Long Term Ownership - A Fisker Ocean One Owner's Perspective
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Thank you, Adam for continuing your discussions with FOO owners. It is always soothing to hear Overkill Bill's honest comments and very helpful! 🤓 I had the same infotainment glitching on the main screen while driving - flickering, blanking out. I did a soft reset while driving and it cleared... for now... this concerns me also... but happy the soft reset worked while driving. The unknown is always worrisome but like Overkill Bill, I am keeping mine for now. I am a first EV owner and I love the drive but the glitches are annoying and hoping we do not have to live with these glitches forever.... anxiety and tolerance level is key. One needs to choose what works for their individual situation. People like to label things as right and wrong, it should be whatever works for individual situations. Everyone is unique. We adapt. Thank you so much for the honest discussion! I will continue to watch your very informative videos! 😎
Can’t thank you enough for the support and the kind words! Bill is a treasure, and has a wealth of knowledge and experience. I appreciate you.
Please stay on Fisker! We need you. We've gotten so much good information from you. Also, the tip about contacting the California Attorney General is great. One thing that keeps me worried is not having an extra key fob. A Fisker tech told us that they are supposedly working on the NFC card, but he couldn't tell us when they would be released. Big fears about losing or damaging the key fob and no longer having the ability to drive the Ocean. Great perspective from your guest... and continued great information from you. Also, watched your video with your wife driving the new Honda Prologue. We saw a Chevy EV Blazer about a week ago. Interesting. Appreciated your comments about Chevy and Honda.
Thank you so much for watching and sharing your insights!
You are our 'One Stop Shop' for up to date, honest and accurate information - Don't even think about abandoning us..
Your'e name's not Henrik is it!!
Not going anywhere! I appreciate this!
I think if you bought a FOE at $37.5K or less and never owned the FSRN stock, your perspective with the vehicle is totally different than the folks that paid full price and got killed on the stock. Love the vehicle at $37.5K and have less issues with it than when I first got my Model Y.
How many days have you owned it?
@@Aslash304 over a month and 1K miles. It’s been amazing.
OF COURSE YOU SHOULD KEEP MAKING VIDEOS, ADAM! But only if you want to. I think we all appreciate your perspective, especially now going forward from Fisker.
Thank you so much for the kind words! I’ll keep ‘coming.
Thanks you for doing this. Just like you said you doing long time without car. I hope you continue doing this for long time.
As long as there is news to report, I’ll be on it! Thanks for watching!
Adam best of luck with the Prologue. Nice looking EV. And yes, please continue Fisker content.
I definitely will
Enjoying the new Mic and camera BTW…. Nice improvement
Much appreciated!
Hahaha Adam I love that joke. You have such a great personality man keep up the great content. Enjoy your new Honda.
A sincere thanks to you for the kind words! I appreciate you watching very much!
Two things in the news yesterday, the 1st announcing another large round of firing with one exited employee saying he believes Fisker is down to only about 150 employees, the 2nd a short video circulating yesterday of an enormous parking lot adjacent to the Port of San Diego that's gradually becoming filled with hundreds of Ocean's (presumably 2024 inventory.)
Thanks for sharing!
I had a tech come to my home this past week to fix a couple of things including a broken California mode and sunroof as well as a 12-volt battery problem, event problem and incomplete 2.0 update. As far as I understand from the tech, there may be a 2.1 or a 3.0 update that could come out, but I'm skeptical. The 3.0 update would have to be handled by a tech and that tech would be required to go to each ocean and set it up which would require a total of 8 hours. This 3.0 would be of great benefit according to the tech and the indications of how clean it would make the vehicle in terms of software performance thing. So I am of the semi-optimistic or cautiously optimistic point of view, but it does seem like a bit of a crap shoot. I hope that Fisker us to be able to get to the point where we can get this 3.0 update. I would like to congratulate Adam on his new Honda prologue. I unfortunately will be staying with my Fisker at this point. However, I am looking into other avenues.
Thanks so much for sharing this. I have also heard that 3.0 is too big for OTA
Who's to say that your experience won't be someone's future experience. Keep talking my friend...
Big thank you to Bill as well!!!
Thanks for the feedback!
I ultimately did not buy, lost a $2k deposit but SO BE IT. Many many reasons. I saw door handles that have deteriorated, solar sky roofs that cracked, windshield which can't be replaced, 12v failures that - worst case immobile, best case need a tech to recalibrate the doggie windows (IF you can get a tech). I tried, out of curiosity to call the service phone number. Was on hold 56 mins and got disconnected, tried again and on hold for 1hr 6min and I hung up. Warranty in question, part on back order with no in stock date, roadside assistance cancelled and zero, absolute zero communication from ANYONE except to toot their own horn for opening of dealer networks. The firesale Oceans money should be going to support the existing customers NOT lining the note holders pockets. This is greed, disrespect, and insult to the owners. Never EVER seen a company like this and I never plan to ever again. I hope someone gets jail time.
Thanks for your feedback
Don’t worry, Henrik Fisker’s new company should be up and running soon. Third time’s a charm!
@@heartoftherobot sarcasm?
@@DaveDarin I certainly am hoping so! 🤣😂
It’s not only the Ocean that suffers from the “Charge port open” warnings - my 2021 Mini Cooper S E (and many many other owners in Europe) get that message too but it gets fixed under warranty here. I was going to replace my Cooper S E with an Ocean in March/April but Adam’s warnings about the company’s precarious financials made me rake a step back to wait and see what happened. I had two test drives and loved the car, especially the ride on 22” wheels as I am used to owning air suspended Range and Land Rover cars for the last 30 years. If you are still keen on an Ocean sized car that is as well assembled and rides as well I would highly recommend that when (if) the NEW Mini Counttyman S E comes to the USA you go for a test drive. I have one of the first new Countryman EVs delivered in the U.K. and it’s not a small car at all - in fact it’s 11cm longer than my 2023 Land Rover Defender 90. It rides beautifully, is AWD all the time , it’s 65kWh battery is enough for 220 miles range at highway speed and it’s really well put together by BMW at their factory in Leipzig. I’m making my first ever EV road trip this weekend in it - 450 miles round trip.
Good luck on your trip! Super excited for you, and thank you so much for watching!
I would try find a technician who has the skills, look into fuse box if there is one, and perhaps disengage sensor. On my bolt ev, I resolved this by plucking out one particular fuse because of annoying ev sound it generates
It should be against the law to call the BMW Mini a mini, as it clearly isn't a mini 😂 trade description laws.
I couldnt resist converting my Ocean One order, especially with 5.25K applied to the new price and 7.5K tax credit. Lets see how for it goes! California mode was the other dealmaker!
it will be useless when connectivity goes away.
@@Tacocat123 not true, if you can drive today it in areas where there is no connectivity, and you can, it will continue to work if the Fisker servers go away.
I hope you have a good experience
@@vikasd.7139 how will you use Disney or any of the video apps with no connectivity?
I kinda feel the same as a FOO owner. We have another vehicle and don't drive either that much and the car is garage kept. We also have a 2015 Subaru (funny) but like most owners, feel disappointed and irritated in the company. We will have to move out of the country in the fall and are considering selling it.
I wish you the best of luck with everything! Thanks for tuning in!
Warning about only using the Ocean occasionally, you need to keep the 12V battery charged, and it appears that is not happening when the Ocean is asleep. All sorts of issues occur when your 12V is low voltage. I've had mine replaced twice already
This is a great point. The ocean needs a 1-5 mile drive once every 3 days or so. That, and the charging to get it back to daily percentage seems to keep the 12v happy. Great point!
Curious as to why you chose the ultium platform, especially after the initial battery/infotainment issues. Ford's Mach-E does a lot of things great and the build quality is better than most... Three years of ownership so far and the only expenditure has been a set of tires and one visit to the dealer to do a non OTA firmware update.
Ford Sold 40,000 Mach E units in 2023. Honda Sold Zero Prologues. That’s the main reason. It’s a new vehicle
Please don’t stop making Fisker content. You are the best in this area!
Will do!
The Honda is AMAZING! Love it!
Underwater in the FISKER Ocean 🌊 The world's most emotional and sustainable electric ⚡ vehicle * was designed with 50% sale in mind. Charge Customers EXTRA that want it FIRST. $FSRN 0.058 #NOW
No it wasn't. Not with a 113kwh battery.
I FSRN and AITX is next
Yuck
Believe it or not I am still toying with a purchase. I am focusing on an Ocean One. I found one that was traded in and was at $42k. I had no interest at that price. It dropped to $39 and then I was able to talk it down to $35k. But as things tumbled with Fisker I held back. Now we are talking $33,900 but, with the risk involved I am now discussing removing that Dealer Doc Fee. Dealer Doc Fees in California, which I live in Arizona, I believe are limited to $85. I do not know why or how a dealer can convince you that filling out electronic forms to create docs comes in at $699 or more. So, if that $699 is dropped do I go for the Ocean One, which is fully maxed out specs (Big Sur Blue - which I actually am not a fan of. Gorgeous color but requires extra care, and the Sea Salt which also requires extra care being a light color). But anyway, if they eliminate the dealer doc fee I'm still not sure as the risk are many. The windshield, I've heard the door handle inserts have melted with another Arizona owner and it hasn't even hit over 100 degrees here yet, BUT it will. I saw 2 owners with Solar Sky roofs with cracks. I do feel that the note holder is sucking all cash from the Ocean sales where sales of the remaining Oceans, that cash, or part of it, should be spent on the early adopters to support service, warranty, promised perks, roadside assistance. Seems like every penny is going to the note holder. At some point I hope there is an investigation and if there is no financial recovery, I hope the negligence and fraud leads to jail time. What I mean by fraud is that sales contracts included roadside assistance, warranty, etc. This was a contract signed by 2 parties. Fisker is now in breach of these contracts with no countersigned in acceptance of changes. There needs to be accountability and a legal solution which needs to be satisfied.
Tumse Na Ho Payega (transl. You won't be able to do it) May be the Prologue ! Or some toyota PHEV might be better!
Hold your horses just a bit. The price will drop further if BK is filed....which is highly likely and soon. Once the sales of existing Oceans have slowed to a dribble, the Noteholder will drop prices further or send them to an auction house. Either way you will save.
Wholesale battery value + $2k is a good deal, any other speculation is FOMO
@@melvinholland9656 hate this noteholder, total greed.
I have a gorgeous Great White FOO I'll sell you!!😊
If software was the problem. Fisker should buy readymade software from companies like Ecarx because they provide A to Z with Google automotive
My understanding is that Google Automotive can only ever be a layer on a very, complex system. The Volvo CEO has a really good interview with The Verge around this. It helps a lot but the OEM still needs to do a lot to connect all the dots.
Car software isn’t simple. Software has to run on something. If the hardware doesn’t talk to it, there’s no solution
Hi Adam, would there be software support for minimum time period, say 2-3:years? Its crucial if considering buying at deep discount from Fisher directly
There are no answers to this question. But it’s a great question
i lost my deposit too - thank goodness - but i have a really nice $5250 key chain set.
Most certainly works better than the actual key.
I so want to buy an ocean extreme for $35k but man this company isn't coming back.
I own two EVs that have been trouble free. I'm also tempted to jump on a $35K Ocean but that inner voice says don't be a fool. If you drop the FOB and break it, you're done. The lack of parts and support prevent me from pulling the trigger.
Go to mirror. Exclaim “This company isn’t coming back.” Repeat until cognizance is achieved.
So model y was purchased. And besides dealing with horrible customer service, I am very excited. I was supposed to pick up yesterday, then today, now it's tomorrow because it's impossible to talk to someone about my financing to make a deal. I have good but not perfect credit. I want the 1% APR and I don't qualify but if I could just talk to someone about maybe another 5 or 10k on my deposit or even a cosigner, this deal would be done by now.
ok, so Fisker Indianapolis will service Oceans, but at what cost? There’s no warranty service, right?
No idea. I am certainly curious, though
I can appreciate that bill isn’t having a lot of issues now and doesn’t see reason to sell it… but really he should. The future is looking extremely bad to say the least. Eventually no one will want this thing, even worse than the demand now. So why hold on to it? For the memories? The memories of the snake oil salesman who lied to everyone? Get out now while you still can Adam you did the right thing. The Honda will be very reliable. And. You know Honda is there for you
I am extremely happy with the decision
Didn’t you always intend to sell it? This is the model RUclips reviewers normally adopt.
He’ll be taking a huge loss. Better to hold on to it until the wheels go off. Car is solid.
Adam, will you get another Fisker if new management and/or entity takes over Fisker?
Too much uncertainty to speculate. This current car has too many shortcomings in my opinion. I’ll enumerate in a future video.
Adam, would you ever own an Ocean again? If so, what would it take?
When they are the resell wholesale cost of the battery plus $2k, I’ll buy 2. One for parts for the other, and the second to use the battery and motors in a classic car conversion.
Now that a tech got my car issues all addressed last week I really enjoy my FOO. There aren’t many (Lucid?) other EV’s that have the goodies that are in the Ocean(CA mode, 360 mile range, Hollywood Mode, comfortable seating, fit and finish) .for the price (even better with todays prices for Fisker’s). You have discussed the issues we are all experiencing very well. Did I miss a video where you traded in or sold you Fisker? I saw the Honda video but I don’t remember how you got rid of your Fisker.
Is this your first EV? There are so many EV basics the Ocean doesn't have and probably never will. I could list them but you'll probably just roll your eyes. But aren't you a bit concerned that if you drop or somehow break your FOB...you're done. Good luck, hope you enjoy the vehicle for years to come.
I am glad you can appreciate the Ocean. Every experience is individual. I detail some of the selling experience on this video ruclips.net/video/cIQSVzazhnw/видео.htmlsi=EfTbqqIbi0a1qcge and more in this one
ruclips.net/video/HJ-fWSobZ-c/видео.html
@@melvinholland9656 not my first EV. I have plenty of concerns with Fisker at this point. I have never broken any key fob for any car I have ever owned. I have also not wrecked any of my cars. Could I get hit by walking across the street at a crosswalk, yes. But that doesn’t mean I am not going to cross a street at a crosswalk.
@@rmorales1029 the point is there is no backup to the FOB such as PAAK, NFC card. No other EV is so limited. But apparently you’re good with that as you have Hollywood mode and taco trays...wow! If that 12 volt dies, you’re dead. Add no parts , no service, no OTAs, no future connectivity, weak-ass software, no access to SCs ever, no battery preconditioning, 1980 cruise control, poor charging curve and the beat goes on. But it’s a great car. Just load-up on FOB batteries.
@@rmorales1029Bad analogy. Owning a fisker is more like juggling chainsaws than walking across the street in terms of risk. I bet you don't juggle chainsaws.
Adam got out
just to get in a few months later when they are already cheaper.
Fisker have the highest residual value cause the 100 kWh battery is worth at least 20k if you get the canbus adapter right to directly charge those batteries from solar power system - I mean highvoltage. A swedish guy had done that before, as he had powered a tugboat with 4 id 4 batteries.
And every Fisker One will save a lot of others due to the value of the spare parts - even all the glas / screens.
Thanks for the feedback
Delusion or stock pumping?
If you love your ocean and don't want to dump it, and praying for the best in the future, why not buy a second one for 15K, if they get to that used, in case you need parts in case of a wreck.
Or buy the whole company for 15k 😉
@@hairyporter6736 That too :)
😅 @@hairyporter6736nah..now a CODA..Man those are good batteries.
$15k buys a 2022 Nissan leaf loaded with 15,000 miles on it. With a warranty. It’s like buying the dip when the value is at $0.04. Because it’s not a dip. It’s an ending. If you want to lose $15k on something you cant drive, just sell it, and a refinance the remaining negative equity. You’ll owe lots and have nothing, but it’s cheaper than buying a second one.
@@Aslash304 Well said!
Did you see the Tata news?
Send a link
What's the news??
@@eganelesthere’s no news
Good interview Adam. My wife and I are planning to drive our FOU to Utah from CA this summer. Are we crazy??
No, just brave.
Not at all. My Fisker threw itself into park in traffic, and the next day I drove it to Baltimore.
@@Aslash304 Okay. We haven’t had that problem, yet! The two times it dies on the freeway were fixed by a software fix. It has worked fine since then. Wish us luck, I am now more concerned about a broken windshield!
Very sad tgat you ditched your Fisker for a honda. I get it, but just can't take the bath that I'd have to take to get out of my FOO.
100% understandable.
Classic love hate relationship with the car. Feeling burned by the company every day is not helping. Took your advise and trying to sell it but having a hard time getting a dealer to buy it even on a trade for more than 25k
No good answers, loose loose situation.
By the way you didn’t include the ford Mach e in your list of good EV’s
I think better in many ways to the FO
ruclips.net/video/cIQSVzazhnw/видео.htmlsi=FQXa1HwOu6gnIxRg go to 10 Minutes 40 Seconds. I think the Mach-E is an excellent car. Hope this helps.
FSRN AITX
Add them together you’ve got 6 cents
There is an OCEAN ONE for sale at the local Chevy dealer, they are asking 37K, I offered 10K, no go! I am surprised by the Honda, you bought a car and that dealer can't service you, scary, and shady, I would be concerned. Thank you for the content and information.
Excellent feedback and points! I’m on it for the consumer advocacy. Let’s give her a spin and see.
Wow so much of this is STUPID. CODA mate.
What trim is your Ocean?