2024 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Review | P1 Podcast
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Max Verstappen took a ninth win in a row but there was plenty to talk about from the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix from Haas heorics to Ollie Bearman's impressive debut.
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Piastri has been seriously overlooked this weekend. What a drive to P4.
Was incredible from Oscar. One of his best drives.
@@gameofender4463mmm... He had a very good race, but imo, his overall rafting should be lowered a bit by the fact he got stuck behind hamilton, but in the end yes, a very good race for him
To be fair that's the fault of the mclaren car, not really the driver.@@SPProduction02
@@SPProduction02 If not for the straight line tractor, he could have passed Hamilton and also he was on a set of slighlty used hards if I'm not wrong.
@@SPProduction02 dropping his rating over problems with the car being able to actually do the overtake? you're high. the fact that he took that dumpster fire and finished 4th...
couldn't pass Hamilton, when Hamilton had the faster car and was on newer tyres? I'd love to see how YOU would handle that situation... would you just take Hamilton out? I bet you would...
My most memorable: "Can you bring the car back Lance?...No, I'm in the F***ing wall!" ~AM
My boy Lance Slow ⛳
We can't really complain about "the Boy from Chelmsford" considering how much we hear "the Monagesque driver..."
Monégasque*
Cause Monaco is more unique
As a Norris fan, I’m surprised he got no penalty. I thought it was a guaranteed penalty
a thing that I haven't seen mentioned about this is that there was no movement at the moment the lights went out. the way ive understood the rules over the last few years (think bottas) is that as long as you dont leave your box (completely) and you aren't moving at the moment the lights go out youre chilling
He didn’t move far enough to alert the sensors I think
I think it was because he didnt gain anything from it, he honeslty kinda lost on out in lol because he didnt react in time when the lights did go out
It was a penalty. Add it onto the list of Lando mistakes when it matters.
Ant Davidson did a segment on Sky F1 about this. It turns out that the sensor under Lando's car wasn't working correctly and didn't go off. Now that in itself doesn't prevent the stewards from handing out a penalty based on their own eyes and the footage but, it does leave room for McLaren to appeal the penalty and almost certainly win the appeal apparently. Stewards looked at it, came to the conclusion that even if they awarded a penalty it would be overturned and since Lando had kind of penalised himself anyway by botching the start they wouldn't bother.
Edit: Doh! And then I watched the rest of the conversation.
The Bear we deserve in F1- Bearman
The Bear we have in F1- LogiBear 😢
Lets see Bearman in more than one race in a Williams. Overhyped.
He took a number 3 car to p7
I think it is a little over hyped
Number 2 car i would say
Why do you think Bearman would be better in a Williams? Or that Logan would do worse in a Ferrari?
@@enotdetcelfer cause logan has proved pretty much nothing in his time in f1, he has just showed that he is a worthy succesor for latifi
“We can cut that bit out” proceeds not to cut the bit out 😂
We can ≠ We will
@@8tonystark8 very true
tbf they probably left it in since tommy mentioned that they didnt use a question later on
After taking pole on Friday, Max was sim racing with Team Redline until 4 a.m. before winning the Saudi GP on Saturday. There's a video posted on RUclips. 😳
Not that I doubt it but I would like to watch but can't find it. You have link maybe?
@@Sn0wfeverRTeam Redline has VoDs on their twitch channel.
@@Sn0wfeverR type "Max Verstappen competed in iRacing until 4 AM" it will come up
And he was actually leading the race for some time while he was playing on a controller from his hotel room, dude is a legend 🤣🤣🤣
ruclips.net/video/J9JoHkXIVJc/видео.htmlsi=Kr7OntysGVQy5V-K
This isn’t a meme link. Cheers boys
Mercedes 2025 - "we still don't understand the car"
They have built a conservative/slow car
Except they do. It's a perfectly solid enough car. Just doesn't have the Honda and most definitely not the Ferrari PU. All Merc-cars bar the Williams were on par. The" the car is bad" has been a Hamilton excuse since 2009. George has been rather neutral
I dont think Hamilton has the time or patientce with another lost year...time isnt on his side. Also Russel litterally said they dont understand why the car was so slow this weekend@@bertdemeulemeester
Wolff has the best job security in F1. Any other TP would've been out by now.
@@bertdemeulemeesterI'm a Honda fan so I'm all for praising them, but the truth is that the FIA recon Ferrari has the fastest PU right now, but that it is very close between them, Honda and Mercedes. I honestly don't know which order they go in, but during Renault's request to develop power to catch up, they were compared with Honda, so that could be interpreted as Honda being the 3rd best, but not sure.
Tommy getting only one point for Haas getting a point in the race undervalues the boldness of that prediction. That was BOLD and deserves more
It is to offset the fact that he predicted Verstappen as the winner.
Bearman was impressive but don't overblow it. Lawson finished 8th in a much worse care under even worse circumstances because he hadn't just been driving an F2 car around Zandvoort that weekend. Yes Liam's 4 years older and has more experience outside F1 but still, the AlphaTauri was literally last on the grid and the weather was crazy for a debut. He didn't get a lap on slicks until the formation lap. What I think this actually says there are several potentially better and more exciting drivers waiting for a seat than some of those who have seats. Midfield drivers holding on into their 30s are killing new talent entering the sport, and potentially harming the sport's popularity. Honey Badger, Kmag, Bottas, Hulk.... Right there are 4 seats that would be better served filled with new talent.
i agree with you 3/4... Hulk seems to actually be performing for his spot compared to the other three
lawson finished 13th in zandvoort, not 8th
Yea exactly, I think that what Lawson did is much more impressive, ofc Bearman did great also, but people are creaming it
ok i was with you until you started saying that ricciardo kmag bottas and hulk dont deserve a seat over window licker stroll, sushi tsunoda, logan sargeant, and zhou. those are the worst drivers on the grid and its not even close
Lawson also was not great in the other races he was in, including spinning out and crashing.
The justification for Lando's lack of penalty was that it didn't trip the sensors. That means it's a very clear-cut case here: it's stupid to rely on potentially fault sensors when you have actual clear-cut visual indication that he was moving when he shouldn't have been. In fact, if anything, this very example demonstrates why you need to NOT rely on sensors for your data. Especially when you have the option of looking at clear, undeniable footage. Other sensors on the cars fail all the time.
It's absolutely nonsensical to ignore footage that shows him clearly incurring a penalty simply because a sensor doesn't outright tell you that he did.
Exactly. Well said.
To be honest, looking at the replay, he jumped before, but I think he didnt cross the grid box line before the lights were out. I was playing the replay at .25x on YT, an looks like the lights were out just as he was about to cross the line.
It's not all about sensors. Some of it is about the advantage he gained from it, he start then stop then start again with late reaction. If it was a bit longer straight or a right turn, he just dropped position. So yes, the only reason he keeps his position is the track layout.
He stopped, he didn't leave his Box and he didn't gain an advantage.
@@samuelevolve184 But that's not what the sporting regulations say. Article 48.1(a) says that a driver will be penalized if:
"Moved before the start signal is given, such judgement being made by an FIA approved and supplied transponder fitted to each car"
Meaning, the decision was base solely on the fact that the sensors didn't detect what anyone's eyeballs could. It's ridiculous. If you move before the start signal (which he did), then you get a penalty.
He did really good but holy sht, people are overhyping him so much, Lawson was just as good
Yes,Lawson and DeVries’s performance were as good as Bearman did
Brit ... I mean they already get excited when they've got four in a row.
Says this whilst crying about Lewis everywhere like the typical max fan😂😂
Yes Lawson was just as good outqualifying max with a car two seconds slower and the junior team as well😂
@@ecny29*better
Yes but Lawson also deserved the hype?
Dont agree with ndv, guy was against Latify in a Williams at Monza. Its not the same.
VCARB took twice as long to change Ricciardo's ties than Red Bull did 7 years ago in that famous Monaco stuff up.
It was 41.61s. No one mentions this. The team said it was due to double stacking but Daniel's onboard shows that hos box was clear before he arrived!
Yes. The lack of discussion in the media about the pitstop feels deliberate.
@@wedgttonIt wasn't shown on TV I think.
@@walover165 as usual. It's so obvious it's ridiculous.
Also seems to have been some sort of car sensor problem which didn't help
One thing not mentioned, the reason Lewis and Norris didn’t catch up, is because they were actively fighting eachother almost the entire time.
Lando was leading and losing a lot of time defending.
If they weren’t close to eachother, I think either one might have been able to catch Oliver on those softs.
Danny had an issue with his car if you watch the onboard that carried on from qualifying. His engineer kept telling him to change settings on the car for over 20 laps...if you look at the lap times he it was never consistent due to all the changes. Finished the race with a faster lap time than yuki, the end was better for him UNTIL.... The spin was really bad lol. reminded me of Seb when he was at the end of his ferrari tenure. He needs a really good couple of races but aus gp HAS to go well for him or else....bye bye DR3
also... get stroll off the grid.
If Norris and Lewis are on the same strat as Bearman, he finishes behind them. But it wouldn't change how good he was, just the result.
Yes, so true. Also if Stroll doesn't crash he finishes behind Stroll.
Dany Ric spinning right in front of Perez Whose seat he is supposedly going to take is actually hilarious
Of all the moments Danny Ric could have spun, he had to spin in the worst one.
When Checo was closing the gap to lap him.
I believe even Lando thought a penalty was coming for his jump start. I reckon that played into his and Mclaren's descion to stay out during the safety car. They would have wanted to serve the penalty in the pit pox but at the time of Stroll's crash, no investigation had even begun into Lando's incident. Lando and Mclaren thought a penalty was coming and decided to not pit under saftey car.
You guys also missed on the question why norris and hamilton didn't cath him, bearman was also somehow increasing his pace and was even matching leclerc's pace at some point. He was banking more and more personal fastest laps. So I think its a factor of the softs being slightly old but also bearman just being incredibly consistent, he was pulling a max verstappen during his debut days
Also people seem to overlook that NOR and HAM were fighting one another. I think if either of them had been able to just knuckle under and put in hot laps then they might have caught him.
@@mrhedgebull1658 rather than what ifs, how about you become as skillful as them, get into F1 and try to catch bearman according to what you theorize?
@@ferryfernandus1423 how about you stop overhyping him?
@@ferryfernandus1423 That's a strangely aggressive post for what I feel is a fair point. I'm not criticizing NOR and HAM, I'm pointing out that since they were fighting each other they won't have been going as fast as they might have been.
@@RockSolitude who is overhyping him? im just commenting on people wanna be a keyboard warrior instead of proofing themselves can do it
2025 ideal line-up:
Ferrari: Hamilton - Leclerc
Red-Bull: Verstappen - Perez (assuming he continues with this form)
Mercedes: Russel - Alonso (until kimi Antonelli is ready)
McLaren: Norris - Piastri
Aston Martin: Sainz - Drugovich (highly unlikely but one can only hope Papa Stroll sees the light of day and boots out the incompetent inbred of a window licker)
Sauber: Zhou - Theo Pourchaire (clearly bottas time is up and he has no desire to be competitive)
Williams: Alex Albon - Kimi Antonelli (assuming he does well in f2 and sargeant remains useless)
Haas: Hulkenberg - Bearman
Alpine: Gasly/Ocon (depends on who does better or is the less shit) - Jack Doohan
Visa Cash app: Tsunoda - Lawson (unless daniel Riccardo seriously picks up the pace)
Imagine though, max goes to merc. And Alonso takes advantage of the red bull and retires winning the 2025 title
@@ethan928 Great list. Minor tweaks imo:
Aston Martin: Stroll - Drugovich (absolutely no way Stroll is dropped. it's not a even a long shot)
Sauber: Sainz - Bottas (bottas makes more sense as a benchmark, Zhou should be in his prime and still cant beat bottas who is checked out. Sainz makes sense because when the team becomes Audi he's already been there for a while. Sainz family obviously has strong connections there)
Ideal for who? I think the series would actually be more exciting for fans if Max left Red Bull. If Max went to Mercedes we could get a close title fight between Max and Checo/Max replacement and possibly the Ferrari drivers too. Alternatively we may see Max continue to dominate proving the last couple of years is all due to him. Either way I think it will be much more interesting than what we have now.
@@JMRope at least we would have a 5way battle for the rookie of the year contender
fellow RPM fan I see
Bearman debut was impressive for an 18 yr old; but doesn’t mean he is the next superstar. Any F2 driver who has a full year plus in f2 and had practice in f1 car last year will score points in a Ferrari. Only reason Hamilton and Norris finished behind was because of strategy. Piastri last year hanging with Norris is the much better prospect for future stardom. Remember nyck devris “heroic drive”. Liam Lawson proved he could similar. People need to get a grip on the hype.
Remember Bearman finished 6th last year in F2. Don’t think Theo porcheur or any number of recent good f2 guys could have done same in Ferrari?
We really need another team or two so the F2 talent can have a better chance. Now they are stuck doing post race with Will Buxton.
Agreed. Respect to him for stepping in and getting points, but it’s very overhyped. I WILL SAY, he should get praise for this, but the anointing people are doing is so over stretched. Matt said it’s “lazy” for people to say he was in a Ferrari. What is the bar for f2 drivers, to be Lance Stroll? Liam Lawson impressed just last year.
The Ferrari was 1 second quicker than the Haas and RB in race pace in practice 2. It’s great he overtook Yuki and Hulk. It’s great he kept it out of the wall. It’s great that he didn’t get nervous that Lando was closing in and bottle it, but if he did, that would be horrendous for his future career. Now if he raced with the Mclarens, Mercedes and Alonso and came out well, then I can see the appointment. Right now, just seems a bit much
What he's done has been a bit overhyped but he's shown that these top juniors can do it. Lance fumbled and crashed out and Logan is in his 2nd season and still can't get close to Alex consistently enough. Oli, Liam, both have minerals and should get seats over the current pay driver gate keepers that don't really do anything but bring in money.
I dont blame lewis or lando for making that gamble. If there was another safety car after 25 laps it would have paid off in a podium. I almost think you have to take that gamble considering you wont get in front of ferrari anyway.
You’re right about the f2 guys, several would do very well in a ferrari. Id still say ollie did better than expected.
@@pranc236 There was no gamble. There was no choice because of pitlane traffic.
For the penalties....just get rid of the timed penalties and make them have to be served during the race and not added to the end. Add in drive thru, stop and go or stop and hold (pending on the severity) so you cant hold up the field or race so far ahead that it negates your penalty.
I was also a little amazed that I learned about the new penalty times (old +5 is now a +10) from RUclips videos and not while watching the race ( I have an F1TV subscription) the commentators were completely in the dark on why Mags was getting +10's instead of +5's penalties. Even after the race they had no idea why, Sam Collins says he even went back and checked races from last year and those same penalties were +5's, not a good look for F1TV at all.l
Yes Bearman did great, but like you said: so did de Vries and Lawson. Being a full time driver is a different matter though with completely different pressures. There's also Drugovic and Pourchaire in the wings, who actually became F2 champions in the past 2 years.
I think what F1 needs is a Superformula class for these drivers to go to when there's no seat available yet in F1 and they're no longer allowed to drive in F2. In stead of just one Superformula Nippon, there should be 3: a Superformula Asia & Ociania, a Superformula Europe & Africa and a Superformula North & South America. They should then each compete over 10 races from March till September after which the top 6 out of each of these 3 division have like a Superformula Final competition against each other over 4 races at the end of the year (1 in each part of the world and a last race in Abu Dhabi)
That way you have an open cockpit single seater competition that is close to the level of F1 for the host of drivers that are waiting for an F1 seat or who are at a level that is just below F1, but getting too old to stay in the feeder series.
Alex Wurz explained on TV that Norris triggered the jump start sensor but by getting to a full stop again the sensor resets. The alternative question after that was if he was still in a correct starting position. That was why we have seen several different notices of the stuarts examining Norris for out of position and jump starting.
My solution to penalties is making it dependent on the position:
- P1: 15 seconds (race win, clean air etc.)
- P2-10: 10 seconds (points)
- P11+: 5 seconds (let them fight)
Matt: Magnussen holding up the field to help his teammate "the most extreme example in recent memory"
Checo Perez at Abu Dhabi 2021: "hold my tequila"
Liam Lawson was probably loving Daniel doing donuts 🍩😝
What’s Lawson going to do in that shit car ? Get points ? 🤡🤡
@@Chris-sf2cp Probably he wouldn't be spinning
They changed the jumpstart rules after botas had a hick up at the start in his mercedes time.
There is 1 exemption to a jump start:
As long as you stay within your starting box and are stationairy again before the start.
Bearman may have scored more points in one race than both sargeant and the alpine guys will get all year...
I'll come back to this if Logan gets 3 P9 or even a P8 finish thrown in there and then.
@@juuikowhat do you mean they went from p19 to p14? Alpine itself is at p10 (last place), no change after second race.
Ocon got p13 which is good, but gasly dnf (not his fault, but still team's). In the first race they got 17th and 18th.
In Bahrain, they qualified 19/20, while they improved slightly in Jeddah but still only qualified 17/18
Just not sure where you got those figures? The closest I can think is you're comparing Alpine's worst result (besides dnf) of p18 in Bahrain (close to p19 as you wrote), to their best of p13 (close to p14 which is what you wrote, and I guess what ocon would have gotten without Stroll dnf).
@@juuiko ah okay, sorry for being so exact haha. I see what you mean, yes ocon's result was a great improvement and I'm hopeful that it wasn't just the circumstances of the race but that Alpine do better as the season progresses! It'd be a real shame for the drivers and team, and fans of Renault/Alpine if not. Though I'd like all lower midfield teams to improve, but unfortunately someone has to end up last. It's a good sign at least that most teams are improving over the last couple years, and that even when it doesn't look like it (Alpine, AT/RB, and AM so far), the grid (besides RBR lol) is overall narrowing.
Strulovich will be the one thing giving the low 5 teams a chance to score that point for P10
"Flies down the pitlane at 200mph" You're going to jail😂😂😂
Today, a race weekend still, Max showed up on iRacing for a few GT3 races at Portimao. The new "realistic rain" upgrade that seems to be a banger.
I love these podcasts
Haas pulling a point is very nice.
Thank god for Sir Crashalot
Love the idea of running c1 c3 and c5 tires. There's not enough time difference in each tire compound right now
Yo Matt Tommy it's my birthday tomorrow 🎉🎉🎉 also wonderful podcast 😎❤
would never happen but would be interesting to see the change from having to run a rookie in a certain amount of fp1 sessions to running 1 race weekend a year. especially with it now being 24 races
35:16 I mean, "worst of the best" for Hamilton is a stretch in my opinion if "best" is the top 5 teams. Both Hamilton and Norris were unlucky with their strategy, but even disregarding that, you said it yourself Norris got very lucky at the start with his transponder apparently not signaling a jump start. If he had gotten the penalty he would have finished behind Hamilton, and that's despite seemingly having had the better quali car. And he also finished further behind his teammate.
I think both Lewis and lando drove good races, had to try something different and if they double stacked, would have lost a few positions. 6 positions according to Lando’s radio. Just didn’t work the strategy but they went for it and they didn’t fall backwards a lot
I really enjoyed the race honestly everyone not enjoying perfect racing kills my vibe a bit I understand it's the most exciting but it's still really fun to watch
You say just being in a ferrari is not excuse for him to make points, that it was also his ability. However, you have to admit that there would be no points in any of the other five teams if he drove there.
Except RB
I think the “but he’s in a Ferrari” is to say that he would not have done that well in a bottom 5 team car. Being in a VCARB, HAAS, or Alpine he might not have looked so good. He was in a car capable of getting a podium. The car doesnt drive itself, but it is one of the fastest on the grid. I say this saying 11th to 7th was a great drive.
Last two races have been 4am starts. Going to be nice to have a daylight race :D
Imagine Max jumped the start like Norris did Sky would absolutely destroy the FIA for making such ‘crazy’ decisions
They would have done that for any non-British driver not named Ricciardo. Maybe Alonso would have escaped that, too.
Oh he would have been destroyed lol.
35:00 i was watching logan driver cam, Albon had a lockup going into t27 and logan asked to attack and his engineer said "no follow Alex" sooooooo. yeah.
The issue I have with giving Ollie so much credit is that F1 RUclipsrs and any F1 media for that matter have a tendency to jump to wild conclusions way too early
20:40 that's basically the entire 2021 season... you are correct.
re - Pit Speed. I can't remember what series it was, but I remember one had no speed radar gun and only timed segments along pit road. So you would see them get off the limiter at the last timing line before their pit and FLY into the pit then FLY out and slam on the brakes on the next line.
12:52 Matt kink shaming the Jeddah Corniche Circuit. 😂
It might be a good idea to align expectations with reality. Most races don’t have intense fights for the lead under changing conditions with multiple crashes causing chaos in the pits. Most races are similar to the one we just had.
"We can just cut that out..." - Editor says nooooo haha
The haasterplan was brilliant with Hulk the only long runner to capitalise. Lando, Lewis and Zhou all suffered for it.
Two highlights of the race kmag the new minister of defense for hass. Two lando Norris absolutely walking away from the Mercedes in the fast corners. That thing was an absolute rocket ship through those corners.
Good drive for bearman, no errors, considering he went from basically a Cessna to a 747, was happy with his performance. We had debuts from drivers end in the 1st corner not long ago..
F1 kids starting grid commentary "Max Verstappen starting from the podium"😂
The way Matt says "goes against spirit of the sport" at 17:50 cracked me..
Gotta give checo some props bys. 2 quick clean races.
"We can cut that bit out it's fiiiiine" nice
Didn't Danny Ric have a 40 second pit stop,but he still managed to spin.
We can cut that bit out! .... editor leaves it in 😁 🤣🤣
Everytime either Zhou or Bottas are abt to box, my heart stop and became sooo anxious, bc there’s always some shit abt to happen😂
The F1TV commentary is so good, I can't imagine having to go back to the Sky guys.
12:40 I think they were also fighting with each other on track which slowed them down
Thanks Matt for finally getting top 3 correct.
Following other cars issue. I think the solution to this is that the FIA has to change the rules - from specifying what is allowed, - to disallow anything that causes wake behind the car. Maybe by having to submit the CFD data showing that the aerodynamic changes are still in the spirit of the 2022 rules, and do not cause negative turbulence behind the car.
This would still leave teams to develop the cars, but not at the cost of other cars following.
7:29 what about torrential downpours interspersed with dry periods and multiple safety cars at Zandvort last year?
They should have some fun races in the off season. Like a reserve driver race. An upside down race. Max in an Alpine and Logan Sargent in his Red Bull…and so on.
A top ten driver race at Monaco in old Mini Coopers. I’d pay to see that !
Bearman kept pace with Russell on the same strategy on a long stint. Only the pace difference between RUS and LEC is what BEA is missing, on a first taste of the car.
Great job from Ollie. To finish first, first you must finish and he got the car home without a scratch. If he whacked a front nose off or binned it causing half a million in damage they would have been upset but the fact he got the car home safe, stayed out of trouble and finished in a respectable position was brilliant.
Rocking episode, gentlemen. Matt was a bit cranky!
I agree with Tommy, this is what happened to Nyck de Vries. He performed well in a single F1 GP, and based on that performance he got a seat in F1, but failed to complete the season. Ollie is definitely talented young driver, but I don't think he should be replacing K Mag at Haas.
While I agree that they shouldn't be hyping him up there is a clear distinction between the two. Nyck had higher expectations due to his past as a consistent F2 and Formula E champ. Bearman is more of a rookie. He'll come in with the same expectations like Logan and Oscar did. Nyck needed more time tho, he needed to get used to F1 from FE.
Nyke was 29 and a reserve driver for years, RB should have known he wasn’t cut out for F1. If he was Merc would have put him in the Williams years ago.
@@s-pracing8514 To be fair, Nyck in the Williams would be much better than Logan.
@@Shapershift I agree, idk why he went to AT because I do think Williams was about to give him a chance
The main difference with big scale ball sports is that those don't require supportive parents to start young with. Golf is one like racing. I wanted to, but it wasn't an option when I was a kid. Later in life, I wasn't curious enough to get a course pass and kit.
It was a chaotic podcast 😂
Feels insane seeing someone at the same age as me (18) making driving a f1 car look easy while I’m stressing over homework
23:40 in austrian broadcast it was said by one of the stewards that they cant give out penalties for that if the start sensor doesnt show anything because a protest by the team would overrule the penalty. and in this case the sensor didnt react
K Mag drove a great race to help score that point. But wondering if they will soon change to a more MotoGP style format where drivers have to come in to serve penalties within a certain amount of laps of them being handed out?
5:34 if thats the case, then stop using that same lazy excuse for hating on Perez, who last i checked, has done everything needed from the team even though he isnt on Max's level and frankly no one else is either.
Bruh this is Perez's 13th season in F1. He's the 3rd most experienced driver on track. You cannot seriously be comparing expectations of his performance to those of an 18 year old who has never driven in a single race 💀
Why are you comparing a seasoned f1 driver with an f2 driver? Lmao
General comments. McLaren is clearly setup for Silverstone, feels like that’s the race they’ll go all-in. That said the DRS speed of Max passing Norris vs Piastris struggling vs Lewis was insane
Regarding the Bearman, Lawson, etc. and the young driver logjam for getting into F1, it's worth noting that there are currently 6 drivers who lost their seats F1 and left F1 and then came back. No wonder young drivers can't get into F1. I can't remember a time in F1 where that's happened before.
The pressure on teams to do well is very high with the extra revenue awarded at each higher position 📈💰. Then considering the cost cap, the decision to put in a rookie driver rather than bring back a former driver is probably quite daunting 😨.
Every year, a new talent graduates from F2. Just the fundamental mathematics of that situation dictates that there needs to be a system of booting drivers out of F1 to make room. ( Not simply one-a-year though because that would just result in rookie-in-rookie-out ➡🚪➡ ).
Maybe it also needs a financial incentive or some cost-cap relief for the team that promotes a rookie when that rookie completes their sophomore season in F1 at _any_ team ( awarded retroactively to reduce the likelihood of abuse once the finances have been received ).
But then, the term 'rookie' would need re-clarification in F1 in terms of _racing time_ rather than calendar time because, for example, if Bearman does not start any more F1 races at Ferrari this season and he gets offered a full-time drive with another team for next season, the amount of reward Ferrari should get as the team that promoted him to F1 *for one race* should not be more than the team that committed to him fully after *one* race. Even Liam Lawson, in terms of race time, should kinda be considered a F1 rookie, even if not by the calendar. It would be extremely complicated to develop a rigid-but-fair system for this, but that's just a consequence of how complicated F1 has become 😖. I could imagine a tonne of litigation ⚖👩⚖.
I have nothing against a system that allows drivers like Lance Stroll and Logan Sargent to continue, but if F1 keeps resisting increasing the number of cars on the grid and F2 keeps relentlessly outputting new young talents, then those two systems can't fit together 🧩❌.
( Personally, I think the prestige of F1 is too high for the product that it is, and young talents shouldn't only have their minds set on F1-or-bust.. But the market dictates that 😐 ).
Meh,.. I'll lose no sleep over it 🌃🛌💤.
4:45 Maybe Mercedes rented out their remote driving kit that Lewis has had since the beginning in Mercedes?
Imagine in some years time we're discussing the Antonelli/Bearman rivalry like we did Hamilton and Verstappen in '20 and '21
I'm very worried about this season, more so than I've ever felt before, first year I'm considering not watching live and just watching the highlights on YT. Only 2 races in so will see but it's just so disappointing 😞
Can't wait for a Kmag masterclass at Monaco
There should be a rule that if you blatantly disregarding track limits or pushing people off the track to gain not only an advantage but with the intent to hold up drivers behind you that it would be the race directors call to instruct a drive through penalty to remove the “cork in the bottle” so to speak. Because I could see situations more extreme like Monaco where they drive through the chicane just to hold up everyone else for their teammate to win. Essentially some sort of unsportsmanlike driving behavior penalty. Because what KMag did could set the precedent for some very silly racing strategies.
change the rules for two out of 24 race tracks? really?
Norris's jump start sensor didn't trigger, which is why he didn't get a penalty. The rules are apparently, that the only judge for jump starts is that sensor.
what if FIA made regulations based on the wake behind the cars instead of the aero bits of the car itself? So teams can have whatever fins and what not, as long as there isn't too much turbulence behind them.
Touching on the tyre issues, too many teams tyre conserving doing long stints just to make it to end of the race and no body going flat out 100% of the race. What I feel is they should change it to a single tyre compound for the race with mandatory two tyre changes per race so we can see the cars just going full on throughout the race and and it opens up different pit strategies. It would even out the racing as any car that goes through tyres quickly that worry would be eliminated.
Ollie Bearman could quite easily have been the second coming of Luca Badoer. The fact he wasn't is a testament to himself and the team.
Only one word for Bearman's performance: awesome!
Penalties should be applied on form of final race positions, and of the position range does not score points, recuce Points in championship. AND engine swaps penalties show de applied on the same way, deduct positions on the end of the race, not in the grid.
Would like to see Matt & Tommy to make up a grid just based on talent and who would replace the current drivers
With all the upgrades of the cars, overtaking now is more difficult.
I mean, I did expect it from Bearman, but that's because I remember how good he was last year and the year before. The dude is clearly very talented
@23:43 That's exactly the reason for "no further action". The rules say that the sensor is the decisive factor in this, and the sensor didn't indicate.👴🤷♂
The Ferrari is literally the 2nd fastest car though.. how is that not a factor?
Danny Rick had a 41 sec pit stop!
this shows how much the sport needs more Teams and maybe even a 3rd car with a rookie in it. if young drivers ever want to get into F1 more often then twice every decade. there needs to happen SOMETHING!
I reckon Norris didn't get a jump-start because at the time the lights went out, his tyres were still inside his grid box. Think back to when Bottas started moving 1 or 2 frames before the lights went out in Austria a few years back, he didn't get a penalty for that either.
Tommy good person to listen to to fall asleep
He talks so slow and he has no enthusiastic voice.
Any of the penalties under Articles 54.3a), 54.3b), or 54.3c) will be imposed on any driver who
is judged to have:
a) Moved before the start signal is given, such judgement being made by an FIA approved
and supplied transponder fitted to each car
soo the sensors decide
Time penalties in a position race will always be a problem… there will be instances where it’s a bigger loss, and instances where it’s a smaller loss.
Position based penalties are what should be administered in a position race.