Yes. I also went from carnivore to AB and have been gaining weight. I am doing some trials but it may help to understand your experiences and some possible options or recommendations with carb restriction.
I started carnivore 10 months ago. It began strict, the benefits and body changes were huge, but I've also listened to my body and have found more balance. If I feel like a few cups of yogurt, I eat and enjoy it. If my daughter is chopping up some fresh carrots, I grab a small handful and love ever bite of it. I'm 99% carnivore but I'm not a monk :). And that balance has allowed me flexibility, great results and to look and feel amazing at 55.
I’m coming up on my full year. I’ve lost 100 pounds. I’ve incorporated blueberries and milk in small amounts. After my annual weigh in I’ll decide whether I want or need to go strictly carnivore. I think I’ll always use it to stay where I am now.
I transitioned from carnivore to animal based diet because I wasn't sleeping well and feeling weak when working out. So I went animal based with just one fruit (orange or grapefruit or berries) daily, near the end of the day. I also eat a small amount of cooked veggies, especially esparagus and broccoli. I sleep better and have more energy while not gaining weight. So for now I will stick to that.
@@khaldounsamman9128 sounds very reasonable to me. Not all of us are overweight or have health issues. Some are active n healthy and want to stay that way. Food is medicine.
I was an on and off vegan for years. And I tried but never could stick with it. I recently began a carnivore diet. This way of eating is very sustainable for me. While I was eating a vegan diet I always wanted a big fat burger with bacon 😊 And, now, I can have that anytime I want.
You were NEVER vegan. Vegan is an ethical lifetime commitment for the animals. There is NO going back. You obviously had no idea how to eat plant based so you succumbed to your selfish desires for decaying animal flesh. Congratulations.
@@suzyvegalicious5646 It is not 'unethical' to eat animals. But it may be against your PERSONAL morals. That's your personal choice and should NOT impact other people. Veganism was originally just a diet. It had absolutely nothing to do with animal welfare until animal rights activists got involved and took over, kicking out the very man who had originally invented the diet and set up the organisation. Until humans aquire the adaptations to live exclusively on plant material (which no animal does) we cannot be healthy excluding animal products from our diet. In fact the hominin species who tried that de-evolved and died out.
@@jg5755It is totally unethical and evil to kill another living being when there is no need whatsoever to do so. Thou shalt not kill applies to all living sentient beings even though you pretend that it is only for humans, but you are WRONG. It has nothing to do with personal morals. It is NEVER a choice when there is a victim. When you eat a muredered being you are taking in not just decaying flesh but all the negative energy of the animal who felt fear and pain while dying. This becomes your karma. If you are so sure that what you are doing is ethical then what I say should not bother you at all
You are a good man and a good doctor. We need so many more of you spreading this message. You found your sweet spot, and that should be the goal for everyone.
I appreciate that, and yes that's the goal I think for everyone. I think these things are really useful part of the journey, as much as we may not like the results, as long as we learn from it, then it's useful and not a mistake.
I have been 99% carnivore for a year, best thing for me. I do add garlic, onions and ginger cooking my beef. Eat fish, eggd, butter. Occasional crave a fruit once a week. I think everyone should tweak as the body wants
I agree with you, but it is the mind that tells us to eat fruit as it is the addictive nature of glucose that tricks us into eating something sweet. The body doesn't really need it for optimal health.
Just a thought! I am carnivore about 95+% of the time for 7 months now. I train bodybuilding style for the last 52 yrs, 63 yrs now. Body fat about 10-12%. We had the work Christmas party early this year. I ate everything as if I was off the 95% carnivore plan. Beers, chips, ham and cheese sandwiches, moonshine (my own of course), one or two chocolate cookie candy things and the main meal of carnitas, corn and potatoes. I weighed myself @ 81.5 kilos or 179.3lbs at 5'6"s tall the next two days were like having a hangover from all the carbs and processed crap. Know before you all think I drank too much. I usually have a few beers and shine on the weekends. Never feel bad the next day. I weighed myself the morning after the party and was 84.7kilos or 186.3lbs. it took 3 days before I was back to my 81.5 kilos and NO it was not worth it. If anyone is going to try something new. Please be patient it takes time for your body to respond. Especially if you have mistreated it for how many YEARS???!!!🤔🤔🤔🤔🤗🤗🤗❤❤❤
It’s too bad people are looking for specific labels. If you eat mostly meat you are carnivore. The little things no from meat we eat doesn’t make us not carnivore. Only reason to not eat something is if it is detrimental to you feeling good.
summary: - i quit carbs and went carnivore and i felt amazing - but it was not so amazing, so i add carbs (fruits and honey) and i felt amazing - but it was not so amazing… so reduce carbs again and go carnivore again… and i felt amazing!! aaaaaaaaall right man!! you got it!!! 👌👌
Interesting to hear that you're doing pretty much what I've been doing. What's great about staying close to carnivore is that when you add this or that in that last 1 to 5%, you can tell how it affects you (for better or for worse) and make tweaks based on your experience :)
I'm formerly from Brissy, now live in the land of mountains, cheese and chocolate. I've been carnivore for 2 years now and I 100% agree with you regarding finding what works best for you. I've been very strict and also quite lax (maybe 85%) and am now somewhere between 95 - 99%. I certainly notice when I add too many carbs back into my diet, this may be general wellbeing, body composition low energy levels or struggling for recovery after exercise. For me, the one thing that is most important is my mental health and by not being too strict with my diet, harsh on myself and just listening to my body I feel I'm in a really good place.
It has always been, and always will be, an elimination diet. Can it be a healthy long term solution for many? Absolutely! However, let us not paint it into a corner, where it doesn't leave room for dietary expansion for those who may enjoy some beneficial additions. I believe one mistake was naming it a "carnivore diet" in the first place. It makes many influencers look like flip floppers when they experiment with other foods.
@@peppersanches412 I'm serious... should I expect to eliminate more, or is elimination part of the diet (like a gorilla or other copraphage)? (as serious as a rainbow lorikeet can be, anyway)
I have messed around with these diets for a long long time. Since 1995. I always feel best somewhere in between carnivore and keto. I add in a few veggies a few berries etc. congrats on experimenting.
How does the diet go for you? I think initial clean carnivore is good to "clear and cleanse" and after that it should be OK to play a little "dirty" with some fruits and veggie
the biggest reasons why carnivore doesnt always work long term for some people is 2 reasons. One is that they eat too much protein and not nearly enough fat, not even close. when youre zero carb and then also too low on fat and high on protein, your body has to get energy from carbs since youre not giving it enough fat. so it uses the amino acids from the protein to use that for fuel. that is a very very inefficient way of energy metabolism and requires a lot of nutrients which you will get depleted in. if youre however eating enough fat and keep protein low enough so it doesnt turn into glucose, you will burn ketones instead of glucose, this gives a lot more energy and is way more efficient for your mitochondria and spares a lot more nutrients than burning glucose does. you have to imagine that our ancestors ate WAY more fat than we do now. mammoths and other megafauna were extremely fatty and we used to live on that, not on lean cuts of steak that the people in the west are so used to nowadays. in europe, especially eastern europe the fat is still prized, common and normal to consume, but not so much in the US. second reason why carnivore doesnt always work for everyone is the lack of organ meats, especially liver, brain and bone marrow. these are nutritional powerhouses and we definitely ate those throughout our history. eating just muscle meat might give some deficiencies for some people. So, the two main issues why carnivore doesnt always work for everyone, is because theyre still burning glucose, but through a very inefficient process and an inefficient energy source: protein. we need to use FAT if we dont consume carbs. and second is the nutrient deficiencies by not eating nose to tail, as we always would have done in our history as human beings. all the best everyone
@@normameyers4904 fat to protein ratio of 2:1 in grams. That is a lot of fat compared to what most carnivores are used to. This ratio is based on the work of Zsófia Clemens who has a clinic in hungary. They are known for healing and reversing very aggressive cancers and autoimmune disorders with just food alone. Meat, fat and organs. Look her up on RUclips or check out PaleoMedicina 🙏🏻
@@KmusikOne of course I'm promoting organs, they're the most nutrient dense foods on the planet and we used it eat it for hundreds of thousands of years, why would i not promote it. If you're doing fine on a 1:1 ratio of fat to protein ratio then enjoy, this message was for the people that it doesn't work for and i gave 2 logical answers of why that could be. All the best
The issue he had initially is chronically low insulin. Which it seems is required to tell the kidney to retain electrolytes. Which is why "adding sugar" worked, raised insulin temporarily. But you only need a bit. ~20-50 g a day mostly in 1 meal. The carnivore alternate fix is eat a lot of protein in 1 meal. ~140g ish. Which also bumps insulin. That will be all.
@Themeatmedic so generally you have seen in your own case and your clients that 20 grams of carbs can provide that necessary insulin. I am really struggling on carnivore for over a year. It's been draining to say the least. Doing it for mental health reasons
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@@asdf1991asdf have you tried doubling your food intake?
My oxalate dumping experience was awful, it expressed itself as a huge dump of kidney stones into my bladder and passing them took 3 days of very painful urination and resulting in what felt like a mild bladder infection with darker urine and diarrhea and all cleared up after 4 days. This happened 3 months after starting strict carnivore diet just beef and fat and with no transition from 10 years vegetarian.
I feel 10-15 g carb is very sustainable. Your body has insulin to protect your blood. We just don’t have enough insulin for 100g a day without inducing insulin resistance
I started with keto and transitioned to carnivore for three months. After that, I added small quantities of berries and low GI veg. I feel this is sustainable, and my weight is stable.
Yes, I did basically the same as you. The transition was very easy for me. I think most people would benefit from keto first, and then slowly switching onto carnivore.
My favorite quote: minds are like parachutes, they only work when open. 😊 Everyone wants a black and white answer, but often the best approach is somewhere in the grey. We are meant to adapt.
Hm... Dubious at best. Life is full of black, white, and grey. To discern is what matters. While your parachute might work better, the contents of the mind might also fall on the ground. 🤔
I love how I feel on carnivore, but I get massive muscle cramps that don't resolve even with electrolyte supplements. I've been dancing with going back on carnivore, but I work a very physical job and can't risk getting those cramps again.
I was really strict for about 3 months but then nearly went insane because I really don't like a red meat without some sort of flavouring It was unsustainable for me So now I add pepper, curry powder, onion powder, and garlic powder. I also add some chopped onions Did you know that you can buy frozen chopped onions? They are very convenient for people who have trouble slicing food or who don't use too much of an onion up at once I don't know if the flavourings are doing me any harm batkamma the fact is, the carnivore diet was not sustainable for me without them
Absolutely. Honestly, some of it sounds fanatical. Sounds like swinging the pendulum too far. Everyone is different. Sustainability matters. Being so strict often leads to wide swings. I've read so many comments about falling off the wagon n gaining 50lbs or more before starting over. Better to figure out what is doable long term. I increased my meat n fat n cholesterol went passed 300! That's with regular intense weight training n regular walking n some hiit training. My weight is fairly stable as I didn't have but 8 lbs to lose. Suffered from insomnia, muscle cramps n frequent urination and just cut sugars, seed oils, processed foods. Lost 10lbs in 3 weeks. Still figuring this out after 15 months. Hubby had to add in more carbs. Too skinny and we are both seniors. Gotta find the right zone
I'm beginning my third year of carnivore on January 1, 2025. I've been 99% carnivore with only a few carbs (under 50) every once in a while and my body has been changing all throughout it with the only problem being my sleeping, Lately, I've been thinking about having some vegetables infrequently so, I think that's my body giving me a 'head's up'. Also, I made one little change that seems to have helped my sleeping and that's adding heavier blankets during the cold nights. Usually, I hate anything heavy or constricting. Again, the thought never even popped up. I just found myself adding the blanket.
I'm finding the best advice in the comments of this video, much better than any of the 1000's of other carnivore videos I've watched. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE!
I've been on the Carnivore WOE for just about a year. I still love it and still feeling the benefits. I intend to continue. However, I am adding back some low carb, low fiber, low oxalate fruits like zucchini,or blueberries, I have the occasional handful of macadamia nuts or walnuts. An avocado or two or some coconut milk. etc. Some of these are seasonal from my garden. I plan to continue adding more ingredients to begin to make a dish that I feel good about eating maybe 1 or 2x a month. To me the carnivore diet is a touchstone of my good health. I will eat it most days but will be willing to have a different taste a couple days a month. I find that if I get out of control I just start a 24 -36 hour fast right after I finish my cheat meal. I love going back to strict carnivore.
I have been trying carnivore for a couple of weeks now. I prefer to have a little veg with my steak and maybe a kefir yogurt for after. I’m feeling very well and have lost 5 pounds in weight. One should definitely listen to your body, just eating meat wasn’t for me but I do eat eggs as well as very little cheese. Thanks for all the information.
Ok wow I’ve basically come to exactly tbat same conclusion!! I just need that little bit of carbs. I have added yoghurt some cheese, a bit of milk and some pickles and I’m feeling SO much better. I was actually having issues with eggs and once I dropped them I felt worse but my throat healed up. So that’s all been a bit tricky. I think it’s good to have a little flexibility. I love how Dr Bright occasionally has something for social reasons like scones. It’s all very individual. Thanks for being brave enough to adapt and be open x
Thank you for sharing your journey and for your transparency Suresh! I appreciate you, your videos, your podcasts, and your Facebook group - and love that you are personally interactive.
I love to see people like you and Saladino bc you're not afraid to show you're trying different things instead of the harsh/condescending tone and dogma that people like Chaffee can have. They'll say a "truth" or part of a truth and then conveniently leave out other things.
Your experiences will help us consider and or avoid some of the outcomes that may not work for us. It's good to learn from your mistakes and experiences but it's better to learn from the mistakes and positive experiences of others and avoid negative outcomes. Thanks for sharing the rabbit holes you have gone down and the tweaks you've made along the way.
Thanks. I do similar - not being fanatic, but also eat lots of fish, specially Salmon, beef lamb pork; also liver. And all kind of spices. If craving for a desert I allow some greek Yoghurt 10% fat, fattened up with heavy full crem and a few berries. But it needs to stay snack size, after the meat never more than ca 100g and once a week or so. I lost 7-8 Kg in 8 month - never been hungry - eating as much as I wan
Hey doc! Your video where you "quit the carnivore diet" actually got me a bit worried and made me do some more research. You know how that is... we don't really have good data in that regards but bits and pieces we try to glue together to form a hypothesis that makes some sense. This is what I wanted to share with you: I found some resources suggesting the 6-9month mark is a microbiome issue. (same as the -approx. - 1 month mark and 2 year mark) (There was a single video that covered this well but I seem to have forgotten to bookmark it :( ) I also, from my own experience and some sources that support the idea, think the season matters. Yes, well, for us who have seasons, probably. Something that might have something to do with deuterium? Idk but it kind of explains why Saladino can get away with what he's doing, living where he lives, and you can't ;) + he's very active so he offsets the extra carbs that way too. Anyway, lemme know what you think.
At the 9 month mark, I alos started feeling off and took advice from some who suggested berries, some other fruit, avo and a little honey. Well, after experimenting I felt much worse. Had constant headache. I coldn't balance my electrolytes and i gained fat. So I cut out the carbs except for small amount of milk and it took 3 months to recover properly. Now it's been 2 years and I'm thriving.
@NikkiDawes-x2t Took me a while to sort mine out. Eventually realised that I was getting more than enough potassium from meat and eggs so stopped adding any. Excess potassium also reduces your salt. So I now make sure I get enough salt - always add it to my water - and just take a magnesium glycinate capsule in the evening before bed.
For me, I can't do any sugar. It aggravates my lifelong epilepsy. So I'm a strict carnivore. I also had to eliminate all cheeses because though I felt awesome, it was stalling me out. Since I dropped the cheeses, I've started to lose body fat again. I've also stopped adding extra fats - just eating the fat that comes with the meat and whole eggs. Eating a stick of butter doesn't work for me for fat loss either and it makes sense - if you're eating energy, your body will use the excess energy before it taps into its own stored energy. So it seems like people as slender as steak and butter gal can get away with eating sticks of butter and cheese.. they don't have any excess fat to lose. My excess fat wasn't going anywhere until I reduced my extra added fats and cheeses. I will reintroduce them when I get to my ideal weight for my size and use them as maintenance tools! But yeah.. this diet, the proper human diet, is perfect for humans, you just tweak it for your own personal goals!
When you start feeling a bit shaky on the carnivore diet it usually is an electrolyte issue. Not a carb issue. But once being metabolically flexible some carbs now and then won't hurt.
Yeah but if you have played around with electrolytes ad naesum to no result, and then a small amount of carb settles thd electrolyte issue that wasn't solved with salt etc. then it was carbs that were the answer. Some people need that small amount and it isn't surprising that not everyone is at their best on zero carb.
@@asdf1991asdf💯! Paul Saladino explains It best in his videos, but some people would just rather claim electrolyte or carb addiction problem which is ridiculous.
@@catsrus2890 That doesn't justify the amount of carbs he added back to his diet, especially in the form of fructose. Saladino's issue to me was always three things: not enough food for someone so active, too much organ consumption, and not enough fat. I don't recall he ever mentioning electrolytes, so I can't say for sure he was lacking them, but maybe it's a fourth problem, yes.
@@fabioriato Paul doesn't have to justify anything. Paul is a very athletic person, with surfing, weight lifting and everything else that he does... Contrast that with Anthony Chaffee who has said on many occasions that he rarely exercises and his girlfriend Elle said it too. As one guy said, Chaffee is more juiced than a Capri Sun. 😂 He's most likely taking something to maintain that muscle look when he doesn't exercise much. I watched Chaffee for a year and I heard him say it several times. Most very athletic people need carbs. Paul also has said in numerous videos that after a year on the Carnivore Diet when he started feeling poorly, that he tried everything including tweaking the electrolytes... and nothing worked until he added in the fruit and then he finally felt better. Happy New Year!🎉
Thank you for your straightforward and honest talk ---- I could really relate to so many things you said ---- I was a carb and sugar addict since I was a little girl --- Carnivore eating has been so beneficial for me for the last few years --- I feel so much better eating this way, as well as eating less often --- I vary things according to what I am doing each day --- I just found you today, and will now be a subscriber ❤️
Yep. I add milk and some kiwis. I have no desire to add a bunch of fruit, but a little bit helps tremendously. Strict carnivore doesn't make much sense for most healthy people.
This was super helpful. My first trial of carnivore was for 30 days. It was tough, but very beneficial. Then I did 2 more weeks with my wife. I struggled with the idea of sticking with it for 6 months or longer without a single bite of fruit or anything. My gut instinct was that a couple berries or banana every 2-3 weeks had to be better than abandoning carnivore altogether. Your experience and explanation helped me think through what works best for me. Thank a bunch.
I truly believe the amount of carbs we over eat that are unnecessary if we are only a little active, will be the key factor when weight gain happens. The best diet is carnivore with low carb in the form of raw dairy like milk. Honey can be added IF you are very active and your body calls for it. Good rule of thumb is carnivore diet with carbs added in to an amount equal to the amount of energy you use a day. If you’re not very active, carnivore with a glass or two of raw milk a day. If you’re mildly active, raw milk, honey, and whatever other carbs agree with you that are animal based. Fruit might be a challenge while on carnivore considering many fruits seem to make people feel gassy who give it a try after being carnivore, safe bets are milk, yogurt, and honey. I would bet carnivore,plus raw milk and honey if needed, are the absolute best combination
Btw, when he said he was eating 250g of carbs my eyes went wide and was like DUH! That’s why he gained weight! That’s hella carbs!! He must not have ever been into diet and weight lifting bc he said he works out lightly but the amount of carbs he was eating was for someone working out hard at the gym.
I think you’re absolutely correct. A 99% carnivore diet may work best for most folks - definitely for the long haul. It’s worked wonders for me. Thank you for the clarification on your personal diet.
I started a strict carnivore 3 years ago. I think it is really important to stay strict at the beginning to repair the leaky gut problems that were causing a lot of health issues for me. After 6 months I experimented with Paul Saladinos animal base diet. The small amount of fruit, honey, and carbs that I eat have not changed my weight or made me feel bad at all. I do believe to keep doing a carnivore style diet long-term you need try to eat as much variety as you can handle.
Yes, I've had similar experiences to you and ended up similarly. My love of sweetness in food has gotten me gaining weight a bit, but then I'd fast and reset back closer to pure carnivore. I tried your diet too. Currently I experiment with iodine which is giving me the energy I've craved. I like to experiment and see what works...
Thanks. This is timely. I’ve been a bit afraid to experiment because when I fall off it’s usually hard. I’ve had an occasional salad with my steak. Seems ok. But a couple weeks ago I really went wild with one or two meals. I was able to real it back in quickly.
Thanks for your honesty, I find 100% carnivore very difficult and my constant failure at it has made me feel bad resulting in binging and weight gain after I originally lost 20 kilos with low carb and fasting. The idea of 95-99% sounds more achievable for me as well. Thank you 😊
Appreciate you, I just stopped strict carnivore based on my blood work. My shbg was very high and I wasn't taking boron. So now I'm eating fruits, veggies,honey and a small amount of rice daily to try and get those shbg numbers down. Any male doing carnivore needs his free test and shbg numbers.
I don't understand why some people think drinking raw milk or eating dairy and cheese is not strict carnivore... 🤷♀️ But then they say coffee is ok.. 😆
The strict carnivore diet is good for some people and they always say you should find the one diet that fits you maybe it's the strict carnivore and maybe it's eating some hamburgers now and then.
I think you’ve found the sweet spot! I am carnivore but I do a tiny serving of berries in the morning with breakfast and I dont feel like I’m missing out anymore. I dont miss vegetables at all. I think animal based is good for those with extremely high metabolism who are losing way more weight than they want to. For those of us who gain weight easily I think we need to keep carbs to one serving a day or less.
It takes a big man to share and be honest about your journey so far. I've also been on a similar journey on the Carnivore diet with similar conclusions. You have helped me by confirming that I was on the correct path. Thank you 😊
Thank you. above all I want to be transparent. we're all on a learning journey, and there are no definitive answers. anyone who deals in absolutes doesn't know what they are talking about.
I appreciate your content and honesty as i struggle with the carnivore dogma. Ive also struggled with the diet now for more than a year. Have you found clients that add 20-30 grabs of carbs literallly improve to the point or the diet actually working for them? @@Themeatmedic
I had experiences with hand cramps after switching from SAD to Carnivore and back to SAD again. The cramps were never present until after returning to SAD from Carnivore.
I love that hoodie... I can see that this is your own logo on it, but the fit and material looks great! Where did you get that hoodie before doing the logo stamp? Thanks
Kudos for this one Doc. 👏. Yes your passionate perspective came through looking to challenge other drs promoting carnivore. We are all on a journey and we need to be open to new information, else we are part of the dogma problem. I am one who classes dairy as carnivore. If someone disagrees and can explain it properly then sure I can accept their view as their view. I have coffee ( my only vice), but still class myself as carnivore ( I'm going to watch your other video re coffee and your hospital visit shortly) Keep well, and as Nick Norwitz says, stay curious
I've been what I call 'almost carnivore' for at least 3 years, reversed reduced kidney function, hypertension, the need for a knee replacement and the athritis that was part of the need for the surgery, the colpased fracture in my patella according to my surgeon in his own words 'seems to be repairing itself', also massively reduced a chronic sinus problem I've had since I was a kid which had got to the point where within a couple of weeks after getting over the last sinus infection another one would be starting Haven't been on any medication for over 2 years whereas it used to eleven of them, allsorts of other beneficial changes, weight was never a huge problem for me but at 60 years old I'm back to the shame sort of shape was as a keen martial artist in my twenties Aside from the meat, fish & eggs I do have some dairy sourced from local farms including raw milk, eat some vegetables about twice a week, mainly onions, peppers and leafy greens, also what we Brits call chips twice a week, double-fried in beef dripping [tallow] So I would definitely agree that a small amount of carbs alongside eating mostly meat and eggs can definitely work, and it does make it more sustainable, I do about 3 days a week of completely carnivore, also do time-restricted feeding style intermittent fasting where I tend to eat all my food within a 6-8 hour window, one day a week I'll only eat once and every 6-8 weeks I'll do a fast around 36 hours After 5 or 6 years of experimentation that seems to be what works best for me
Excellent watch Ive subscribed, it was great to hear your point of view, at the Meat Up last night with Dave, valid in many of your patients. I was thinking on the way home that in that 9 months carnivore I was a bit "topsy turvy" as well, being an acupuncturist I thought it was not unlike a "healing crisis", I just kept pushing through it not unlike getting to new levels in fitness or life itself. As in "nothing in nature is a straight line". I can honestly say for me at around 12 months my fat adaption smoothed out immensely. I'm wondering if this could be transitional fat adaption stage? cheers Robin 🤔
I've found that doing my own tweaking of my diet, which I usually describe as Ketovore, about 85% Carnivore, and the rest non-starchy veggies, works best for me.
Im sure you correct. I tried full carnivore and i was perfect untill 3 months. I was extremely lacking in energy and "life-force" I now eat ONE slice of bread every 3 days or so and drink half a cup of milk every few days. I feel excellent.
This approach is treating nutrition as science rather than religion. We each have a personal theory based on what we've learned - no-one should be afraid of admitting that part of it isn't working, and should adjust their theory accordingly .. and then experiment, and see how well it works (or not).
This year I started doing the same. I think there is really a seasonality to it. I don’t believe I am meant to be eating much carbs in the winter, just as it would have been pre globalism. Spring and Summer carbs are naturally and abundantly available. I break ketosis during that time.
I don't know if you follow Prof Bart Kay, but he has said in several of his videos, that many people who jump straight into the deep end of carnivore (practically) overnight, will experience the bliss of carnivore for about 6 months. Then between 6 and 9 months (sound familiar?) things fall apart, sometimes quite graphically. He said it had something to do with what the sudden switch does to the microbiome but the problem doesn't tip over into trouble until about 6 months in. I'm sorry, I can't remember exactly what the reason was - all I needed to remember was don't go Lion Diet overnight because bad things will happen 6-9 months later - but maybe you can find it on his channel (or carnivore tribe channel).
I've gone from keto to carnivore to what you call your Primal FUsion WOE. I eat a few berries, milk and salad greens, beeg, chicken, eggs, nut meal, collegen powder. Prep and cook all my own food. My health is improving. 😊
After you become fat adapted, increase carbs to 50-100 per day from whole food sources. Sweet potato-carrots-fruit at the end of the meal.....and number 1 rule: don't OVEREAT
I’ve been animal based for 8 years, mostly carnivorous and lion at times. Pure carnivore eliminated my interstitial cystitis symptoms but foot pain and back pain did not go away. I’ve tried numerous experiments with adding plants. My IC symptoms always return And my poo, while beautiful little snakes,are infrequent. I need to learn how to use just enough plants to go more regularly. I can’t do raw milk. Too addictive for me.
How a person eats on a Ketovore/Carnivore diet depends on where you are in your Journey. Are you trying to Heal all the Inflammation in your Body or Dealing with an Auto Immune disease or trying to Reverse Type 2 Diabetes. (you need A Lion diet or very strict Carnivore), are you trying to Loose weight (you need a Keto Diet, Ketovore or Dirt Carnivore Diet)
Perhaps oxalate dumping! I get waves of weakness and fatigue…. VERY strong black tea and 2 small squares of very dark chocolate… 90 mins later, dumping HALTS.
Something's take time. I have been on the carnivore diet for over 10 months and it has taken me this long to stop feeling exhausted all the time Before that I was on a standard western diet which included meals on wheels food Very unhealthy Don't expect instant results for chronic series medical issues
I started carnivore about 2 months ago but I couldn’t give up my dairy or berries, so I essentially am doing his primal diet and have never felt better! Dropped 10lbs in a little over a month
I couldn't do strict carnivore. I feel the best 90 plus percent carnivore, but I add non starchy or lo glycimic fruits & vegetables, some sweet potatoes once or twice a week, berries, honey, walnuts, and grapefruit just hit the spot. Some aged cheese is ok. I literally feel better than ever.
Another possible help could be adding in more fat. It did not work for me, though, but it may be worth a try before going to carbs. What has worked for me is supplementing with higher dose iodine. I also enjoy other benefits from iodine. Everybody is different so just try different things for a decent amount of time and see if it works. All the best.
@lccorso right now I take 8-10 drops of Lugol's 2percent. I am less cold, have more energy during the day and sleep better. I just bought Lynn Farrow's book and continuing to learn about it. Dr. Brownstein is the expert and has a book too. I am finding that I can get better info from Yandex search engine since Google and the rest of the western world search engines filter out so much useful info. All the best.
The whole idea of trying to make names for diets is dogmatic and that is what causes the problem imo. People try to put themselves in these diets dogmatically and it creats confusing. What I have found is there is a simple formula: stay away from processed foods. Eat foods as high a quality and as you can. I keep to four Fs........Fruit, Fowl, Fish and Flesh. I change the arrangement and amounts based on how my body feels and I no longer count calories. I intermittent fast regularly as that seems to keep my body balanced. Its really not that complicated, but it took me 40 years to arrive at it.....after many dogmatic diets created by many people.
I jumped between both for same issue. First meal is zero carbs I’ll eat a few eggs and some sort of meat then I’ll just drink water with my salts during the day about a hr before coming home I’ll eat a protein/ potato meal then when I get home I go weight lift during the work out I’ll drink lemon water with honey to get the best work out and go hard. Then after working out I’ll eat met potatoes with fruit and then I’m good
😮 A team of researchers at Loma Linda University in the United States has shown vegetarian men live for an average of 10 years longer than non-vegetarian men - 83 years compared to 73 years. For women, being vegetarian added an extra 6 years to their lives, helping them reach 85 years on average.
Bravo!!! I love your approach and attitude. I have 3 questions:1) Is it really bad to gain weight to some degree? Isn't fat a good fuel storage for one? It's possible to have real food shortage in the future. 2) Is "all plants are trying to kill you" true in all context? 3)is there a way to take advantages from both meat and plants (directly， with proper cooking)?
I think you are looking at this from the wrong perspective. You started experiencing some issues not because the diet was somehow incorrect but because your body is reducing threshold of sensitivity to food. You ate something and you were OK ,but couple months later the same food becomes problem. About a month ago I started experiencing some severe anxiety. Being on carnivore and eating limited number of foods I knew that something is off but introducing carbs back into a diet was not an option. I did not want to do it. Increasing intake of heavy cream and butter didn’t make things better. Then I realized that I was avoiding eating sardines for couple weeks. Bingo. Anxiety subsided gradually when I started eating sardines again. It would suggest that my body requires right now more of certain elements. I also have to consider that it may change eventually. Human body is not a static thing.
Hi, how does carnivore diet effect stamina and endurance? I'm an ex-bowel cancer patient, losing ~1/3 of my large intestine (lower), have since struggled with food: intake, output, bloating, extreme gas, cramps and general discomfort. I find that on a carnivore type diet i become regular, and most symptoms fade away. However, due to the enduro mx that I undertake, having large energy stores is a must, what effect will carnivore and the encompassed type fasting have on stamina and endurance? Happy to have a verbal convo; If you watch any of my enduro videos, you will see the type of physical and mental strengths I require and situations I put myself into. Cheers Mike. Also - side note, I am currently listening to your podcasts on the carnivore diet on Spotify.
The zero carb helped me heal my gut but after about six months it didn't feel right so I added some onions, homemade kombucha and herbal teas and I'm feeling much better...
I’ve had the same experience. After about a year I didn’t feel great on strict carnivore so I tried AB and I felt amazing at first but it only took 3 months for all my chronic conditions to come back - HI, RA, IBS, anxiety, depression, brain fog - so I’m back to a relaxed version of carnivore. If I feel like a piece of fruit I’ll have it, or a teaspoon of honey/maple syrup, a small portion of low toxin vegetable occasionally. I definitely do best 99% carnivore as well but eating the occasional low toxin food seems to feel more sustainable for me and I have less leg cramps. I’m going to try the boron though for leg cramps that you recommended in another video. Also, do you think if we’re mostly eating ground beef in my case, not steak, so never cooked rare, that we could be deficient in taurine? And what would that do? Thanks for a great video!
Sorry to hear that. My wife is one month into strict carnivore due to chronic illnesses and she feels great. However, now I'm worried that it'll eventually level off. I wonder what's causing people to not feel great on carnivore after prolonged adherence.
@ I’m back to 99% carnivore and feeling amazing. I’m not sure why some of us seem to need a little plant material, I think probably because that’s more ancestral than 100% carnivore based on what indigenous tribes ate pre colonial times. There was always some plants even if only minimal and seasonal such as wild berries, mushrooms, roots, nuts and tubers plus occasional leaves in early spring. This is the diet I’m currently trying to replicate. No daily plant matter but occasionally seems to keep me feeling great. Watch this doctor’s video on the mineral boron and have your wife look into taking it. It could be reason why.
Yes please tell us what you eat in a week😉 Do you fast at all? Carnivore is a healing, elimination type of diet so after a period of healing it may be time to go back to more normal eating introducing healthy carbs back in slowly. Not all the garbage. 🤷🏽♀️
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If you want me to do a video about my experience on the Animal Based Diet, comment below 👇
Yes please do since a lot of us have done own own tweaks along the way some good some bad
yes please
Yes. I also went from carnivore to AB and have been gaining weight. I am doing some trials but it may help to understand your experiences and some possible options or recommendations with carb restriction.
@@Themeatmedic yes please!
I just heard that sodium can deplete potassium. I'm going to take a potassium supplement to see if it helps.
I started carnivore 10 months ago. It began strict, the benefits and body changes were huge, but I've also listened to my body and have found more balance. If I feel like a few cups of yogurt, I eat and enjoy it. If my daughter is chopping up some fresh carrots, I grab a small handful and love ever bite of it. I'm 99% carnivore but I'm not a monk :). And that balance has allowed me flexibility, great results and to look and feel amazing at 55.
I’m coming up on my full year. I’ve lost 100 pounds. I’ve incorporated blueberries and milk in small amounts. After my annual weigh in I’ll decide whether I want or need to go strictly carnivore. I think I’ll always use it to stay where I am now.
So it’s basically carnivore but with a hint of “don’t let perfect get in the way of good”🙏 this is definitely the way do do stuff in life❤
Yeah basically 😂
So it is like "dirty" carnivore.
I transitioned from carnivore to animal based diet because I wasn't sleeping well and feeling weak when working out. So I went animal based with just one fruit (orange or grapefruit or berries) daily, near the end of the day. I also eat a small amount of cooked veggies, especially esparagus and broccoli. I sleep better and have more energy while not gaining weight. So for now I will stick to that.
So simply eating one piece of fruit per day helped sleep etc.?
You are not alone who turn in to Ray peat approach
How much carbs do you consume daily?
@@khaldounsamman9128 sounds very reasonable to me. Not all of us are overweight or have health issues. Some are active n healthy and want to stay that way. Food is medicine.
Strict Carnivore here for 463 days because it suits me. Listen to our bodies and do what works best. Thx Suresh.
Gross! You are eating body parts weirdo! Your body is made from other bodies... that's sick.
How much have you lost? No cheat meals?
@ In that time I’ve not counted calories or weighed myself. I feel at my optimal weight. Wish I’d found this way of eating decades ago.
@@kwimms It's sad that you hate yourself so much that you will deny yourself the foods your body biologically requires. You aren't a herbivore.
The concept of health in "The 23 Former Doctor Truths" book completely explains this. I wish I read it sooner.
I was an on and off vegan for years. And I tried but never could stick with it. I recently began a carnivore diet. This way of eating is very sustainable for me. While I was eating a vegan diet I always wanted a big fat burger with bacon 😊 And, now, I can have that anytime I want.
Without the bun, of course!
You were NEVER vegan. Vegan is an ethical lifetime commitment for the animals. There is NO going back. You obviously had no idea how to eat plant based so you succumbed to your selfish desires for decaying animal flesh. Congratulations.
@@suzyvegalicious5646 It is not 'unethical' to eat animals. But it may be against your PERSONAL morals. That's your personal choice and should NOT impact other people.
Veganism was originally just a diet. It had absolutely nothing to do with animal welfare until animal rights activists got involved and took over, kicking out the very man who had originally invented the diet and set up the organisation.
Until humans aquire the adaptations to live exclusively on plant material (which no animal does) we cannot be healthy excluding animal products from our diet. In fact the hominin species who tried that de-evolved and died out.
@@jg5755It is totally unethical and evil to kill another living being when there is no need whatsoever to do so. Thou shalt not kill applies to all living sentient beings even though you pretend that it is only for humans, but you are WRONG. It has nothing to do with personal morals. It is NEVER a choice when there is a victim. When you eat a muredered being you are taking in not just decaying flesh but all the negative energy of the animal who felt fear and pain while dying. This becomes your karma. If you are so sure that what you are doing is ethical then what I say should not bother you at all
@@suzyvegalicious5646WFPB for great health.
You are a good man and a good doctor. We need so many more of you spreading this message. You found your sweet spot, and that should be the goal for everyone.
I appreciate that, and yes that's the goal I think for everyone. I think these things are really useful part of the journey, as much as we may not like the results, as long as we learn from it, then it's useful and not a mistake.
I have been 99% carnivore for a year, best thing for me. I do add garlic, onions and ginger cooking my beef. Eat fish, eggd, butter. Occasional crave a fruit once a week. I think everyone should tweak as the body wants
same here carbs made me fat
Intuitive eating 🙂
@@GuitarsAndSynths Calories made you fat.
@@oabh1808.....no😊
I agree with you, but it is the mind that tells us to eat fruit as it is the addictive nature of glucose that tricks us into eating something sweet. The body doesn't really need it for optimal health.
Just a thought! I am carnivore about 95+% of the time for 7 months now. I train bodybuilding style for the last 52 yrs, 63 yrs now. Body fat about 10-12%. We had the work Christmas party early this year. I ate everything as if I was off the 95% carnivore plan. Beers, chips, ham and cheese sandwiches, moonshine (my own
of course), one or two chocolate cookie candy things and the main meal of carnitas, corn and potatoes. I weighed myself @ 81.5 kilos or 179.3lbs at 5'6"s tall the next two days were like having a hangover from all the carbs and processed crap. Know before you all think I drank too much. I usually have a few beers and shine on the weekends. Never feel bad the next day. I weighed myself the morning after the party and was 84.7kilos or 186.3lbs. it took 3 days before I was back to my 81.5 kilos and NO it was not worth it. If anyone is going to try something new. Please be patient it takes time for your body to respond. Especially if you have mistreated it for how many YEARS???!!!🤔🤔🤔🤔🤗🤗🤗❤❤❤
Yeh between 95 and 99% is best for me personally depending on how I feel. Brilliant Video. Craig👍
It’s too bad people are looking for specific labels. If you eat mostly meat you are carnivore. The little things no from meat we eat doesn’t make us not carnivore. Only reason to not eat something is if it is detrimental to you feeling good.
A man of integrity.
4 important things in life - Health, family, freedom and integrity.
@@adelarsen9776 freedom (money)
This "man" is a liar and a doctor of nonsense. Wake up.
Family is overrated
summary:
- i quit carbs and went carnivore and i felt amazing
- but it was not so amazing, so i add carbs (fruits and honey) and i felt amazing
- but it was not so amazing… so reduce carbs again and go carnivore again… and i felt amazing!!
aaaaaaaaall right man!! you got it!!! 👌👌
err... yeah he sounds like a clueless addict
Interesting to hear that you're doing pretty much what I've been doing. What's great about staying close to carnivore is that when you add this or that in that last 1 to 5%, you can tell how it affects you (for better or for worse) and make tweaks based on your experience :)
I'm formerly from Brissy, now live in the land of mountains, cheese and chocolate. I've been carnivore for 2 years now and I 100% agree with you regarding finding what works best for you. I've been very strict and also quite lax (maybe 85%) and am now somewhere between 95 - 99%. I certainly notice when I add too many carbs back into my diet, this may be general wellbeing, body composition low energy levels or struggling for recovery after exercise. For me, the one thing that is most important is my mental health and by not being too strict with my diet, harsh on myself and just listening to my body I feel I'm in a really good place.
It has always been, and always will be, an elimination diet. Can it be a healthy long term solution for many? Absolutely! However, let us not paint it into a corner, where it doesn't leave room for dietary expansion for those who may enjoy some beneficial additions. I believe one mistake was naming it a "carnivore diet" in the first place. It makes many influencers look like flip floppers when they experiment with other foods.
what is an elimination diet?
Talismantra 🤣
@@peppersanches412 I'm serious... should I expect to eliminate more, or is elimination part of the diet (like a gorilla or other copraphage)? (as serious as a rainbow lorikeet can be, anyway)
Agreed 👍🏽
I have messed around with these diets for a long long time. Since 1995. I always feel best somewhere in between carnivore and keto. I add in a few veggies a few berries etc. congrats on experimenting.
How does the diet go for you? I think initial clean carnivore is good to "clear and cleanse" and after that it should be OK to play a little "dirty" with some fruits and veggie
the biggest reasons why carnivore doesnt always work long term for some people is 2 reasons. One is that they eat too much protein and not nearly enough fat, not even close. when youre zero carb and then also too low on fat and high on protein, your body has to get energy from carbs since youre not giving it enough fat. so it uses the amino acids from the protein to use that for fuel. that is a very very inefficient way of energy metabolism and requires a lot of nutrients which you will get depleted in. if youre however eating enough fat and keep protein low enough so it doesnt turn into glucose, you will burn ketones instead of glucose, this gives a lot more energy and is way more efficient for your mitochondria and spares a lot more nutrients than burning glucose does. you have to imagine that our ancestors ate WAY more fat than we do now. mammoths and other megafauna were extremely fatty and we used to live on that, not on lean cuts of steak that the people in the west are so used to nowadays. in europe, especially eastern europe the fat is still prized, common and normal to consume, but not so much in the US.
second reason why carnivore doesnt always work for everyone is the lack of organ meats, especially liver, brain and bone marrow. these are nutritional powerhouses and we definitely ate those throughout our history. eating just muscle meat might give some deficiencies for some people.
So, the two main issues why carnivore doesnt always work for everyone, is because theyre still burning glucose, but through a very inefficient process and an inefficient energy source: protein. we need to use FAT if we dont consume carbs. and second is the nutrient deficiencies by not eating nose to tail, as we always would have done in our history as human beings.
all the best everyone
What ratio of fat and protein do you recommend?
@@normameyers4904You're asking a bot who's promoting organs. 50-50 is good.
@@evanmotions your body willl adapt to what you feed it.
Just eat things that you would find in the wild ?
@@normameyers4904 fat to protein ratio of 2:1 in grams. That is a lot of fat compared to what most carnivores are used to. This ratio is based on the work of Zsófia Clemens who has a clinic in hungary. They are known for healing and reversing very aggressive cancers and autoimmune disorders with just food alone. Meat, fat and organs. Look her up on RUclips or check out PaleoMedicina 🙏🏻
@@KmusikOne of course I'm promoting organs, they're the most nutrient dense foods on the planet and we used it eat it for hundreds of thousands of years, why would i not promote it. If you're doing fine on a 1:1 ratio of fat to protein ratio then enjoy, this message was for the people that it doesn't work for and i gave 2 logical answers of why that could be. All the best
Thanks for sharing no need to apologize you are a great source of inspiration and information. Keep Shining and keep sharing
The issue he had initially is chronically low insulin. Which it seems is required to tell the kidney to retain electrolytes.
Which is why "adding sugar" worked, raised insulin temporarily. But you only need a bit. ~20-50 g a day mostly in 1 meal.
The carnivore alternate fix is eat a lot of protein in 1 meal. ~140g ish. Which also bumps insulin.
That will be all.
I would sometimes eat 1kg tomahawk in one sitting, and no that didn’t fix it.
@@Themeatmedic Seriously? That's crazy.
The milk's more convenient anyway.
@Themeatmedic so generally you have seen in your own case and your clients that 20 grams of carbs can provide that necessary insulin. I am really struggling on carnivore for over a year. It's been draining to say the least. Doing it for mental health reasons
@@asdf1991asdf have you tried doubling your food intake?
Yeah, and I eat enough. I think it is either I'm not producing enough of an insulin spike, or my elextrolytes are imbalanced.
My oxalate dumping experience was awful, it expressed itself as a huge dump of kidney stones into my bladder and passing them took 3 days of very painful urination and resulting in what felt like a mild bladder infection with darker urine and diarrhea and all cleared up after 4 days. This happened 3 months after starting strict carnivore diet just beef and fat and with no transition from 10 years vegetarian.
oxalate dumping is not real
I feel 10-15 g carb is very sustainable. Your body has insulin to protect your blood. We just don’t have enough insulin for 100g a day without inducing insulin resistance
I started with keto and transitioned to carnivore for three months. After that, I added small quantities of berries and low GI veg. I feel this is sustainable, and my weight is stable.
Yes, I did basically the same as you. The transition was very easy for me. I think most people would benefit from keto first, and then slowly switching onto carnivore.
My favorite quote: minds are like parachutes, they only work when open. 😊 Everyone wants a black and white answer, but often the best approach is somewhere in the grey. We are meant to adapt.
Hm... Dubious at best. Life is full of black, white, and grey. To discern is what matters. While your parachute might work better, the contents of the mind might also fall on the ground. 🤔
I love how I feel on carnivore, but I get massive muscle cramps that don't resolve even with electrolyte supplements. I've been dancing with going back on carnivore, but I work a very physical job and can't risk getting those cramps again.
I was really strict for about 3 months but then nearly went insane because I really don't like a red meat without some sort of flavouring
It was unsustainable for me
So now I add pepper, curry powder, onion powder, and garlic powder.
I also add some chopped onions
Did you know that you can buy frozen chopped onions?
They are very convenient for people who have trouble slicing food or who don't use too much of an onion up at once
I don't know if the flavourings are doing me any harm batkamma the fact is, the carnivore diet was not sustainable for me without them
Try a nice Buerre Blanc sauce. Garlic, shallots, butter, white wine.
😁
@TeresaLipot yum
I found out Onions were causing my pain in my arms...I do NOT use anything but Salt Iodine...
@carnivorecave
That's the BEAUTY of Carnivore. EVERYONE can do what's BEST for their bodies!!!
Absolutely. Honestly, some of it sounds fanatical. Sounds like swinging the pendulum too far. Everyone is different. Sustainability matters. Being so strict often leads to wide swings. I've read so many comments about falling off the wagon n gaining 50lbs or more before starting over. Better to figure out what is doable long term. I increased my meat n fat n cholesterol went passed 300! That's with regular intense weight training n regular walking n some hiit training. My weight is fairly stable as I didn't have but 8 lbs to lose. Suffered from insomnia, muscle cramps n frequent urination and just cut sugars, seed oils, processed foods. Lost 10lbs in 3 weeks. Still figuring this out after 15 months. Hubby had to add in more carbs. Too skinny and we are both seniors. Gotta find the right zone
I absolutely agree. I have been at it for 18 months. I’m about 99% carnivore too and it works for me.
I'm beginning my third year of carnivore on January 1, 2025. I've been 99% carnivore with only a few carbs (under 50) every once in a while and my body has been changing all throughout it with the only problem being my sleeping, Lately, I've been thinking about having some vegetables infrequently so, I think that's my body giving me a 'head's up'. Also, I made one little change that seems to have helped my sleeping and that's adding heavier blankets during the cold nights. Usually, I hate anything heavy or constricting. Again, the thought never even popped up. I just found myself adding the blanket.
I'm finding the best advice in the comments of this video, much better than any of the 1000's of other carnivore videos I've watched. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE!
Better advice on the comments than the video
@@mattnieri1202 90 percent bots promoting fruit, dairy, organs, etc. Everything to get people to fail carnivore.
@@mattnieri1202 From the bots promoting everything that causes people to fail this diet?
I've been on the Carnivore WOE for just about a year. I still love it and still feeling the benefits. I intend to continue. However, I am adding back some low carb, low fiber, low oxalate fruits like zucchini,or blueberries, I have the occasional handful of macadamia nuts or walnuts. An avocado or two or some coconut milk. etc. Some of these are seasonal from my garden. I plan to continue adding more ingredients to begin to make a dish that I feel good about eating maybe 1 or 2x a month. To me the carnivore diet is a touchstone of my good health. I will eat it most days but will be willing to have a different taste a couple days a month. I find that if I get out of control I just start a 24 -36 hour fast right after I finish my cheat meal. I love going back to strict carnivore.
I have been trying carnivore for a couple of weeks now. I prefer to have a little veg with my steak and maybe a kefir yogurt for after. I’m feeling very well and have lost 5 pounds in weight. One should definitely listen to your body, just eating meat wasn’t for me but I do eat eggs as well as very little cheese. Thanks for all the information.
Ok wow I’ve basically come to exactly tbat same conclusion!! I just need that little bit of carbs. I have added yoghurt some cheese, a bit of milk and some pickles and I’m feeling SO much better. I was actually having issues with eggs and once I dropped them I felt worse but my throat healed up. So that’s all been a bit tricky. I think it’s good to have a little flexibility. I love how Dr Bright occasionally has something for social reasons like scones. It’s all very individual. Thanks for being brave enough to adapt and be open x
Thank you for sharing your journey and for your transparency Suresh! I appreciate you, your videos, your podcasts, and your Facebook group - and love that you are personally interactive.
I love to see people like you and Saladino bc you're not afraid to show you're trying different things instead of the harsh/condescending tone and dogma that people like Chaffee can have. They'll say a "truth" or part of a truth and then conveniently leave out other things.
@@thebagelchief1140 You mean the unhealthy people with horrible diets? Keep eating your bagels.
@@KmusikOne what are you talking about? Btw i'm happily carnivore... the handle is from years ago.
I like carnivore with kimchi, avocado, and jalapenos
Your experiences will help us consider and or avoid some of the outcomes that may not work for us. It's good to learn from your mistakes and experiences but it's better to learn from the mistakes and positive experiences of others and avoid negative outcomes. Thanks for sharing the rabbit holes you have gone down and the tweaks you've made along the way.
Thanks. I do similar - not being fanatic, but also eat lots of fish, specially Salmon, beef lamb pork; also liver.
And all kind of spices. If craving for a desert I allow some greek Yoghurt 10% fat, fattened up with heavy full crem and a few berries. But it needs to stay snack size, after the meat never more than ca 100g and once a week or so. I lost 7-8 Kg in 8 month - never been hungry - eating as much as I wan
Hey doc!
Your video where you "quit the carnivore diet" actually got me a bit worried and made me do some more research. You know how that is... we don't really have good data in that regards but bits and pieces we try to glue together to form a hypothesis that makes some sense. This is what I wanted to share with you:
I found some resources suggesting the 6-9month mark is a microbiome issue. (same as the -approx. - 1 month mark and 2 year mark) (There was a single video that covered this well but I seem to have forgotten to bookmark it :( )
I also, from my own experience and some sources that support the idea, think the season matters. Yes, well, for us who have seasons, probably. Something that might have something to do with deuterium? Idk but it kind of explains why Saladino can get away with what he's doing, living where he lives, and you can't ;) + he's very active so he offsets the extra carbs that way too.
Anyway, lemme know what you think.
At the 9 month mark, I alos started feeling off and took advice from some who suggested berries, some other fruit, avo and a little honey. Well, after experimenting I felt much worse. Had constant headache. I coldn't balance my electrolytes and i gained fat. So I cut out the carbs except for small amount of milk and it took 3 months to recover properly. Now it's been 2 years and I'm thriving.
I’m having the toughest time balancing my electrolytes full carnivore like truly feeling awful no LMNT or anything is helping. I don’t know what to do
@NikkiDawes-x2t Took me a while to sort mine out. Eventually realised that I was getting more than enough potassium from meat and eggs so stopped adding any. Excess potassium also reduces your salt. So I now make sure I get enough salt - always add it to my water - and just take a magnesium glycinate capsule in the evening before bed.
For me, I can't do any sugar. It aggravates my lifelong epilepsy. So I'm a strict carnivore. I also had to eliminate all cheeses because though I felt awesome, it was stalling me out. Since I dropped the cheeses, I've started to lose body fat again. I've also stopped adding extra fats - just eating the fat that comes with the meat and whole eggs. Eating a stick of butter doesn't work for me for fat loss either and it makes sense - if you're eating energy, your body will use the excess energy before it taps into its own stored energy. So it seems like people as slender as steak and butter gal can get away with eating sticks of butter and cheese.. they don't have any excess fat to lose. My excess fat wasn't going anywhere until I reduced my extra added fats and cheeses. I will reintroduce them when I get to my ideal weight for my size and use them as maintenance tools! But yeah.. this diet, the proper human diet, is perfect for humans, you just tweak it for your own personal goals!
When you start feeling a bit shaky on the carnivore diet it usually is an electrolyte issue. Not a carb issue. But once being metabolically flexible some carbs now and then won't hurt.
Yeah but if you have played around with electrolytes ad naesum to no result, and then a small amount of carb settles thd electrolyte issue that wasn't solved with salt etc. then it was carbs that were the answer. Some people need that small amount and it isn't surprising that not everyone is at their best on zero carb.
@@asdf1991asdf💯! Paul Saladino explains It best in his videos, but some people would just rather claim electrolyte or carb addiction problem which is ridiculous.
@@catsrus2890 That doesn't justify the amount of carbs he added back to his diet, especially in the form of fructose. Saladino's issue to me was always three things: not enough food for someone so active, too much organ consumption, and not enough fat. I don't recall he ever mentioning electrolytes, so I can't say for sure he was lacking them, but maybe it's a fourth problem, yes.
@@fabioriato Paul doesn't have to justify anything. Paul is a very athletic person, with surfing, weight lifting and everything else that he does... Contrast that with Anthony Chaffee who has said on many occasions that he rarely exercises and his girlfriend Elle said it too. As one guy said, Chaffee is more juiced than a Capri Sun. 😂 He's most likely taking something to maintain that muscle look when he doesn't exercise much. I watched Chaffee for a year and I heard him say it several times. Most very athletic people need carbs. Paul also has said in numerous videos that after a year on the Carnivore Diet when he started feeling poorly, that he tried everything including tweaking the electrolytes... and nothing worked until he added in the fruit and then he finally felt better. Happy New Year!🎉
Thank you for your straightforward and honest talk ---- I could really relate to so many things you said ---- I was a carb and sugar addict since I was a little girl --- Carnivore eating has been so beneficial for me for the last few years --- I feel so much better eating this way, as well as eating less often --- I vary things according to what I am doing each day --- I just found you today, and will now be a subscriber ❤️
Yep. I add milk and some kiwis. I have no desire to add a bunch of fruit, but a little bit helps tremendously. Strict carnivore doesn't make much sense for most healthy people.
This was super helpful. My first trial of carnivore was for 30 days. It was tough, but very beneficial. Then I did 2 more weeks with my wife. I struggled with the idea of sticking with it for 6 months or longer without a single bite of fruit or anything. My gut instinct was that a couple berries or banana every 2-3 weeks had to be better than abandoning carnivore altogether. Your experience and explanation helped me think through what works best for me. Thank a bunch.
I truly believe the amount of carbs we over eat that are unnecessary if we are only a little active, will be the key factor when weight gain happens. The best diet is carnivore with low carb in the form of raw dairy like milk. Honey can be added IF you are very active and your body calls for it. Good rule of thumb is carnivore diet with carbs added in to an amount equal to the amount of energy you use a day. If you’re not very active, carnivore with a glass or two of raw milk a day. If you’re mildly active, raw milk, honey, and whatever other carbs agree with you that are animal based. Fruit might be a challenge while on carnivore considering many fruits seem to make people feel gassy who give it a try after being carnivore, safe bets are milk, yogurt, and honey. I would bet carnivore,plus raw milk and honey if needed, are the absolute best combination
Btw, when he said he was eating 250g of carbs my eyes went wide and was like DUH! That’s why he gained weight! That’s hella carbs!! He must not have ever been into diet and weight lifting bc he said he works out lightly but the amount of carbs he was eating was for someone working out hard at the gym.
I think you’re absolutely correct. A 99% carnivore diet may work best for most folks - definitely for the long haul. It’s worked wonders for me. Thank you for the clarification on your personal diet.
100% would work even better.
I have a short list of foods that I love and they love me back. When I stick to that, I feel great!
I started a strict carnivore 3 years ago. I think it is really important to stay strict at the beginning to repair the leaky gut problems that were causing a lot of health issues for me. After 6 months I experimented with Paul Saladinos animal base diet. The small amount of fruit, honey, and carbs that I eat have not changed my weight or made me feel bad at all. I do believe to keep doing a carnivore style diet long-term you need try to eat as much variety as you can handle.
Yes, I've had similar experiences to you and ended up similarly. My love of sweetness in food has gotten me gaining weight a bit, but then I'd fast and reset back closer to pure carnivore. I tried your diet too. Currently I experiment with iodine which is giving me the energy I've craved. I like to experiment and see what works...
Yes please, would love to know what you eat/drink in a day. Thanks for the information - lovely to hear from a fellow Queenslander.
Thanks. This is timely. I’ve been a bit afraid to experiment because when I fall off it’s usually hard. I’ve had an occasional salad with my steak. Seems ok. But a couple weeks ago I really went wild with one or two meals. I was able to real it back in quickly.
Thanks for your honesty, I find 100% carnivore very difficult and my constant failure at it has made me feel bad resulting in binging and weight gain after I originally lost 20 kilos with low carb and fasting. The idea of 95-99% sounds more achievable for me as well. Thank you 😊
I can relate. People like us need the more flexible approach.
Appreciate you, I just stopped strict carnivore based on my blood work. My shbg was very high and I wasn't taking boron. So now I'm eating fruits, veggies,honey and a small amount of rice daily to try and get those shbg numbers down. Any male doing carnivore needs his free test and shbg numbers.
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I don't understand why some people think drinking raw milk or eating dairy and cheese is not strict carnivore... 🤷♀️
But then they say coffee is ok.. 😆
I know 🤦
Fruit and carbs keep my addictions alive NTY strict carnivore for life. I feel amazing @ 55 compared to dieing a few years back before carnivore!
The strict carnivore diet is good for some people and they always say you should find the one diet that fits you maybe it's the strict carnivore and maybe it's eating some hamburgers now and then.
I think you’ve found the sweet spot! I am carnivore but I do a tiny serving of berries in the morning with breakfast and I dont feel like I’m missing out anymore. I dont miss vegetables at all. I think animal based is good for those with extremely high metabolism who are losing way more weight than they want to. For those of us who gain weight easily I think we need to keep carbs to one serving a day or less.
It takes a big man to share and be honest about your journey so far. I've also been on a similar journey on the Carnivore diet with similar conclusions. You have helped me by confirming that I was on the correct path. Thank you 😊
Thank you. above all I want to be transparent. we're all on a learning journey, and there are no definitive answers. anyone who deals in absolutes doesn't know what they are talking about.
@Themeatmedic Amen to that Doc.
I appreciate your content and honesty as i struggle with the carnivore dogma. Ive also struggled with the diet now for more than a year. Have you found clients that add 20-30 grabs of carbs literallly improve to the point or the diet actually working for them? @@Themeatmedic
I had experiences with hand cramps after switching from SAD to Carnivore and back to SAD again.
The cramps were never present until after returning to SAD from Carnivore.
Interesting
I love that hoodie... I can see that this is your own logo on it, but the fit and material looks great!
Where did you get that hoodie before doing the logo stamp? Thanks
Such informed, balanced, sensible information!
Kudos for this one Doc. 👏. Yes your passionate perspective came through looking to challenge other drs promoting carnivore. We are all on a journey and we need to be open to new information, else we are part of the dogma problem. I am one who classes dairy as carnivore. If someone disagrees and can explain it properly then sure I can accept their view as their view. I have coffee ( my only vice), but still class myself as carnivore ( I'm going to watch your other video re coffee and your hospital visit shortly)
Keep well, and as Nick Norwitz says, stay curious
I've been what I call 'almost carnivore' for at least 3 years, reversed reduced kidney function, hypertension, the need for a knee replacement and the athritis that was part of the need for the surgery, the colpased fracture in my patella according to my surgeon in his own words 'seems to be repairing itself', also massively reduced a chronic sinus problem I've had since I was a kid which had got to the point where within a couple of weeks after getting over the last sinus infection another one would be starting
Haven't been on any medication for over 2 years whereas it used to eleven of them, allsorts of other beneficial changes, weight was never a huge problem for me but at 60 years old I'm back to the shame sort of shape was as a keen martial artist in my twenties
Aside from the meat, fish & eggs I do have some dairy sourced from local farms including raw milk, eat some vegetables about twice a week, mainly onions, peppers and leafy greens, also what we Brits call chips twice a week, double-fried in beef dripping [tallow]
So I would definitely agree that a small amount of carbs alongside eating mostly meat and eggs can definitely work, and it does make it more sustainable, I do about 3 days a week of completely carnivore, also do time-restricted feeding style intermittent fasting where I tend to eat all my food within a 6-8 hour window, one day a week I'll only eat once and every 6-8 weeks I'll do a fast around 36 hours
After 5 or 6 years of experimentation that seems to be what works best for me
Excellent watch Ive subscribed, it was great to hear your point of view, at the Meat Up last night with Dave, valid in many of your patients. I was thinking on the way home that in that 9 months carnivore I was a bit "topsy turvy" as well, being an acupuncturist I thought it was not unlike a "healing crisis", I just kept pushing through it not unlike getting to new levels in fitness or life itself. As in "nothing in nature is a straight line". I can honestly say for me at around 12 months my fat adaption smoothed out immensely. I'm wondering if this could be transitional fat adaption stage? cheers Robin 🤔
I've found that doing my own tweaking of my diet, which I usually describe as Ketovore, about 85% Carnivore, and the rest non-starchy veggies, works best for me.
Im sure you correct. I tried full carnivore and i was perfect untill 3 months. I was extremely lacking in energy and "life-force" I now eat ONE slice of bread every 3 days or so and drink half a cup of milk every few days. I feel excellent.
This approach is treating nutrition as science rather than religion. We each have a personal theory based on what we've learned - no-one should be afraid of admitting that part of it isn't working, and should adjust their theory accordingly .. and then experiment, and see how well it works (or not).
This year I started doing the same. I think there is really a seasonality to it. I don’t believe I am meant to be eating much carbs in the winter, just as it would have been pre globalism. Spring and Summer carbs are naturally and abundantly available. I break ketosis during that time.
Need to experiment to find out what works for the individual. Be very interesting to see what you eat in a day/week.
I don't know if you follow Prof Bart Kay, but he has said in several of his videos, that many people who jump straight into the deep end of carnivore (practically) overnight, will experience the bliss of carnivore for about 6 months. Then between 6 and 9 months (sound familiar?) things fall apart, sometimes quite graphically. He said it had something to do with what the sudden switch does to the microbiome but the problem doesn't tip over into trouble until about 6 months in. I'm sorry, I can't remember exactly what the reason was - all I needed to remember was don't go Lion Diet overnight because bad things will happen 6-9 months later - but maybe you can find it on his channel (or carnivore tribe channel).
I doubt it’s a microbiome issue, that’s far too long. Maybe a few days to a week or 2 max. Microbiome changes are pretty acute.
Thanks Doc. Awesome.👍
I've gone from keto to carnivore to what you call your Primal FUsion WOE. I eat a few berries, milk and salad greens, beeg, chicken, eggs, nut meal, collegen powder. Prep and cook all my own food. My health is improving. 😊
Amazing glad you’ve found your sweet spot
@Themeatmedic wish you were here in Sydney as it's hard to find a GP like you here🙂
@@genevievehandley7106 a lot of the docs do consulting on line. Dr Paul Mason is in Sydney.
After you become fat adapted, increase carbs to 50-100 per day from whole food sources. Sweet potato-carrots-fruit at the end of the meal.....and number 1 rule: don't OVEREAT
I’ve been animal based for 8 years, mostly carnivorous and lion at times. Pure carnivore eliminated my interstitial cystitis symptoms but foot pain and back pain did not go away. I’ve tried numerous experiments with adding plants. My IC symptoms always return And my poo, while beautiful little snakes,are infrequent. I need to learn how to use just enough plants to go more regularly. I can’t do raw milk. Too addictive for me.
How a person eats on a Ketovore/Carnivore diet depends on where you are in your Journey. Are you trying to Heal all the Inflammation in your Body or Dealing with an Auto Immune disease or trying to Reverse Type 2 Diabetes. (you need A Lion diet or very strict Carnivore), are you trying to Loose weight (you need a Keto Diet, Ketovore or Dirt Carnivore Diet)
Perhaps oxalate dumping! I get waves of weakness and fatigue…. VERY strong black tea and 2 small squares of very dark chocolate… 90 mins later, dumping HALTS.
Knowing how toxic vegetables are I will never eat them again, I am in my second year eating the carnivore way, I am making Holiday Cheese Cakes.
Got some good tips from her! Thanks!
Something's take time.
I have been on the carnivore diet for over 10 months and it has taken me this long to stop feeling exhausted all the time
Before that I was on a standard western diet which included meals on wheels food
Very unhealthy
Don't expect instant results for chronic series medical issues
I started carnivore about 2 months ago but I couldn’t give up my dairy or berries, so I essentially am doing his primal diet and have never felt better! Dropped 10lbs in a little over a month
so happy! honestly, many in the carnivore space do this, they just aren't open about it.
Glad I found boron!! Looking forward to seeing your journey.
Bravo! Invaluable information and wonderful example! I have the same mindset. Thank you for the video that gives me huge encouragement.
I have had the same journey and have come to a very similar conclusion!
I couldn't do strict carnivore. I feel the best 90 plus percent carnivore, but I add non starchy or lo glycimic fruits & vegetables, some sweet potatoes once or twice a week, berries, honey, walnuts, and grapefruit just hit the spot. Some aged cheese is ok. I literally feel better than ever.
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I feel the same.. I am trying strict carnivore but I am suffering a lot with insomnia... adding some carbs back and improving..
Add a spoon full of honey before bed For a couple of days a week. 3 days with honey, 4 days without
@kellerdane07 thanks.. I will try tonight!!!
Another possible help could be adding in more fat. It did not work for me, though, but it may be worth a try before going to carbs. What has worked for me is supplementing with higher dose iodine. I also enjoy other benefits from iodine. Everybody is different so just try different things for a decent amount of time and see if it works. All the best.
@@manyblessings917 the fat didn't work for me either... I will try the iodine.. thanks
@lccorso right now I take 8-10 drops of Lugol's 2percent. I am less cold, have more energy during the day and sleep better. I just bought Lynn Farrow's book and continuing to learn about it. Dr. Brownstein is the expert and has a book too. I am finding that I can get better info from Yandex search engine since Google and the rest of the western world search engines filter out so much useful info. All the best.
The whole idea of trying to make names for diets is dogmatic and that is what causes the problem imo. People try to put themselves in these diets dogmatically and it creats confusing. What I have found is there is a simple formula: stay away from processed foods. Eat foods as high a quality and as you can. I keep to four Fs........Fruit, Fowl, Fish and Flesh. I change the arrangement and amounts based on how my body feels and I no longer count calories. I intermittent fast regularly as that seems to keep my body balanced. Its really not that complicated, but it took me 40 years to arrive at it.....after many dogmatic diets created by many people.
I jumped between both for same issue. First meal is zero carbs I’ll eat a few eggs and some sort of meat then I’ll just drink water with my salts during the day about a hr before coming home I’ll eat a protein/ potato meal then when I get home I go weight lift during the work out I’ll drink lemon water with honey to get the best work out and go hard. Then after working out I’ll eat met potatoes with fruit and then I’m good
😮 A team of researchers at Loma Linda University in the United States has shown vegetarian men live for an average of 10 years longer than non-vegetarian men - 83 years compared to 73 years. For women, being vegetarian added an extra 6 years to their lives, helping them reach 85 years on average.
Bravo!!! I love your approach and attitude. I have 3 questions:1) Is it really bad to gain weight to some degree? Isn't fat a good fuel storage for one? It's possible to have real food shortage in the future. 2) Is "all plants are trying to kill you" true in all context? 3)is there a way to take advantages from both meat and plants (directly， with proper cooking)?
Yes, I would like to see what you eat in a week. It would help me sort out the diet. Thanks
I think you are looking at this from the wrong perspective. You started experiencing some issues not because the diet was somehow incorrect but because your body is reducing threshold of sensitivity to food. You ate something and you were OK ,but couple months later the same food becomes problem. About a month ago I started experiencing some severe anxiety. Being on carnivore and eating limited number of foods I knew that something is off but introducing carbs back into a diet was not an option. I did not want to do it. Increasing intake of heavy cream and butter didn’t make things better. Then I realized that I was avoiding eating sardines for couple weeks. Bingo. Anxiety subsided gradually when I started eating sardines again. It would suggest that my body requires right now more of certain elements. I also have to consider that it may change eventually. Human body is not a static thing.
Hi, how does carnivore diet effect stamina and endurance? I'm an ex-bowel cancer patient, losing ~1/3 of my large intestine (lower), have since struggled with food: intake, output, bloating, extreme gas, cramps and general discomfort. I find that on a carnivore type diet i become regular, and most symptoms fade away. However, due to the enduro mx that I undertake, having large energy stores is a must, what effect will carnivore and the encompassed type fasting have on stamina and endurance? Happy to have a verbal convo; If you watch any of my enduro videos, you will see the type of physical and mental strengths I require and situations I put myself into. Cheers Mike.
Also - side note, I am currently listening to your podcasts on the carnivore diet on Spotify.
You should let paul know this ,cause he thinks it's the optimal diet
The zero carb helped me heal my gut but after about six months it didn't feel right so I added some onions, homemade kombucha and herbal teas and I'm feeling much better...
You gained 10 to 15 kg? An estimate? Rounding differences? Don't you have scales? Just curious ...
This is basically a carnivore diet
I’ve had the same experience. After about a year I didn’t feel great on strict carnivore so I tried AB and I felt amazing at first but it only took 3 months for all my chronic conditions to come back - HI, RA, IBS, anxiety, depression, brain fog - so I’m back to a relaxed version of carnivore. If I feel like a piece of fruit I’ll have it, or a teaspoon of honey/maple syrup, a small portion of low toxin vegetable occasionally. I definitely do best 99% carnivore as well but eating the occasional low toxin food seems to feel more sustainable for me and I have less leg cramps. I’m going to try the boron though for leg cramps that you recommended in another video. Also, do you think if we’re mostly eating ground beef in my case, not steak, so never cooked rare, that we could be deficient in taurine? And what would that do? Thanks for a great video!
Sorry to hear that. My wife is one month into strict carnivore due to chronic illnesses and she feels great. However, now I'm worried that it'll eventually level off. I wonder what's causing people to not feel great on carnivore after prolonged adherence.
@ I’m back to 99% carnivore and feeling amazing. I’m not sure why some of us seem to need a little plant material, I think probably because that’s more ancestral than 100% carnivore based on what indigenous tribes ate pre colonial times. There was always some plants even if only minimal and seasonal such as wild berries, mushrooms, roots, nuts and tubers plus occasional leaves in early spring. This is the diet I’m currently trying to replicate. No daily plant matter but occasionally seems to keep me feeling great. Watch this doctor’s video on the mineral boron and have your wife look into taking it. It could be reason why.
Yes, want to hear r what you are eating now. Thanks
Yes please tell us what you eat in a week😉 Do you fast at all? Carnivore is a healing, elimination type of diet so after a period of healing it may be time to go back to more normal eating introducing healthy carbs back in slowly. Not all the garbage. 🤷🏽♀️
Agree the definitions are confusing. I'm mainly meat with small tweaks like you 🎉