@@sc1 The biggest negative is that 3185 movements gets magnetized and thus impact the accuracy of the watch. This movement can get magnetized with a small permanent magnet. This movement does not have parachrom hairspring.
@@WH-hi5ew I love both the ceramic and pre-ceramic of almost any Rolex sports models, the ceramic definitely feels more refined and luxurious but the pre-ceramic subs/gmt/seadweller has a charm that is certainly missing in the ceramic models.
got an optometrist appointment tomorrow. Great Video;) this is my holy grail watch. Shot next to the lettuce lol love the video. Cheers from Switzerland .
Since you already have the GMT Pepsi in gold, have you considered finding / buying extra bezel in different colors for the aluminum steel GMT? You can pop a coke or black bezel on the older aluminum models.
I have a 16710, circa 2001, but with the Coke bezel. Just my preference. I agree with your negatives, although, as you say, they are minor. I seldom turn the bezel, but it isn't a smooth as that Sub you showed. I wonder if a larger crown could be substituted for the smaller one on this model. I don't even have big fingers, but it does seem small, but fortunately I don't have to use the crown very often. As for the clasp, I suppose the trade-off is that it's a bit lighter, but it is comfortable. I have managed to find an adjustment that suits me on most days, but an on-the-go micro adjustment would be nice to have on occasion. My wrist is just under 7" and the 40mm case size is perfect. Because of the bezel and smaller dial, it doesn't wear as big as some other watches with a 40mm case size, but with a larger dial diameter.
I’ve been enjoying my 16710 Pepsi on a black leather strap. It makes it lighter and more casual, a very nice contrast to modern Rolex. I agree this 40mm size is very wearable.
Purchased a 2005 16710 last year and completely agree with all your points! Disappointing clasp and bezel action but just can’t beat the size and proportions and the pop of color you get from the aluminum bezel.
The metallic colours of the anodised bezel of this GMT Master evoke the industrial purpose of this watch, and the era when it was actually used as a professional instrument. Anodised aluminium a relatively new industrial product in the consumer market if the 1960's and 1970's, and when it arrived on the scene it was one of the materials that gave those times their characteristic look and feel. Yes this particular example was made in 2006, but it's aesthetics are strictly 1960s and 1970s based. By contrast the ceramic bezel of the contemporary GMT gives off a different vibe altogether. The statement made by the ceramic bezel's relatively muted colour tones, and its silky visual/tactile smoothness, and its apparent cost compared to a cheap and functional anodised aluminium part, and its lack of toughness compared to the anodised variant, is 'luxury'. The statement made by the bright, low-cost, metallic looking anodised bezel is, 'industry'. Yes one can argue the GMT bezel was originally in Bakelite, and Bakelite lacks the metallic sheen if anodised aluminium, but the Bakelite bezel was a relative failure when deployed in the industrial environment for which it was intended, as it lacked the visibility/contrast and the robustness needed to perform adequately in the role for which the Rolex GMT was designed. The anodised aluminium bezel was at once the (consumer grade) high tech replacement for the flawed Bakelite material selection, and the definitive design solution for the professional tasks that the GMT had to perform in the 1960s and 1970s.
The benefit of owning a “neo-vintage” Rolex, like this and my 16610, is having that industrial looking aluminum bezel, but in a package with a robust movement, a decent non-fragile bracelet, and non-corroded dial. So that I have no worries about wearing this, even underwater. And no worries about “hurting it’s value” compared to a 1970’s piece. But my bezel colors do not have that vintage fade, which I might prefer. I would rather have either colors that look brand new, or very faded pink and baby blue; but not something in-between.
I have this exact watch. I agree with your + and - points. The bezel has a softer spring for two way movement. This reduces the firm clicking of the one way versions. I had the blue / red bezel removed when I bought it new in 2005 and replaced with a black one. The Pepsi one, which was stored for 15 years is now back on. Still my favourite watch. Prefer it to my Sub.
Hi, I have an older video where I compared this to the white gold Pepsi and the current steel jubilee Pepsi. you might like it: ruclips.net/video/qElir1QFyA4/видео.html
Now my 1967 Pepsi. More negatives and positives. But I would expect that being over half century old. I agree, the crown is way to small. Even my day day. Same thing. But it seems Rolex just will not listen to their customers much of the time. Holding a 1967 GMT next to my 2022 Pepsi with the oyster bracelet. What a huge difference. Back then, there was nothing to really compare it against. In 1967 that Pepsi was a classy watch.
The biggest negative is that 3185 movements gets magnetized and thus impact the accuracy of the watch. This movement can get magnetized with a small permanent magnet. This movement does not have parachrom hairspring.
@@sc1 Yes ! that is true. Di d you like 16710 more than 1126710 BLRO? I am also looking for 1126710 BLRO. Do you know anyone who is selling it? Please let me know. Thanks
@@tausifraza6910 I had a 126710 briefly, but now I have the 126719. White gold and Much more expensive. Still have the 16710, but I have to say I like the modern version better.
@@sc1 Yes! I am trying to get 126710 for 7 years now but the ADs do not pay attention to me because I do not buy much. Do you know any AD that can help me in buying one?
Oops! I didn’t mean to gloat over this watch. It’s definitely in my short wrist rotation, but I also love my modern pieces. Everything is relative. Still waiting for the offer of a steel Explorer. That’s the only one left on my list. A Bluesy or Rootbeer would be nice, but I don’t have the energy or deep desire to pursue those right now. I’m kind of settling in to what I already have.
@@sc1 I was recently thinking of keeping the BLNR and Explorer trading in everything else for one quality high horology piece. I’m starting to find it appealing to simplify.
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I got a 116500 Panda this year and this 16710 is STILL my favorite watch in my collection.
Awesome. This GMT certainly has some character to it.
@@sc1 The biggest negative is that 3185 movements gets magnetized and thus impact the accuracy of the watch. This movement can get magnetized with a small permanent magnet. This movement does not have parachrom hairspring.
You can’t compare the bezel actions between this and a sub. Very different mechanisms
This seriously looks so much better than the ceramic one. The ceramic one doesn’t have the charm or X factor that this one has. This all day long
Have you tried the ceramic one on? You might be surprised.
@@WH-hi5ew I love both the ceramic and pre-ceramic of almost any Rolex sports models, the ceramic definitely feels more refined and luxurious but the pre-ceramic subs/gmt/seadweller has a charm that is certainly missing in the ceramic models.
Beautiful watch. This Pepsi is a much nicer watch than the new Pepsi
I thought i was crazy for thinking that!
got an optometrist appointment tomorrow. Great Video;) this is my holy grail watch. Shot next to the lettuce lol love the video. Cheers from Switzerland .
I like your new thumbnail style with texts and everything! Keep up the good work 👍🏼
I saw you doing it before me. But It hasn't improved my click-rate yet.
@@sc1 I guess things takes time? Time will tell 🫡
Since you already have the GMT Pepsi in gold, have you considered finding / buying extra bezel in different colors for the aluminum steel GMT? You can pop a coke or black bezel on the older aluminum models.
Yes, I would be interested in a coke bezel, but I would not know where to start looking for one.
@@sc1 You should check out Dr. Rolex, PHD RUclips channel, he has the same watch and recently done plenty of videos on bezel swaps for this model.
@@frankv7068 ok I will check it out
I have a 16710, circa 2001, but with the Coke bezel. Just my preference. I agree with your negatives, although, as you say, they are minor. I seldom turn the bezel, but it isn't a smooth as that Sub you showed. I wonder if a larger crown could be substituted for the smaller one on this model. I don't even have big fingers, but it does seem small, but fortunately I don't have to use the crown very often. As for the clasp, I suppose the trade-off is that it's a bit lighter, but it is comfortable. I have managed to find an adjustment that suits me on most days, but an on-the-go micro adjustment would be nice to have on occasion. My wrist is just under 7" and the 40mm case size is perfect. Because of the bezel and smaller dial, it doesn't wear as big as some other watches with a 40mm case size, but with a larger dial diameter.
I’ve been enjoying my 16710 Pepsi on a black leather strap. It makes it lighter and more casual, a very nice contrast to modern Rolex. I agree this 40mm size is very wearable.
Purchased a 2005 16710 last year and completely agree with all your points! Disappointing clasp and bezel action but just can’t beat the size and proportions and the pop of color you get from the aluminum bezel.
Yes, too bad about the stiff bezel, but now I know I’m not the only one.
Try dental floss on the bezel, it could help (between bezel and case)
Been watching your content for a while now , always interesting and enjoyable . We share similar tastes in rolex!
Thanks, good to hear.
I agree about the crown. That’s the only thing I like about the ceramics.
The metallic colours of the anodised bezel of this GMT Master evoke the industrial purpose of this watch, and the era when it was actually used as a professional instrument.
Anodised aluminium a relatively new industrial product in the consumer market if the 1960's and 1970's, and when it arrived on the scene it was one of the materials that gave those times their characteristic look and feel. Yes this particular example was made in 2006, but it's aesthetics are strictly 1960s and 1970s based.
By contrast the ceramic bezel of the contemporary GMT gives off a different vibe altogether.
The statement made by the ceramic bezel's relatively muted colour tones, and its silky visual/tactile smoothness, and its apparent cost compared to a cheap and functional anodised aluminium part, and its lack of toughness compared to the anodised variant, is 'luxury'. The statement made by the bright, low-cost, metallic looking anodised bezel is, 'industry'.
Yes one can argue the GMT bezel was originally in Bakelite, and Bakelite lacks the metallic sheen if anodised aluminium, but the Bakelite bezel was a relative failure when deployed in the industrial environment for which it was intended, as it lacked the visibility/contrast and the robustness needed to perform adequately in the role for which the Rolex GMT was designed. The anodised aluminium bezel was at once the (consumer grade) high tech replacement for the flawed Bakelite material selection, and the definitive design solution for the professional tasks that the GMT had to perform in the 1960s and 1970s.
The benefit of owning a “neo-vintage” Rolex, like this and my 16610, is having that industrial looking aluminum bezel, but in a package with a robust movement, a decent non-fragile bracelet, and non-corroded dial.
So that I have no worries about wearing this, even underwater. And no worries about “hurting it’s value” compared to a 1970’s piece.
But my bezel colors do not have that vintage fade, which I might prefer. I would rather have either colors that look brand new, or very faded pink and baby blue; but not something in-between.
I have this exact watch. I agree with your + and - points. The bezel has a softer spring for two way movement. This reduces the firm clicking of the one way versions. I had the blue / red bezel removed when I bought it new in 2005 and replaced with a black one. The Pepsi one, which was stored for 15 years is now back on. Still my favourite watch. Prefer it to my Sub.
I love my 16710 SEL holes case❤️ My only gripe is that the 5 digit clasps has some sharper edges🙄
A Great Rolex.
Wish you had compared it to the gold Pepsi.. yes different material but perspective on the case size. Thanks
Hi, I have an older video where I compared this to the white gold Pepsi and the current steel jubilee Pepsi. you might like it:
ruclips.net/video/qElir1QFyA4/видео.html
Now my 1967 Pepsi. More negatives and positives. But I would expect that being over half century old.
I agree, the crown is way to small. Even my day day. Same thing. But it seems Rolex just will not listen to their customers much of the time. Holding a 1967 GMT next to my 2022 Pepsi with the oyster bracelet. What a huge difference. Back then, there was nothing to really compare it against. In 1967 that Pepsi was a classy watch.
The biggest negative is that 3185 movements gets magnetized and thus impact the accuracy of the watch. This movement can get magnetized with a small permanent magnet. This movement does not have parachrom hairspring.
it’s a trade-off. finding a good condition 3186 is much more expensive than a 3185
@@sc1 Yes ! that is true. Di d you like 16710 more than 1126710 BLRO? I am also looking for 1126710 BLRO. Do you know anyone who is selling it? Please let me know. Thanks
@@tausifraza6910 I had a 126710 briefly, but now I have the 126719. White gold and Much more expensive. Still have the 16710, but I have to say I like the modern version better.
@@sc1 Yes! I am trying to get 126710 for 7 years now but the ADs do not pay attention to me because I do not buy much. Do you know any AD that can help me in buying one?
The clasp is essentially Seiko SKX quality.
I put the clasp on my Negative list, but I give it some slack because the design is decades old. It was good for its time.
Gorgeous watch bro but That pizza looked terrible 😭 as a New Yorker that hurt my heart
Gah. I still want a Pepsi. This one is lovely.
Oops! I didn’t mean to gloat over this watch. It’s definitely in my short wrist rotation, but I also love my modern pieces. Everything is relative. Still waiting for the offer of a steel Explorer. That’s the only one left on my list.
A Bluesy or Rootbeer would be nice, but I don’t have the energy or deep desire to pursue those right now. I’m kind of settling in to what I already have.
@@sc1 I was recently thinking of keeping the BLNR and Explorer trading in everything else for one quality high horology piece. I’m starting to find it appealing to simplify.
People with iphone 12 onwards will magnetize this movement so easily 😂
Immortal what else
stop making pictures and finish your dinner already dude. just kidding. i do the same when the lighting is nice ;-)
You exude intelligence
I cringe at listening back to my voice…. But Thanks!
@@sc1 Everyone hates their own voice. Your watches + nature + realistic commentary is gold! Keep it up!