@@Sophie-cat- Comparable numbers of F4s were made (5000+), yet there is only 1 phlyable Phantom in the US. Numbers produced don't accurately represent the numbers available for purchase or restoration to the public.
Glad to hear he's recovering. That aircraft uses the KM-1 ejection seat, designed in the early 1960s. Unfortunately it's not uncommon for pilots to sustain injuries using that seat. Soviet/Russian aircraft designed from ~1980 onwards use the K-36 seat, which is probably still among the safest seats.
@@onlyhereformoney175 So looking a little into this, the KM-1 was designed specifically as a replacement ejection seat for the MiG-21. It had to be designed to be narrow, and there were some limitations to the seat as a result. I couldn't find specific dimensions of the seats, but I would expect the K-36 is too wide to fit in aircraft designed to use the KM-1. You can't just widen the cockpit to make it fit, either. It would likely require a substantial (and costly) redesign of the aircraft. Or you would need to design the K-36 to fit, in which case you will be sacrificing the performance and safety of the seat.
fantastic journalism work !! - no smoke, engine running, slowly turning jet is shown on video - pilots eject - plane crashes in exactly the same trajectory as before ejection - LUCKILY no one is harmed as the crash is in a residential area ! and nobody asked the pilot ho they ejected ... fantastic job ! as always should I say !
Pure luck that plane didn't hit a house or buildings and turn dozens of people of innocent people into human torches. Where I live, air shows are held at AIRPORTS with large amounts of area all around giving plenty of room should something go wrong. About a year ago a B-17 and P-63 collided at an airshow and while several on board were killed, no one on the ground was as the planes landed in a wide open field.
These old "war birds" have a habit of crashing at air shows. At Oshkosh, recently, a piece of glass from the wind screen came flying off of this same airplane. I kinda wonder about the wisdom of flying these old jets at low altitudes over residential areas. I'm glad no one was killed but it's also incredibly, incredibly lucky.
Crashes happen at airshows, and with all kinds of aircraft. A lot of rules have been made for airshows to minimize risk, usually after some terrible accident. Just like with car racing, and many other activities. The plane was over a lake at the time of the ejection (the pilots landed in the water), and the plane looked like it may have been going into a turn at the time of ejection (possibly to avoid that residential area). I wouldn't expect there to be any meaningful connection between a part of the canopy falling off, and whatever failure the plane experienced leading to the crash. There are strict rules for aircraft inspections and maintenance, along with paper trails. The investigation should provide answers on what caused this, and this can be used to determine what changes, if any, need to be made.
@@burnttoast111 Yeah - and it was dumb luck that it was over a lake. I suspect that to a large degree that plane was going down wherever it's powerless rear end decided it was going down. The amount of control that may have been exercised by the pilots is unknown but what it known is that it did NOT avoid a residential area. By sheer luck it avoided an apartment building by about 20 feet. Yeah, there's risk in all kinds of things but the problem with this sort of thing is that the people this could have killed didn't buy a ticket to go to an air show and assume some risk - they aren't like the people who buy tickets, and, lean over the railings at the Indy 500. If you can't see the difference any attempt to explain this simple difference would be beyond your ability to comprehend. One thing is not like the other - doh.
@@guymerritt4860 You are stating with such confidence an understanding of this accident which doesn't seem to be justified. Are the plans for this aircrafts flight for this airshow posted somewhere online, which you have carefully examined? Have you been studying maps of the area, where all the residential areas are? Or are you using the power of imagination based on a 10 second video clip? Honestly, if the number of deaths and environmental damage from airshows cause you this much concern, I wonder how it would be possible for you to sleep at all. You must be living in a concrete underground bunker wearing full safety gear, and living on crops grown in your hydroponic farm. Crops you perform rigorous chemical/biological tests on to ensure that there is no contamination. I took a brief look at airshow deaths in the US. It would probably take at least 50 years of airshows in the US to amount to the number of people killed in car crashes in a single day in the US at current rates. And most of those killed are people flying the planes. I'm not trying to make you feel bad here. The human brain is error-prone, and there are many types of fallacies it naturally makes. You can look up cognitive biases to see a large list of the types of errors we all naturally make. Have a great day!
What actually happened to cause them to eject? The mig ejection system was designed for low level ejections which is dangerous in itself. Yes it pops you up high enough to get fabric above you but it’s so violent it can destroy the spine from the energy.
Get well, soon! I want to see you with a restored F-14 in your collection. That's a "Swing Wing" I miss seeing at air shows. Afterburner noise shook you to your core!
F-14s were retired in the first place because of the huge maintenance requirement.... they were a real problem for the navy to keep maintained I want to see what this guys maintenance records are like before trusting something as complex as a F-14 in his hands
Pretty much illegal to have a functional F-14 or even F-14 parts; it is a retired aircraft from US service but is still used by Iran and the US govt. clamps hard on making sure they don't get replacement parts.
The pilot did an excellent job steering it clear of buildings and waited until as late as possible to punch out. Kudos to him! As for some of the commenters about the old aircraft being unreliable, it suffer a bird ingestion which caused a compressor stall, ergo no _push power_ coming from the tailpipe.
I’m sorry but at the altitude they punched out at they had no idea where that bird was going to land. It was just luck or what every, that no one was harmed. Just some people’s automobiles. As I understand it.
I’m glad the pilots survived and will be ok, but holy cow they are lucky to not have killed 50 people in their homes. There’s no way they could’ve know where that plane was going to hit as it clearly was heading for a residential area. I get having the instinct to save yourself, but they are darn lucky.
I think this is pilot error or ejection malfunction. For those who said he steered clear of danger that’s a complete lie. He ejected plenty high and the plane was still in a turn. He had absolutely no idea where it was going to crash and had zero control over that outcome. Pilot error I’m calling it now. Let’s see…
You wonder why he didn't stay with the plane longer to try and get it away from buildings, and then one of the chutes opens well below the altitude of the plane, and you realize why they had to eject when they did. There was barely enough space as it was.
If you are going to own a plane like that and fly it in airshows you fly it to the ground to make sure it’s not going to hurt someone. I hope he faces severe charges.
Filer flies Russian fighter jets because he was never good enough to fly American ones. As a consequence he places the public in harms way flying kit built antiques over your house/school/hospital. What the hell if he gets nervous in the service, jumps out and and kills a few people on the ground. At least he gets to strut around his local Dairy Queen in his flying gear claiming to be the somebody he’s not. 1:17
Regardless of where you look on the planet, one thing stands out: Americans, one way or the other, are the world's largest distributor of MiG and SU parts.
This aircraft reminds me of the F1-11 Ardvark or 'Pig' as it was known here in Australia. Given the F1-11 began service in the early 60's it was most likely a copy cat. They never come up with anything original. Except maybe the 'Special Operation' in Ukraine. How has that been going for them lately? 🇺🇦
@@rhuttrho88 In two years like most NTSB investigations. Sounds like he's keeping quiet for legal reasons.. doesn't want to pay for the lawn he tore up.
@@DetroitMicroSound It would be interesting to at least know the symptoms. Actually in most incidents, car for example, people readily offer information like " I lost steering, the brakes failed, a tire popped, a deer ran infront etc" Not saying anything is usually an indication the only talking he'll do is to a lawyer.
So amazing how everyone on the ground and in the air survived.
You can thank the pilot.
@@brianminkcya like how do you judge where the plane will drop. It's remarkable.
The fact this guy collects Russian jets as a hobby is impressive on its own.
This flying coffin was expensive for the owner.
Every time you buy an airline ticket you help support that hobby.
$$$$$
That's a terrible loss. Soviet-era aircraft are exceeding hard to replace. Thankfully no one was killed!
That plane is one of the most heavily produced fighter jets in history. It's not rare by a long shot
Thankfully there aren’t too many idiots like you commenting on the availability of Soviet era aircraft!
Russia is conducting rapid unscheduled destruction of all jets as we speak.
@@Sophie-cat-
Comparable numbers of F4s were made (5000+), yet there is only 1 phlyable Phantom in the US. Numbers produced don't accurately represent the numbers available for purchase or restoration to the public.
It’s not a rare plane but it was the only flyable one in the US and it’s doubtful any others will be imported.
Hoping for a speedy recovery!
Glad to hear he's recovering. That aircraft uses the KM-1 ejection seat, designed in the early 1960s. Unfortunately it's not uncommon for pilots to sustain injuries using that seat. Soviet/Russian aircraft designed from ~1980 onwards use the K-36 seat, which is probably still among the safest seats.
In Russia, plane ejects from pilot. 😃
the video says this MiG-23UB was built in 1981
@@onlyhereformoney175 It might have built in 1981, but it was designed in the 60's.
@@onlyhereformoney175 So looking a little into this, the KM-1 was designed specifically as a replacement ejection seat for the MiG-21. It had to be designed to be narrow, and there were some limitations to the seat as a result.
I couldn't find specific dimensions of the seats, but I would expect the K-36 is too wide to fit in aircraft designed to use the KM-1.
You can't just widen the cockpit to make it fit, either. It would likely require a substantial (and costly) redesign of the aircraft. Or you would need to design the K-36 to fit, in which case you will be sacrificing the performance and safety of the seat.
This aircraft did not use that ejection seat
Glad to hear they survived 👍
LOL! Ya think that might be the first thing he'd ask! Typical news media....wants to know what he had for lunch rather than get to the point! SMH 😅
Glad no one was killed
Wow, the news anchor is real beauty!
He was captured and is now locked up in the infamous Michigan Hilton. Thoughts and prayers are with him during this difficult period
🤣
I saw it fly at Oshkosh and remember wondering how long it would be until this happened. Just got an uneasy feeling watching it fly.
Did you see any parts fly off the aircraft during flight?
fantastic journalism work !!
- no smoke, engine running, slowly turning jet is shown on video
- pilots eject
- plane crashes in exactly the same trajectory as before ejection
- LUCKILY no one is harmed as the crash is in a residential area !
and nobody asked the pilot ho they ejected ...
fantastic job ! as always should I say !
Geez, you talked to the pilot but didn't ask him why he ejected.
because that isnt allowed to be disclosed until the investigation is complete.
Potato malfunction.
🤣@@VoteForBukele
@@VoteForBukele I think Russian Tanks and Russian Aircraft share some commonalities
Good point…duh!
I think this accident was a coin toss regarding possible outcomes. He was VERY lucky nobody died.
I guess he should have stuck with a Mustang and it's survival rates when an E seat is required
I was just watching a video about that pilot and his Mig 23 about a week ago. Good thing he survived. I know ejecting is not an easy ride. Not at all.
A miracle no one was killed.
My old man is a television repairman, he has an ultimate set of tools. I can fix it.
Typical Dad behaviour...and will make it better 😆with glue and bolts lying around. Im really tired of his miracle workings.
Jeff Spicolli 👍🏻
A miracle the seat functioned properly.
I like how this news story barely mentions the backseater and talk about him like he's nothing but a passenger at the very tail-end of the piece.
Especially considering he’s the one that punched them out 😂
God be with him
Horrible loss of a historic aircraft.
There's plenty of them left and this guy got a couple more and one almost ready to fly
I wonder how many of the apartment residents are considering moving.
Pure luck that plane didn't hit a house or buildings and turn dozens of people of innocent people into human torches. Where I live, air shows are held at AIRPORTS with large amounts of area all around giving plenty of room should something go wrong. About a year ago a B-17 and P-63 collided at an airshow and while several on board were killed, no one on the ground was as the planes landed in a wide open field.
Surprised he didn’t try harder to ditch over the water. Very lucky no one on the ground was injured
These old "war birds" have a habit of crashing at air shows. At Oshkosh, recently, a piece of glass from the wind screen came flying off of this same airplane. I kinda wonder about the wisdom of flying these old jets at low altitudes over residential areas. I'm glad no one was killed but it's also incredibly, incredibly lucky.
Crashes happen at airshows, and with all kinds of aircraft. A lot of rules have been made for airshows to minimize risk, usually after some terrible accident. Just like with car racing, and many other activities. The plane was over a lake at the time of the ejection (the pilots landed in the water), and the plane looked like it may have been going into a turn at the time of ejection (possibly to avoid that residential area).
I wouldn't expect there to be any meaningful connection between a part of the canopy falling off, and whatever failure the plane experienced leading to the crash. There are strict rules for aircraft inspections and maintenance, along with paper trails.
The investigation should provide answers on what caused this, and this can be used to determine what changes, if any, need to be made.
Canopy came off of a L39 during takeoff.
@@burnttoast111 Yeah - and it was dumb luck that it was over a lake. I suspect that to a large degree that plane was going down wherever it's powerless rear end decided it was going down. The amount of control that may have been exercised by the pilots is unknown but what it known is that it did NOT avoid a residential area. By sheer luck it avoided an apartment building by about 20 feet. Yeah, there's risk in all kinds of things but the problem with this sort of thing is that the people this could have killed didn't buy a ticket to go to an air show and assume some risk - they aren't like the people who buy tickets, and, lean over the railings at the Indy 500. If you can't see the difference any attempt to explain this simple difference would be beyond your ability to comprehend. One thing is not like the other - doh.
exactly. it's just unnecessary risk and pollution. people need to find better hobbies.
@@guymerritt4860 You are stating with such confidence an understanding of this accident which doesn't seem to be justified. Are the plans for this aircrafts flight for this airshow posted somewhere online, which you have carefully examined? Have you been studying maps of the area, where all the residential areas are? Or are you using the power of imagination based on a 10 second video clip?
Honestly, if the number of deaths and environmental damage from airshows cause you this much concern, I wonder how it would be possible for you to sleep at all. You must be living in a concrete underground bunker wearing full safety gear, and living on crops grown in your hydroponic farm. Crops you perform rigorous chemical/biological tests on to ensure that there is no contamination.
I took a brief look at airshow deaths in the US. It would probably take at least 50 years of airshows in the US to amount to the number of people killed in car crashes in a single day in the US at current rates. And most of those killed are people flying the planes.
I'm not trying to make you feel bad here. The human brain is error-prone, and there are many types of fallacies it naturally makes. You can look up cognitive biases to see a large list of the types of errors we all naturally make.
Have a great day!
Wow that scared me for a second there I thought that was an F14.
Will it buff out?
Get well and God bless you 🙏🏿. Hope to see you flying again soon.
What actually happened to cause them to eject? The mig ejection system was designed for low level ejections which is dangerous in itself. Yes it pops you up high enough to get fabric above you but it’s so violent it can destroy the spine from the energy.
Wow, he's lucky!
Why wouldn’t you ask him what happened and what were his injuries? These news interviews can be so lame; they seldom ask the most obvious questions.
And my wife thinks I have dangerous hobbies.
where can we see the video from the thumbnail picture?
It might have been nice if the pilot's first words to media was how grateful he was that no one on the ground was killed or injured 😉
What was left out on the cutting room floor so to speak????
It’s great having these shows, however maybe there is some way to mitigate the risk. Like having them in a more rural area.
He’s lucky. He hopped out before he had a chance to steer that mig dog into anywhere besides an apartment complex.
Get well, soon! I want to see you with a restored F-14 in your collection. That's a "Swing Wing" I miss seeing at air shows. Afterburner noise shook you to your core!
F-14s were retired in the first place because of the huge maintenance requirement.... they were a real problem for the navy to keep maintained
I want to see what this guys maintenance records are like before trusting something as complex as a F-14 in his hands
Pretty much illegal to have a functional F-14 or even F-14 parts; it is a retired aircraft from US service but is still used by Iran and the US govt. clamps hard on making sure they don't get replacement parts.
There are zero flight capable F14s outside of Iran.
Well at least those who lost their vehicles to this crash know who to sue now lol.
The pilot did an excellent job steering it clear of buildings and waited until as late as possible to punch out. Kudos to him!
As for some of the commenters about the old aircraft being unreliable, it suffer a bird ingestion which caused a compressor stall, ergo no _push power_ coming from the tailpipe.
I’m sorry but at the altitude they punched out at they had no idea where that bird was going to land. It was just luck or what every, that no one was harmed. Just some people’s automobiles. As I understand it.
😂😂😂😂 came for this "hero pilot steering it away from the primary school" comment, not disappointed.
@@typhoon2827 Yeah, I suspect this wasn't a Francis Gary Powers moment. Specifically how he died.
Should’ve rode it into the ground. He’s lucky as hell it didn’t go into the apartment.
I’m glad the pilots survived and will be ok, but holy cow they are lucky to not have killed 50 people in their homes. There’s no way they could’ve know where that plane was going to hit as it clearly was heading for a residential area. I get having the instinct to save yourself, but they are darn lucky.
MIG 23 were accepted into military service in the USSR, a record 10 !🤷♂️ years, he was so dangerous 😱! I'm glad that no one died! !👍
Надеюсь, с пилотом, всё будет хорошо. Он смелый парень!
This wreck should be in a museum, not flying.
Imagine seeing a Russian jet crash outside your apartment..
Familiar sight all over western RuZFed, and borderlands Ukraine.
These days you just pretty much just have to be near where they're flying : ).
Anywhere under their flight path....or standing next to one... especially if you have a Russian cigarette habit... 🤣@@CaptApple
Imagine it being in front of some 70-80yo persons house that lived terrified through the Cold War….
Was that a MIG-23?
Hope to see you 'up and about' (Up in the air and about to land safely) soon. 🤫
Guy must be loaded to have that many jets.
Imagine having the money to say "sighh, oh well, time to buy another jet"
makes me wonder about his maintenance records..... prop aircraft are one thing.... 40-60 year old Jet aircraft are something completely different
@@xaero76 I read he had a bird strike.
@@TheFrenchPug entirely possible, but still, I wouldnt trust military jets in the hands of the public unless they have a spotless maintenance record
I think this is pilot error or ejection malfunction.
For those who said he steered clear of danger that’s a complete lie. He ejected plenty high and the plane was still in a turn.
He had absolutely no idea where it was going to crash and had zero control over that outcome.
Pilot error I’m calling it now. Let’s see…
You wonder why he didn't stay with the plane longer to try and get it away from buildings, and then one of the chutes opens well below the altitude of the plane, and you realize why they had to eject when they did. There was barely enough space as it was.
Wonder if it was control column restriction? Mobile phone/tablet/camera lodged where it shouldn't be ??
Happened in Idaho. CH47 in North Fork.
Is the plane ok???
Seems way too close to where people live. Air shows are never over mansions are they.
They really waited till the last minute...
Injected very low and is lucky he made it work.
Kin folk said Jed move away from there 🤠🥴
Thank God, nobody on the ground died that could’ve ran into a building house who knows
It would appear that the aircraft that crashed was a two-seat MiG-23U.
That Mig does everything the in service ones can do
If you are going to own a plane like that and fly it in airshows you fly it to the ground to make sure it’s not going to hurt someone. I hope he faces severe charges.
Советская техника для опытных и дерзких пилотов
Here is the news, telling you there is no news.
He just done ran out of sky. Plain and simple.
My MIGga
😂
Was the pilot ready for the ejection as he was trying to troubleshoot the loss of thrust?
Exactly what will happen if a mig ever flies over here. Thank God he's ok.
Filer flies Russian fighter jets because he was never good enough to fly American ones. As a consequence he places the public in harms way flying kit built antiques over your house/school/hospital. What the hell if he gets nervous in the service, jumps out and and kills a few people on the ground. At least he gets to strut around his local Dairy Queen in his flying gear claiming to be the somebody he’s not. 1:17
A middle aged fella, even a fit one using an early 80's soviet ejection system?
Yeah... that guy's back is never gonna be the same.
It Was Most Likely a… Hydraulic Failure
The swing wings w/ a temperamentally aging aircraft ?
@@jeffreyrudolph5061
No; the hydraulics for the control surfaces...note the left downward turn all the way to the ground....
As opposed to parachuting up... ?
Nice
I reckon it'll buff out,
Слава советским конструкторам, сохраняющим жизнь американцам даже спустя 60 лет.
There are currently 11 well make that 10 flyable mig 23s in the usa.
Regardless of where you look on the planet, one thing stands out: Americans, one way or the other, are the world's largest distributor of MiG and SU parts.
For what reason?
Mig-23 Flogger
I thought the red star was the California Air National Guard.
I guess he can afford medical insurance but whats the likelihood they will argue he is not covered?
This aircraft reminds me of the F1-11 Ardvark or 'Pig' as it was known here in Australia. Given the F1-11 began service in the early 60's it was most likely a copy cat. They never come up with anything original. Except maybe the 'Special Operation' in Ukraine. How has that been going for them lately? 🇺🇦
🇺🇦🐷🌈⚰️
mig 23 ,Flogger named. Lucky guy
Ban all airshows!
Right after we ban you at drag shows.
Seconds?? I guess 30 is considered seconds.
@@wientz
No use staying if you can't control the doomed aircraft..
It’s mig 23. It’s normal to crash without any particular reason.
His my neighbor in east Texas bb love from lufin Tx
Ejecting out of a fighter jet is absolutely brutal.. your body gets instantly, violently shot outward.. 😮
Better than die.
@@itsWHYZEE oh well hell yeah, I agree.. it would be fkn brutal though, especially if you are low
This Capt. Wannabe should have gone down with his plane, to avoid killing innocents on the ground. By sheer luck, that didn't happen...
Wrong.
Me: "what happened?"
Reporter: "the jet that crashed was a soviet era Russian fighter jet-"
Me: "oh...."
imagine being haunted by the governement for the rest of your life
Interesting that the pilot didn’t say what happens. Probably looking at some hefty fines and lawsuits.
The first person he will be talking to is his lawyer.
The second will be an NTSB investigator.
Good old Martin Baker saves two more lives
That'll buff out .
thats funny..... other very reputable sources stated he had MINOR injuries....
He will have a hard time rebuilding his mig23 piece by piece.....
Wasn't there two crew members? I know they both survived, but how is the other guy doing?
Play it again and listen.
1:04
Braille?
@bensonfitch6697 Play it again and listen.
@@alfonsedente9679 Man....that was really hard to follow, eh?😃
Soviet made; lucky he wasn't shot out of the sky. Trader
I have heard that soviet turbine engines are unreliable and have a short service life.
How TF does one afford MULTIPLE jets on a commercial pilots salary? That’s impressive
depends on what he flies.... many OTP( over the pond) pilots are six figures... also Naval retirement...
@@stopspewinshit7878 Dude must have side hustles. My household income is well into 6 figures and we couldn’t afford a used 150 lol
Algien save cuantas horas de vuelo tenia este piloto en el MIG 23
The obvious question its... what happened that you ejected. Like give us some indications of the issue.
It'll be known after the investigation. You'll be just fine son!
@@rhuttrho88 In two years like most NTSB investigations. Sounds like he's keeping quiet for legal reasons.. doesn't want to pay for the lawn he tore up.
It's Russian. Could be a long list of potential problems.
@@DetroitMicroSound It would be interesting to at least know the symptoms. Actually in most incidents, car for example, people readily offer information like " I lost steering, the brakes failed, a tire popped, a deer ran infront etc" Not saying anything is usually an indication the only talking he'll do is to a lawyer.
Agreed. But when you have a laundry list of potential issues..... @@craig7350
Which pilot was shot 😮
The cause of the accident… Soviet plane.
Could have killed many people. Lucky
Owning Russian jets = Learn how to use the eject button.
75% of the time they dont work....
What does he mean he doesn't know what happened. Must be some reason the pilots ejected.