The #1 Mistake Audiophiles Make With Their Audio Rooms!
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- Not what you think it is....Lou explains!
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And Lou hits another one. Great batting average in my book! Once again, I guess I'm just serendipitously lucky, as the there's not underlayment beneath the area rug in my listening room. Thanks for the info!
I already have foam padding, but going to replace my carpet. Would it make sense to just add jute on top? Or just yank out the padding and start over? This is a dedicated HT in a basement with concrete floors.
No here is an interesting and well considered question. First, I would not double layer padding. The foam would still have its effect and I would worry that the carpet might not continue to lay flat. One of the aspects I like about jute or other padding is that it breathes and so if it gets wet it will not retain water. Foam has a tendency to retain water. As I do not know where you live, climates changing all sorts of approaches, talk with your carpet company about it. Fiber pads might be prohibitively expensive in your application.
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what about area rugs? I had a bedroom system that had a nice quiet damped sound in the room and when I replaced with hardwood floor I had so much reverb and now the sound is shit at any kind of volume. it's just the bedroom but with the wall to wall carpet the sound was much more quiet and damped. To much reverb can defiantly ruin the sound. I can't really put sound treatments on the walls as that will look dumb in a bedroom but was thinking of getting a large rug to put under the bed for looks and hopefully get rid of some of the reverb.
Well, I certainly would not count the walls out. Take a look at Pendleton wool/blend blankets. They come in all sorts of sizes and patterns. An area rug might help but it is stuffed under a bed, I am not confident it will do a whole lot that the bed is not already doing. Yes, sound treatments in a bedroom would not be pretty. I use natural fiber wall hangings all the time. Watch out for draperies too as a lot of people use those plastic or metal blinds. That doesn't help.
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Need to re-title this video Hey Jute.
Oh, that's funny. I once was a leader in a Boy Scout Troop at a summer camp where I really wanted to get over a 1,000 scouts singing the chorus of Hey, Jude and change it to Camp Food. Thanks for the delightful memory.
Interesting. I wonder if foam is better for sound proofing from floors below? I have a 50hz dip in my room. I have laminate flooring, but it does have a foam/foil underlay. I wonder if this could be why? or just the room dimensions (it's rectangular with 4 alcoves along one long wall). I could never work it out, and I soon realised that you can't just boost that frequency using EQ... my speakers got very unhappy!
Alcoves or bay windows represent one of the more tricky problems. The other one people miss is the resonant frequency of the floor and if there is a space beneath that floor. We had a very similar problem in one of our demo rooms due to the structure of the floor combined with a crawl space beneath it. Art Noxon, of Acoustical Sciences Corporation, had different ideas and it just so happened we were going to add a false wall about 2 feet into the room. The bracing from floor to ceiling was exceptionally stiff to top and bottom surfaces. Between that wall bracing and the change in the dimensions, the issue disappeared. But I still think about Art's observation as to cures.
@@audibleeleganceinc Ah! Thanks for that. Yes, I forgot that my room has suspended floorboards and about a 1.5ft space underneath (it's a 200 year old house with original brick walls) I fitted IsoAcoustic Gaia feet to my floorstanding Tannoy speakers, it removed most of the bass distortion, but couldn't fix the 50hz dip. I guess I can accept that, as it's not noticeable in most music. Thanks for your replies. I appreciate it.
I never thought about under padding. I just have a few rugs stacked on top of each other.
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Fascinating. How much of an effect does this have in terms of dB and what frequency is the problem at? I would think a bit of room correction (whether in the analog or digital domain) could help.
Couple things. The degree of the effect depends upon the density and thickness of the material. Also the square footage of it within a given room are more aspects of it. Most stereo systems do not have room correction systems many room correction devices say in home theater often use fairly cheap and uncalibrated microphones. Analog systems, well, that often places multiple switches in the signal path which better systems try to avoid like the plague. Even with them, they are often wide paint brushes when a fine one is all that is needed (which is often why some room treatments actually make things worse).
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Thus, my advice is based around avoiding the creation of the problem.
The audio world lost more than just a speaker company when Jim Thiel passed. I didn't know him but heard great things and always enjoyed seeing and hearing his speakers.
Jim was an extraordinary gentleman of immense talent and curiousity. Ingenious in his craftsmanship along with his brother, Tom. The hidden talent was the simplicity of his approach. I too miss him and the moments you would ask him a question and watch him think about it before answering.
@@audibleeleganceinc I suspected as much. Thank you for the reply.
@@audibleeleganceinc Time and phase speakers are very difficult to design. Very few companies make them. With Jim no longer there, I'm pretty sure Thiel did away with them.
@@052RC And that is why they are gone.
@@terrywho22 Thiel speakers are amongst my favourite box speakers. If I could get my hands on a set CS2.4 I would be a happy camper.
I have an area rug over hardwood floors. The rug is not very thick and has no under pad that's in front of my stereo rig. My issue is that my listening position is up against a wall, and I have no choice. I'm approximately 11 feet away. I have hung large a picture that's 5 feet x 6 feet, hoping that will help, but I'm not sure. Any suggestions?
Well, without knowing your system and having pictures of the room, I really cannot make good suggestions. I am sure you would understand.
I'd love to help but there is not much here for me to go on.
Being up against a wall isn't necessarily bad as long as you have diffusion behind your spot (or a combination of absorption and diffusion).
@@elitetrader5468 It all depends how hard you are pinned to the wall. In many circumstances, the problems are already afoot before they reach the listening position. And, the second most common mistake made by folks is overdamping the room with no degree of accuracy. In one of my situations, which was also near a window, heavy curtains were sufficient. They might not have been perfect but certainly enough to allow me to enjoy my music.
Get a bigger room. You’re essentially trying to drive a Ferrari in your garage. 😂
without being there it's hard to say. Plus you we're not specific with the acoustic problem you are facing, are you hearing too much bass? Leaning forwards is an option for that, but not comfortable. Or moving the speakers away from boundary walls.