4 Stroke Motorized Bicycle 1000 Mile Review
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2024
- In well under I logged over 1,000 miles on my 49cc 4-Stroke motorized bike! Check out this video to exactly how it's running and what I found during a thorough inspection.
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I used my motorized bike as an everyday ride for light shopping, work, and just bumming around town. In about 3 months of riding time I racked up well over 1,000 miles with no problem at all.
+Sinister Custom Cycles Hey Sinister I have a 06 Schwinn Stingray and the bolts just rattle loose after a short ride any ideas what type of tread lock to use because it's really a pain having to tighten them down.
+Michael Holm he's talking about a paint job I have a 2 stroke and 4 stroke and I took care of it and it looks beat to shit
+Michael Holm my motor won't fit due to the fact that the carburetor and fuel tank are connected directly to the engine; it's a 5hp Briggs and Stratton. I can't move the fuel tank with the current carb, so I'm removing the entire fuel delivery system from where it meets the block. I'd suggest doing something like that; look for parts that can be moved elsewhere.
+CJ The Dark Dragon I know this is an old comment, but blue threadlock is what you use to stop this from happening. In case anyone else was wondering..
Nice motor except I had my 4G transmission broke twice within the first 40 50 miles. Wish there was a better transmission out there for these motors at a more reasonable price. No way I would want to fork up an extra $350 to $400 for the EZM Qmatic which is the best transmission out there for these motors only they are for long shafts only so I would need an adapter for my tapered shaft if I ever got a Qmatic. Also the gearing on the Qmatic sucks because you'll need a 50 tooth or larger drive sprocket just to get the RPMs right which results in a much slower bike.
That black bike looks deadly with those coaster brakes
LIT 247 ~Riding habits
@@st.paulmn9159 it is not about habits, those brakes suck
Ordered the parts for my first Bulid today and I can’t wait to start working on it hope it turns out like this some day great build man 👍
Hi Ray, the engine is actually quite quiet. My fiancé and I tested it. She put hunting ear plugs in (32 decibels) and couldn't hear it while standing right next to it. I live in a very quiet neighborhood as well, so I know how you feel. The bike is so quiet that it really doesn't disturb anyone. I can listen to head phones and not even go up to the high volume levels to hear it. To answer your other question regarding the electric bikes; yes I have tried them. They are completely silent, however, I still prefer my motorized bike because the little bit of sound that does come from it helps me know how healthy the bike is. Electric bikes can break down and not give you warning signs before it happens. Motorized bikes sound awesome and really allow you to understand the health of the bike.
Sinister Custom Cycles random, but “quite quiet” just got to me lol. Very rare I get to see that occurrence.
It's been 4 years how is the bike now?
Sinister Custom Cycles hey does it still work after all these years
I save even more money running barefoot through the blocks or grabbing onto cars on my heelys I stole from a kid
I cut my muffler off to a straight pipe and it’s loud as fuck
You should probably use a fuel filter
Yeah
@American Boss yeah but its doesent get small stuff
@American Boss true
no fuel filter=clogged jets ....
Basically an updated version of the fist motorcycle
nice 4 stroke dude. Just put on my 2 stroke motor and I absolutely love it. Then come to find out they make 4stroke motor kits! Guess it's time to get one
I just ordered my kit. Gonna use it to commute to work while I wait to be able to get my license.
Once you go 4stroke... You'll not go back to a 2stroke!!
@@johnwebb6017what’s an good 4 stroke under 200
That's a beautiful bike, man. Great job :D
thank you so much buddy for making these videoes. It help me as I am sure it help alot of others! Plus great bike!
great video and looking good after 1000 miles
kinda surprised that you didnt post a link in the description to the exact type of engine kit you bought and used in this video!
I’d try to remedy that front spring issue with a bushing. That way it could be periodically changed which would stop it from ruining the front frame.
For your fork problem, make a pilot bushing for it. Any front fork that will allow the use of a disc brake will have a larger neck diameter than the one you have. An old pincher type brake can easily be fitted to the front or rear wheel, as all that is required is a single hole in a crossmember.
She's a beauty nice build
I like the way you are detached from the bike and gave the full story. It looks good, if i were to splurge i might try to make the blacks match in gloss and color and maybe paint the mudflaps babe up on the tank so she can catch some Minnesota rays.
Nice tour. Working on installing my first motor bike kit, 79cc 2 stroke.
Paul C Thank you! Very cool! Share some pics when you finish your build!
Sinister Custom Cycles I sure will. I'm looking for a suitable frame the one I was going to use is too small in the motor area.
Good review, great info.
You maintained that motorized bicycle real nicely. :0
i built a fender mount that replaces the bars and supports a headlamp. no matter how hard i dug i couldn't find a way around getting a wheel hub with the disk mounts, i did find a very cool rear wheel hub that has a drum brake!
Don't worry about the clutch. It's fine. Some mechanically inclined people will complain about the tiniest little thing, won't ride the bike after that and end up with bigger problems from letting it sit and rot away. Keep it movin', man!
Would you recommend this over chain drive
That's easily done in a couple of month on my 2 stroke ride, got to do regular inspections on these rigs just so you don't lose parts....Nice ride !!!!!
It's been 6 years! Is the bike still working, do you still drive it?
Arschwasserwasserfall
I use a 28" wheel in the same springer fork, kinda the same frame, and a calliper brake actually works pretty good with that setup. Also 28" wheels get you a little bit more speed on the top end.
Very good! Keep going! Thanks
Use extreme pressure molybdenum grease on the bolts and bearings. Ford uses it for front wheel bearings on disc brake cars. Heat will not make it run out , it is waterproof. You can buy a can or tube of it at the auto parts store. The moly embeds into the metal and has a lubricity characteristic of its own.
nice build
You can easily take off that rear rim cover, take apart the coaster hub and remove the shims which takes 10 minutes. And than attach a XL caliper break on the rear. I literally have the same frame. You just have to use your head with these builds.
Beautiful bike
I would imagine that the people who say that normal unsealed wheel bearings can't handle speed just bolted on their engine and went. Dept store bikes typically are assembled by employees and are undergreased and use low quality grease. I always disassemble any bike with unsealed bearings and clean and inspect them and pack them with high quality automotive wheel bearing grease that contains moly. For a pedalbike I do this yearly but with a motor I would do it more frequently, maybe every 3 months. Those unsealed bearings were used in everything for years and years with no issue, they just need maintained, which some folks can't bother themselves to do.
cool will do ,up go up not down, I love it .see you on f book
You can pickup a Sturmy Archer drum brake hub and lace it on your rim.
quiet/ easy start ... 500+ miles.... 3 trips 40+ miles to auto parts for the truck!!! lol... life saver! came with cheepest chain ! strtetches 2 inches first 2 blocks/jumped off and jammed in clutch,.. bent it a bit! vibration from hell! change the chain to the thicker 1.. stretched it 1/2 inch in 500 miles.. none since that ! excellent chain! got it $3.. at flea market :>)
thanks for the video. from where did you buy this 4-stroke kit? what are the most reliable and the least maintenance needing kits out there?
I HAVE AN K2 Always .,- WONDERED !!
GREAT VIDEO !
+Michael Perez Sr. Thank you very much! I'll be started two side by side builds soon which will be better than all my last builds. Stay tuned and thank you for you support!
EXCELLENT !
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+Michael Perez Sr. You're more than welcome! You can also keep up or submit pictures on your build to sinistercustomcycles@gmail.com or Facebook.com/sccmn! I'd love to see the K2!
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Find a mechanic shop and ask for the half round beveled washer that sits inside a Chevy rocker arm and put it in front and then run the bolt through it. You may actually have to get a little longer bolt, but that washer will keep the bolt centered and should take care of your wear problem 😊.
You can add a V brake to the front pretty easily by using the hole that holds the fender and buying a longer screw.
Do I install the wheel protector shield thing after or before the build? Thanks
Wear on front fork spring can be compensated for with sleeves on center bolt.
hey, what kind of sprocket do you have on their, does it take away from the tension on the spokes?
On the pull cord side there are 2 connections. The brass fitting to fuel filter then to fuel tank. Does the silver fitting connect to the other silver fitting ? I have same motor.
Do you remember which kit this one is? I like the compact muffler system on yours compared to the usually long tube style.
hey dude how's it goin? I was gonna build a bike this tax time, I was curious what model bike you used and where you can order one. also where did you get your engine kit at
Make a bronze bushing for your springer front end and use a smaller bolt. This will eliminate the wear on the housing.
How do you get tge cain on the other side of the bike, on most engines you have to replace the original chain with the one from the engine
I am about to build a new four-stroke bike and I wanted to know if you could recommend a beginner video on I put a couple together but I'd really like to know a way to simplify it and keep it light and portable I live in the city and I have to be able to lug it upstairs
I don't if it has been mentioned or if it already has one. But a heavy duty bushing might stop the wear on the bolt and the fork assembly it would wear the bushing out first..
Hello. I'm building two similar 49cc 4 stroke bikes on standard Huffy cruiser frames. One engine kit has a chain drive clutch/trans unit and came with the extended 10" crank shaft sprocket adapter and a 44 tooth chainring sprocket that seems to be what all the chain drive kits come with. My second engine kit is a belt drive clutch/trans unit and came with a 36 tooth chaining sprocket as all the belt drive kits seems to come with. That kit also came with a fixed 36t sprocket and crank arm attached which is useless because even if I buy a short spindle shaft for it, the pedals would not likey clear the motor so I will buy the extended long spindle shaft and bottom crank bracket and a new chainring sprocket. I have some questions:
1. Is it preferred to use a 36t or 44t chainring sprocket? I notice your build uses the 44t sprocket. I guess using a 36t chainring would make it easier to pedal.
2. How hard is it to pedal your bike with the belt drive unit and is there much drag placed on the effort to pedal the bike caused from the engine long drive chain and clutch components have to rotate along?
Thx......HP
maby just put a sleeve,for your ,springer front-end I got ,the second ,set of forks you mentioned,i put on a huffy beach cruiser frame works great nice work
+Dan Girtzy Hello Dan! I thought about the sleeve idea but instead of trying to modify a cheap part I'm going to get the heavy duty Monarch Springer Front End not only for the quality of the fork itself but also because they offer a disc brake mount. I've gone too long with just a rear coaster brake so my builds going forward are going to have a lot better stopping power as well. Thank you for watching and for the comment! If you want send me some pictures of your build at sinistercustomcycles@gmail.com and I'll post it up on the SCC Facebook page at Facebook.com/sccmn
Is there an exhaust on it? If so, could you explain how to do it like this? This is a similar engine to the one I have. My problem is the exhaust pipe hits the front tire. Not sure how to fix. It's a huffy beach cruiser.
These forks are known by us old folks as a Girder front end which, I believe, came stock on old Indian motorcycles. Changing to a new front end is a great idea.
Girder forks are good, but a leading link type is much smoother.
what is the kit you bought and where did buy/order it from thx
Oh, and I've been thinking about buying the "Beast" brand 4 stroke kit, probably from "Bike Berry". Do you recommend or are you familiar with it? I'm wondering where I can buy it for the best price. What is the model on this one, that you show here? So new to this so would really appreciate the information. Thanx. 😎
I have put front brakes on mine. Old style rim clamp brakes bolt right on over finders
i'm trying to put an engine on my bike too. do you happen to know the measurements?
I would like know how noisy the engine in decibels, noise is a big issue in the neighborhood that I live in. Also, have you looked into electric motor bike options?
1. Does your set-up in this video come in a complete kit(I found the engine only)?2. would a Lifan LF160F-AHQ 4 HP 118cc 4-Stroke OHV Industrial Grade Gas Engine with 6:1 Gear Reduction and 3/4" Keyway Shaft, be better for "Being Dependable", not speed?
Where did you buy that 4 stroke engine that’s in this video?
i was unable to get a hold of you for thar rear main sprocket. howw do i get in touch with you.
Try a drum brake kit for the front end no modification needed rubs about 120 for front rim includes everything
Any problems with chain getting loose and tight ? When you turn the wheel??
Would you recommend a similar build for a commuter, southern Ontario, about 200mi/week?
Nice bike. Im building one now from a 1982 murry beach bike. Its a survivor, but the brakes seem to be like yours. Am I limited on what kind of forks and brakes to adapt also? Is the 4 stroke worth the extra $ ? Seems alot quiter and easier to maintain. Why are the 2 stroker so more popular? Mabey because of price ?
They have better throttle response, easier to fix and mine without a muffler sounds like a dirt bike and to me the louder the better. I also like how it's pedal start and not pull start, it just seems more simple and enjoyable, when I pull away I want to pedal and then start then take off not pull on a cord, the 2 strokers are cheap POS but they're decent for the price which can range from 60 to 100 dollars just for the engine.
I heard you talk about money savings. What about the tickets? Here in Texes I think it is illegal to ride a motorized bike on the streets. Where are you located? Nice videos.
do these last? i had a 2 stroke kit and it kept braking and starting took alot of pedaling. would this last a year without major issues?
The video would helpful if you could have told us what the name of the engine you use? I’m looking to get an engine kit for my bike. But don’t know what is an good engine tho?
you mentioned you found an American Made 4 stroke motorized bicycle engine kit, you mind if I ask where
What did you use for a throttle assembly
Weld a split bushing front an back of that spring front. Would have a larger surface area for your bolt with a little lube
need to paint the red motor cover black to match IMO, that would be sweet, other than that ,very nice, thanks for the video
Nice project; can I know the power of engine ? Thank you
Is it possible to add a shift kit for these 4 stroke motors?
How hard is it to change the oil on this model? I have a 2 cycle engine bike, love it! Am buying another bike for a 4 cycle engine next, which is why the question. Thx
One bolt on the bottom of the motor but you honestly wouldn’t change oil more than once a year.
Can the bike climb 10% - 20% hills ? ..like mountain gravel logging roads ?
Is their a way to attach a gear set to the motor?
hey bro I really want to buy one and probly will in the next day where did you buy yours what brand is it I just want to make sure I buy one that will last me and is not crap I'm try to get a 49cc or 48cc
Where'd you get that sprocket adaptor? Seems like that would be essential to any build. Also, I motorized a mountain bike and all I can say is you cannot go wrong going that way. The dual shock forks are excellent for road absorption and there are just so many more options. I run a 2 stroke and I'm probably at about 700 miles. There are carb issues at first but it's resolved now but once tuned, fantastic gas mileage and just overall just a fun build.
If you go mmbikeparts.com (Manic Mechanic) that's where I get the sprocket adapters from. Although mountain bike hubs are different diameters than on a single speed beach cruiser. For a mountain bike I would actually recommend going to Sick Bike Parts and looking in to a shift kit instead so you can utilize the gears for better torque, top speed, and gas mileage. Glad to hear that your build is working well for you! Keep me updated on what you decide to do next please!
Where did you get your motorcycle kit
is your bolt missing on your springer fork
I am looking at the SURLY TROLL standard build with Avid BB7, Cable actuated. 180/160mm rotors front & rear Disc brakes,
and THIS (4-stroke, CVT) motor kit, exactly as you have configured it, AS WELL AS ...
A Clean Republic Hilltopper electric Hub, with a long range battery.
... The TROLL can take fat tires and has races, bosses and dropouts for anything
you might want to do. ... The Hilltopper is a front wheel hub kit.
Hello! I would make sure of your dimensions on the Surly bike you sent a link to. From the frame design I saw on the site it looked too small with that design to house a 4-stroke engine. I haven't done a lot of research on doubling up gas and electric power on one bike before. Normally it's either one or the other. Although it sounds like you have one wicked build planned out for sure. Like I said though double check the dimensions on the frame which you should be able to take a 9" wide by 10" tall piece of cardboard and put it level inside the frame. Please keep me updated on this build and send pictures as this sounds so cool!
Sinister Custom Cycles Right. The tubes are chromoly and not too fat but, yeah, the space inside the triangle may not allow clearance. ... I am commited to building upon THIS frame, more than going with a particular engine or configuration. ... I am running The Clean Republic Hilltopper kit on my current bike and it will work on ANY 26" or 700C front wheel ... They even have lace-up fits for fatter rims. ... The Troll can take any amount or type of racks and fenders and brakes ... ALL TYPES ... It is designed to be built into ANYTHING. .. But I hear you ... Check all clearances !!
I understand the electric motorized hub is meant to be built on virtually any platform, however it's the clearance inside the frame for the 4-stroke engine you wanted to mount that may pose a challenge, however, if you're extremely careful frames can be modified. Since you have gears on that bike, you have the perfect chance to use a shift kit on there as well to get better mileage, speed, and torque range. Keep me updated and let me know how it's going for you!
Sinister Custom Cycles Yes ... I am currently researching Jack-Shafts and ALSO ... HMMM ... I am looking at running a 1000 Watt eHub and USING A gasoline motor as a GENERATOR, for DIRECT eDrive AND to recharge a SWAPPABLE LiPO battery pack ... Just musing, at this point ... I am also considering a BOB PUSH TRAILER ... I want to make it DIFFICULT for police to recognize the gasoline motor and the BOB Push Trailer is one way to go with HUGE (FAT) Monn Lanfer Tires ... WalMart is now selling Moon-Landers for commodity prices ... Juat one more thought ... I really really want to use a powered configuration for TRUE TOURING on the Texas Gulf Coast (many jurisdictions.) ... I really like using a generator to augment an eHub (and for stealth camping Aux power. ... OR ??? ... Maybe just break down and get a USED KAWASAKI KLR ADVENTURE RIG, for around $4k~$5k ... Hmmmm.
I want LOW COST ... SAFETY ... SUSTAINABILITY ... LOW PROFILE.
I'd like to see one of your bikes in motion. I'd like to hear it. To see a start up. To see a start motion from stop.
Joshua Glover Next spring I'll have a go pro camera that I'll be using for action videos. I chose not to do them thus far because trying to hold a phone while riding would make for a horrible video. Great suggestion though, thank you!
Where can I get a 4 stroke bike what's the name of the website or store.What to look 4 when I buy it what should be with the bike I want my bike to travel long distance and I want something with disk breaks to put the wheels on easier ?
What is the mileage of this and how much cc engine is this
Just a note to anyone considering to motorize a coaster brake bike like this- DON'T DO IT. One day you will need to stop RIGHT NOW- and you will not be able to. You can seriously hurt yourself or worse. 30 mph on the bike in the video is insanity, even 20 is stupid.
You need a bike with min. of 2 "V" brakes, disc brakes are more rain resistant and work well also. coaster brakes are for slow riding- not motorized use. Personally, I am using Puch wheels on my motorbicycle. They are HD and stop well.
Mike
i planned on putting a small 2 stroke on a huffy cruiser that ive built up. it is a coaster bike, with the pedal brakes. so are you saying dont put motors on these bikes? should i save and get a different bike? or could i just convert my bike over to V brakes. it has all the holes and brakes for it.
The only issue is you need brakes that will stop you- the thing the coaster brake will not do. Yes you can add V brakes if the posts are there, but in choosing a bike, why not select one that has the goodies on it to begin with?
There is very little price difference, personally I like mountain bikes with a spring fork, used ones are all over the place too. If you like the style of a coaster bike, how about a Schwinn Jaguar? They have gears too.
My bike has regular v-brakes and it works fine, then again I don't ride mine wide open LOL. I try to keep around 15-18mph on mine and that's plenty fast enough. Seems like mine really likes about 18mph seems like its sweet spot to run. I ride my motorized bike for fun, I'm certainly in no hurry LOL. Its just fun to ride and not have to pedal all the time, although I occasionally shut the engine off and pedal a while.
You still working on bikes? Thinking of doing your build on a Trek Electra Lux 7D.
Is this engine the same one that's being sold on Ebay?
How can i get the adapter that goes in the back wheel please help
Nice Bicycle
Thank you very much! There will be more to come soon! Winter is soon upon me here in Minnesota which sucks for riding, but perfect for building my next creations! Videos should start coming in less than a week.
Where can you purchase the sprocket adapter and sprocket such as you have on your bike? Also, where did you get the update for the crank bearings? Thanks
+Jack Stemple holy cow---they are literally everywhere on the internet
You can find rear brakes that will fit over your rear fender. I've got a Huffy Beach Cruiser with coaster brake and caliper break that fits over the rear fender. There are different sizes, you just have to hunt for the one you need.
As far as the welds on your frame coming undone, FORGET IT! Unless you are riding up and down concrete steps, it ain't gonna happen. I've got a lot cheaper bike than yours and I ride my bikes harder than every body because it's my only transpo. I've saddle bags front and back a 4 stroke engine just like yours, I carry water by the gallons, 10llb. bags of potatoes, you name it, over the roughest streets in the U.S. and for 3 years. No welds have come lose. I've got a hole drilled thru the chainstay for my chain tensioner, to keep it from being pulled over into my spokes and it's still just as sound as the day I bought it. And I weigh 200lbs. I don't know what those guys are doing to bust welds. They must be racing up and down steps is all I can figure.
DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT get on your bike again before you get another brake. Never ride a motorized bike without more than just a coaster brake. Sooner or later your pedal chain WILL come off and when it does you will be in deep you know what. Take your rear fender off and put a brake back there if you have to.
I've got a 3 speed with NO motor and when I couldn't immediately get a brake big enough to go over the fender, I took the fender off. But I know they have them big enough, because I've got one on my motorize Huffy right now. Have a nice day. One more thing. Keep 50lbs of air especially in the rear tire. Very necessary to your health. Motorized bikes are fun, but it's fun to be seriously watched over.
Maurice Mason why keep the fender off? You CAN put a handle break on and still have your fenders
How fast is it and how much power does it have and can haul
Theres people out there that say these things shouldn't daily driven on walmart frames but I have no problems with it. As long as you dont run them full throttle the entire time you ride you shouldn't have problems till you hit couple thousand miles. I have a friend that has a walmart bike with a little over a thousand miles and its still running strong. Just take care of them and they will take care of you.
Depends on how you ride them, treat it as a motor assisted bike, feather in the engine power after you start off while pedaling, keep your cruise speed down to about ~20 mph, ride smooth and avoid the skid demon. And get a bike with decent front and rear caliper brakes, relying on a rear coaster brake will eventually cause you grief if you really need to stop quick.
Is it still running well today
What was the bearing upgrade?
HEY brother ... what kind of braking system you got on this one. Thank you so much. 😎
wow he literally told you in the video !!
Can you post the link to the spring front end please
is it better to get a gas bike 1st or a 50cc gas scooter i travel 12-14 miles one way to work ?
Your videos have piqued my interest in building an motorized bike. Can you let me know where you bought the kit for your Huntington build? It seems far superior to the cheetah build with the 6" crankshaft and other issues. Thanks for posting and keep up the good work.
littlewilson25 The kit I used on the Huntington build was purchased from GasBike.net about August of 2013 and was the 49cc 4-stroke 4-G belt drive kit. From what I have seen and heard the 4G model was discontinued due to an apparent issue with a one way bearing, which I never had an issue with. Now GasBike is offering a 7G (the 5G sucked & I never even saw the 6G) kit for preorder for $250 for the entire kit. I'm a little worried about the quality on the 7G unless they turned things around and added the heavy duty parts the 4G offered. I would honestly check out the Honda GHX50 with an EZM drive combo, it costs a lot more ($840), but you get what you pay for. If I don't go with the horizontal 4-stroke, I'll definitely be going with the Honda set up this time around. I'll have another video coming out soon, probably within about 2 weeks! Thanks for the support and compliments! Keep me updated on your build!
Is there a way to keep from tightening the screws all the time if you have to ride or keep from losing any of the parts off the bike?
Blue loctite.
@@skrimpshidy thank you
Use grade 8 fasteners, and grease lightly with a high quality, non fibrous bearing grease.
Wow! Your located in Minnesota? Me too and I own a bike like this exept 2 stroke
I’m looking at the hueshang 53cc.
~$250 skiptooth
~$500 wheel set (drums)
I want to get a hoop from golden eagle & eliminate the chain but I’m not sure if I can make it work with the 4G transmission. Gonna be a spendthrift build ~2k minimum