Years ago I frequented an electronics store that sold high quality, American made OFC wiring, including speaker wire by the foot. Went home with brand in hand and was thrilled to find numerous gauges of speaker wire available by the spool, direct. Unfortunately, the exact same thing is happening to all the varieties I've purchased from them over the years. It's such a shame. 10-14g, all sticky and nasty jacketing. The 12 & 14 I've used in my car stereo has suffered the most, as the wire itself is exhibiting the degrading you've shown here. The brand in question also came in a clear jacket. I've since went to an industrial wire manufacturer, again here in the U.S., for my 10g multi-strand, seems to be holding up really well, fingers crossed. I purchased single strand and made my own cables, as terminating 10g into my vintage equipment and speakers is a challenge. Subscribed today.
Thank you for adding your observations to the channel and I do appreciate your subscription. Please do tell others about the channel and the 175 other videos already up. We plan many many more. Our mutual experience is also why I don't touch vintage reel to reel machines as many times the rubber belts have devulcanized. Talk about sticky black licorice! I've had to use gasoline to clean my hands after tangling with a few of them. Lord forbid it falls on other internal parts.
As did I! It's almost the worlds largest alumni association! I really try to break things down to terms folks can understand. I usually use analogies. Thank you for taking the time to comment on my channel. Please subscribe if you have not already and tell others about this channel.
Great job! Thank you for just telling the truth! I just helped a friend re-wire a set Khorns from the late 90s. The green Monster Wire created a very dull hard sound. Re-wired with Mogami and wow what difference.
Thank you for your contribution to the channel and you are the first to report that you did, in fact, find green cable inside a set of Klipsch speakers. Now, changing the cable to another brand will also have a sonic signature impact so I don't know exactly what improvements would have happened (in comparison to the Mogami) if it had been rewired with Monster Cable. But yes, you can hear the difference. If you have not subscribed, please do so and tell others about this channel.
Had a pair of Infinity Kappa’s with unrepairable Polydome drivers. Replaced with aftermarket drivers. Sounded terrible, gave them to a vintage audio shop I frequent. Noticed the internal wiring was branded Monster for the connections from X-over to drivers. BTW; the shop completely reworked the X-overs. Think they are now part of the owners personal system.
Thank you for your contribution to this channel. Yes, another person has reported their use as well but, again, I don't want people taking their speakers apart just to look as I don't know if the wire used by them is different than the OMC500 issues.
I had clear jacket 16ga Monster speaker wire from 1991. The plastic has turned sticky in many places, as well as stiff in other sections. Noticed it last year when taking an old system apart. Put the wire aside or threw it away. Just couldn’t handle it anymore. Can’t recall if the copper turned green.
Your experience is what is called leaching. Many clear covered cables experience this. However, in the case of the OMC500, it also leaches into the actual copper. Many others cables have the copper insulated in a non-clear jacket. Thank you for contributing to our channel. If you have not subscribed, please do and also tell others about our work.
The green oxidation will be caused by the oxygen content of the copper which in this case would indicate a fairly high content.OFC types have a much longer life span but in fact there is no such thing as oxygen free metals.Even aerospace double vacuum melted steels and alloys have tiny amounts of gasses in them.
Thank you for your contribution to the channel and subject. Any contribution to explain what is happening is most acceptable. That said I know chlorine is in play as it and the plastic leaches into the copper.
Yikes! Didn't know about them but the clear jacket approach was made popular by Monster and so there being look-a-likes is not surprising. Thank you for contributing to our channel and please do subscribe. It would be great if you told others about our work.
Yep, that's usually how it is discovered. That's why I suggested the people take a look. Thank you for contributing to the channel. I do appreciate the effort. Please subscribe if you have not already and tell others about our work.
Well, I was just pointing out a problem with this particular cable as I have seen the results with standard speaker cables used in homes. It does raise the question as I am almost positive OMC500 or a similar clear jacket cable was used in them for a bit. If it looks fine, leave it alone. If not, you know what you need to do.
Outstanding contribution. Thank you for taking the time to contribute to the channel. Now, I don't know if the cable used by manufacturers is exactly the same or subject to the same issues. All I am suggesting is take a look at them if you have cause to get into you speaker. I don't want people taking their speakers apart as this could create even bigger issues.
Well, I am not speaking to that or, for that matter, any other cable or product. I do recognize, however, that many cable companies do not, in fact, own the means of production. They have to pay someone to make them for them and there are different companies that do that Costs are both a combination of the complexity of the cable itself as well as the set-up costs which gets averaged out over the size of the run itself. The more unique and small batches simply cost more.
Well, if you can not, then you should not be driving. In actuality, you can if you are paying attention to the music. You can still hear timing and phase which is essential when driving when you hear a car coming into your blind spot or falling back. That can also be pitch. So, while we both are losing frequency range, the critical areas remain fairly untouched for our survival. Nature is pretty cool. So, while we might not hear a twig being broken by a predator, we can still hear someone yelling "watch out!" That's the primary range of music. Look at the Fletcher-Munson curve and it will all make sense.
Years ago I frequented an electronics store that sold high quality, American made OFC wiring, including speaker wire by the foot. Went home with brand in hand and was thrilled to find numerous gauges of speaker wire available by the spool, direct. Unfortunately, the exact same thing is happening to all the varieties I've purchased from them over the years. It's such a shame. 10-14g, all sticky and nasty jacketing. The 12 & 14 I've used in my car stereo has suffered the most, as the wire itself is exhibiting the degrading you've shown here. The brand in question also came in a clear jacket. I've since went to an industrial wire manufacturer, again here in the U.S., for my 10g multi-strand, seems to be holding up really well, fingers crossed. I purchased single strand and made my own cables, as terminating 10g into my vintage equipment and speakers is a challenge. Subscribed today.
Thank you for adding your observations to the channel and I do appreciate your subscription. Please do tell others about the channel and the 175 other videos already up. We plan many many more.
Our mutual experience is also why I don't touch vintage reel to reel machines as many times the rubber belts have devulcanized. Talk about sticky black licorice! I've had to use gasoline to clean my hands after tangling with a few of them. Lord forbid it falls on other internal parts.
I love the "Radio Shack" vibe of your workshop... brings back memories when I worked there as a college student.
As did I! It's almost the worlds largest alumni association! I really try to break things down to terms folks can understand. I usually use analogies.
Thank you for taking the time to comment on my channel. Please subscribe if you have not already and tell others about this channel.
Great job! Thank you for just telling the truth! I just helped a friend re-wire a set Khorns from the late 90s. The green Monster Wire created a very dull hard sound. Re-wired with Mogami and wow what difference.
Thank you for your contribution to the channel and you are the first to report that you did, in fact, find green cable inside a set of Klipsch speakers. Now, changing the cable to another brand will also have a sonic signature impact so I don't know exactly what improvements would have happened (in comparison to the Mogami) if it had been rewired with Monster Cable. But yes, you can hear the difference.
If you have not subscribed, please do so and tell others about this channel.
Had a pair of Infinity Kappa’s with unrepairable Polydome drivers. Replaced with aftermarket drivers. Sounded terrible, gave them to a vintage audio shop I frequent. Noticed the internal wiring was branded Monster for the connections from X-over to drivers. BTW; the shop completely reworked the X-overs. Think they are now part of the owners personal system.
Thank you for your contribution to this channel. Yes, another person has reported their use as well but, again, I don't want people taking their speakers apart just to look as I don't know if the wire used by them is different than the OMC500 issues.
I had clear jacket 16ga Monster speaker wire from 1991. The plastic has turned sticky in many places, as well as stiff in other sections. Noticed it last year when taking an old system apart. Put the wire aside or threw it away. Just couldn’t handle it anymore. Can’t recall if the copper turned green.
Your experience is what is called leaching. Many clear covered cables experience this. However, in the case of the OMC500, it also leaches into the actual copper. Many others cables have the copper insulated in a non-clear jacket.
Thank you for contributing to our channel. If you have not subscribed, please do and also tell others about our work.
The green oxidation will be caused by the oxygen content of the copper which in this case would indicate a fairly high content.OFC types have a much longer life span but in fact there is no such thing as oxygen free metals.Even aerospace double vacuum melted steels and alloys have tiny amounts of gasses in them.
Thank you for your contribution to the channel and subject. Any contribution to explain what is happening is most acceptable. That said I know chlorine is in play as it and the plastic leaches into the copper.
Have tributaries 12 guage from 2003 and used for rears went to use and found alot of black stuff all threw 😮😊
Yikes! Didn't know about them but the clear jacket approach was made popular by Monster and so there being look-a-likes is not surprising.
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I had some Monster cable from the late 90s that went like that around 10 years old. Absolutely rotten!
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I've recently noticed this problem while changing some speaker plugs, the once copper color is dark 😳
Yep, that's usually how it is discovered. That's why I suggested the people take a look.
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for ext. spkr wire,, we like furutech,,,
Well, I was just pointing out a problem with this particular cable as I have seen the results with standard speaker cables used in homes. It does raise the question as I am almost positive OMC500 or a similar clear jacket cable was used in them for a bit. If it looks fine, leave it alone. If not, you know what you need to do.
infinity also used monster cable in their speaker's......
Outstanding contribution. Thank you for taking the time to contribute to the channel. Now, I don't know if the cable used by manufacturers is exactly the same or subject to the same issues. All I am suggesting is take a look at them if you have cause to get into you speaker. I don't want people taking their speakers apart as this could create even bigger issues.
Years ago I thought Monster Cable was overpriced living on good marketing
Well, I am not speaking to that or, for that matter, any other cable or product. I do recognize, however, that many cable companies do not, in fact, own the means of production. They have to pay someone to make them for them and there are different companies that do that Costs are both a combination of the complexity of the cable itself as well as the set-up costs which gets averaged out over the size of the run itself. The more unique and small batches simply cost more.
I am old now, and the ears can’t tell the difference. 2nd law of thermodynamics.
Well, if you can not, then you should not be driving. In actuality, you can if you are paying attention to the music. You can still hear timing and phase which is essential when driving when you hear a car coming into your blind spot or falling back. That can also be pitch. So, while we both are losing frequency range, the critical areas remain fairly untouched for our survival. Nature is pretty cool. So, while we might not hear a twig being broken by a predator, we can still hear someone yelling "watch out!" That's the primary range of music. Look at the Fletcher-Munson curve and it will all make sense.
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