After a year of research i went with framework 13 amd. Never been happier about a laptop. Everything including hinges, screen, bezel, mainboard, keyboard, battery etc can be replaced, upgraded, etc.
@LCJammer i agree. The 16 inch cost proposition is not great. I was shocked by the performance of 780m in the 13 inch. Able to game fine with an igpu including starfield, cyberpunk, bg3. I dont think i will go back to a dpgu.
For anyone looking to buy a macbook. If you are a student in engineering, avoid macbooks, it’s good enough for programming and webdev but not as good for simulation and circuit design. Especially since it doesn’t support most major softwares. Even if it supports any, it’s difficult to find pirated versions when necessary.
@@elysiaaaan0303 get anything your budget gets you honestly. If you are studying engineering, definitely opt for gaming laptops though. Make sure your RAM >= 16GB, SSD >= 512 and also make sure your processor is higher than 12th gen. If you get anything lower than those then trust me, you will try to upgrade very soon. You can get lower RAM and SSD but make sure that they are upgradable. Just get an overall reliable laptop. In midrange, most stuff you find will have issues though. I recommend you go for second hand laptops or laptops from older generation. Don’t go lower than 12th gen processors for intel or 5000 processors for AMD. Even better to get 13th intel or >5000 amd too. I can’t give you specific models since I haven’t looked at new options but if you do go to look at laptops, consider those specs.
@@elysiaaaan0303framework 13 is pretty good with the igpu, and the 16 isn’t as good for price to performance, but you will save money in the long term due to how modular it is.
@@elysiaaaan0303 ideapad pro 5 with 4050 7840hs is good if u dont want a bulky laptop and comparatively lightweight one. but i would recommend you to go for legion slim 7 amd 7840hs with 4060. it is available around 1300 on sale but its 2.1kg in weight. g14 2024 is good too but u need to pay 1900 for 32gb ram model 💀
True, but then ask yourself, how long will this laptop stay with me? 1? 2? 3 years? You should ask yourself that because at least for me when I purchased a laptop it stays as long as I can, unless a specific need arise. Because I don't want to disturb my focus.
I don't believe someone will stay with a computer for 8 years, but the point is it has to satisfy your needs follow that works like a charm as well during such a time.@@seedad117
This year Lenovo and Asus dominated. I noticed a shift in the kind of youtube tech-sphere, where a few years ago reviewers focused on/ covered more business oriented devices, like Thinkpad, Elitebook, etc. where in particular this year it was for the most part Multimedia/gaming Laptops. I'm wondering if this is, that creators realized the youtube audience is more interested in these type of devices, or changed the interests towards these devices? Or is it, that business features like vPro, smartcard, etc. are becoming less relevant in the business sphere? Certainly gaming laptops don't look as "gamery" anymore and you nowadays probably wouldn't ridicule yourself bringing say a Lenovo Legion laptop into a meeting, compared to some chunky jet-engine fan RGB-fest monstrosity from the past. Seems like current Laptops more than ever are fit for all use-cases. These days you can have a good Laptop with decent portability, battery-life and (gaming-) performance all in the same device.
and with the advent of ARM based chips for windows devices the future looks crazy(imagine playing gta 6 with ray tracing on a macbook like thin laptop)
@@themonkeyman2790 I really hope they can counter the M3 here. It is the much better combo of efficiency, battery life and Performance. And it can even play Baldurs Gate or Cyberpunk
And it changes so fast too. I remember in 2016 acer have to released a 8.5 kg, 6.8 cm thick laptop with SLI and subwoofers just to get on par with high end pc at that time. Now we can have almost the same power of a high end pc specs on a laptop that's barely 2 cm thick and weigh less than 2 kg
The problem with these dedicated business grade laptops is that they are so overpriced and just lack in terms of features in general. Most of lenovo's business grade laptops are limited to plastic builds, dim , low colour accuracy displays and laughable battery capacity and averagish battery backup. The designs are also very outdated, the trackpad and thick bezels especially. These all are individually not that important but when u pay 1000 usd + u expect these and the one with these seems like a better deal. Unless ofc ur organisation requires u to have a smartcard reader or vpro system etc
That's because Lenovo and Asus has a great balance of everything. Software, hardware, design, performance and price. Lenovo also has a bunch of discounts and offers. I personally got my Legion 5 Pro with a monitor, mouse, headset and backpack for $1 each. That's an entire setup with my laptop for $4 and it's not in USD, so a little less than US$1. Meanwhile MSI has some build quality issues thought can be found at affordable prices and Acer still has the bulky gamer design unless it's their Triton laptops which not alot of reviewers talk about, possibly because other options are better.
I just picked up a Dell XPS 15 (i7, 32GB RAM, RTX 4050) and have been blown away. I'm coming from a 2021 MacBook Pro 16" and am super super impressed by this laptop. I never thought I'd find a Windows laptop of comparable quality to a MacBook, but this one takes the cake.
Just grabbed the Lenovo Slim 7 Pro X over the holidays, the touch, 1TB, 16GB upgraded Win 11 Pro. Ryzen CPU + RTX 3050 MAXQ gpu. Slim and excellent build quality. Very impressed. If you are in the market for a productivity laptop but still can do some 3D stuff. Hard to not take a look under $799
@@michaelgathemia I'm probably going to get mine from Best buy or b&h photo. Those are the cheapest prices I've found yet (started shopping a week ago)
I’m interested in this one. Would you recommend if I have to do some art&graphic design (illustrator, photoshop, clip studio), video editing (after effects), but also want to play high graphics games like Resident evil, the last of us, etc.? I’ve never owned a laptop before and don’t know much about it…
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Great summary video! Personally I ended up buying the legion slim 7i and I absolutely love it! It’s a great combination of gaming and productivity that works really well for me
Does it hold up to your expectations? Also does it still perform as expected after a few months? I've had a laptop in the past and it worked great out of the box but didn't really stay healthy for a while to justify its price
@@arcjelly I haven’t noticed any real issues or downgrades in performance, it still works very well for all my daily work and gaming. It’s been about 11 months and legitimately everything works great. I’ve had no software issues for the last few months, and performance remains great
@@Valdiant it depends. When it’s plugged in and you’re doing productivity tasks, it will have very low fan noise and get slightly warm. When it’s not plugged in it’s very quiet and even less heat. When you’re gaming and maxing out fps, the fans can get quite loud (to the point where you can really use speakers). But if you game at 1080p or use dlss upscaling, it can even be quite quiet during gaming, but of course it still gets a little warm
I got my AMD Framework 13 a couple of months ago, and I'm really loving it. It might not be for everyone - the touchpad is definitely a step down from a MacBook, but it does everything I need and does it well.
@@ethernet764 yes, I am a software engineer in my day job, and I also do some open source work on the side. My employer provides a macbook for my day job, the framework laptop is for my side projects. (And everything else - email, RUclips, etc.)
Had to return my Yoga Pro 9i 14.5" rtx 4050 because it had some weird performance issues that I couldn't figure out... Just ordered the Slim 7 Pro X with R7 + RTX 3050 and 32gb ram instead, hoping it'll be decent for a smaller price 😊
They are fundamentally different architectures, ARM and x86. Windows will not support ARM chips natively for the foreseeable future, and even if it does, it will lose performance in the process of translating instructions. If Qualcomm want to compete they have to create a hardware translation layer to help execute x86 instructions, which is how the Apple M chips work with Rosetta 2.
managed to get a Lenovo Slim 7 Yoga with a Ryzen 5 7640S and I gotta say its one of the best laptops ive used and have pretty long battery life regardless of brightness, hz etc
Correction: the 999 usd version of the zenbook 14x with the i7 13700h DOES NOT come with an rtx 3050. It comes with iris xe. The 1400 usd 14x with the i9 comes with the rtx 3050.
True, but for office productivities in non-stem fields it is fine. Not everyone is a video/photo editor. Far more office administrators, inventory managers, insurance underwriters, and accountants running around.
@@akin242002 That's besides the point. Getting the product specs correct is like a bare minimum for a video about laptops. Especially when the difference between a 3050 and Iris is massive.
I have selected three laptops for video editing that fall under my budget. One is Dell inspiron 16" 2 in 1, I7 1360P, 16 GB RAM, no dedicated graphics card. Second one is Lenovo LOQ 15" with AMD Ryzen 7 7840 HS processor, Ram 16 GB DDR5 with dedicated graphics card RTX 4050 GPU 6GB GDDR6 Third one is Lenovo LOQ 16" Intel I7 13620 H Processor, 16 Gb ram Ddr5, and dedicated graphics card RTX 4050 GPU 6GB GDDR6 Can you suggest which one to use for video editing?
@@GrimAbstractdamn, I'm in a dilemma. In a week, I have to make a decision on which laptop to get, and I'm torn between getting the Lenovo legion slim 5 14 oled, or the sleeker razer blade 15 oled (2022 // 3070 Ti). I love the sleekness of the razer, but I think the legion would give me more raw power. HELPPP LOL
@@GrimAbstract Good thing speakers are the least important aspect of a laptop for most people, since serious consumption of media or gaming on laptops is usually done with headphones or IEMs.
@@SirDuksalot how do you feel about the g14 bro? that's the one I decided to stay with, and I absolutely love it. I feel like its the perfect middle ground from razer and lenovo, and the battery is actually pretty good for a gaming laptop, I get around 8 hours on this thing watching youtube and doing work ( google docs and apps like word or excel)
@@Gambit33 I mean I guess for you, I do not like carrying around my $600 headphones to work meetings and the like, but having a decent speaker at that price point is not hard. My iPhone sounds %100 better, idk why Lenovo always slack on the speaker, they even did the same with the legion go.
I’ve recently bought the Razer blade 16 and I couldn’t be happier about the purchase. Such a performance with a decent battery life (obviously not great) and nice temps.
I have the surface laptop studio two and it has been great. It performs well, runs Windows 11 smoothly, and has a good battery life... Not as good as MacBook would have, but definitely can get you through the day.
@@boo9596 So I code mostly ML stuff using Conda and browse the web. I do game sometimes but it needs to be plugged in to have the best performance. I have the 4060 and runs all the triple A games easily. Strongly recommend getting one.
5:08 I'm so glad you mention this, a lot of reviwers seem to ignore this huge issue. Selling you 8 GB of RAM in 2023... like I got my base MacBook Pro Retina in 2014 with 8 GB of RAM. This is not ok, Apple!
In may i bought the top-spec flow x16 with the 4070 and the HDR screen. It's perfect. It can do everything. Performs well, is thin, is a 2 in 1, has an amazing screen, types nice, good build quality, very good optimization and quiet when you need it to be. Battery life is also really long if you use armoury crate correctly.
I was waiting for this comment. I bought mine a month ago cuz it seems like the perfect all in 1. My only problems is my battery life is horrible, I can only get like 3 hours of watching youtube at lowest brightness on performance and also it's very slow on tablet mode for me idk why
would you recommend the Gigabyte Aero 16 the specs are: i9-12900H 2.5GHz 32GB nRam 2TB SSD NVMe 16″ 4K+ (3840×2400) AMOLED NVIDIA RTX 3080 Ti 16GB for $1879 price aside, would you recommend it for a graphic designer that does 3D animation on Adobe After Effects
I bought a slim pro 9i last week and watch out for quality control issues. I gave mine back for a screen issue, even though everything was literally perfect (except the battery life sucked)
I really wanted to oled screens that the Asus work books have, personally they work better than the nebula hdr displays! But that doesn't mean they are bad. I went for the Asus scar 16 4080 for the hdr screen..Will have to skip on a pc build for an year or 2..but then I'm going for those qdoled monitors
Pepole sleeping on the Asus flow x16... i guess the reason is that its a little overpriced but its hands down one of the more complete packeges u can get in a laptop
Bought Legion Pro 5i with i9 and 4070 for myself from a near by electronics shop on Black Friday and I think it was a very good deal for the money I used to it. Been very satisfied with it overall. One thing is that it's very loud when used in performance mode but can't really complain about that since it's a laptop and it's not like 4k priced one.
On the Asus laptop did you make a mistake? The $999 laptop, the one pictured doesnt come with a 3050... The version that cones with a 3050 is $1500 and has a different charging port and brick from what Ive seen.
Damn I wish you did this earlier for the sales and boxday sales lmao. Luckily for me I watched some of your previous videos and saw the G14. Best Buy though literally had a deal for it running since Tuesday and I picked it up. Actually it is still going so anyone looking for a good deal on the G14 (4060 variant) it is only $1100 ($500 off). Great video of course.
So I have the 2023 Asus G14 with the 4090 GPU, I am loving it so far but I noticed when gaming it doesn't feel as smooth as my PS5 like for example when I play rocket League the fps counter shows I'm playing at 165 fps but during gameplay I can feel some micro stutters any recommendations on how to fix this?
@@edwincuret2289 Would need more info to assist you on this, the 4090 is a beast and is way more powerful than a ps5. What mode are you gaming on? Silent, balanced or turbo?
@@edwincuret2289 rocket league is a very easy game to run so there shouldn't be any stutters, i'd say check your gpu drivers and windows updates if they are up to date, and if nothing changes search online to see if anyone has the same issue
@@edwincuret2289are you playing with the laptop screen or external monitor? Try enabling/disabling VSYNC, or in Armoury Crate change the setting to performance or turbo
@@edwincuret2289 I have no issues on Rocket League, it's the game I play the most. So I'd guess it's a driver issue or maybe you have a faulty power brick supplying the laptop?
Great video bro... Well informed and put together nicely...i also love your car wallpapers as a car guy myself i love you see that you're into cars also... My favourite was the initial d wallpaper👌🏾
for me, the best laptop this year is Lenovo Legion 7i Pro, with i9 13900HX and RTX4090 graphics card... great performance, temperatures are not high in any mode, the screen is great, I just don't have a single complaint about the laptop... great gaming or work machine...
@@jtomtl Horrible assessment. Dell XPS 17 is for non-software engineers. Civil engineers, Mechanical engineers, or Automotive engineers. Lenovo ThinkPad T14/P14 series for programming with C#. I do agree that the Dell XPS 15 QC issues make it not worth the purchase.
@@akin242002 lol, go ahead, buy the 17 inch then, same crap, don’t give me that engineers IT crap, I am talking about the average consumer. Dell is not worth the price
@@jtomtl For the non-engineers, there are many less expensive quality options than a Dell XPS 15 or 17. Acer Nitro 5 for gaming, Lenovo ThinkPad T14 G3 for general office productivity, or the M2 MacBook Air 13/15 inch. All 3 you cannot go wrong for those specific purposes.
I don't get why people dislike AMD naming so much. Intel literally reused dies of previous generations and you can't know that from the name. AMD gives you a new SoC, often on a new node, using zen 2 or 3, and tells your right there on the name it's the case. I think it's much better.
I had a legion growing up. He will definitely like it. Depending on his needs and the sepcs it may not be the perfect laptop, but I rather have a modern gaming laptop then no laptop anyday... I tried using just a Ipad for two years. It was not fun.
I love PCs and have been an enthusiast for a long time. But I can't deny that no one makes such a good portable experience as the m series macbooks, they lose on spec sheets but are insane in actual use.
@@eladbari I can't speak on what industry your work is in, but for my line of work every single software are both windows mac. And most of them actually work better on a lower powered mac than my high end pc.
As someone who has been using an ASUS 2-in-1 ultrabook style laptop for about 7 years now, I was really hoping for more more 2-in-1 recommendations in the best laptops lists T_T
12:47 Inaccurate. The 4090 model cost scales proportionally with the performance it offers. When you add the increased power and thermal efficiency to the mix, the 4090 becomes the value king of the lineup. It will use up to half the power for the same performance of the 4060 and at the same time will be cooler per wat due to over double the die surface area. This is of outmost importance for a small laptop.
A lot of these videos sing the praises of the Slim Pro 9i, but the 16" version has some serious issues that are often glossed over: bad ports (no HDMI 2.1) and very bad battery life. If not for those missteps it would be almost perfect. The 14.5" version is better, but, unfortunately, it's hard to use a screen that size for a primary work/productivity machine.
I'm looking for a new laptop primarily for watching movies, RUclips and general browsing. And maybe very light gaming (Hearthstone). I have a desktop 4090 rig for proper gaming so I don't need powerful graphics. Main priority is the display quality so I've been looking at the OLED Vivobooks/Zenbooks. I also want a 16"+ screen. What do you recommend?
Ultra efficient laptops can do passive cooling, but there's still a tradeoff under load (as evidenced by fanless Apple silicon Macbook Airs vs Macbook Pros). This is where I'm hoping cooling tech like the AirJet can scale up, though, in the near future.
Cooling doesn’t fix the root and larger issue, which is power consumption. These non-ARM machines are fast plugged in but barely last a few hours when on whisper mode running at 50 percent performance or less. We need a laptop that lasts all day, if my phone needed to be charged every day at lunch I would throw it out.
I'm looking for a laptop for my engineering studies with these requirements: - Well-known brand - Gaming processor with a professional look - Dedicated graphics card for engineering tasks, coding, editing, and light gaming - Microsoft Student lifetime - 16GB RAM (expandable) - 512GB SSD (expandable) - Metal or aluminum body - Good battery life - Latest generation components - Future-proof - Average-sized screen for daily use and portability - Budget of around 60-63k
Lenovo Legion Slim 5 Rtx 4060 16Gb ram 512ssd Intel I5 13500H - 1140 euro Slim 5 Rtx 4060 16Gb ram 512ssd Ryzen 7840HS - 1265 Euro Legion 5 Pro Rtx 4060 32Gb ram 1Tb ssd I5 13500HX - 1465 Euro 5Pro Rtx 4060 32Gb ram 1Tb ssd Ryzen 7745HX - 1485 Euro What to choose as my first gaming laptop that i want to keep for many years? for best cooling and most silent?
I'm starting my career at Cybersecurity as a Digital Forensics Assistant, which laptop will be best to go for, I'm currently using a gaming laptop but as you all know battery backup sucks and its fan noise is so disturbing. I took suggestions from my collogues some suggests mac and some windows. So which should I go for and if you have laptop name in your mind please reply me.
He knows that. All these RUclips keep acting like Asus laptops all u Ave mini led. The only way to get a mini led Asus laptop is to spend like 2600 to 3600 and 2600 is rare. This guy knows the one on sale for 1r00 isn't mini led he not an idiot. Just a liar. Kinda like the g14 that people say is the best 14 inch it's not unless you want to spend 3200 dollars to get the mini led version. Other then that the Lenovo legion 5 slim 14 is better in every way and especially the display since it's an old and the g14 is a ips.
Wait, why are you recommending the Asus ROG Strix Scar 17!? It has a dated design with a 16 : 9 screen, and when you open the bottom, good luck not breaking the ribbon cables.
I would still consider the m1 MacBook Air as one of the best budget laptops. It’s 3 years old but still offers plenty of performance for video editing , music production work and anything a student would need , it’s also only $750
I think the hp pavilion 14 plus with 7840u is its closest competitor. Testing from several outlets have it trading blows with m2 on performance and efficiency. Not to mention it comes with an oled panel, 16 gigs of ram, and 780m igpu. I think its the sleeper hit of 2023. It goes on sale for 750 on hp website or 620 on Costco website. Feels like an intentional positioning by HP @@ZhuJo99
are those Asus Zenbook 14x OLED laptops available in Europe? While they do look very interesting, if I can find them they are very expensive (around 2500USD with dedicated graphics) and not even with the right kind of keyboard (only German, not Swiss). I went with a Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 with an AMD 7845S, 3k 90Hz OLED Screen, 32GB RAM and a very fast 1TB SSD for about 1100CHF (around 1300 USD). I couldn't find anything close to that in value in a thin an light. A MB Air 15" with 24GB and 1TB is almost twice as expensive and I'm stuck with 1TB forever... Maybe this perspective helps some international viewers, I feel this video sadly doesn't apply internationally.
Hey, I just had a question. Uh I really want to get the legion slim 7i for gaming, but gaming won’t be the only thing I’m gonna be doing. I’m also going to be coding. Do you think it is possible for me to do both on one laptop? Please answer quickly and thank you for the video (also I’m not a bot)
I bought an Asus G14 last year, and I loved the portability and the performance. Unfortunately, there was one very serious downside: it got so hot and loud while gaming that I couldn't stand it. There is a reason why very few gaming laptops exist in this small, 14" form factor. It's almost impossible to dissipate the heat from such a small case without making a huge amount of fan noise. However, Lenovo have given it a try, and the reviews I have heard say it has solved the cooling problem that made return the G14. I have ordered a Lenovo Legion Slim 5 14, and will evaluate it when it arrives in a couple of days.
@@SatanDotExeThat's a super important question. What GFX card was on that G14. The same guy above updated on other cases that he prefers the Legion over the G14. That it performa much better
After a year of research i went with framework 13 amd. Never been happier about a laptop. Everything including hinges, screen, bezel, mainboard, keyboard, battery etc can be replaced, upgraded, etc.
I agree. Best 13 inch laptop imo.
13 is fine if you just need a basic laptop. their 16 inch models are kind of a rip off when adding the dedicated gpu module.
@LCJammer i agree. The 16 inch cost proposition is not great. I was shocked by the performance of 780m in the 13 inch. Able to game fine with an igpu including starfield, cyberpunk, bg3. I dont think i will go back to a dpgu.
@@LCJammer There will be new GPUs. You may want to wait for them. For me, as a Linux user, there really wasn't any other option in the US.
Has how the day to day experience been so far? I've been considering the 13 with one of the AMD chips.
For anyone looking to buy a macbook. If you are a student in engineering, avoid macbooks, it’s good enough for programming and webdev but not as good for simulation and circuit design. Especially since it doesn’t support most major softwares. Even if it supports any, it’s difficult to find pirated versions when necessary.
What would you recommend that's not very expensive
@@elysiaaaan0303 get anything your budget gets you honestly. If you are studying engineering, definitely opt for gaming laptops though.
Make sure your RAM >= 16GB, SSD >= 512 and also make sure your processor is higher than 12th gen. If you get anything lower than those then trust me, you will try to upgrade very soon. You can get lower RAM and SSD but make sure that they are upgradable. Just get an overall reliable laptop. In midrange, most stuff you find will have issues though.
I recommend you go for second hand laptops or laptops from older generation. Don’t go lower than 12th gen processors for intel or 5000 processors for AMD. Even better to get 13th intel or >5000 amd too.
I can’t give you specific models since I haven’t looked at new options but if you do go to look at laptops, consider those specs.
@@elysiaaaan0303framework 13 is pretty good with the igpu, and the 16 isn’t as good for price to performance, but you will save money in the long term due to how modular it is.
Can confirm. The only ones I could find were matlab and ltspice. No proteus, avr studio, or any of the plethora of softwares mostly used in design
@@elysiaaaan0303 ideapad pro 5 with 4050 7840hs is good if u dont want a bulky laptop and comparatively lightweight one. but i would recommend you to go for legion slim 7 amd 7840hs with 4060. it is available around 1300 on sale but its 2.1kg in weight. g14 2024 is good too but u need to pay 1900 for 32gb ram model 💀
1500$ is not cheap at all
True, but then ask yourself, how long will this laptop stay with me? 1? 2? 3 years? You should ask yourself that because at least for me when I purchased a laptop it stays as long as I can, unless a specific need arise. Because I don't want to disturb my focus.
@@IT_with_GlitchHonesty it should hold for 8 years at least
I don't believe someone will stay with a computer for 8 years, but the point is it has to satisfy your needs follow that works like a charm as well during such a time.@@seedad117
@@seedad117 For me $1500 should be about 5 years, but yeah computers can get expensive
@@seedad117only laptops realistically lasting that long with decent performance are macs
This year Lenovo and Asus dominated.
I noticed a shift in the kind of youtube tech-sphere, where a few years ago reviewers focused on/ covered more business oriented devices, like Thinkpad, Elitebook, etc. where in particular this year it was for the most part Multimedia/gaming Laptops.
I'm wondering if this is, that creators realized the youtube audience is more interested in these type of devices, or changed the interests towards these devices?
Or is it, that business features like vPro, smartcard, etc. are becoming less relevant in the business sphere?
Certainly gaming laptops don't look as "gamery" anymore and you nowadays probably wouldn't ridicule yourself bringing say a Lenovo Legion laptop into a meeting, compared to some chunky jet-engine fan RGB-fest monstrosity from the past.
Seems like current Laptops more than ever are fit for all use-cases. These days you can have a good Laptop with decent portability, battery-life and (gaming-) performance all in the same device.
and with the advent of ARM based chips for windows devices the future looks crazy(imagine playing gta 6 with ray tracing on a macbook like thin laptop)
@@themonkeyman2790 I really hope they can counter the M3 here. It is the much better combo of efficiency, battery life and Performance. And it can even play Baldurs Gate or Cyberpunk
And it changes so fast too. I remember in 2016 acer have to released a 8.5 kg, 6.8 cm thick laptop with SLI and subwoofers just to get on par with high end pc at that time.
Now we can have almost the same power of a high end pc specs on a laptop that's barely 2 cm thick and weigh less than 2 kg
The problem with these dedicated business grade laptops is that they are so overpriced and just lack in terms of features in general. Most of lenovo's business grade laptops are limited to plastic builds, dim , low colour accuracy displays and laughable battery capacity and averagish battery backup. The designs are also very outdated, the trackpad and thick bezels especially. These all are individually not that important but when u pay 1000 usd + u expect these and the one with these seems like a better deal. Unless ofc ur organisation requires u to have a smartcard reader or vpro system etc
That's because Lenovo and Asus has a great balance of everything. Software, hardware, design, performance and price.
Lenovo also has a bunch of discounts and offers. I personally got my Legion 5 Pro with a monitor, mouse, headset and backpack for $1 each. That's an entire setup with my laptop for $4 and it's not in USD, so a little less than US$1.
Meanwhile MSI has some build quality issues thought can be found at affordable prices and Acer still has the bulky gamer design unless it's their Triton laptops which not alot of reviewers talk about, possibly because other options are better.
I just picked up a Dell XPS 15 (i7, 32GB RAM, RTX 4050) and have been blown away. I'm coming from a 2021 MacBook Pro 16" and am super super impressed by this laptop. I never thought I'd find a Windows laptop of comparable quality to a MacBook, but this one takes the cake.
Just grabbed the Lenovo Slim 7 Pro X over the holidays, the touch, 1TB, 16GB upgraded Win 11 Pro. Ryzen CPU + RTX 3050 MAXQ gpu. Slim and excellent build quality. Very impressed. If you are in the market for a productivity laptop but still can do some 3D stuff. Hard to not take a look under $799
Was it a discount sale? Microcenter or Amazon?
@@michaelgathemia I'm probably going to get mine from Best buy or b&h photo. Those are the cheapest prices I've found yet (started shopping a week ago)
@@michaelgathemia best buy
@@timothystevenhoward Yep. Even that Asus Zenbook 14X was 30% off!
I’m interested in this one. Would you recommend if I have to do some art&graphic design (illustrator, photoshop, clip studio), video editing (after effects), but also want to play high graphics games like Resident evil, the last of us, etc.? I’ve never owned a laptop before and don’t know much about it…
why are here only bots :(
Idk man but it's 1.45 am rn and I'm watching this rn
It’s free promotion on the RUclips algorithm at least for canucks
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Great summary video! Personally I ended up buying the legion slim 7i and I absolutely love it! It’s a great combination of gaming and productivity that works really well for me
Does it hold up to your expectations? Also does it still perform as expected after a few months? I've had a laptop in the past and it worked great out of the box but didn't really stay healthy for a while to justify its price
@@arcjelly I haven’t noticed any real issues or downgrades in performance, it still works very well for all my daily work and gaming. It’s been about 11 months and legitimately everything works great. I’ve had no software issues for the last few months, and performance remains great
@@sarthak-ti This is a very important question for me. Is it loud and does it get hot fast?
@@Valdiant it depends. When it’s plugged in and you’re doing productivity tasks, it will have very low fan noise and get slightly warm. When it’s not plugged in it’s very quiet and even less heat. When you’re gaming and maxing out fps, the fans can get quite loud (to the point where you can really use speakers). But if you game at 1080p or use dlss upscaling, it can even be quite quiet during gaming, but of course it still gets a little warm
@@sarthak-tiwhat kind of games do you run on it? Does it handle small scale to triple A games well? What are your settings you mainly play on
$999 for "students who don't want to break the bank"... this is fucked up man.
I got my AMD Framework 13 a couple of months ago, and I'm really loving it.
It might not be for everyone - the touchpad is definitely a step down from a MacBook, but it does everything I need and does it well.
What do you need it for if you don’t mind sharing? Are you a software engineer?
@@ethernet764 yes, I am a software engineer in my day job, and I also do some open source work on the side. My employer provides a macbook for my day job, the framework laptop is for my side projects. (And everything else - email, RUclips, etc.)
Had to return my Yoga Pro 9i 14.5" rtx 4050 because it had some weird performance issues that I couldn't figure out... Just ordered the Slim 7 Pro X with R7 + RTX 3050 and 32gb ram instead, hoping it'll be decent for a smaller price 😊
That's probably with the Lenovo by default equipped Driver which incap the capability of the laptop
ty! the yoga 9i blows my mind the first time i laid my eyes on it, the creative design is just on another level!!!
I only hope that Windows 12, ARM and Snapdragon will finally be a competitor to the M3 Pro/M3 Max
They are fundamentally different architectures, ARM and x86. Windows will not support ARM chips natively for the foreseeable future, and even if it does, it will lose performance in the process of translating instructions.
If Qualcomm want to compete they have to create a hardware translation layer to help execute x86 instructions, which is how the Apple M chips work with Rosetta 2.
@@SatanDotExeWindows 11 has already a native arm version and a translation layer like Rosetta 2 though?
@@KopfdesRiesen Yeah but it sucks 🤣 it needs hardware translation. It’s not like Rosetta 2 really.
managed to get a Lenovo Slim 7 Yoga with a Ryzen 5 7640S and I gotta say its one of the best laptops ive used and have pretty long battery life regardless of brightness, hz etc
how long did u have it for? I've had plenty of people saying the otherwise...
Correction: the 999 usd version of the zenbook 14x with the i7 13700h DOES NOT come with an rtx 3050. It comes with iris xe. The 1400 usd 14x with the i9 comes with the rtx 3050.
True, but for office productivities in non-stem fields it is fine. Not everyone is a video/photo editor. Far more office administrators, inventory managers, insurance underwriters, and accountants running around.
@@akin242002 yeah agree with you, in fact, I own the i7 variant of the 14x, just pointing out a possible misconception
@@akin242002 That's besides the point. Getting the product specs correct is like a bare minimum for a video about laptops. Especially when the difference between a 3050 and Iris is massive.
Pretty huge oversight
As always, another great video. Thank you for your great reviews.
When you are testing a laptop, do you just run benchmark software? What other software do you put on it?
I have selected three laptops for video editing that fall under my budget.
One is Dell inspiron 16" 2 in 1, I7 1360P, 16 GB RAM, no dedicated graphics card.
Second one is Lenovo LOQ 15" with AMD Ryzen 7 7840 HS processor, Ram 16 GB DDR5 with dedicated graphics card RTX 4050 GPU 6GB GDDR6
Third one is Lenovo LOQ 16" Intel I7 13620 H Processor, 16 Gb ram Ddr5, and dedicated graphics card RTX 4050 GPU 6GB GDDR6
Can you suggest which one to use for video editing?
My personal top picks for 2023: Lenovo Slim 5 14" OLED, Lenovo Slim 7 Gen 8 16" (not Slim 7i), Apple MacBook Pro M3 Pro 14".
The speakers are really bad on the lenovo slim unfortunately, could not deal with it.
@@GrimAbstractdamn, I'm in a dilemma. In a week, I have to make a decision on which laptop to get, and I'm torn between getting the Lenovo legion slim 5 14 oled, or the sleeker razer blade 15 oled (2022 // 3070 Ti). I love the sleekness of the razer, but I think the legion would give me more raw power. HELPPP LOL
@@GrimAbstract Good thing speakers are the least important aspect of a laptop for most people, since serious consumption of media or gaming on laptops is usually done with headphones or IEMs.
@@SirDuksalot how do you feel about the g14 bro? that's the one I decided to stay with, and I absolutely love it. I feel like its the perfect middle ground from razer and lenovo, and the battery is actually pretty good for a gaming laptop, I get around 8 hours on this thing watching youtube and doing work ( google docs and apps like word or excel)
@@Gambit33 I mean I guess for you, I do not like carrying around my $600 headphones to work meetings and the like, but having a decent speaker at that price point is not hard. My iPhone sounds %100 better, idk why Lenovo always slack on the speaker, they even did the same with the legion go.
I’ve recently bought the Razer blade 16 and I couldn’t be happier about the purchase. Such a performance with a decent battery life (obviously not great) and nice temps.
How much fps do you get in games?
Very detail segmented.. thank u..
I have the surface laptop studio two and it has been great. It performs well, runs Windows 11 smoothly, and has a good battery life... Not as good as MacBook would have, but definitely can get you through the day.
What kind of programs do you run on it? Do you game on it?
@@boo9596 So I code mostly ML stuff using Conda and browse the web. I do game sometimes but it needs to be plugged in to have the best performance. I have the 4060 and runs all the triple A games easily. Strongly recommend getting one.
The recap is absolutely good 👍 Thanks for making a so much informative video 😊
Happy New Year and plenty of great new masterful reviews in 2024 for you and Dmitriy!!! Keep up with your remarkable work, gentlemen.
I believe ROG Flow X13/Z13 is more portable gaming laptop than G14, with comparable performance...
5:08 I'm so glad you mention this, a lot of reviwers seem to ignore this huge issue. Selling you 8 GB of RAM in 2023... like I got my base MacBook Pro Retina in 2014 with 8 GB of RAM. This is not ok, Apple!
In may i bought the top-spec flow x16 with the 4070 and the HDR screen. It's perfect. It can do everything. Performs well, is thin, is a 2 in 1, has an amazing screen, types nice, good build quality, very good optimization and quiet when you need it to be. Battery life is also really long if you use armoury crate correctly.
I was waiting for this comment. I bought mine a month ago cuz it seems like the perfect all in 1. My only problems is my battery life is horrible, I can only get like 3 hours of watching youtube at lowest brightness on performance and also it's very slow on tablet mode for me idk why
How long does the battery usually last you?
would you recommend the Gigabyte Aero 16 the specs are:
i9-12900H 2.5GHz
32GB nRam
2TB SSD NVMe
16″ 4K+ (3840×2400) AMOLED
NVIDIA RTX 3080 Ti 16GB
for $1879
price aside, would you recommend it for a graphic designer that does 3D animation on Adobe After Effects
I bought a slim pro 9i last week and watch out for quality control issues. I gave mine back for a screen issue, even though everything was literally perfect (except the battery life sucked)
what is your screen issue ?
I really wanted to oled screens that the Asus work books have, personally they work better than the nebula hdr displays! But that doesn't mean they are bad. I went for the Asus scar 16 4080 for the hdr screen..Will have to skip on a pc build for an year or 2..but then I'm going for those qdoled monitors
Pepole sleeping on the Asus flow x16... i guess the reason is that its a little overpriced but its hands down one of the more complete packeges u can get in a laptop
Bought Legion Pro 5i with i9 and 4070 for myself from a near by electronics shop on Black Friday and I think it was a very good deal for the money I used to it. Been very satisfied with it overall. One thing is that it's very loud when used in performance mode but can't really complain about that since it's a laptop and it's not like 4k priced one.
At what price u bought it
On the Asus laptop did you make a mistake? The $999 laptop, the one pictured doesnt come with a 3050... The version that cones with a 3050 is $1500 and has a different charging port and brick from what Ive seen.
yea its incorrect, the price for that Asus goes for way more.
I have ASUS Proart Studiobook h7600zw. defiantly needs to be on the list, absolute BEAST
Great video!
Damn I wish you did this earlier for the sales and boxday sales lmao. Luckily for me I watched some of your previous videos and saw the G14. Best Buy though literally had a deal for it running since Tuesday and I picked it up. Actually it is still going so anyone looking for a good deal on the G14 (4060 variant) it is only $1100 ($500 off). Great video of course.
I have the 2023 ASUS G14, it's the best gaming laptop I've owned. It's surprisingly quiet and the Windows Hello login is so useful.
So I have the 2023 Asus G14 with the 4090 GPU, I am loving it so far but I noticed when gaming it doesn't feel as smooth as my PS5 like for example when I play rocket League the fps counter shows I'm playing at 165 fps but during gameplay I can feel some micro stutters any recommendations on how to fix this?
@@edwincuret2289 Would need more info to assist you on this, the 4090 is a beast and is way more powerful than a ps5. What mode are you gaming on? Silent, balanced or turbo?
@@edwincuret2289 rocket league is a very easy game to run so there shouldn't be any stutters, i'd say check your gpu drivers and windows updates if they are up to date, and if nothing changes search online to see if anyone has the same issue
@@edwincuret2289are you playing with the laptop screen or external monitor? Try enabling/disabling VSYNC, or in Armoury Crate change the setting to performance or turbo
@@edwincuret2289 I have no issues on Rocket League, it's the game I play the most. So I'd guess it's a driver issue or maybe you have a faulty power brick supplying the laptop?
ROG Flow X13 also a great thin and light gaming device (and convertible)
Great video bro... Well informed and put together nicely...i also love your car wallpapers as a car guy myself i love you see that you're into cars also... My favourite was the initial d wallpaper👌🏾
Asus Zenbook 14X all the way. Very happy with my purchase.
would you recommend that laptop for someone doing blender and cinema 4d?
You guys should review the Framework laptops next year
My 2021 g14 is still a beast
Same 🙌
Thank you very much for giving the options. I hope you become successful in the future.
I can tell Lenovo paid you handsomely with how much you pushed their products ;)
Really cool video! Love it
for me, the best laptop this year is Lenovo Legion 7i Pro, with i9 13900HX and RTX4090 graphics card... great performance, temperatures are not high in any mode, the screen is great, I just don't have a single complaint about the laptop... great gaming or work machine...
it can only be surpassed by the macbook, but only with battery life, more precisely, uniform performance on the battery or on the power supply...
Dude this is just top of the line specs anybody’s mom can say this basic information its common sense really
You couldn't give me a Macbook anything. I'm not paying $3000 for a laptop with less RAM than my phone.
Happy New Year Hardware Cunucks team!!!! Keep the videos coming in the coming year.
wow. just an absolutely informative video. thank you❤
Loving to see the variance in the use cases pics and not just a gaming focused selection
The XPS 15!? You mean the thermal throttling, QC issue galore, worse port selection and worse camera than a MacBook Pro!?
Dell is for the stupid, HP too
@@jtomtl Horrible assessment. Dell XPS 17 is for non-software engineers. Civil engineers, Mechanical engineers, or Automotive engineers. Lenovo ThinkPad T14/P14 series for programming with C#. I do agree that the Dell XPS 15 QC issues make it not worth the purchase.
@@akin242002 lol, go ahead, buy the 17 inch then, same crap, don’t give me that engineers IT crap, I am talking about the average consumer. Dell is not worth the price
@@jtomtl For the non-engineers, there are many less expensive quality options than a Dell XPS 15 or 17. Acer Nitro 5 for gaming, Lenovo ThinkPad T14 G3 for general office productivity, or the M2 MacBook Air 13/15 inch. All 3 you cannot go wrong for those specific purposes.
I don't get why people dislike AMD naming so much. Intel literally reused dies of previous generations and you can't know that from the name. AMD gives you a new SoC, often on a new node, using zen 2 or 3, and tells your right there on the name it's the case. I think it's much better.
a couple days go bought the legion pro 5 to my brother after watching so many reviews
i hope he likes it
I had a legion growing up. He will definitely like it. Depending on his needs and the sepcs it may not be the perfect laptop, but I rather have a modern gaming laptop then no laptop anyday... I tried using just a Ipad for two years. It was not fun.
Legion slim7 that's my pick
Is AMD chips better then intel ? Because I didn’t find AMD in the market
in laptops today? id say yes. they are preferred for better battery life with performance vs intel
Are there any other budget gaming laptops that are cheaper than $1500?
Very all around and hand picked solution! 👌🏻
How come macbook is best for productivity. There are way better CPU+GPU combo available at the price of Macbook Air M2.
I love PCs and have been an enthusiast for a long time. But I can't deny that no one makes such a good portable experience as the m series macbooks, they lose on spec sheets but are insane in actual use.
Bro can u suggest me laptop under 1000 dollar ??
But what can you do if your world is in PC. You're invested it it already. All you programs, plugins are for PC.
@@eladbari I can't speak on what industry your work is in, but for my line of work every single software are both windows mac. And most of them actually work better on a lower powered mac than my high end pc.
Macbook is good for productivity only when you don’t have to find alternatives to 50% of the apps in your workflow.
As someone who has been using an ASUS 2-in-1 ultrabook style laptop for about 7 years now, I was really hoping for more more 2-in-1 recommendations in the best laptops lists T_T
Nicely done
12:47 Inaccurate. The 4090 model cost scales proportionally with the performance it offers. When you add the increased power and thermal efficiency to the mix, the 4090 becomes the value king of the lineup. It will use up to half the power for the same performance of the 4060 and at the same time will be cooler per wat due to over double the die surface area. This is of outmost importance for a small laptop.
Yeah, the 4080 is the sweet spot.
Some of us don’t have $3300 to flush down the drain but ok
@@cameronbosch1213 Actually yes, totally forgot about the 4080. Definitely, performance and efficiency per dollar goes to the 4080.
@@hydrosmusic Of course, some don't even have $1600 for a 4060 model, but this is not related to what I'm addresing
@@skeptyka 4060 model is $1100 on best buy right now, open box excellent at $970 btw
A lot of these videos sing the praises of the Slim Pro 9i, but the 16" version has some serious issues that are often glossed over: bad ports (no HDMI 2.1) and very bad battery life.
If not for those missteps it would be almost perfect. The 14.5" version is better, but, unfortunately, it's hard to use a screen that size for a primary work/productivity machine.
I'm looking for a new laptop primarily for watching movies, RUclips and general browsing. And maybe very light gaming (Hearthstone). I have a desktop 4090 rig for proper gaming so I don't need powerful graphics. Main priority is the display quality so I've been looking at the OLED Vivobooks/Zenbooks. I also want a 16"+ screen. What do you recommend?
Laptops are always interesting because of their designs, but man I can't deal with the fan noise tradeoff. We need some innovation on the cooling side
Ultra efficient laptops can do passive cooling, but there's still a tradeoff under load (as evidenced by fanless Apple silicon Macbook Airs vs Macbook Pros).
This is where I'm hoping cooling tech like the AirJet can scale up, though, in the near future.
We don't need cooling innovations we need ARM cpus on windows
Cooling doesn’t fix the root and larger issue, which is power consumption. These non-ARM machines are fast plugged in but barely last a few hours when on whisper mode running at 50 percent performance or less. We need a laptop that lasts all day, if my phone needed to be charged every day at lunch I would throw it out.
That’s a lot of Lenovos in the list. Well done lenovo
Have been looking at the growth of Zephyrus G14 from its debut
I have been dreaming of getting it and I guess it's time to get it!
Loving my Ryzen Framework 13.
No mention of Framework? Definitely cool!
I'm looking for a laptop for my engineering studies with these requirements:
- Well-known brand
- Gaming processor with a professional look
- Dedicated graphics card for engineering tasks, coding, editing, and light gaming
- Microsoft Student lifetime
- 16GB RAM (expandable)
- 512GB SSD (expandable)
- Metal or aluminum body
- Good battery life
- Latest generation components
- Future-proof
- Average-sized screen for daily use and portability
- Budget of around 60-63k
What did you get
Legion Pro 7i with RTX 4080 🔥
chose an asus zenbook 14x and can't be happier! came from a MacBook pro!
Lenovo Legion Slim 5 Rtx 4060 16Gb ram 512ssd Intel I5 13500H - 1140 euro
Slim 5 Rtx 4060 16Gb ram 512ssd Ryzen 7840HS - 1265 Euro
Legion 5 Pro Rtx 4060 32Gb ram 1Tb ssd I5 13500HX - 1465 Euro
5Pro Rtx 4060 32Gb ram 1Tb ssd Ryzen 7745HX - 1485 Euro
What to choose as my first gaming laptop that i want to keep for many years? for best cooling and most silent?
Good stuff
got an Gigabyte Aorus 15 with an intel 13700h and a rtx 4070 and 16gb ddr5 for 1400€. Definitely worth every Penny
What do you think about Razer Blade 14 and 15?
I'm starting my career at Cybersecurity as a Digital Forensics Assistant, which laptop will be best to go for, I'm currently using a gaming laptop but as you all know battery backup sucks and its fan noise is so disturbing. I took suggestions from my collogues some suggests mac and some windows. So which should I go for and if you have laptop name in your mind please reply me.
what would be the best laptop if i want both gaming and university productivity?
9:30 "for students who don't want to break the bank" when talking about a 1000$ laptop 💀 My guy is so clueless
My current device is 2100 and my next idea is the Zenbook Duo 2... which easily goes over 2300
Love the Initial D screen on the G14
Just got the rog G14. It’s beautiful and in sale at Best Buy
Video starts at 4:09
thank you... holy shit alot of wasted time.
7:26 to skip the Mac stuff too. Oh really a MacBook is great for productivity? Wow that is news to me!!1!
Is there any laptop that provides great productivity and studying while having above decent gaming??
What laptop would you recommend doing blender and cinema 4d?
16:35 the 4070 M16 does not come with Mini-LED! At least not in the North American market. Just a heads up for anyone considering that
He knows that. All these RUclips keep acting like Asus laptops all u Ave mini led. The only way to get a mini led Asus laptop is to spend like 2600 to 3600 and 2600 is rare. This guy knows the one on sale for 1r00 isn't mini led he not an idiot. Just a liar. Kinda like the g14 that people say is the best 14 inch it's not unless you want to spend 3200 dollars to get the mini led version. Other then that the Lenovo legion 5 slim 14 is better in every way and especially the display since it's an old and the g14 is a ips.
Wait, why are you recommending the Asus ROG Strix Scar 17!? It has a dated design with a 16 : 9 screen, and when you open the bottom, good luck not breaking the ribbon cables.
Also Strix weigh 2.5-2.7 Kg
That cpu is the fastest rn
Is Microsoft Surface a good laptop for high school students?
❤ great
TBH if I had the money to buy a separate productivity Laptop I'd definitely buy the Lenovo yoga book 9i, cause of the touch and dual screen.
G14 top of the league for many years now. When are the competition going to step it up
I would still consider the m1 MacBook Air as one of the best budget laptops. It’s 3 years old but still offers plenty of performance for video editing , music production work and anything a student would need , it’s also only $750
M1 Air is a bomb. Perfect value to performance. With 16 GB of RAM, refurbished it has no competition at all.
I think the hp pavilion 14 plus with 7840u is its closest competitor. Testing from several outlets have it trading blows with m2 on performance and efficiency. Not to mention it comes with an oled panel, 16 gigs of ram, and 780m igpu. I think its the sleeper hit of 2023. It goes on sale for 750 on hp website or 620 on Costco website. Feels like an intentional positioning by HP
@@ZhuJo99
Gigabyte 14 OLED/4050 has been good to me. Got it for 850 in like new condition from Microcenter.
What’s your opinion on the HP Dragonfly G4?
I bought the Asus ROG Zephyrus G15, really happy with my choice.
are those Asus Zenbook 14x OLED laptops available in Europe? While they do look very interesting, if I can find them they are very expensive (around 2500USD with dedicated graphics) and not even with the right kind of keyboard (only German, not Swiss). I went with a Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 with an AMD 7845S, 3k 90Hz OLED Screen, 32GB RAM and a very fast 1TB SSD for about 1100CHF (around 1300 USD). I couldn't find anything close to that in value in a thin an light. A MB Air 15" with 24GB and 1TB is almost twice as expensive and I'm stuck with 1TB forever... Maybe this perspective helps some international viewers, I feel this video sadly doesn't apply internationally.
Hey, I just had a question. Uh I really want to get the legion slim 7i for gaming, but gaming won’t be the only thing I’m gonna be doing. I’m also going to be coding. Do you think it is possible for me to do both on one laptop? Please answer quickly and thank you for the video (also I’m not a bot)
I bought an Asus G14 last year, and I loved the portability and the performance. Unfortunately, there was one very serious downside: it got so hot and loud while gaming that I couldn't stand it. There is a reason why very few gaming laptops exist in this small, 14" form factor. It's almost impossible to dissipate the heat from such a small case without making a huge amount of fan noise. However, Lenovo have given it a try, and the reviews I have heard say it has solved the cooling problem that made return the G14. I have ordered a Lenovo Legion Slim 5 14, and will evaluate it when it arrives in a couple of days.
In contrast, I have a 2023 RTX 4060 G14 and have no complaints about the noise or heat issues. Did you have a 4090 or something?
@@SatanDotExeThat's a super important question. What GFX card was on that G14.
The same guy above updated on other cases that he prefers the Legion over the G14. That it performa much better
i see eber is a man of culture. 12:58
shoutout to throttle house 17:13 LOL
Can you recommend me the best battery life laptop (no price cap)