2022 Honda CRF300L Rally Full Test (ADV/LITE Part 1)
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
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The Honda CRF300L Rally has been making waves as a popular, hard to get lightweight adventure motorcycle. But what are the realistic pros and cons? Let's fully test it to find out. This is part 1 of a 4 part series where we explore the capability of the CRF300L Rally. Part 2 will discuss the modifications and upgrades within a budget of just $1500 including suspension and full luggage. Part 3 will showcase the modifications and how they work, and part 4 will be a 3-4 day camping off-road adventure trip to see if this bike is truly ADV worthy.
00:00 Intro
01:46 Riding Position
02:38 Drop/Lift
03:52 Specs/Tour
08:47 Highway Test
15:36 Acceleration Test
16:50 Off Road Test
21:15 Pros and Cons
23:54 Final Thoughts
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Thank you for keeping the drop in!
Please test the AJP PR7
A new sub here. Being a new rider with a height of 6ft4 and 210 lbs ive been researching which duel sport would be better suited for me without having to do a bunch of mods right off the bat, being on a budget has its limits, id be doing most of my riding off the pavement and have the choices narrowed down to three, the DR650, the DRZ400 and the 300 Rally. What would you recommend? there is so many choices to choose from and I keep flipping back and fourth, Thanks
I subbed just because you didnt edit the drop out.....I admire that
You always keep it real. Obviously you could have edited the drop out, a lot of RUclipsrs would have. Real and honest. That's why I keep coming back. Great job.
I mean, he said it's a drop test... :D
I"m pretty sure I've seen him do that before, it's a great chuckle and a real life test.
There's a better way to pick up a bike than the technique shown even if the bike was in gear.
Honda is like....Umm, how long will he have it for?
@@lostwithasmile485 😂
I'm so glad you left the whole lift test in. You're just like the rest of us.
The lift test was hilarious ;-)
BRM good review. Appreciate the fact that you left the 'double drop" in and didn't edit it out. We have all goofed up like that sometime and actually it really demonstrates the bike is not fragile.
I appreciate the extra effort you put in to demonstrate the Drop & Lift test from both sides. Very thorough!
As an owner of a 300L this is a fair and good review . As someone that has been riding for 53 years ,I would say the best part of the bike is the transmission . It is so smooth. worst part on the strait L for me is the small gas tank, I only get 165 kilometers before the light is flashing . I will be following your suspension upgrades because I want to do it as well. I put the TUSK side racks on my bike and they work well . Thanks
Good info thanks
Totally agree. That transmission is bang on. I really wish someone would come out with a tank for the L, it would really make this bike a great light adventure bike.
First thing I bought was a Rotopax 1.75(US) gallon tank. I ran the tank bone dry and this refilled it right back up to the bars!
For$100(+-) I leave it on the bike all the time!
Yes, there are others and one that fits where the tool box is but that’s @$500…and smaller capacity.
How about the seats though? Can you do 2-3 hours ride with it without feeling any pain?
@@alesterpadua7884 I think that one is a subjective decision. Personally, I absolutely could. I don't find the seat to be too uncomfortable. I have definitely had worse!
Honda we want a 450L rally with long maintenance intervals. Make it happen!
And good suspension out of the box)
Definitely
You may want that but not everyone needs that. The bigger the engine the heavier and more expensive the bike gets & bigger petrol tank needed (added weight) for the range required for adventures. For female or light riders who need a lighter bike this bike is brilliant. Just wish they would bring them to South Africa.
Honda don't even listen Marc Marquez so not much chance they will listen to any of us.
@@tdunster2011 well they will just miss out on sales. Their problem in the end.
Great test, I have been looking to add this to bikes for a while. Thank you for leaving the drop test in, great to see even the pros drop bikes. Looking forward to the upgrades, thank you Ian.
so glad to see you're channel grow. You make great content. Keep going dude!!!
Love the drop! Just puts you in the real world with the rest of us! Keep up the good work!
I have owned a Rally 250 and 300 and I have almost 10K miles on my 300 Rally now and have ridden a variety of roads, trails, and the IDBDR on it. The suspension is all that you need to fix. Put high quality Rally Raid shock and fork upgrade on it, a GL Coyote on the back and it is good to go. Don't waste money on little stuff like handlebars, handguards, footpegs etc. Upgrade that stuff if you break it. If you fix the suspension and put some super light luggage on it, it is a great ADV lite bike that can do a lot of things very well. Just avoid the Freeways on it, everything else is good. With your proposed upgrade budget of $1500 I would spend it all on quality suspension first and then you will see what a great bike the rest of it is. Don't go cheap on suspension upgrades as that is the only real problem that this bike has from stock form. Don't add any weight to it.. it has just enough power as is. It doesn't need any side racks, heavy skid plates, etc. It has incredible ground clearance and the stock skid plate will take casual hits and glancing blows just fine.
Thanks for leaving the drop test gone wrong in the final edit: I got a laugh from that and appreciate that you also mentioned putting it in gear before picking it up is the right way. Looking forward to the rest of the Rally series.
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These are the most complete reviews on youtube. Great job Ian. KEEP IT UP!
You actually showed us what it’s like to lift it up from a drop on either side. Very realistic demonstration. Thank you!
I’ve owned the Rally for 6 months now it’s a great all around bike even in stock form, although as mentioned on every review of this bike suspension is a problem for larger folks and cargo, I’m 5’10” 175lbs and take shorter trips with no cargo (other than small backpack) it’s not a problem for myself, Thanks for the review, I can’t wait to see future videos of this bike and it’s transformation
Great beginning! As mentioned, I'm glad you left the unintentional drop in the video...it shows that even the most experienced riders still make mistakes! As also mentioned, Noraly (Itchy Boots on RUclips) has really put her 300L Rally to the test (and she did upgrade handguards, suspension, exhaust, etc.). IMHO, I think the suspension has too much squat and is too soft (a common stock Honda malady). As someone that grew up riding an '82 Honda XL250 (I bought new), this hits a very sweet spot with the weight, size, and large fuel tank. Looking forward to your future adventures on this one!
Really looking forward to this long term review and the upgrades. Thanks!
Oh shit! This is my most anticipated series of yours!
Got my Rally 3 weeks ago in New Zealand mainly for the fuel economy as a second vehicle / shopping cart. I changed to a 15T drive sprocket for lower RPM on the highway with extra power coming from a 550 Performance ECU and a Yoshimura full exhaust, the ECU helps with the jerky on off throttle response, crash bars and fixed the rear suspension so far with a Rally Raid system. Ventura rack with their quick to fit luggage.
What is your top speed with your mods now?
@@ggs0605 i have a 550 tune with full yosh stock gearing my top speed is 86-90mph. With his sprocket setup I imagine you can hit 95-100, but highway speeds will keep the bike in much lower RPMs which is the annoying part of freeway riding, not the lack of top speed
@@ggs0605 I'm too frightened to go there ATM as that rear tire makes it all feel a bit like a greasy weasel / loose goose at speed until I get around to changing the tires. I am 95% road focused with this bike so I could make it look bizarre by doing the super-moto thing. I can only imagine it is close to 100mph. Yeah the sprocket change of one tooth is a tad under 7% change but I do notice that previously I could start from a standstill in 2nd gear if I wanted to so this change gives longer legs for my intended use, of course it would be no good without the extra power to make up for the torque loss.
Hi Allan,
Sounds like you have addressed the big issues regarding this bike. Would it be possible to get a costing on the upgrades? Thankyou!
You can change at what RPM the shift light comes on and also the look of the Tach by holding "SEL" button and turning on key. Use the SET button to toggle through the options. I love my Rally and have a lot of mods including YSS suspension, skid plate, bars, handguards, Outback Motortek crash bars, ECU reflash, seat concepts, pegs, tires, etc. Now that I have customized the bike for my weight and riding style, I feel I have me a unicorn.
👍what is the freeway top speed?
@@congonguns7125 mine goes 81mph topped out in stock form.
@@airadaimagery692 Thank you!
Still rolling with the stock pipe?
Very happy to see this! Congrats on the demo, looking forward to the series.
The suspension was driving me nuts so I did a cheaper upgrade that's improved it for me. YSS spring upgrade in the front (for my weight of 85kg,) and replaced the rear shock with a YSS MZ456. Parts were ~$800 AUD. Made a big difference for the $$.
This is your best video ever... Thanks for leaving the drop in! You are now way more relatable🤣
Respect for not editing out the fall. That speaks testaments of your honesty.
My 300 Rally is coming this week. Pretty excited and have plans to upgrade the suspension straight away.
Glad you mentioned Noraly @ Itchy Boots! She has put this bike through its paces and gives a great idea of what it can handle. Nice to see what it looks like stock and considerations for improved riding.
My Rally showed better acceleration after about 2.000 miles noticably. I would never tune the engine, not even the exhaust. I´ve owned a lot of bikes over the years, this one brings most fun of them all. It´s not all about speed alone. Nice review!
Good overview - i put a higher bar, and race tech suspension on mine. I weight the same as you..... This made a huge difference.
Big Rock Moto, you had me as a subscriber the moment the test of lifting up happened. Love your real world review. Less talking and more doing. big like.
Love the honesty in your channel! Only you would show what happens when dealing with a motorcycle! Keep up the good work!
Quick visit because I missed this and saw your part2 came out.
Good on you for keeping it real.
just commenting to say kudos for leaving the drop test mishap in the final edit :) enjoy your videos Ian.
The beginning bike pick-up was epic! Love your sense of humor, my dude.
It's very impressive that you don't cut the bloopers like the Bike lift/drop.
Much respect for you for showing what the real world is like. :-)
When you dropped the bike and kept it in the vid I hit subscribe. Top marks for authenticity.
I just bought my Rally last week. It’s my first bike. I can’t wait to ride it!
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This is the one I’ve been waiting for!
I've been seriously eyeballin' this bike for a while so am eager to see later tests and upgrades.
3:00 Wait for it! 😁😆
Good recover brother. 😉
Looking forward to the rest of the videos. 😃
Great review of the bike. I've only been riding since spring and this is my starter bike. Its been a perfect starting point for me while I develop my skills (I'm 90% off road). I look forward to your review of it for adventure riding. Hopefully I will be ready by next season to take that next step.
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Dirt bike magazine doesn't get as real and thorough as this. A+ again. Thanks.
I like the fact you kept the mishap in the video…good on you. Need an xr650l comparison!
I have about 2500 miles on my Rally. Took it on the White Rim trail at Moab earlier this year. Even in stock form it was a blast. I have just added exhaust and a tune, suspension is next. Great video. 👍
I just bought a 2023 rally CRF 300, I’m 65 and I love this bike
58, on year 3 with my 250 rally...also love it , I barely use my car in the summers.
I replayed that drop more times than I should have but thank you for that joy ahahhaha keeping it real.
Your candor sets you apart.
Thanks again for the heads up for Barkbusters for my ATAS.
Huger respect for you leaving the drop in. Looking forward to the rest of the Itchy Boots bike review.
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This should be a great series of videos; I'm looking forward to it! I would also find it very interesting if you would consider adding one more chapter (Part 5) to your current plans: Update to a stage 1 550 ECU along with a new exhaust so we can see how that affects highway performance and throttle smoothness, etc. Because of its light weight and off-road capabilities, I think this bike could practically be in it's own very worthy ADV category if it just had a little more HP and torque. And it's priced low enough that one could do significant updates and still spend less money than with most of the alternatives.
I am doubting he will do this as it is a loaner from Honda... unfortunately. The 550 ECU with exhaust really woke up my 300 Rally.
Much respect for NOT editing the unplanned drop test to the right side; I dub thee "Sir Honest Ian". Salute!
Thanks for keeping it real as always, very enjoyable!
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I subscribed purely because you dropped the bike and didn't edit it out, your an honest guy !
Good review and good sense of humor Ian. Yes, you are not Noraly, but still cute:) You did get me laughing at the innocent drop in your driveway demonstrating how to lift the bike. We have all done something like that. Keep up the great work. Dave
awesome review! I'm seriously considering pre-order one for next season. Looking forwards to seeing your build on it!
Awesome review. Thank you.
Appreciate your unbiased review. Look forward to more of your videos. Thanks for posting!
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Yep. The crf300l's suspension is there so you can ride it to your local suspension shop and get a real shock.
It's the bike I want to buy and modify.
Same. Seems like the perfect base to me.
KLX ;p
KLX300 done
Thanks for doing this. Your reviews are very good. Somewhere along the way I would be interested in a comparison to the KTM 390 Adventure. Arguably the foremost competitor to this bike.
Ian---nice drop! We've all been there, done that. In my dreams, I wish I could buy the CRF300L--it is a very sweet ride. Honda engineers did an amazing job to produce such a ride for the price point. Honda has excellent after-purchase parts suppliers. Everyone can mod their Honda the way they see fit.
I'm 6'4" 250 lbs and am rebuilding my XR650L's engine now. Top end job---valves and new piston. Fun work. I hope you get to show how EASY it is to service and maintain any Honda. Such as dipstick check, grease zerks, Changing of the oil filter. Buying a magnetic drain plug. Air filter maintenance. How and when to change a sparkplug. On Honda's, very easy to service--- a tip of the cap to Honda's engineers. Currently I own 4 Hondas. My fave Honda is my 2009 fuel injected 125cc Honda Wave i. I get about 135 miles per gal or 61 kmpl. Bike is in storage in Thailand along with my sweet Kawasaki KLX DTrackerX 250 cc. With 17" Dunlop motard tyre. FUN STUFF. Great brakes, suspension and engine. Bikes are fun!
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Looking forward to seeing the mods - great to see a realistic budget and a bike that lots of people can afford! Top video!
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I am coming up on 4,000 miles since I rolled it off the showroom floor in late May 2022. Its quickly becoming my favorite bike and I have ridden it every day since grabbing it, saving a ton in fuel. Adding Rally Raid front and rear totally transformed it.
Their biggest issue seems to be the fact you cant find them.
Running a Pirelli MT21 front and Tusk D-Sport rear. Helps a lot and they are wearing well.
Stock tries are dog caca as well as the stock rear shock, im 260lbs and had it maxed out. Still wallowed a lot.
Typical farkles. Acerbis hand guards. Rear rack. Tail Tidy. Very pleased.
$10 gives me enough fuel to commute all week. worst tank 61mpg. Best tank 82mpg.
Top speed after Thai ECU, pipe and snorkel removed is 82mph. Stock top speed was 85mph.
Its fun and nimble for both traffic and narrow trails.
Been riding since 2012 and I really enjoy this bike a lot.
The fuel used option is indeed accurate. The Fuel gauge will start flashing when you still have over a gallon left so I would recommend using that fuel used feature to know how much you really have left.
Thanks for this review. Informed as always. I want one! And I really like the idea of your multi-month test ride and adding accessories. It will make a great series. Kudos to you and Honda. Nice shout out to ItchyBoots too.
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Love the vid, all your content for that matter! When is part 2 dropping?!
Thanks for the excellent review👍🏼I’m considering the Rallye as a second, smaller ADV bike
Amazing video thank you
Thanks !always good information
Excellent review! I have the 250 Rally now ,and have a deposit on the 300. looking forward to see your mods. Cracked me up when you were bouncing on it. I'm only 150 lbs. so I don't have a lot of issues on the 250.
I’ve had my 300L for 5000 miles now. Over lots of technical off road and mixed riding.
And I would agree with pretty much all of your opinions on the bike. :)
I will add, the bike (stock) really shines in slow, technical riding. When you HAVE to ride slow because the single track is so tricky or steep or very uneven, that is when the bike is a fantastic choice. (With better tyres)
You can tackle difficult slow terrain for very long periods without getting tired.
And the comically soft suspension is, in that circumstance actually a benefit.
Harder taught suspension is CLEARLY better when you are going fast.
But when going slow over very bad trails the soft suspension soaks up the bumps and stops you getting so tired and rattled. :)
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I apologize for laughing my butt off at you and the bike when it fell over. Thanks for keeping that in for the rest of us newbs
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Holy moly you left the drop in hahaha. That's awesome, been there, done that! :(
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Love your videos ! Really!
Great job. As always one of the best channels.
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Your Honda rep at 3:03: 🥵
I am REALLY looking forward to this series! I think $1500 is a realistic budget for mods.
Thank you for the review sir
The plastic bash plate on the rally is one of the best of any bike. Many have tested it and it's very durable. Many enduro bike come with plastic because it holds up better than aluminium.
@Peter Alexander The plastic is way more durable than aluminium, but if you really brake it you can fix it with some tape.
Highly recommend gearing the front sprocket down to a 13. Gives a tad more grunt off road without really affecting the top end wierdly. Also 550 performance has ecu flashes that improve performance with 87/91 octane without the need to upgrade the intake or exhaust. I'm waiting for my motox exhaust and I got the stage 1 though. Can't wait!
Thank you! Really looking forward to seeing the improvement. I’m in this market right now and if the suspension can be fixed economically, I’m in. Don’t see how you will avoid working on the pillowy forks. 🤔😀 And, hey, I usually throw my bikes over to the other side to pick them up, so no big deal! 😂
Looking forward to this series since e this is the top contender for my next bike. Do you have a release timeline for the series? No pressure, just excited about the content😁😁
This is great Ian. Cannot wait to see what you do with the bike. Interested in the tires you choose as I'm getting ready to replace mine and there's so many options.
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Great review. Looking forward to the rest.
Thanks!
This is a series that I am really looking forward to watching because the CRF Rally is a bike that has been on my radar ever since it was introduced in the 250 form. You and I are extremely close in height, inseam and weight, so it will be interesting to see your mods and final outcome. I'm searching for that light-weight Japanese unicorn adventure bike that I can use to travel the western continental United States, and that I can use to extend my reach to Alaska. I rarely do interstates so this bike may be the ticket!
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300th like
And I love my regular 300L minus the things you pointed out. But for $5500 the 300L with abs isn’t shabby for a do it all dual sport.
Enjoy!
I love hearing you giggle when you hit the throttle on any of the bikes you test ride!
Great review!
and, Itchy Boots did change out her suspension when she got to San Diego, CA…❤
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Tnx for a good review on the bike. It will be interesting to follow the upgrades. I’m in line fore a 2023 300l (not the Rally ) and planning on doing the same to my bike.. 😊@Big Rock Moto
Do a shock preload adjustment video with and without panniers and luggage. Nice video content!
I’ve tried to get a test ride and make a video with this bike for a long time, but they are completely sold out here in Norway. The 300L is available and I might buy one myself to trail ride on.
Thanks for another excellent and informative video Ian!
What about your 701?
It’s sold, I’m back on a T7 but looking for a budget trails bike to accompany the big T7 😁
Awesome shoutout for Noraly. I'm a huge fan and can't wait to see what's next for her, probably cross the bottom of the Pacific Ocean ride to China...😃😃🤣😂
Nice! Looking forward to this. My 300L has a few protection upgrades but not much else so far.
If you haven't seen it, check out Shonky's absolute abuse of his 300 Rally (in an actual Rally). He finished second in class with a broken shoulder and a broken nav tower, not too shabby. Considering how much he has beaten on this bike already (crossed the Simpson Desert unsupported for example), it says something about the longevity.
hahah Man was that funny. Glad you left it in the video. The lift test.
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Wow amazing review .. super honest.. and with the drop.. initially i thought you did that on purpose .. but as i said you're honest i like your review .. Thanks from italy
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Big Rock Moto---you give the best reviews, thank you! Oh yeah, how is your leg? You did a serious groin pull on your 300L ride a few weeks back. We've all been there, done that. NOT FUN!
Great, honest review. Well done.
I've really enjoyed learning about adventure/dual-sport motorcycles from your channel. Your various tutorials have helped me narrow down my choice for my first motorcycle in about 35 years. I've finally landed on the Honda CRF300L Rally. I'm probably going to acquire one sometime in the spring of 2023. I know I'll need to do things to the suspension (I'm 6'3" and 220 lbs.). Thus, I'm looking forward to seeing your mod's in your ADV/LITE Part 2. Do you have a projected release date at this time? No real pressure from my end, I've got plenty of time before I get the bike. Thanks again for all your great work!
I love my Rally. A seat concept seat was a must for me, and it made all the difference in the world. I couldn’t ride it for more than 2hrs before I needed to give my rear end a break. Now I can ride it for as long as I wish. And yes, i have over $1500 in other mods.
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Nice real drop test! 👌 Not sure what they were thinking on the suspension.
Great job mate
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Love you videos!
This should be a fun piece & would be fun to do. I have some interest in the bike, but have concerns about it’s apparent lack of power. We will know more when you’re done & can watch Itchy Boots ride hers on a long term adventure. Great that you showed the drop. FYI I broke 2 of KTM’ trick plastic skid plates before giving up and putting on an aluminum one.
Yup we need a 450
I have a 300 Rally and love it. It’s gonna be tough to keep the upgrades to 1500. Just the Rally Raid suspension was close to 1500. Then all the other stuff really ads up but to me it was all worth it after coming from an almost 500 lb ADV bike the Rally is a dream
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I am one more CRF300L Rally owner here and I agree totally. I am 71 years old and weigh 153 lb and this suspension is still way to soft. I am looking forward to what you will upgrade the suspension with and how much it improves the ride. I have 2492 miles on this bike now and I love in every way except for the tires and the suspension. I live in WA state and have ridden on the free way here and was able to hold a steady 65 mph fairly comfortable with all my gear on and about 50 lb of luggage. Great review of this bike and I am also a big fan of Itchy Boots.
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