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That is what I suspect as well. More likely a storage unit. But, again, people are buying them, looking at market prices, and flipping them for a profit without a care or, at least, any understanding. This is exactly why I continue to point these sort of situations out and I have a beauty of a one coming up shortly. Keep telling others about my channel and both subscribers and customers are most welcome.

Oh, I whole heartedly agree, particularly cassette decks, reel to reel, and most Dual turntables. BIC turntables were notorious for seized bearings. But now even Skylabs, a major proponent of vintage equipment is starting to throw up flags about various pieces in their posting "We Used to Love Them! What Changed? While I am a bit more severe about it, I will continue to throw up examples of various nightmares particularly at today's prices.

Thank you kindly. If you want to read about the magnitude of this gift, please see my September blog on our website www.audibleelegance.com. We have entered into a territory where few have gone before.

RF is a real bugger to find and correct. Only methodically can it be found. Well done.

I agree completely however most people have neither the room nor the budget for such an approach. So, I shot for down the middle addressing some of the real basic issues. Years ago with Naim we used separate Sound Org tables but many people were put off by the number of separate tables. More advanced towers these days cost in excess of $2,000. Micro vibrations are one thing, the other is the use of steel chassis that spread magnetic fields all over the place. Aluminum is greatly preferred as it has no magnetic properties. That one is ignored by most manufacturers because people assume more weight means a better product. Pioneer use to add weights to the inside of the Cassette, DVD and CD players just to get the effect. Others did too.

You are most welcome. I find there is so much to talk about without pushing a brand or product. Once in awhile I do but only if it is exceptional and pretty much universal. A lot of common knowledge has been lost over the last 20 years. I'm just trying to fill in the holes. Please tell others about our channel and the other 190 videos. So many more planned. Please subscribe and encourage others to do so.

It has been quite a journey. Finally allowed to come home after 153 days in the Cleveland Clinic after 3 days in Sentara in Norfolk Virginia. As you can imagine, I have been rather busy as while she was up there, I was trying to keep our farm together with livestock. Quite a 3 ring circus, really.

What is more amazing is the unique position she now sits in humanity. Of an total population over time of 119 billion, she in now 1 of around 6,000 people who have had a 2nd heart transplant. In numbers, that is .00000000536 percent of all humanity. Read my September blog because you will begin to understand the responsibility we now have towards humankind. Through it all for this 2nd heart transplant, she had been opened 3 times making it 5 times she has been cracked open. Yeah, one really tough bird.

Oh, yes, that is quite a rack but it is slated for home. That is a Naim FraimLite rack which we no longer can get. Quite nice, actually. They are not cheap.

Jeff. See my September blog on our website. Cleveland Clinic. They are both magicians and an exceptionally curious lot always seeking answers.

Hey, thanks for catching that. We are human after all and I really appreciate your pointing it out. I'll let my production guy know to watch out for that in the future.

I am happy for you. Our local shop charges $300 just to look at any piece and his typical charges range from $2000 to $3000 USD. As McIntosh is no longer able to support many of the products they have produced in the past, consumers are left to deal with local operations where prices can be all over the map. So, there we are. My point is to not assume it will be a cheap investment. Thank you for taking the time to comment and, perhaps, tell everyone where you had your serviced as well.

Sorry, no experience with them.

It's funny how people have become obsessed with whether or not I use the white board and say nothing about the contents. Interesting. My videos are shot live, no script, no teleprompters, and little to no editing. So, I keep things handy just in case I want to use them and sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. Think of it as live TV without any 5 second delay as done now but there was no delay at all in the 50s. Made for some interesting television and quite entertaining.

@@audibleeleganceinc That's fair. I haven't seen a vid from you before, so I'm not familiar with your style. Carry on. (EDIT: And ya, I don't have anything to say about the content, sorry).

@@JonPaul I am trying to do things in ways others don't. I am not pushing today's latest and greatest find or promote some sort of pseudo-science theory. Rather, I am trying to inform to the best of my knowledge and experience. When people do comment, it often gives me more ideas to pursue. So, today one person wants to use different amplifiers (Tube & Solid State) to bi-amp. There are issues with that and so that will become another video. It is seemingly working for many and a few have gone on their separate way which is fine.

I understand their position completely based upon the incredibly poor packing of goods I have seen over the years. 50 to 75 pound amplifiers dumped in a box with peanuts. You can imagine what that looked like. I had a customer bring in an Oracle turntable with packing equivalent to a paper bag. Needless to say, that turntable was totaled. And I have seen cases where I was left wondering if the product was not already dead and that they tried to pass its destruction off as a fault of the carrier when the unit itself was already trash. Sorry to say, this will find its way to the EU sooner or later.

Thank you, kindly, for your feelings. We shall now see what we can do for others.

OK, this is something that I use to run into in the 80s and 90s and it was not out of the ordinary. Personally, I am not a fan of such approaches but let me give you some tips. My preference is to use identical amplifiers. As I said, many have tried to use vacuum tube amplifiers for their tonal qualities in the midrange and upper frequency while using a solid state amplifier for the bass because of its damping factor and thus control. So, here we go: One, you need to make sure that the input sensitivity of each amplifier used is identical. If not, one will put out more power to the speakers disrupting the balanced designed for the speaker performance. Two, you need a preamp with twin outputs. If you don't have that, you do not use Y adapters at the preamp. Instead, you run one set of cables to one amplifier an at it's input, have a metal Y adapter and the cable to the second amplifier comes from the first amplifier. This is much better for the performance of the preamp. The real bugger here, if your preamp does not have two outputs is that it is not unusual for one type of cable to work best with one amplifier while another cable is preferable for the other amplifier. With a Y cable, that really doesn't work. In any event, it is going to take a lot of experimentation and patience to get the system musically right. Otherwise, all sorts of, well, interesting effects, are to be expected.

Acknowledged… I have an Electronic Crossover with Balanced Ins, and Outs that I plan to set, using frequency spectrum analysis, an audio measurement setting on a rental digital oscilloscope. I, at this point wouldn’t expect miracles, but if get either 4, or 3 Hz at the closest to that prime point, it should still sound fairly excellent, as I’m certain it’s not really an exact process. As long as I can retain that overall smoothness I’ve always liked, I’ll be happy as a clam!🌹✨

@@DrNoahBoddy004 Then your approach is far more complete than what I see typically done by many. That's why, by the way, that Thiel Audio stopped making their speakers with two sets of binding posts as they got tired of all the problems, the questions, and dreadful sounds they heard from their speakers at various homes.

@@audibleeleganceinc that smoothness directs all my attention. Most everything else is fatiguing as I don’t normally go past 93 dB when I’m in deep listening mode.

I am unfamiliar with both your Thorens as well as the amplifier. It appears that the Thorens often is supplied with the AT95. You might look into either a Ortofon or Grado but I can not be any more specific than that. Sorry, so many products one can not know them all.

You should consider watching my other videos where I do exactly get into the problems with adding a subwoofer. Take a look into the catalog of 190 other videos. Yes, the room can be a challenge but the goal is not to have paid to put a wedding reception band in your home.

Oh, I keep it handy just in case I get an idea that I want to use for a drawing. Keep in mind all these videos are done live, unscripted and usually unedited. It's like live TV of the 50s and 60s.

Well, it's the truth. I have a video coming up showing what can happen without factory packing.

Well, as long as you did not pay and arm and a leg for it, I see no problem. When I see such pieces going for $2,000 plus, ah, there's better value out there like Rogue Audio. But, in the end, if you are happy, well, there you go.

@@audibleeleganceinc no I only paid a few hundred. Although recently these monster receivers have been selling for silly money. I will recap it in the next few years which will probably cost more than I bought it for but I think it will be worth it. My speakers are from the 1990s, amplification from 70s, Streamer, DAC, phono amp are all in last three years, CD transport 2010s, turntable 1980s and cartridge this year. My point is that both modern and vintage combined can be a valid option.

@@spacehopper77 agreed and glad you agree with me about current pricing. Happy listening.

As I have said before, there are cases where such protection is called for. However, you will find that ones that are attached to your AC Panel box are much more effective than they typical thermistors found in power strips. And, you end up protecting the entire house. Keep in mind that what typically gets ruined in a surge are ICs also know as integrated circuits. Look into the whole house ones as that will also protect your washer, dryer, refrigerator, microwave, oven and dozens of other small appliances in our lives.

I am particularly fond of AudioTechnicas on Ittoks as, I believe, they made the moving magnet range for Linn. I have a Linn K18 MkII that came in on such a combination and it is truly wonderful. Long discontinued, I believe. You could also consider a Hana cartridge as we have had some nice results with those. No experience with Ortofons on an Ittok so you would have to ask around on that one. Depending upon where you are, as this is an international format, you might also look about for a Benz Micro Silver or the likes. Obviously, my advice has to be balanced against the version of the LP12 and the condition of the Ittok II tonearm. Sometimes spending a little money on new springs and grommets can prove to be most beneficial. Those grommets made of rubber do age. I also do not know if you have the original one side finished armboard or the the later ones that were laminated. So, an armboard upgrade would be valuable too. I have done a few videos on LP12s and you might want to look though those as well. So, that's the best I can suggest with the little information that I have.

@@audibleeleganceinc It is an early table serial # in the 23,000 range It's all stock with the Valhalla board Ittock arm, and it seems ok, I had some new caps put in, springs, grommets and belt when I bought it and was looking to replace my LOMC that just lost 1 channel what I can surmise as a internal wire failure, hence your timely video.

@@carlwinslow4175 You are most welcome. I think my recommendations, then, are pretty much on target. With the way cartridge prices have gone, I think you comfortable in the 400 to $800 range. You might want to take a look at the AudioTechnica OC9 as well.

Oh, yes, I think it only appropriate to call it the Titantic mod.

I am not sure I understand your question. There are so many elements to consider that such a broad question is not definable in a single answer. Could you make your question more specific?

@@audibleeleganceinc audiophiles speak about synergy of components and removing possible conflictions between pieces. How as a newer audiophile who can't afford multiple pieces of gear to swap out know just by listening if I've chosen components that are playing nicely together

@@baronofgreymatter14 OK, I kinda see where you are coming from. I am not a believer in "Mystical Magical Combinations" leading you to the promised lands. My approach involves the integrity of the signal which can never be improved, only made worse. Think of it as a message being passed around though people in the game of telephone. It is amusing to hear the message at the end which had nothing to do with the original message. So it is with audio and video. The key is to make sure the signal is faithfully passed from one piece the next. So, if the first piece in the chain buggers the music, well, the best the next piece can do is faithfully reproduce a buggered sound. This is why so many people fault their speakers for what they hear when the error likely occurred well before them. Note this in the number of brands of speakers available but far less in electronics and even fewer for source components. You can also think of it as a photograph because once the lens is out of focus, nothing in the chain will fix that and the bigger the print (more accurate the speaker) the more dreadful it appears. I certainly do not encourage the constant rotation of equipment to find nirvana as nobody makes money selling their stuff as used. Many reviewers can talk about such mysticism but they don't pay for their equipment at all. Many are with Wizard behind the curtain in Oz and tantalizing tales keep you on the edge of your seat for the next installment that you will also need to buy. All I can suggest at the moment is to look at my other videos, particularly the one about is your system rhythmically right. Otherwise, you are spending good money to put a wedding reception band in your home. Let me know where you are located and perhaps I can send you to a good person if they are close enough to you. In any event, you are certainly entitled to be a bit confused and befuddled with the way some audiophiles talk about systems. Frankly, some of them I do not understand at all.

@@michaelhughes1504 What might that mean for a hybrid Class D, like Rogue Audio’s version?

Thank you for the recommendation. We are following up on a number of tips.

OK, that will be added to the list. Expect a lot of comments on it as I have touched areas around it and stirred up a hornet's nest.

@@audibleeleganceinc Thanks Lou! Yes, I’m aware of that hornets nest. Seems to me because there’s little clarity about the factual/actual truth. Myth-busting can be difficult.

@@zizendorf It is not so much myth busting as it is the enormous variations in actual executions which leads to confusing results and strong opinions.

@@audibleeleganceinc Well, I am excluding bi-amping from my confusion. That’s different. I am talking about two sets of speaker cables to dual binding posts.

@@zizendorf again, that goes all over the place depending upon the speaker.

OK, let's start with information about the table. Please send me the combination to my web address at lou@audibleelegance.com. I need to know the arm and cartridge combination and their approximate age. I sincerely doubt tightening the allen screw will help and if over tightened, can make things worse. Let's truly see if it is the cartridge, arm, tonearm lead, or something else beyond the table.

You simply fail to understand that speakers are fundamentally engineered to operate in three different positions forming either a full plane, half plane or quarter plane. Your suggestion for every speaker simply fails to understand how any speaker has been engineered to perform "flat" in the position they have chosen. So, your suggestion is fine for heritage or vintage Klipsch speakers because he designed them to use the corners as a horn for the bass performance. Putting all speakers in the corners will certainly result in a lot of bass and a real sonic mess. Half plane speakers will have 2X the bass and full plane speakers 4X, not to mention nearly every other aspect of the speaker design will sound like crap. Your suggestion is suitable if you want car stereo sound in your home. No thanks.

Well, you have gone about explaining things differently and in more detail. Rarely is there a perfect room or a "perfect" speaker (I don't think either exists in the real world for 99% of users.) so it is a matter of finding the best results for the listener or listeners after trying what the manufacturer suggests as the best position. Each room is so different not only in shape but also what is already in it. People live in rooms and rarely is there a cave for music. I've seen far more dedicated rooms for theater, for example, than for music.

@@audibleeleganceinc Absolutely agree with you. Mentioned all combinations for science purpose only. But specialy pointed 3rd case beacuse so far It works for me. How to do it is not clear or easy - I think I did it through many years of experimenting with different sizes and types of speakers and used rooms which were just up to my modest needs. Too big room size in my opinion create more problems then pleasures.

Laughing. Yeah, even Cincinnati has a law on the books which makes it illegal to wash your car on the street. Why? Because the spray might cause a horse to panic. Yep, arcane laws are everywhere.

Well, without hearing it, I can not say. Closets, like bay windows, can be real buggers. You might want to take a listen to my video about fireplaces for more ideas. One speaker, to answer your question, would be sufficient and I would use a mono signal as the basis for initial placement. From there, stereo might require a bit of touch up. Thank you for contributing to the channel. Please enjoy our other 191 videos and let others know about this channel.

For the most part, folks have been pretty good. I have stated earlier the guidelines. As I also must say, commenting is a privilege and not a right so when they are uncivil, they are removed. I have had a few people pepper commentors with profanity and that I will not tolerate. I do welcome other opinions and ideas when they clearly state why. Discussion is also part of learning and nobody has a corner on knowledge.

Ah, the window, the windows, the windows. Unfortunately, Audible Elegance is located in a historic district and the ability to change anything, including the color of the building is nearly impossible. Changing out the windows would get shut down immediately. So, I have learned how to play the room as a benefit and not as a problem. A lot of manufacturers don't know how to play a room which is why many of their demonstrations at shows sound pretty awful and, by the way, Wilson Audio pulled one of those as well at a Rocky Mountain Audiofest. I've been tempted, over the years, to bring in one of my horses and let it crap on the sidewalk. Nothing like Cholera to bring back memories of the old times.

@@audibleeleganceinc Lou, you lost me on the Cholera Horse sh*t reference unless it’s about the Wilson room at the Expo. Otherwise, no response to my description or WASP, and typical challenges to proper set-up?

@@zizendorf Cholera is a response to people insisting on historic district. Since the area was built in 1820s, horses would make it historically correct.

You're welcome. A lot of folks get rather lost in placing speakers so I thought I would toss out some ideas.

Well, I don't know the condition of the table bearing or tonearm. That said, I don't think you be hurting yourself with going with a basic Audio Technica cartridge.Grado's would likely be too tall resulting in an improper tracking angle as the Technics tonearm does not have the ability to change the vertical tracking angle.

So you don’t think I need an ortophon? I just want my music to sound clear and nice! Thank you.

@@AndrewDelman My concern, Andrew, is the height of the cartridge would result in an improper VTA. If you look at a tonearm on a record, the arm should be parallel to the record itself. The taller the cartridge, the greater the risk that the arm will look like it is sloping back towards the gimble assembly. That will throw both timing and tonality off. The AudioTechnica were a common cartridge when that table was made and often times came standard on the Technics tables. That's why I suggested it. The Ortofon is a fine cartridge but you would need to do some homework to make sure it fits properly.

Those are not panel speakers. Behind the Goldenear T66 speakers are ASC tube traps.

Well, hum would be typically caused by a bad ground although there can be other things that are very similar like a power chord next to the tonearm lead. Feedback is a wicked critter that can at louder volumes result in speaker destruction.

@@audibleeleganceinc thanks in the name of audience

When your feet is tapping & ur head is bopping, that’s PRAT. The british & especially Naim audio, placed alot of emphasis on that in playing recorded music. To Naim, if ur feet is not tapping & head not bopping, then that’s not music.

Some music is so compressed in the recording process that it sounds rather miserable on systems capable of dynamic range. It is a growing concern with some speaker manufacturers.

@@audibleeleganceinc According to the Dynamic Range DB, The Bends average is 9 with a range of 8-10 for the '95 US CD. So yea, that isn't great. But OK Computer has an average of 8 on a range of 7-11 for it's '97 US CD. But that disk sounds way "bigger" and more dynamic... so there's something else at play beyond dynamic range compression. Could is all be psychosomatic? Certainly....

@@davidtraube7921 I honestly don't know without experiencing it. I've noticed too that some things sound better headphones. So, you are not nuts.

No more noisy Technical Analysis! The most appealing speaker’s rendering the most comfortable peaks is where I always tell them I now live.🌹