..
Note that even in the case of Atta..(his parents claimed his innocence, then said how proud they were of what he had done, depending on what day of the week it was..they even swore he was still alive , and with them the day of 9-11..then having built a shrine memorial to a man they were swearing was still alive..) ..
But, they rarely if ever disown and spurn their terrorist children who have,. you would imagine, shamed the family.
funny that.
There are things for which they WOULD be spurned and disowned, even killed. Marrying an infidel or apostasising would do that.
But these terrible terrorist children about which they had no absolutely knowledge of what was in their heads...
...they are never....... cast out. ?
hmmm..
hes not pretend upset, men in most cased react to sad and traumatizing things differently. They deal with it in silence, and just want to push it away and “let it go” instead of confronting and expressing their emotions through sadness and tears. Its obvious this father truly loves and misses his daughter by the way he pushes it away so hard. Daughters are the jewels of a father’s life. This family is obviously grieving and deeply heartbroken, to judge and continuously throw accusations ( with no such evidence ) at them is inhumane. Pos twats.
You know what's chilling? Shemima Begum radicalised her friends but as I type this message all her friends and the kids they had with Isis fighters are dead but Shemima Begin is still alive actively trying to return to the UK.
I'm 23 and my mom still has my passport in case I lose it...
I feel like the father has something to do with this tbh
You are a grown ass woman your mother shouldn't be holding your passport
@@yourtrappedinmygenjutsu stfu
@@yourtrappedinmygenjutsu If she doesn't travel much, it's okay, it's not like she is a baby...
Hahhaha that's okay. Im 23, don't drive but have a driver's license. I'm scared of losing it so it's with my dad 😂😂😂😂
lol im 36 and still get my family to keep stuff for me in case i loose them, i have the memory of a fish
If this video didn't make me depressed, the comments sure do...
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Why ? because you're some butt hurt libtard who feels sorry for these idiots ?
@Officer Of The Watch
lol what does political beliefs have anything to do with this? Is it not natural to feel sorry as humans for the naive children who have been victimized by ISIS?
DabIMON how come?
Her father's attitude towards Islam is the soil for her radicalisation
When you look at the video with Amira's dad, he was participating in the rally.
That father enjoys the freedom to express himself. But he doesnt want the same freedom to the film maker on Prophet Mohammed.
The banner in Protest says that 'Muslims will Destroy'...
He is a delusional man if that is true.
I am 1000% sure that the girl got the radical ideas from the family first and then others...
This guy is an absolute shame to all Ethiopians I recognized that he was up in the moment I saw him and it was confirmed by a Google search we welcome these people literally when they were fleeing RECORDED IN THEIR STUPID BOOK & to make matters worse, in 2015 scores of Ethiopian migrant refugees were kidnapped in Syria and Libya and we're beheaded on beaches and image I'll never forget and executed on another field she must have thought these are Christian Ethiopians not my people Ethiopians wake the f******how are we going to systematically decrease their influence and population let's wake up
But was he holding it?
I could go into a protest like BLM expecting it to be an expression of what it is Black Lives Matter but it could turn out not what I thought it was and soon rioting or looting happened. This happens. Don't let your bias blind you to reality. I am sorry to say but why would he go into so much trouble to get his child if he believed his child was doing the right thing ?
Such a hypocrite he is!!! He is a snake
The Kerala story is true
A series on netflix called caliphate based on this 😊
ya I have seen it , its amazing
Her father is so laid-back... "whatever will be, will be..."
Not so 'laid back' when he's participating in those extremist protests though is he?
D D You'd think he would pick up on extremist beliefs- but considering this guy was a Muslim activist as well-
I want to give them the benefit of the doubt, but it seems like the Parents did do some damage, even if they didn't intend it to go this far.
Parents seeing their children suddenly disappear is a horrible experience for the parents.
I just read this comment about him; "this is the same guy who dragged his daughter to demonstrations where people had placards demanding the beheading of cartoonists'
@@Noa-hs6qy Better have proof! We need to be careful when we accuse someone of such acts! Too easy to gossip and make unsubstantiated comments!
He protested a movie about the prophet, yes!
I think this is a cultural saying! It is out of his hands, so he is just trying to cope and hope for the best!
It is obvious that both parents are heartbroken!
The father is grateful that he lives in a "great" country that is allowing him the freedom to express himself, yet they are chanting death to america. Wad da fuq
I get this feeling that the mother was abusive in some way. Kids don't just find a reason to take off like that without some reason going on at home.
This is true Islam.
Do not believe their words when they are a minority, observe them where they are the majority.
What you sow, is what you reap.
Her father needs to take responsibility.
He obviously said things in the House !
@Ltown AK nice profile picture dipshit and yes her father is at least 35℅ responsible for her mindset
Kindly watch this video Islam condemns terrorism -ruclips.net/video/sgjHhtcj8pI/видео.html
@@13dr9 Islam does not teach terrorism and the Clip your talking about which I haven’t watched cause it is nonsense was probably created by and islamaphobic little rat like yourself learn about islam and read about it then you will realise what it’s really about . Educate yourself before saying stupid things like that
He had been filmed already,this lovely father had been involved in Islamist protests. Of course he passed his views. How is like father,how is like his daughter.
@@rabiax7441 Sharia does teach terrorism. Kuran has violence in it.
He fled his home country. But then returned to his country that he fled to marry her mother? Huh?
It's cheeper to do that
yah clearly shows he didnt "flee" he just wanted a good life. also he probably wasnt ready to marry a non muslim
He claimed he was a refugee so his country was too dangerous but not so dangerous seeing as he popped back to marry someone, that is what the comment is about
@@thehonesttruth415
There are plenty of Muslim women in Western Europe.
@Diana Artemis how is that? Here in Greece we have a whole lot more than you and they are poor. They live in hotspots or rarely they are given free houses
One astonishing thing was how fast they were married off to another guy once the husband died.They were treated like livestock whose utility is mainly breeding and domestic chores.