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  • Опубликовано: 5 июл 2022
  • I discuss my most hated Punk Rock MBA videos (most dislikes) covering black metal, Babymetal, racism in metal, trap metal, and progressive metal.
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  • @pancakeburglar9361
    @pancakeburglar9361 2 года назад +425

    While I don’t always agree with your takes on certain bands or genres Finn I do appreciate that you offer a perspective that challenges my own views and opinions and find that valuable. Just keep doing what you’re doing dude.

    • @thelittleowl1
      @thelittleowl1 2 года назад +20

      this is me. i love that we disagree. if we just agreed with everything he said, it would be boring.

    • @DeKrischa
      @DeKrischa 2 года назад +3

      I could not have said it better! I am actually not Finn‘s opinion in many cases but I still appreciate listening to it.

    • @Grimeyhoob
      @Grimeyhoob 2 года назад +5

      Couldn’t agree more with your view here. I feel the same. I often don’t agree with Finn, but I find his views to be refreshing and challenging. It’s good to not be in an echo chamber which reinforces your own views all the time.

    • @davis-ns4hu
      @davis-ns4hu 2 года назад +2

      Exactly my take

    • @mrfresh7913
      @mrfresh7913 2 года назад +1

      Bro your trap metal vid got me into gostmane, that guy is epic dude

  • @NateDynamite
    @NateDynamite 2 года назад +77

    Finn has one of the hardest jobs in history: giving his opinion on the internet.

    • @mephistoschiffer4957
      @mephistoschiffer4957 2 года назад +3

      Lmao so hard indeed talk shit to a camera with a microphone and get paid for it

    • @ey3z4ya
      @ey3z4ya Год назад +3

      @@mephistoschiffer4957 it's a joke man

    • @mikedevine242
      @mikedevine242 Год назад +5

      To share an opinion on the internet is to eat shit in the comments.
      Ancient proverb.

    • @theodoreconstantini2548
      @theodoreconstantini2548 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@mephistoschiffer4957 It's hard to do it well, and have a well argued position.

    • @thomo2127
      @thomo2127 Месяц назад

      ​@@mephistoschiffer4957just proving his point

  • @SupaSavage24
    @SupaSavage24 2 года назад +247

    I don’t always agree with you, but you’re always respectful of people and I always respect your takes. It’s what gives you the “I’d like to have a beer with that guy” vibe. Much love Finn!

    • @Szczauqa
      @Szczauqa 2 года назад +7

      Unless you're from Europe, then no respect for you:D

    • @amdphenomII
      @amdphenomII 2 года назад

      @@Szczauqa but he isn't that wrong about we europeans seem a bit dorky haha

    • @CariHelstrom
      @CariHelstrom 2 года назад

      @@amdphenomII the only european that admits it

    • @MrMarcprudhomme1
      @MrMarcprudhomme1 2 года назад +4

      @@Szczauqa It is just projection because he clearly knows his country is the laughing stock of the entire world! 🤣🤣

    • @thelittleowl1
      @thelittleowl1 2 года назад

      @@Szczauqa yep lmao. I say this as a Englishman (idk if I count as European).

  • @camtabor4344
    @camtabor4344 2 года назад +170

    “Conformity repacked as edgy-ness” is the most accurate thing ever said about Black metal and nerds in the basement hate that it’s true. It is what it is lol

    • @Not_Sal
      @Not_Sal 2 года назад

      That’s exactly why I hate black metal

    • @wheelsofmercury
      @wheelsofmercury 2 года назад +3

      I'm a huge black metal fan and even I agree with this.

    • @ogvelociraptor205
      @ogvelociraptor205 2 года назад

      Black Metal died back in the early 90's and now it's nothing more than a power fantasy for Rejects.

    • @ogvelociraptor205
      @ogvelociraptor205 2 года назад

      @@wheelsofmercury The fan's make it cringe via taking the Band's and Lyrics too seriously.

    • @wheelsofmercury
      @wheelsofmercury 2 года назад +1

      @@ogvelociraptor205 I don't take it very seriously.

  • @AndyKazama2
    @AndyKazama2 2 года назад +67

    Despite being a huge fan of European metal, I still enjoy your videos on how cringe you find European metal.

    • @FairyCRat
      @FairyCRat 2 года назад +13

      As a eurometal guy, I do find him hard to believe when he says he doesn't try to piss anyone off.

  • @juicyparsons
    @juicyparsons 2 года назад +24

    This is one of few channels where I actually feel like I can be respected as a black girl metalhead. Now what does that tell you lol
    I usually don't talk to other metalheads past surface level. I think punk rock has much better politics and attitude. Too bad I just don't like punk lol
    Most metalheads assume if you're not a white man you must be a poser. Which is why at concerts you'll see me by my goddamn self and I'm not likely to talk to anybody there

  • @psychoslingers8732
    @psychoslingers8732 2 года назад +62

    The fact that people absolutely hated a video where you exposed racism says it all.

    • @vulpes3018
      @vulpes3018 2 года назад +4

      Huh? So im gonna say that black people are not human and when people dissagree with me I'm gonna use it as argument that I'm right. What are you on about?

  • @HeawyMedal
    @HeawyMedal 2 года назад +38

    as a european metal fan i find your view on europeans and metalheads incredibly hilarious and accurate. keep on keeping on brother \m/

  • @AlCarrollDr
    @AlCarrollDr 2 года назад +5

    Your racism in metal video was, if anything, too easy on racists. Like you point out, punks drove out the racists decades ago. Most metal fans never did the same kind of counter organizing and being willing to fight and risk serious injury and even death to drive out white supremacists.
    I've seen small groups of idiots seig heil at a punk show way back in the 80s and early 90s, 10-15 Nazis. I've seen whole crowds seig heil at metal shows, over two thirds of the audience. NSBM bands don't even have a hard time finding a mainstream club to play at, unlike Nazi skinhead bands.
    And as far as it being hard to be white, you answered, "Maybe in prison, nowhere else." Not even there. Maybe in California...In more than half the prisons in America, all over the south and midwest, it's the white racist gangs who run the prisons working with the crooked white racist guards.

  • @thelittleowl1
    @thelittleowl1 2 года назад +50

    Finn: breathes
    metal fans: HE BREATHED INCORRECTLY.
    This is the reason ive distanced myself from metal fans. they are way too toxic imo.

    • @jacksdad734
      @jacksdad734 2 года назад +2

      Theives of joy.

    • @zekie106
      @zekie106 2 года назад +4

      lol exactly... every convo i have with those guys go like this
      "i like this song"
      "oh you like that song? lol thats not even metal"
      "i like the song cus it sounds good idc if you dont consider ___-core as metal"

    • @SpaghettiWithMeatSauce
      @SpaghettiWithMeatSauce 2 года назад +1

      For real. They care way too much about stuff that doesn't matter

    • @addymurray9400
      @addymurray9400 2 года назад +1

      * breathes in Locrian mode *

    • @ogvelociraptor205
      @ogvelociraptor205 2 года назад +1

      God forbid You venture out into different genre's of Music

  • @northlakeghost
    @northlakeghost 2 года назад +6

    that racism in metal video is one of your best ever. anyone who had a problem with it needs to take a good look in the mirror. the gross comments on the video literally prove the need for the video. come on, people.

  • @lexidarling
    @lexidarling 2 года назад +31

    I liked the indie video. So much middle of the road indie is revered and canonized as “essential listening” or whatever and it breeds this obnoxious insular sacred cow culture. As someone who had enough of that shit in college it was nice to see someone calling out the hipster snob attitude.

    • @FinnMckentyPRMBA
      @FinnMckentyPRMBA  2 года назад +10

      “Sacred cow culture” is a great way to put it

    • @nostrace
      @nostrace 2 года назад +3

      It just feels like the artistry of Indie music is centered around their videos more than the music itself.
      Nice videos, but basic music.

    • @tuwordzzforeya
      @tuwordzzforeya 2 года назад +2

      I’m still trying to figure out if people actually enjoy “In the Aeroplane Over the Sea” un-ironically

    • @phaaaze9984
      @phaaaze9984 2 года назад +1

      @@tuwordzzforeya I think it’s a pretty fun album

    • @thelittleowl1
      @thelittleowl1 2 года назад

      Tbf I didn’t like it because I had no idea what indie was. No offence Finn.

  • @theoriginal0188
    @theoriginal0188 2 года назад +19

    I'd say it's about a 50/50 when it comes to what I agree or disagree with on your channel, but I think that's what I enjoy about it. I don't want to live in an echo chamber. Plus I've learned a lot and have found new artists that I really enjoy on this channel.

    • @jaygage1555
      @jaygage1555 2 года назад +1

      Lol yup half the time I agree half the time I don't 🤷‍♂️ lol

  • @andrewemerson1613
    @andrewemerson1613 2 года назад +16

    I'm a nerd who genuinely love a bunch of the things Finn makes fun of, and that shit is funny. people need to not take themselves so damn seriously

  • @darejohnson2251
    @darejohnson2251 2 года назад +27

    This makes me sad because all you wanna do is have interesting conversations, and move the culture forward to keep it alive, and people are just like "NO FUCK YOU KEEP IT THE SAME AND LET IT DIE"

  • @summeronio9751
    @summeronio9751 2 года назад +36

    Of course anything that points out racism will get a lot of hate, but I appreciate you tackling it

    • @granth81
      @granth81 2 года назад +3

      He didn’t tackle anything, that’s why people didn’t like the video. He accomplished nothing.

    • @summeronio9751
      @summeronio9751 2 года назад +5

      @@granth81 that's 🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢

    • @Radam_Jay
      @Radam_Jay 2 года назад

      @@granth81 nah. They hated it because for one of two reasons. Either they're in denial, or they're racist.

  • @SoundAsleepSpace
    @SoundAsleepSpace 2 года назад +5

    It's so dumb that we cannot talk about things we don't like, cos the people who do actually like it will come and attack us..

  • @rileywitiw6297
    @rileywitiw6297 2 года назад +13

    You had valid criticisms against indie music, but I also think the genre has some pretty significant redeeming attributes. I've always appreciated the huge amount of sonic experimentation in the genre... new instruments, influences, etc. surface regularly, whereas I'm always waiting for something new to happen in my favourite genre, pop punk, and when it does, it's always met with so much blowback and resistance. It also seems to me that indie music has long had more people of colour and women in it than most genres of rock, so they must be doing something right culture-wise.
    That said, I remember the obnoxious Pitchfork days... a lot of indie fans probably haven't heard much criticism come their way and have no idea how to deal with it haha. Try being a scene kid in '08!

  • @jarmalofamerica
    @jarmalofamerica 2 года назад +31

    3:55 this is so true. Thank you for keeping it real Finn. As a black man that plays metal music and loves hip hop as well, I’ve seen and felt this sentiment my entire life. 12:40 proves your point. I loved the video on Racism in metal. You killed that. Defending marginalized groups makes you “a woke cuck” yet racism isn’t an issue. And here I thought it made you a decent human being. Thank you Finn

    • @bamafencer12
      @bamafencer12 2 года назад +2

      Black woman that's been a rock music fan since day one (thanks MTV and VH1), it's getting harder these days. Even going to live shows and having goofy whites questioning me is getting tired

    • @grandtheftauto5588
      @grandtheftauto5588 2 года назад

      If a white person becomes a rapper, won't they get hate being white? Every racial group does stuff like this. My problem is that only white people get criticized for it.

  • @anthonyoram7614
    @anthonyoram7614 2 года назад +6

    Disliking black people is not the same as disliking rap. That the dumbest thing i have ever heard. If a black person told me they hate country and rock I am not gonna assume they hate whites. Just because somebody hates a genre of music mostly made by a certain ethnicity does not mean they hate that ethnicity.

  • @FinnMckentyPRMBA
    @FinnMckentyPRMBA  2 года назад +1

    Join my Discord! discord.gg/9GbTq4d8Pe

  • @xsagradoxcorazonx
    @xsagradoxcorazonx 2 года назад +42

    Hi Finn, as the official babymetal representative I'd like to apologize for the toxic fans. But seriously, love your videos and even though I'm a huge babymetal fan, I've never had an issue with any of your comments on them.
    Keep up the good work!

  • @vyacheslavkhristolyubov413
    @vyacheslavkhristolyubov413 2 года назад +14

    I watch a lot of your videos (I’d say most of the new releases and a large part of the archive) and my suggestion is that people can get angry and / or sad not because of the message (to which you appeal here: “do you disagree that copying someone isn’t progressive?” I think most people would agree) but because of the way you talk about it: you troll / stereotype / make fun / talk shit about stuff you don’t like and music is indeed an important part of people’s lives and identity and they can get sensitive because of that.
    Me personally I don’t care about it - it’s just your style and as a fan of tool and “deft ones” I believe that you often miss the value / point cause you’re not trying to dig into the stuff you’re initially not interested in (surprise-surprise).
    Not saying that you should be nice to everyone (and freedom of speech etc etc) say what you want - but it’s kinda strange to see you being upset with this reaction when you talk like that to people..
    PS never bothered to dislike any of the videos on YT - unless it was total crap which isn’t the case of your clips
    PPS It’s also kinda surprised me how protective (maybe the wrong word) you are in the comments - I expected you to take stuff easier with your style haha

    • @lauren.xo01
      @lauren.xo01 2 года назад +1

      I agree, as a Tool fan, when he disses Tool, it bothers me. Like it’s fine to not like something but I don’t shit on stuff other ppl like so I would like the same curtesy. It’s fine to point out their faults/shortcomings etc but to just say, this stuff is basically noise pollution, that’s not cool

  • @anthonyjmedina1
    @anthonyjmedina1 2 года назад +4

    I'd like to see a video about Dead Kennedys and their influence on punk/music in general.

  • @Spiritofdarkandlonelywater
    @Spiritofdarkandlonelywater 2 года назад +20

    A problem with "indie" music is that it covers such a broad range of music. I could say I like indie, but dislike every band in an indie video described as indie.

    • @doomsdaydanceparty7646
      @doomsdaydanceparty7646 2 года назад +6

      Agreed! He talked about sonic youth in the same breath as the Lumineers, it's rediculous to think of them as similar bands in any way. Indie is just to broad

    • @lauren.xo01
      @lauren.xo01 2 года назад +1

      Indie to me is stuff that doesn’t fit any other category, it’s not pop, rock, metal, rap etc

    • @agonzalez7095
      @agonzalez7095 2 года назад +1

      indie isn't even a genre necessarily like if you look at the UK indie charts you get drill alongside folk, alongside hyperpop alongside Arctic Monkeys

  • @hardcoreeconomist1089
    @hardcoreeconomist1089 2 года назад +6

    As a deathcore fan I feel where you said metal fans don't like bee things being incorporated, until lorna shore people always gave deathcore the piss daily then switched to simping for it

  • @aimeeaztec4601
    @aimeeaztec4601 2 года назад +38

    This was sad for me to watch… it makes me totally despair over the cruelty, stupidity snd ignorance of people. Your content to me is super balanced, and always backed up by solid intelligence and rationality. Hearing your personal opinions is a big part of your appeal to me - I want and love your opinionated content! It honestly hurt me to hear about the shit you’ve had when you’re such an awesome guy and you’ve cheered me up when I’ve been struggling soooo many times. I stand by your channels and what you’ve done to date - you are brave and undefeated snd the best! ❤️

  • @oops6876
    @oops6876 2 года назад +59

    You should quit discussing metal and just stick to talking about metal.

    • @robo567
      @robo567 2 года назад +3

      i agree. i love the periodic table

    • @CruiseControl2012
      @CruiseControl2012 2 года назад +2

      Yes but also no

    • @henrrym5085
      @henrrym5085 2 года назад +1

      No. He has the right to do whatever he wants on his channel

    • @arman-eb3vv
      @arman-eb3vv 2 года назад

      no if you want that go to wikipedia or his first channel.

    • @oops6876
      @oops6876 2 года назад +3

      2 replies that didn’t even finish reading my whole comment. Nice

  • @mikef1867
    @mikef1867 2 года назад +6

    The problem with the indie video was you should have made the grunge video first. The fans would have been so much more pissed off if you called them a continuation of the commercialization of grunge/alternative and it would be sooooo true. Coming from an indie fan

    • @DrowScion1
      @DrowScion1 2 года назад +5

      I would say the main problem with the indie video was how he criticized the actual music. He lumps in bands like the Lumineers and Iron and Wine in virtually the same breath, which shows that 1) Finn isn’t universally effective at music criticism and 2) it makes it seem even more like the video is attacking people

  • @patrickm1533
    @patrickm1533 2 года назад +4

    I grew up in Chicago. Metal kids were pretty cool with everyone. The most racist people I’ve ever meet were all Chicago punk kids. Definitely not all punk kids, most were really cool. But skin heads are a punk crowd, not metal.

  • @OldSchoolMetalVinyl
    @OldSchoolMetalVinyl 2 года назад +45

    The black metal one was priceless and 100% accurate. I still watch it regularly and the comment section made me LOL big times while I was ill with Covid. Thanks Finn, your sense of humor rocks, keep making them metal fans foam at the mouth like there's no tomorrow 👍

  • @chadhenry961
    @chadhenry961 2 года назад +4

    You should do a part 2 and include some videos from this channel, especially the Japanese metal video. Yeah most videos on this channel you are jokingly roasting, but it seemed like you were being pretty serious on the Japanese metal video, and that you really think all the fans are nerdy perverts with Japan fetishes. If you really mean it when you say you don’t want to attack whole fanbases anymore and have them hate you, you should address and clarify that

    • @adreamofwaking
      @adreamofwaking Год назад

      literally what I clieked this video expecting to see

  • @DanielLerch
    @DanielLerch 2 года назад +3

    I thought your arguments about indie rock were deeply flawed, and below your own standards of music discussion. That said I didn’t think hitting the dislike button was worth it after so much great content you’ve provided. Also yes I disagreed with your points but was never “angry” about it.

  • @manelthegreek
    @manelthegreek 2 года назад +2

    Imagine being white and Canadian and still complain how hard life is for you.

  • @RudolfHorvath
    @RudolfHorvath 2 года назад +14

    I love how the amount of dislikes correlate with how rabid the fanbases are, it's funny.

  • @LordWargasm
    @LordWargasm 2 года назад +6

    The bit where you basically say racists in metal are part of why the trap metal video was so disliked is odd. Obviously racists exist to some degree in all facets of life, but it just comes across as a weird way of dismissing people who simply disagree with your opinions.

    • @bengreenbank
      @bengreenbank 2 года назад

      It’s the cheapest shit. Some of the all time metal greats are black.
      I still think trap metal sucks.
      It’s pure Trump tactics to undermine anyone who disagrees with you by just throwing it out there that you’re probably a racist

  • @joecarroll3371
    @joecarroll3371 2 года назад +2

    I think your videos are entertaining, educational & informative. I might occasionally disagree with your takes on music but I can absolutely respect you for your authenticity. You're definitely someone who knows his stuff when it comes to whatever topic you cover.

  • @theghostofinnocentoptimism2714
    @theghostofinnocentoptimism2714 2 года назад +16

    Some of these videos made me confront the toxicity that I had been perpetuating for years.
    I can't speak for everyone, but I personally very much appreciated it. It was something I needed to hear and it's one of the main reasons I subscribed in the first place (that and supporting someone else who recognizes the glory of Spindrift).
    Thanks for all you do man

  • @Linkmitch
    @Linkmitch 2 года назад +7

    All of these video listed have subjective points on contentions that have validity, some that may be a bit shortsighted that could have could have been communicated better but of all the videos I'm surprised he haven't talked about his video on "THE TRUTH ABOUT JAPANESE METAL" pretty sure Finn had more dislikes than likes on it. Perhaps because it was on the second channel.
    Out of all the videos he's made made that one was the one that was actually objectively contentious and maybe harmful even since he's accused people of liking foreign culture music as being fetishtistic instead of just liking the music.
    I remember a really funny interaction he had with one of the commenter Sophie Claire. an asian woman. summarizing his dislike as a projection of his own insecurities Finn coming back with a really horrible take.
    Really cute interaction, gotta read it
    ruclips.net/video/smITCqrxZOk/видео.html&lc=Ugw7nS1mJneBowIngbh4AaABAg
    While that video is the worst thing you've ever done, I still love you though you lovely stoic punk chiseled boomer, like a crack on a majestic Greek statue. 😘

  • @maxmeggeneder8935
    @maxmeggeneder8935 9 месяцев назад +1

    If "screaming over guitars" is Metal, does that mean all Hardcore is metal?

  • @VioletElite4
    @VioletElite4 2 года назад +36

    Been watching since 2019, and i actually like when you have an opinion I don't agree with, it's healthy to hear another person's perspective. Music is subjective and what you might think sucks I or someone else might like and I don't take offense if you don't like it. I remember you commented on a Finger 11 song a while ago, saying that the song sucks and that the lead singer looks like he repairs photocopiers. I disagreed, I actually like them, but I loved your comment and thought it was hilarious. Take care man!

  • @adamwehib7191
    @adamwehib7191 9 месяцев назад +2

    Dismissing an entire genre like indie music which is so wide in variety in terms of its music and fans just because you “dislike hipsters” is still a pretty wild take lol

  • @ryanm4035
    @ryanm4035 2 года назад +15

    I've listened and watched your black metal like 5 times, dude it was solid. I loved it. I love black metal, and have no idea why people disliked it. You were spot on with everything.

    • @michealrosen
      @michealrosen 2 года назад +10

      I love all sub genres of metal,been listening to metal for 30 years, but we have to acknowledge alot of metal fans can't take criticism, there's also massive gatekeeping always has been, even at some concerts if someone doesn't think the band shirt you have on is metal enough, aka "they sold out"

    • @lordtrigon1733
      @lordtrigon1733 2 года назад +3

      "Why do people like black metal?" *Vomit emoji*! Sorry but like... what was the expected response there? 🤷‍♀

    • @xkinsey3831
      @xkinsey3831 2 года назад

      I love black metal too, but that's why I'm not surprised he got tons of shit for it. Black Metal fans are the worst of the worst.

    • @ryanm4035
      @ryanm4035 2 года назад

      @@lordtrigon1733 to laugh at themselves

  • @DennisFeinsteinCEO
    @DennisFeinsteinCEO 2 года назад +3

    I'm sure this is the 1000th "I don't always agree with your views on music, political talk, and some other things"... But I truly mean it. You're always just giving your opinion, your side of the story, and I do love your content. Keep on, keepin' on bOrThEr. 💜✌️

  • @maxmeggeneder8935
    @maxmeggeneder8935 9 месяцев назад +2

    You weren't canceled. You have a huge platform on RUclips. This should be obvious. But being "canceled" simply sells too well. Which should be an oxymoron.

  • @SpaghettiWithMeatSauce
    @SpaghettiWithMeatSauce 2 года назад +4

    I remember at the Megadeth/Lamb of God tour this past year, some skinhead was wandering around shirtless with a huge nazi eagle tattoo on his back. I was truly at a lost of words.

    • @jackko21
      @jackko21 2 года назад

      Well no matter where you go their are always gonna be fuckheads around

    • @thelittleowl1
      @thelittleowl1 2 года назад

      Jesus Christ…

  • @andrewdehne8932
    @andrewdehne8932 2 года назад +1

    I hardly have time to keep up with friends and other ways of finding new music (two babies under 2 y/o) so your channel is huge for me to discover new music, and all the politics surrounding it. Gives me a chance in conversations about music. I really appreciate your content dude!

  • @areuouthere2103
    @areuouthere2103 2 года назад +4

    I watch Finn for his expertise, insight and facts from working in the industry. Agreeing/disagreeing happens in life. It doesn’t mean we have to stop watching or supporting someone/thing. I’m a liberal who eats at Chick-fil-A and my friends give me shit for it, lol.

  • @hunterking6033
    @hunterking6033 2 года назад +2

    I'm not obligated to like trap metal... but I'm appartently a close minded, racist if I don't.

    • @hunterking6033
      @hunterking6033 2 года назад

      Black Metal virgins roll super hard. It's also where most of the actual racist metal fans exist.

  • @xenos_n.
    @xenos_n. 2 года назад +3

    You know, when it comes to Danzig, I have zero issue with you making fun of him because he's an absolute lolcow, it's your criticism of his music which I happen to not like (at least from the late 70’s-mid 90’s). You dissing his music rubs me the wrong way because it's actually really important to me and I think it's fantastic. If you wanna make fun of Danzig as a person or Verotika (lol tho, for seriously) or something, that doesn't bother me at all.

  • @thekungfukid1990
    @thekungfukid1990 2 года назад +3

    I discovered trap metal through your video and decided to give it a listen. Couldn't get into it at all, but the video was really interesting. I love discovering new stuff

  • @tonyf5869
    @tonyf5869 Год назад +1

    This kind of line in the sand statement at 12:00 is why I appreciate your content. Musical taste is subjective and open to interpretation but the work behind producing it and the experience in the industry is objective, and let's be real. Objective truth is the devil these days.

  • @joeyqqp
    @joeyqqp Год назад +2

    The thing I hate about the people in the racism video is that idiots always steer the blame somewhere else aka the hardcore scene and its really frustrating because old gatekeeping metalheads wont listen to any logic and lack common sense

  • @Nidstang_
    @Nidstang_ 2 года назад +2

    14:14 racism isn't a problem in punk or hardcore? You literally have bands like Screwdriver. You literally can't wear red laces in your scene. All of the negativity about your videos can really just come down to your weird hard-on for hating on metal.

  • @skramzfather
    @skramzfather 2 года назад +3

    i always laugh at any attack at “real” emo fans on this channel because i used to be that guy. it’s all jokes and people gotta learn to take criticism

  • @ThinkTwice2222
    @ThinkTwice2222 2 года назад +20

    Genius level stuff recognizing haters are part of the community as well.. very zoomer of you Finn, good form

  • @xCosmonautical
    @xCosmonautical 2 года назад +3

    The most controversial opinion I've heard from this channel is that Combos are a shit tier snack, so I welcome the metal videos. They must have been the first one's I started watching on the channel. I came for the slam and stayed for the hyperpop

  • @d_hurl
    @d_hurl 2 года назад +5

    Indie rock is such a huge genre- I can see some of the, "good ones," feeling lumped in w/the hipster douches & getting pissed. Generalizations can be a tough thing cause there are some great things in the genre. But I haven't seen the video since back then so I don't remember your tone/how hard you went @ um. AFAIR you weren't being that brutal.

  • @chopst11x92
    @chopst11x92 2 года назад +3

    I agree with you 100% BUT we can’t ignore the neo nazi hardcore movement of the 80’s, definitely a stain on the scene that was stomped out but again you’ll still find some of the in Huntington Beach 💀

  • @mraaronhd
    @mraaronhd 2 года назад +2

    As far as trap metal goes, I’m just not a fan of trap drums. It’s boring, and everybody does it now. It’s essentially hip hop’s version of a breakdown beat, and there’s nothing cool about it. I’m ready for it to die off.

  • @dragonisseth
    @dragonisseth 2 года назад

    The Europeans ganged up hard on that black metal video. 10,800 dislikes > total black metal fans in history

  • @dimitrije018
    @dimitrije018 2 года назад +4

    The trap metal video was the first video i saw from you, and from then on i became a superfan of the channel!

    • @FinnMckentyPRMBA
      @FinnMckentyPRMBA  2 года назад +1

      Thank you!

    • @thelittleowl1
      @thelittleowl1 2 года назад

      it was a great video. id never heard of trap metal so was intrigued.

  • @TheDuelist
    @TheDuelist 2 года назад +4

    I definitely don't agree with everything you say, but a huge problem with a lot of people today is that they're unwilling to entertain or even listen to a dissenting opinion. So even though I disagree with you at times, I applaud your courage to speak your mind and make people, like myself that don't always agree, look at why we think a certain way and challenge our mindsets. Keep it up!!

  • @jtrocker9976
    @jtrocker9976 Год назад +3

    Surprised you didn’t talk about your video on Japanese Metal.

  • @gurke420
    @gurke420 3 дня назад +1

    As someone who has a high shittake rate you should be happy by the amount of likes you get

  • @dang9668
    @dang9668 2 года назад +8

    As a dude born in 85 in socal, Torrance, you’re so damn spot on with music scenes, and have a breadth of insider knowledge I’ve not seen elsewhere being so accessible. My brother in law is D. Pearson and he’s made a good name for himself in LA as an engineer but I don’t know if he knows this much LoL.
    Being objective about music is part of what makes it great. You can’t please 100% of people ever. Thanks dude!

    • @revivedfears
      @revivedfears 2 года назад

      I agree. I definitely don't agree with every take, but Finn undeniably knows his shit.

  • @lowspec42
    @lowspec42 2 года назад +3

    Rap / hip hop hate is the same as black people hate? Come on now...

  • @natl5692
    @natl5692 2 года назад +3

    Not gonna lie
    This video sounds like me : "I might have made mistakes, it might be my fault. But I'm right and it was not"

    • @FinnMckentyPRMBA
      @FinnMckentyPRMBA  2 года назад +1

      That's basically the takeaway. I think everything I said was fair and accurate, but that doesn't really matter. What matters is that people like me, and sometimes that means holding my tongue (because oftentimes, people don't like hearing the truth).

    • @natl5692
      @natl5692 2 года назад +1

      @@FinnMckentyPRMBA hope you see this
      But you should be proud that you are talking about something that might hurt some people
      Telling the truth and making complete videos is way more important than ruffling some feathers
      I get that you don't want to paint a target on your back
      But not saying what you think is basically lying
      And I know it's not good for the channel and everything so you're probably right in the end just to avoid touchy subjects ... But you're also not being fair and honest

    • @natl5692
      @natl5692 2 года назад

      I hope this made sense, my written English is kinda rusty

    • @FinnMckentyPRMBA
      @FinnMckentyPRMBA  2 года назад

      Thank you! Yes, I understand. But I have decided to keep my opinions to myself when I know they will make people angry.

  • @contagiouschipmunk
    @contagiouschipmunk 2 года назад +2

    If this gets enough dislikes will it make the part 2 follow up???

  • @richardb2652
    @richardb2652 2 года назад +2

    @finnmckenty as a power metal fan I demand more power metal insult videos.

    • @thelittleowl1
      @thelittleowl1 2 года назад

      As an alestorm fan I demand he insult them more lol

  • @remytherat5258
    @remytherat5258 Год назад +2

    I don’t see how trap metal has anything to do with metal

  • @Scott_53110
    @Scott_53110 2 года назад +8

    Finn, I can honestly say that your videos have helped me open up to different issues, and different genres. I don’t always agree with you and sometimes think your criticism missed something, but I feel like your takes always come from a reasonable place and are very thought provoking. Even if there is cause for disagreement that is not cause for hate. Some people just suck I suppose. It is the internet though so try not to take it too personally. Keep up the videos man.

  • @joshuaharper1206
    @joshuaharper1206 Год назад +1

    I get what you mean for prog, though I enjoy it a lot more than you do. I've come to believe Progressive Metal isn't a genre, it's a adjective. Progressive Death (Opeth) , Progressive Alternative (Tool), Progressive Sludge (Mastodon). "But what about Dream Theater and Queensryche and such?" Progressive Heavy Metal. You have to have boundaries in the first place in order to break boundaries.

  • @jmckenzie962
    @jmckenzie962 2 года назад

    I think a huge reason a lot of people hated the Indie video was because you grouped bands like Sonic Youth and the Pixies in with landfill indie schlock like Mumford and Sons.

  • @jeremyobriant7266
    @jeremyobriant7266 2 года назад +12

    Finn, you have the best (or worst?) haters.
    None of your videos are bad. You put a lot of time and energy into your research, which clearly shows, and your experience/connections within the music industry gives you a unique advantage in making this type of content. I appreciate your videos and unique takes on certain topics.
    I don't always agree with you in regards to certain bands but that doesn't matter. People can have differing opinions without hate or anger being involved. I like a lot of indie/folk music, including Mumford & Sons, and you don't. Who cares?
    I've only got like 5 subscribers so I don't know anything about how RUclips really "works" but I appreciate all of the videos you upload, whether I agree with your opinions or not, and I think you should make the videos you want to make.

  • @jojoversus1100
    @jojoversus1100 2 года назад +1

    The only thing I've ever disagreed with you on is your opinion of Coheed & Cambria. They are a massively consistent band with a really amazing fanbase full of really nice, accepting people. Their music is really deep, with a ton of consistently fluid storytelling & a rich world built completely from Claudio & his wife Chondra's minds. I think youd be really impressed with them if you gave their discography & story a chance. You gave ICP a chance, so give Coheed & Cambria a real chance.

  • @GaminRobot
    @GaminRobot 2 года назад +2

    Trap metal is a subgenre of HIP HOP, it’s not metal because it never even came from Metal roots to begin with. That’s why you’re getting the hate man, it’s like if I said hyperpop and the future of death metal.

    • @FinnMckentyPRMBA
      @FinnMckentyPRMBA  2 года назад

      It’s really not though, rap culture doesn’t know or care about trap metal at all

    • @FinnMckentyPRMBA
      @FinnMckentyPRMBA  2 года назад

      Sure but I think any definition would include bass, drums, guitars and some kind of harsh vocals, right? Which are all present in trap metal, in addition to conventionally metal lyrics and imagery. They just add some other elements from rap.

    • @GaminRobot
      @GaminRobot 2 года назад

      @@FinnMckentyPRMBA false, I knew kids in high school who listened to Trap Metal and they certainly weren’t listening to Metallica or Slayer or anything metal, they came from the wave of soundcloud rappers who were popping at the time. Once again, culturally it doesn’t have roots in metal, it may borrow from it, but it is a hip hop subgenre

    • @GaminRobot
      @GaminRobot 2 года назад

      @@FinnMckentyPRMBA I can assure you that if you were to look at the influences of said “trap metal” artists they would say they came from a hip hop background first and then added the metal elements later. (Like most genres are doing nowadays) you wouldn’t call pop punk with metalcore breakdowns metal too now would you? It’s not metal.

  • @SkaMasta097
    @SkaMasta097 Год назад +1

    14:12 "Racism is not really a problem in Punk or Hardcore"
    Excuse me? Are you not aware of bands like Skrewdriver? Are you not aware of Rock Against Communism, Nazi Punk, or Hatecore? Are you not aware that Neo-Nazi Skinheads were showing up to Punk Shows, prompting the Dead Kennedys to write the song "Nazi Punks F*** Off" in response?
    Claiming that there is racism in Metal, but not Punk/Hardcore is demonstrably wrong.

  • @DeadzoneMusic
    @DeadzoneMusic 2 года назад +3

    Yeah people take stuff relating to their "identity" way too seriously and need to learn that other people have different perspectives.
    Obviously I don't agree when you trash bands I like (Mudvayne, W.A.S.P., King of the Hill, Trixter, etc.) in a way I think is unfair, but I'm not gonna get all butthurt and dislike the video.
    But at the same time, you gotta understand that if you're gonna talk shit, people are gonna talk shit back, that's just the way the internet works. That doesn't mean you shouldn't still do it tho.

  • @StuartHetzler
    @StuartHetzler 2 года назад +6

    if you're pissing off metal fans, you're doing something right

  • @PhreakPhantom
    @PhreakPhantom 2 года назад +3

    "Is it the trap or black people that you don't like"
    Jesus...so I can't just not enjoy a sound someone made...I MUST be racist. Ffs

    • @isaacjeanneret3533
      @isaacjeanneret3533 2 года назад

      Well if it's not one it's clearly the other. Don't know why your panties are up in a bunch about it.

  • @KnivingDispodia
    @KnivingDispodia 2 года назад +3

    Pretty sure most racists would also call you a “woke SJW cuck”. That’s kind of an insult they minted.

    • @Whiteboifrumdaeast
      @Whiteboifrumdaeast 2 года назад

      And how many times have you been called that ?? 🤣

    • @KnivingDispodia
      @KnivingDispodia 2 года назад

      @@Whiteboifrumdaeast What is this response even supposed to mean? Is this supposed to be a “gotcha”?

    • @Whiteboifrumdaeast
      @Whiteboifrumdaeast 2 года назад

      @@KnivingDispodia yes 🗿

  • @yaarghmaargh
    @yaarghmaargh 2 года назад +2

    your channel introduced me to trap metal. totally enjoy it now.

  • @confusedturtle55
    @confusedturtle55 2 года назад +1

    I think the big thing with the prog video is that it was using the blanket of prog to talk about specifically shreddy stuff when things like Haken, Gojira, and a bunch of other bands in that vain exist. great points at the shreddy stuff though. Actual songs are cool

  • @sollamander2206
    @sollamander2206 2 года назад +1

    the idea that libs are the only people that get triggered is quite silly as this video highlights quite well. Also to your point about the black people vs hip hop being the problem, the thing that always struck me was that the rock guys who complained the loudest about 2000s hip hop lyrical content were always hair metal guys who listened to equally as frivolous and misogynistic music. To the indie video thing, I think Americans generally hate to be accused of being rich and a huge chunk of upper middle class and upper class people identify as middle class or even working class. I remember a kid I knew in high school getting very indignant about Obama's quote about working class people clinging to guns and religions. "As a member of the working class I find that insulting" (The guy's dad was a trader on wall street.) I grew up in a middle to upper middle class neighborhood where a decent number of people were into indie music but when I went away to NYU I was introduced to the stereotypical upper class indie fans who were really quite unlikable. Kids I knew were dumber than me but were more worldly bc they went to prep school.

  • @lefloeck
    @lefloeck 2 года назад +5

    Hater: you suck.
    - Why?
    Hater: just because you do.
    - Ah, Yes. Can't argue with that. Makes total sense.

  • @ernsty4659
    @ernsty4659 2 года назад +2

    Don’t agree with all of your takes, but I admire how you always do it with respect and class. Finn has strong “Barbecue friend” vibes.

  • @salva0922
    @salva0922 2 года назад +2

    Babymetal is a great act. Yes, the fans are annoying and borderline creepy but I dont let them distract me from their good music

  • @altipathy
    @altipathy 2 года назад

    I havent seen those videos yet, but my guess is that you're right and people saw the title and disliked it without watching because how dare there be a "problem" with their music.

  • @everise3439
    @everise3439 2 года назад +1

    I really like your trap metal video. I checked out all the artists and even bought some albums, and I’m an old metal head.

  • @TheMuckrakersli
    @TheMuckrakersli 2 года назад +1

    For what it's worth, you're the only person I watch videos like this from. Always insightful

  • @GenXdad75
    @GenXdad75 2 года назад

    Even when I don’t really like a genre you cover, i still add a song from the artist/band you mention to my Spotify liked songs. It just adds to my musical diversity.

  • @nandochavez4546
    @nandochavez4546 2 года назад +1

    6:44 is it a problem having "rich white kids" in that culture though, i'm not even white but it's really annoying for some reason to me when people say things like this, especially other white people, like you are not helping nobody not even yourself saying things like that

  • @marginalhero4783
    @marginalhero4783 2 года назад +11

    I enjoyed all those videos. I'm not surprised the racism video upset people, because racists don't like be called out on it. Continued education and exposure on the topic is what's needed so I'm glad a video like that is out there.
    I'm not into trap metal and think you are probably wrong about it being the future of metal but it's a good video, something to think about and I don't have to agree with your conclusion to respect your take and opinion on it. It would be stupid to thumbs down it just because I didn't agree with the conclusion.
    And let's face it... there's A LOT of bad indie music. There's a few gems out there but it's overwhelmingly bland and boring music. It's also a huge umbrella term that incorporates so many styles.
    I'm a big fan of European metal but your criticisms of it, while cherry picking, were spot on for what the examples were. Part of the fun is that it's cheesy. These guys dressing up as vikings must know what they are doing is cheesy. They must. I hope...
    I have learned a lot from your videos. Both in finding new bands and also in challenging my own thoughts and impressions of music and sometimes I decide I don't agree with you on things. But I appreciate your perspective and it's good to engage with ideas outside of your echo chamber. Some people can't handle that though.

  • @ghostrxgaming8779
    @ghostrxgaming8779 2 года назад +5

    This is why Finn is one of my favorite RUclipsrs he’s objective about everything even his own work cracking a few jokes about bands/artists he gives his honest opinion. For example he’s pretty open about not liking the Deftones and not liking Deftones fans, I love the Deftones lol. In reality I think the people getting most upset are people who are stuck in the “metal mindset.” No guitars = bad, no white dudes with long hair and beards = bad it’s a circle jerk and it’s good to see Finn is fighting against the norm.

  • @jak3y3
    @jak3y3 Год назад

    In terms of the Lords of Chaos stuff, Necrobutcher has stated outright that the book is not accurate and even in return released his own book called The Death Archives that goes through everything. I can’t say definitively whether or not if Lords of Chaos is accurate but it Necrobutcher, the bassist who is still here with us that went through all of that and fellow bands like Satyricon say it’s inaccurate, I’m more inclined to believe them.

  • @hawkc31
    @hawkc31 2 года назад +1

    I'm gonna say it, just because the people aren't liking rap doesn't mean it's because it's about race. He's saying even tho people aren't saying it that it must because about race and that's just baiting.

  • @davidhastoomanyinterests6361
    @davidhastoomanyinterests6361 2 года назад +1

    I am gonna start my own genre: Regressive Rock. This is gonna be fun!

  • @1popscicle
    @1popscicle 2 года назад +1

    I know when I've discovered who you were a part of how I got out of the dogma how "if it doesn't have guitars, how can I possibly know if it's good?" and that's in part of you being positive towards rap and pop artists and I changed my mentality to "If I like the music what does it matter what genre it is" and I remember not being upset but rather surprised that for a short while your videos switched to a more negative focus even if it was bands of genres that I don't particularly liked.
    Yet again you're 100% in the right to make any content you want and you're 100% in the right the like or dislike whatever you want. I think fandoms in general needs to chill whenever somebody doesn't like the things they like.
    P.s.: I loved the video on racism btw. One of my favorite and one of the most needed and I love that you brought the perspective of somebody who's not white. I didn't realized people acted that way in the scene before that video.
    P.s.s.: Danzig IS short, it's a fact.

  • @skipp10467
    @skipp10467 2 года назад +5

    One of the first videos I saw of yours was the racism in metal video, and I immediately respected you and subscribed to your other channel because of it. Thank you for making that video as a white man, because a lot of white people pretend that racism isn’t a problem or isn’t prevalent.