Big Big Problems at Juventus [And It's Far From Over]
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- Juventus are in some pretty hot water at the moment. Investigation after investigation from regulatory body after regulatory body- things aren't looking good.
Let's try make sense of it all.
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00:00 - Introduction
02:04 - “Plusvalenca” - Capital gains
08:13 - “Salary Manoeuvres”
10:06 - No more gains
Producer: Tinashe Chipako
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It's "Plusvalenza", you fool 🙄
plusvalenze is the plural
@@yesyes5515
Oooof
😆
It's odd that only Juventus is being in this situation, all clubs do or did it in some degree...then there's the M. City investigation, when other PL clubs have been doing it too...for longer time: Chelsea. And more recently New Castle... where are the investigation?
It's kind of odd that Barcelona is being targeted by la liga president tebas and Juventus being investigated...both clubs founders of the super League, suspicious.
@@karlos777x this is misinformation. Juve was charged for FALSE "Plusvalenze". They did not get the money they claim they received
Souness: All this is clearly pogba's fault
Totally 😂
I plaaaaiiid the game
“And Pogba’s brother was involved too”- Souness
This souness guy seems to have a point
I'm waiting for Souness to blame pogba for liverpools downfall as well😂
I’ve stumbled upon this channel about 2 months ago and I can’t get enough of it now. Keep up the amazing work!
Cheers, Julian!
Me too bro lol
2 billion for Tinashe? That’s a bargain in my eyes!
@Swerv4ever don't give Boehly ideas😂
An entire video on accounting fraud in football. A match made in heaven.
*Subscribes*
this explains why suddenly every club wants 100 million for an attacking player
We're in era where clubs will spend no less than 100M euros for a fucking DM
I Blame the PL as English clubs can throw money on other clubs like it’s nothing
Accounting fraud and football management go hand in hand. FFP has helped shed some light on the issue.
Ffp is the reason clubs have to do it, because ffp is bollocks and was made to protect the elite. Clubs should be allowed to have owner funded systems, you just need to make it an owner deposit and not a loan so the owner can't pull the funds back out this causing the club to liquidate. What other business in the world is anti competitive and doesn't allow the owner to fund their own business for success. What juve did is actually financial doping as they just made up funds through non existent transfer fees.
Nevermind being late to the "Juventus video party", thank you very much for your insight! Very well put together and explained a lot better than most other people did! Looking forward to the Man city one ; ]
Me attending my wedding 🙍
Me attending Juventus' downfall 🤵
Warum zockt der ördl??
I blame the transfer market. It's so volatile. There has to be a method to regulate transfers in a sensible way.
Wasn't expecting a dash of Classic Greek mythology with my dose of football dissection
Give Tinashe the Football RUclips ballond'or already
If Pjanic and Artur deals are problematic, the question should be why isn't Barcelona under investigation? My guess is that La Liga is dependent on Barca and Real, they wouldn't touch them.
cry more
Barcelona is literally blocked by La Liga at every player that they want to sign. They have to go through meticulous processes to prove to La Liga that they can afford a player without exceeding the wage cap imposed by La Liga
You saying that la liga won't touch Barcelona says a lot right now😂
They pass players along in serie a so much to balance things the entire league could be found guilty of similar tactics
According to Transfermarkt (I know, not the most reliable) had their valuations around their transfer fees, and since both players were on long term, high wage contracts, the actual transfer fees aren't that unreasonable. (There was a rumour that Bartomeu used to start bidding at whatever value stated on transfermarkt XD)
"The accountancy is more creative than the midfielders are" 😆😂🤣
PLEASE MAKE VIDEO ABOUT MAN CITY SITUATION 🙏 .
Already mentioned that we should be expecting it. That video will be very interesting
Bro he literally said he was gonna in the video
Superbe ! The problem with Osimnhen transfer is the players (3-4) that were added to the swap with an odd increased value for each of them and now if you look where they went (second teams) its very very strange but now I don't remember the names but it's not hard to find.
Those player involved in Osimhen swap deal never ever set a foot in Lille! However italian Justice is full of Napoli supporters hence they will never ever investigate on that. Please search what stated PM Santoriello, “I hate Juve and I’m Napoli fan. I’m anti-Juve”
Please don’t spread misinformation
@@jacopazzo99 That's exactly what I said these players never even played in the first team ! It's so shady that all eyes are directed to Juve, it's a witch hunt against us what a disgrace.
@@Azzamilano agree 😤
@@jacopazzo99 we got the money, and whatever Lille did with those players is none of our business.
@@mattiaercole 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Things for Juventus just kept getting worse since they changed their logo
One of only a few channels i literally watch EVERY video, as soon, as it comes out. Amazing content. Greetings from germany.
all your videos are always word class. Love the speed of your speech, way you structure the video and overall vibe! keep doing you
We always wait for the videos
you are worth more than 2 billion. Always fun and interesting videos. I thought the italian football was always corrupt.
Aren't man city in a somewhat similar situation? Honest question really.
One of my favorite football channels on RUclips. I've heard about the troubles at Juve but nothing has helped me understand the issue more than you just did. Keep it up bro.
Man I love ❤️ your videos ... can you drop 30 videos at once just this once
We need another like this video, but Man City edition
We have been accused, nothing else.
@@CristanioPeweyyy 😂😂
@@CristanioPeweyyy another deluded City “fan”
@@Lucious_Skywalker Prove to me they cheated.
This is why you don't use your emotions in a debate.
@@CristanioPeweyyy mate, please stop with the projection, everyone knows they’ve been inflating sponsorship revenue since 2010, Football Leaks literally uncovered thousands of documents about it, many of which were vetted by EIC. Stop being delusional, it’s ok to support a club but not support everything they do. The Mancini secret payments were exposed years ago. The inflated sponsorship money is obvious to anyone with half a brain. Do you really think your club was/is more popular than Real Madrid, Barçelona, Man U, etc? Do you really think City having the richest stadium sponsorship in all of sports is legitimate? It’s a richer deal than any NFL team. Honestly, how deluded can you be? And when did you start being a “fan” of City? After 2009, I bet.
your production quality and research are improving. Keep it up!!
Thanks!
im an accounting major and a big football fan. with the added knowledge this is extremely interesting.
Good info, thanks.
Love your vids man
Hearing you pronounce years as “yuurs” is one of my favorite things about your videos
You should do the man city scandal or how chelsea is signing so many players avoiding the ffp.
That intro 😂 great upload, great content!
Juventus really went from ucls to this
And they didnt won any 😂😂
@@andresangarita3165 2 ucls
great video my man, have you considered making a video on maradona ?
i like your content bro, especially your sarcasm
Awesome content
Is what Juve did illegal? Yes
Should they be punished? Yes
Are they the only ones in Europe who do it? No
Should these other clubs be punished? Yes
Anyone who pushes for the Super League definitely does the same tricks its just that they're under someone else's jurisdiction
Love this chanel❤
Can you make on video covering the career of Arda Turan?
Will be waiting for the city one
Another great video
Legendary Content Creator! 🔥🔥
Great video!
Oh my, thank you for the Super Hans meme
Not for inflation of players’ fees but for inflating players’ fees. They are not the same thing
Please explain
Looks like a similar video about Fraud Cbub Barcelona is coming soon (tm) because well, I'm sure you've seen the news by now.
11:00 Inter played the 2020 Europa League Final. That is A European cup, although it's not THE European Cup.
Cool one
Possible a far too simple take, but shouldn't a player's value be whatever the total sum of his remaining wages on his contract is, plus perhaps a 10% markup? this way, clubs would be forced to publicly disclose wages and transfer fees could be governed.
Can't wait for the City vid bro😅
Congrats man ! This video is gold !
i’ve been binging your videos for a couple days now, your content is super interesting and well-produced (and your enunciation is really good, great for multi-tasking while listening 👍) keep up the good work man!!
Will you make a video on the man city situation?
So essentially players are treated as actual assets as per global accounting standards and depreciated over their useful life. The only difference is these assets are extremely subjective in their value and in reality their market value is extremely subjective
3:27 apostrophes don't make words plural
Again a very detailed video.. Keep up the good work bro.. love from bangladesh.
Bruv your content is top. More stuff like this is important for football
Please make video on son- hueng- men
Great research and analysis as always
i work in public accounting and loving this type of content. keep it up!
As a Juventus fan, I don't know what to do.
I am honestly ashamed to say to people I am a Juventus fan, but on the other hand I still love the club.
Cheers from The Netherlands
I feel the same way dude. Unfortunately the communities i see are so polarized and they shame me for expressing my disappointment. I feel the club was mismanaged for years before this. The logo change sanitizing the culture for a marketable brand, cr7 (hes made me a huge fan of him but it affected the club massively) pirlos appointment. I've just felt jaded last few years and now this. All these injuries Allegriball it's just cmon they dont make it easy for us
Not learned anything from calciopoli. Trying to cheat with salary and buy/sell. Even though other do the same just don't follow them. Our highest signing are questionable, c ronaldo, higuain, arthur, de ligt. Why spending so much when we can nurture some youngster. Seeing miretti, fagioli, and kean as a future backbone is fun. We still lack prospect in defense and goalie.
@@lordfizzz what do you mean about cr7 ?
As a Juventus fan you're the least informed one.
Look for the comment of Marco Jj here!!
Disinformation rules.
Be proud of Juventus FC.
Always.
We have all the institutions against us.
Just answer to one question.
WHAT DID JUVENTUS DO?
Did you understand it?
Juventus violated NO RULE.
@@marcogattafoni6193 you're a sheep blindly following your shepherd
I feel like I know this tinashe, studied with one who looked very similar few years back
You say that it's odd that Juventus get singled out again when so many teams use this accounting trick: the reason why they've been found out it's because Juventus is a publicly listed company, and they are scrutinised in Italy by consob, the regulatory body for the Italian stock exchange, and they don't mess around with murky accounting. All the other teams involved are private companies, and do not adhere to financial rules as strict as Juventus.
Also as an Italian it's laughable to hear gazzetta dello sport referred to as a highly prestigious newspaper: it's notoriously a click bait website, no one takes them seriously.
that "five bucks... on a good day" caught me off man xddd
Juventus being one of the main forces behind the Superleague can't be a coincidence
Love this channel
They should make Nedved give up his Ballon d'Or to Thierry Henry
I'm not going to lie, it really sucks seeing Juve going down like this ONCE AGAIN...
I will still support my team as i have always done.
Good video man, always enjoy seeing u on my home page!
Not related to the video but i’m guessing the next one is about City?
One of your best videos tbh. Great work!
Hope it goes the same for man city
Please what movie is 8:55 ?
2:32 We could have witnessed this monster transfer if it wasn't for Tinashe tearing his ACL
please can you make a video on jay jay okocha
Nah you didn’t just go for the skype ringtone. Those were the days...
Fyi is “plusvalenZa”, not “plusvalenCa”
Great channel; subscribed 😀⚽️
Not bad... !!!
How about a collaboration with @FNG
This is great 😂
please make a video about r9
Iconic regularly uploading! Fuck yes!
10:58 Roma?
In italian is plusvalenZa
You have to do a video on Man City!
As an Italian it is hard to hear what people say about our league so often. As a Juve fan this hurts… but is sort of expected? It hurts a lot though. That being said, with the champions league I am now behind Napoli all the way! They’re huge.
QUANTO GODO FALLITE E ORA TIFATE PER NOI OLE OLEEE OLEEE FORZA NAPOLI VINCERAI E LO JUVENTINO SPACCHERAI OLEEE OLEEEE
napoli will have more ucl than you this century ahahahha juve merda
You are not a Juve supporter. Stop lying about it.
If you're italian and a juventus fan you should know this video is the worst piece of news on juventus ever collected.
An Italian club... Embroiled in a scandal?
Say word...
Juventus and scams are a better love story than twilight 😂
my boi it’s “plusvalenza”
Let's face it. Most clubs do this. Like Shaktar Donetsk selling Mudryk for 90 million. We all know he isn't worth that much
Amortization is literally just cooking the books. I'm not sure why it's legal.
man city saw Juve's -15 and said Hold my Non-Alcoholic Beer
Isnt juventus rich like PSG city newcastle etc ?
Juventus are rich but nowhere near "owned by an oil state" rich
15 point deduction for Derby it is
10:57 AS Roma winning the Conference League last season...? :D
Not the European Cup
@@FootballIconic Huh? There is the Champions League, the Europa League, and the Conference League. All of those are "European Cups", there are three European Cup club competitions. Calling the CL "the European Cup" is incorrect as it gives the wrong impression that there is only one European Cup.
@Mr. Reese the Champions league used to be called the "European Cup" (up until 1992). When people refer to the European Cup, it's typically the Champions league
@@FootballIconic I have never heard of this to be honest. Granted my native language is German and in German the CL predecessor was called "Europapokal der Landesmeister", which roughly translates to "European National Champions Cup" (the cup of the champions of their respective leagues).
I looked this up right now and wikipedia says it was called "European Champion Clubs' Cup" in English as well (it even says so in French on the trophy itself). Only colloquially or as an abbreviation for the quite long name it was called "European Cup", but that was not its official name.
@@MrReeseEuropean cup was used quite a lot in england, thats why ig.
pogba should've stayed at utd, would've loved to see him play under ten hagg
Now imagine if La Liga n the FA were half as strict wit City n Barcalona like italian football are wit Juve
Juventus deserve their punishment, but we can all be sure that this is only the tip of the iceberg
mate, do you know even where italy is?
Looks like Man City is next?
That intro really got me 😂
Think city have done some of the same things. They should be relegated and transfer ban for 5years. This will be a lesson to the rest of the clubs.
As Mourinho put it: "Football heritage."
Very information. Larry David reference also contributed to me clicking the Like button